Roger Mayweather doubts that Floyd Sr. can help Victor Ortiz

By Boxing News - 09/27/2012 - Comments

Image: Roger Mayweather doubts that Floyd Sr. can help Victor OrtizBy Dan Ambrose: Much like Amir Khan, former WBC welterweight champion Victor Ortiz’s boxing career is on the verge of collapse after Ortiz has lost his two fights and looked poor in both of them. In the latest boxing news, Golden Boy Promotions president Oscar De La Hoya has persuaded the 25-year-old Ortiz (29-4-2, 22 KO’s) to be trained by his old trainer Floyd Mayweather Sr., the father of Mayweather Jr.

It sounds good but Roger Mayweather, the brother of Floyd Sr., doesn’t think Ortiz’s career can be saved by Floyd Sr. Roger sees Ortiz as a fatally flawed fighter.

Roger Mayweather said this to Chris Robinson at examiner.com: “My brother can train him all he wants to. It’s the fighter that has to go in that ring. I don’t give a f*** what you teach him.”

De La Hoya is hoping that Mayweather Sr. can improve Ortiz’s defense which needs a lot of work. However, teaching sometimes takes a long time to do and it’s often that fighters remain pretty much the same fighter they were before they signed on a defensive trainer. De La Hoya didn’t look noticeably improved in the time that he had Mayweather Sr. as his trainer. I think it takes years for a trainer to teach defensive skills, and unless they start early with a fighter they often are unable to make much progress.

Ortiz seems to get flustered when he’s hit with shots and that’s something that Mayweather Sr. might not be able to change unless he can sit Ortiz down and figure out what goes through his head when he starts to get hit. Mayweather Sr. needs to work on Ortiz’s mental outlook on the game before he even starts with the teaching defense because Ortiz does a lot of the damage himself just by making wrong decisions when things are going bad.

Some boxing fans see Ortiz as a quitter because he quit during the Marcos Maidana and Josesito Lopez fights when things weren’t going his way. Fans also think that Ortiz mentally quit when he head-butted Mayweather Jr. in his 4th round knockout loss to him last year in September.

Mayweather Sr. will have his work cut out for him if he does take on Ortiz to try and help him. The chances are high that it’ll end in failure for Mayweather Sr. because Ortiz seems to crumble when things start going wrong for him, and like Roger said, Mayweather Sr. can’t be in the ring doing the fighting for Ortiz.

In his last fight agaisnt Josesito Lopez, Ortiz looked slightly weight-drained compared to his other fights at welterweight, and you have to wonder whether it’s time for Ortiz to move up in weight to 154 so that he doesn’t melt down so much. He’s been rumored to be rehydrating up to 160 for his welterweight fights, which suggests that it might be time for Ortiz to move up to junior middleweight so that he can have more strength. At 5’9″, Ortiz has the frame to fight at 154 lbs, as well as middleweight if he wants to. I think it would be a good idea for him to do this because I don’t see him going for at 147 even with Mayweather Sr. as his trainer.



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