Can Calzaghe Slap His Way To Victory Over Jones?

cal5378.jpgBy Scott Gilfoid: Joe Calzaghe (45-0, 32 KOs) has had an amazing career, staying undefeated throughout his long 15 year career and holding his World Boxing Organization (WBO) super middleweight title for an incredible 10 long years without one opponent even coming close to beating him. Almost all of his bouts have taken place in Wales, having only recently come over to the U.S for his hard fought 12-round split decision victory over Bernard Hopkins.

For many Americans, they were less than impressed with Calzaghe, in particular his slapping punches which looked pale in comparison to the hard, clean-landing shots from Hopkins. In the end, Calzaghe squeaked by with a narrow split decision due to Hopkins tiring out in the second half of the bout, and resorting to clinching and other such delaying tactics. Nevertheless, the slapping and lack of clean landing shots from Calzaghe made his U.S. debut more than a little disappointing, because fighters over here are usually expected to land harder punches in order to win. While Calzaghe was able to get the nod over Hopkins last time out, I have grave doubts that he will get a second win if he fights in a similar manner on November 8th against Roy Jones Jr.

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Will Beating Jones Prove Calzaghe’s Greatness?

cal45445.jpgBy Dan Ambrose: I don’t know about any of you, but I thought the sole reason that Joe Calzaghe was fighting Roy Jones Jr., rather than Kelly Pavlik, was so that he could get the biggest payday possible while on the way out the door in the sport. Did I miss something? If anyone thinks for a second that a win over Jones, who is 39, almost 40 and hasn’t looked good in the ring in ages, will prove anything other than the fact that Calzaghe is good enough to beat a faded Jones, then I they need a wakeup call.

Don’t get me wrong, Jones was a great fighter in his day, much better probably than Calzaghe can ever hope to be, but he’s aged a little quicker than Calzaghe, probably due to all the hard fights that Jones has had over the years and he’s not nearly at the level he was years ago. A win is a win, and Calzaghe will always have the ‘W’ next to his name in his record book for Jones, if he beats him, but where’s the victory in beating him at this stage? In a way, it reminds me a lot of Oscar De La Hoya’s fight against Manny Pacquiao. Sure, De La Hoya will probably win, and get paid well in the process, but he won’t likely win much of any respect from fans for having beaten such a small fighter like Pacquiao.

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Hopkins: “Joe [Calzaghe] Knows In His Heart That The Judges Beat Bernard Hopkins”

hop52357564.jpgBy Sean McDaniel: in an interview on Steve Bunces’ Boxing Hour today, Bernard Hopkins appeared to be still more than a little bitter about his 12-round split decision loss to Joe Calzaghe in April, and not about to own up to the fact that he was beaten by him. Sounding genuinely angry about the loss, Hopkins said “Joe [Calzaghe] Knows In His Heart That The Judges Beat Bernard Hopkins, and he has to live with that fact for the rest of his life. Yeah, a win is a win, is a win, but at the end of the day, if that is all Joe Calzaghe has to show that he is worth…I wouldn’t worry about a decision this time. He’ll get knocked out. Whether it’s in Wales, or London or whether it’s in the U.S.”

At this point, it’s still uncertain that Calzaghe will give Hopkins a rematch or not. Calzaghe has an important bout with Roy Jones Jr. on November 8th, and needs to win that fight in order to move forward for any additional fights. However, Calzaghe is set for money, and doesn’t need to fight anymore after having made a bundle in his last three fights. Also, he plans on retiring immediately following the Jones fight, and it seems doubtful that Hopkins, a fighter that Calzaghe has already beaten fairly decisively, would be enough for him to want to stick around for a little while longer. For what it’s worth, Hopkins didn’t help his cause given the way he acted before and after the fight last time out against Calzaghe. Hopkins was aggressive and antagonistic towards Calzaghe much of the time, even at one point saying “I’d never let a white boy beat me.”

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Hopkins: “Calzaghe Will Change His Mind,” Bika-Manfredo, Haussler-Kessler – Latest Boxing News

calzaghe4526734.jpgBernard Hopkins told Steve Bunce’s Boxing Hour that he will not consider Chad Dawson as an opponent and believes the winner out of Joe Calzaghe and Roy Jones Jr will change their mind about not fighting him.

The Executioner produced the performance of his career last Saturday in Atlantic City to convincingly outpoint current middleweight king Kelly Pavlik.

Both Calzaghe and Jones, though paying respect to Hopkins’ performance, insist they have no interest in having second fights against the Philadelphia fighter.

Hopkins believes the media frenzy surrounding the aftermath of their fight, when he will be in attendance, will persuade the fighters that they have to take him on.

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Why Is Joe Calzaghe Underrated?

cal5647654.jpgBy Jonny Rashman Joe Calzaghe is a world class fighter, is unbeaten and one of the longest reigning world champions in the history of boxing, yet still boxing experts won’t give him the credit he deserves. It is only recently that Calzaghe is being treated like a superstar, even though he is 45 and 0, with 32 knockouts. While good fighters like Kelly Pavlik are talked about more highly than Calzaghe, why is that? Before Calzaghe destroyed Jeff Lacey, none of the world class fighters wanted to fight Calzaghe because there was not enough money involved to take the risk to fight Calzaghe, considering that there was a good chance they would get beat. All of a sudden these top class fighters are coming to the end of their careers and have been beaten in recent years, so they need Calzaghe now.

Going back six years ago, it was Calzaghe who needed them to prove how world class he is. How things have changed. It’s like anything in life, why would you give someone a chance who wouldn’t give you a chance? In the case of Calzaghe, he has to give these people a chance to fight him because at the end of the day he wants to fight the best fighters to prove to the rest of the world how good he is.

