Who would have won had Abraham not stopped Taylor in the 12th?

abrahem434By Jason Kim: Taking away the 12th round knockout from the equation in the Jermain Taylor vs. Arthur Abraham fight, who would have won the fight if it had gone to a decision? I know who I had winning the fight and it wasn’t Abraham. At the time of the stoppage, I had Taylor ahead 6 rounds to 4 with 1 round even. Unless Abraham dropped Taylor a couple of times in the last round, I saw Taylor winning at the minimum of 6 rounds to 5 with one even.

The judges had it scored in favor of Abraham at the time of the knockout, but I can’t see how they could have had Abraham ahead at that point in the fight.

Abraham did next to nothing in rounds one through four, eating a lot of jabs and right hands for the most part. Abraham wasn’t throwing enough punches, a problem he’s suffered a lot from in the past year. He was supposed to have been busier in this fight because he didn’t have to struggle to make the 160 pound middleweight limit, but Abraham looked pretty much the same, as far as I can tell.

Abraham was mostly covering up, and waiting until there was only 30 seconds left in the round before deciding to attack. This is the same way Abraham has been fighting for the past year. That’s not how he used to fight when he was younger. The dude used to attack all the time and didn’t need to play possum for 2 ½ minutes of every round, but that’s what he did against Taylor last Saturday night.

Because of that, I scored rounds one through four for Taylor. In each of those rounds, Abraham averaged 10 punches thrown per round from my count, an anemic number for a top quality fighter, but about the same amount that Abraham has been throwing in his recent fights. He’s all about resting up, and fighting hard for the last 30 seconds. Maybe this keeps him strong so he’s not arm weary.

I can understand that, because knockout punchers like Julian Jackson never threw many punches per round. Instead, Jackson would keep his right hand cocked like a huge cannon and would fire it off like a howitzer every now and then. Abraham’s a good puncher, but he’s nowhere near the same class as a Julian Jackson in terms of punching power, and needs to throw more than 10 punches per round to win rounds.

Taylor badly outworked Abraham in rounds 1-4, 6-8. Even in rounds 9 through 11, Taylor still landed more punches than Abraham might a considerable margin. The difference here is that Taylor was now tired by that point in the fight, his power nearly completely gone on his punches, and his ability to take shots decreased due to the fatigue that set in around the 9th.

However, if Taylor had been able to stay up for the whole fight without going down in the 12th, I have him winning the fight. And maybe that doesn’t mean anything now, since Taylor was knocked out, but it does show that Abraham’s work rate continues to be quite low and unless he improves that for his next fight against Andre Dirrell, Abraham will lose the fight.

Sure, he win by a controversial decision, but that will taint his victory. Abraham won’t be able to get by Andre Ward or Mikkel Kessler throwing only 10 punches per round, if he’s able to somehow get a decision win over Dirrell. I don’t think he’ll get the job done against Dirrell, because he’s going to be much more offensively inclined next time out and throwing a lot of punches now that he’s learned his lesson from the defeat to Carl Froch in their Super Six tournament fight last Saturday night.


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19 Responses to “Who would have won had Abraham not stopped Taylor in the 12th?”

  • nobody says:

    are you sharing your chicken brain with scott cilfoid? the bad eyesight seems to be a problem in your dynasty of golf-analysts as well…

  • aram says:

    Arthur win that fight also by the judges

    look by “the sun” there are the official scores
    Taylor was good but Abrahm was batter

  • Enard says:

    sorry man, but anytime u get knocked out with 2 seconds left u deserve to lose. who cares who would have won if he didnt get knocked out, he got knocked out!

  • Mike says:

    Can’t take you seriously dude AA was winning clearly

  • Carrick says:

    Jason just so you know when your scoring a fight, hitting gloves doesnt really count mate. Abraham was winning, Taylor needed to knock Arthur out…ended up being Taylor who got knocked out. Arthur’s tactics we’re spot on, and he ended up with the bonus point.

    But i agree with your comment about Andre Dirrell, i really think that Dirrell could do better against Arthur than he did against Froch! No matter how negative Dirrell was in that fight against Froch, he’s made me a fan of his and i am hoping that he beats Abraham now!

  • ashley says:

    I had Taylor losing going into the 12, he needed the KO, even his corner thought so. His power completely dissappeared from Round 9 and Arthur was landing the more telling shots from round 5 or so onwards. Everey time AA threw Taylor looked scared, he was completely finished in the 9th but somehow made the end of the round.

    I thought Taylor did very well but he needs a couple of easy fights quite desperately I think it’s wrong for him to stay in the Super Six now.

  • Joe, in Canada says:

    This is one one the worst boxing articles I have ever seen. Abraham’s punches were clean and effective and he was justifiably ahead on the three scorecards going into the 12th. And let’s give Abraham credit for a great one-punch KO.

  • Steven says:

    You must know little about boxing. Its about puches landed not punches thrown.

  • jstraightright says:

    lights out JT but he should definitely fight ward next because he finally won’t have to face a knockout specialist and I think he can beat Ward and knowing that Ward will beat Kessler than JT will have a super middleweight title.. awesome comeback story..

  • Matt, England says:

    I thought taylor box very well and I had him ahead.

  • jstraightright says:

    Dirrell by decision over Abraham than he will beat Ward and win the tourney. Abraham will knockout Froch and will make it to the finals against Dirrell

  • Tim says:

    Taylor hardly landed clean because nearly all of them hit Abraham’s impressive guard.

    Taylor fought well but I have AA well ahead going into the 12th round.

  • David says:

    This must be one of the dumbest articles I’ve ever read. I hope you don’t quit your job at the local deli mart.

  • Rob says:

    Even Taylor’s corner told him he needed a knockout! The fight was all Abraham’s from the fourth round on, If you scored it 6 rounds to JT I seriously think you never should take up a career as a judge… In fact, I want to know how you scored the last round before the KO? 10-8 for Taylor maybe?! :D

  • Davey says:

    Jason are you scotts apprentice or something????? Including round 12 i had the score 116 – 110 to Abraham, i guess you had your patriotic blinkers on if not then you aint got a clue how to score objectively. I give Dirrel his dues , hes got good boxing skills but he doesnt use them properly, he should take a leaf out of Calaghe`s book.

  • TONY says:

    DUDE AS MY FRIEND SAID YOU ARE AN CERTIFIED IDIOT.MAY BE FISHING WILL BE MUCH BETTER FOR YOU TO EARN MONEY CAUSE YOU SUCKS.ABRAHAM WAS THE DOMINATOR DURING THE COMBATS AND HE IS NOT LIKE OTHER FIGHTER JUMPING AND RUNNING LIKE A CLOWNS IN THE CIRCUS HE IS JUST PUNCHING WHENEVER IT REQUIRED TO HURT AND DESTROYED THE OPPONENTS. HE IS THE GREATEST OF THIS TOURNAMENT AND I GIVE KESSLER 2 AND FROCH 3

  • Joe Joe says:

    Do they realy pay you to wright this bull? or were you not watching the fight? Taylor and Duirrell sucked!!!

  • nepster says:

    This article is pointless as ALL the judges had Abraham ahead.

  • vke1231 says:

    dude ur a idiot, taylor landed like 5 puches that whole fight, he may have won 1-4 but throughout the rest of the fight he won maybe 1 more round but he was not effective at all and never had abraham hurt or even hit him flush maybe 1 time. abraham will win this tournament in significant manner, and have the big name he always wanted in america. dirrell is done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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