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Did Pavlik’s Loss Let Calzaghe Off The Hook?

cal5453531.jpgBy Michael Lieberman: Joe Calzaghe must be feeling a huge sense of relief right about now after middleweight knockout artist Kelly Pavlik was defeated by Bernard Hopkins on Saturday. There’s no getting around it, the loss was a huge defeat for Pavlik, and one that wiped out a lot of opportunities for him, one of which may or may not have been a fight with Calzaghe. Before the fight, Pavlik had been pushing hard for a fight with Calzaghe, but with little luck. Instead of wanting to face Pavlik, a fighter with an unbeaten record and an enormous amount of knockout victories, Calzaghe decided on Roy Jones Jr., a fighter that is perceived by many boxing experts to be the lesser threat than Pavlik.

Instead of Calzaghe facing Pavlik, the forty-three year-old Bernard Hopkins manned up and took the fight, and ended up giving Pavlik a terrible thrashing in the process. It’s unfortunate that Calzaghe chose to fight Jones rather than Pavlik, because who knows? Maybe it would be Calzaghe who would be getting all the praise right now for having beaten Pavlik instead of Hopkins.

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Is Calzaghe Afraid Of Hopkins?

cal5634565.jpgBy Michael Lieberman: With his loss on Saturday to Bernard Hopkins, Kelly Pavlik was effectively removed from future considerations for a potential bout with Joe Calzaghe. Not that Calzaghe would ever fight him anyway, mind you, because he’s said repeatedly in the past that he planned on retiring immediately following his November 8th bout against Roy Jones Jr., just as long as he performed well against him. Many boxing fans and writers, however, felt that with enough pushing, Calzaghe would eventually fight Pavlik. Now unfortunately that has been taken off the table with Pavlik’s one-sided loss to Hopkins.

After his win over Pavlik on Saturday, Hopkins stated that he’d like to fight the winner of Calzaghe vs. Jones. For his part, Calzaghe isn’t the slightest bit interested in facing Hopkins again, commenting to the BBC, “Screw Hopkins, I’m not fighting again for any amount of money, I’ve been doing this for too long.” Frankly, I’m not in the least bit surprised that Calzaghe isn’t interested in facing Hopkins, because their fight in April was incredibly close, looking to me – and to many other boxing experts – like Hopkins should have been the one awarded the ultimate decision and not Calzaghe.

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Calzaghe: Does Retiring Undefeated Lose It’s Value In The Case Of Joe?

calzaghe2356.jpgBy Michael Lieberman: Joe Calzaghe (45-0, 32 KOs) had made it a personal mission for himself to not only retire on a positive note, but to also to retire undefeated, like Rocky Marciano. The problem I have with that is undefeated records, like the one that Calzaghe has, is pretty much meaningless when you’re not fighting the best opponents available. Compare, for instance, a fighter that has fought nothing but the best opponents for the first 20 fights of their career with someone that has fought largely fluff opponents and has an equally impressive unbeaten record after the same amount of fights.

Should the second fighter, the one that fought mostly scrubs his entire career, feel particularly triumphant if they’ve retired with their unbeaten record intact? If it was me, I’d feel like I cheated myself and the boxing fans by facing less than the best fighters. I suppose it would be okay, at least for the fighter fighting the less than impressive opponents, if he were ignorant of how other’s perceived him. However, that doesn’t take away the fact that he’s still fought mostly lower level opponents, and shouldn’t be raised to a lofty status by boxing fans. It is, perhaps, too easy to get enamored with fighters that have flashy unbeaten records, because for most boxing fans, they see this an naturally assume that it must mean the fighter is great, right?

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Without A Fight Against Pavlik, Does Calzaghe Deserve To Be Considered an All Time Great?

cal423676.jpgBy Jim Dower: Joe Calzaghe (45-0, 32 KOs) will wrap up his excellent career against Roy Jones Jr. (58-4, 38 KOs) on November 8th at New York’s Madison Square Garden, a fight that has earned Calzaghe a huge amount of criticism by many boxing fans who wanted to see him go out in style against undefeated Kelly Pavlik. Calzaghe, 35, however, is doing what Oscar De La Hoya is going, namely going after the most amount of money at the least amount of risk. He certainly deserves a easy fight or two after having a stellar career in which he defended his WBO super middleweight title countless times without losing once.

However, by ending his career in a big money fight against an opponent that some feel that is unworthy, Calzaghe is angering a lot of people and tarnishing his career in their eyes. If he does end up retiring after his fight with Jones, can Calzaghe still be considered an all time great? That’s kind of a touchy question, because Calzaghe’s choice of fighting Jones rather than Pavlik, makes it seems as if Calzaghe is avoiding the more dangerous threat against Pavlik just so that he can finish his career with his legacy and unbeaten record intact. Calzaghe didn’t help his case any by having to fight hard in his last fight, defeating a ring weary 43 year-old Bernard Hopkins by a 12-round split decision. Hopkins, however, slowed the fight to a crawl and made it an ugly fight by clinching Calzaghe, and keeping him from throwing his nonstop combinations. Boxing fans, though, don’t care about that, all they care about is that Calzaghe struggled against Hopkins and was barely able to beat him by a close decision.

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Will Fighting Jones Enhance Calzaghe’s Legacy?

calzaghe4534.jpgBy Aaron Klein: While Joe Calzaghe (45-0, 32 KOs) continues to try and talk up the talent of his opponent Roy Jones Jr., who will supposedly be his last fight of his career on November 8th at New York’s Madison Square Garden, many in the boxing world aren’t so enamored by this fight and see it as merely Calzaghe cashing out of the sport the easy way in order to avoid more dangerous fighters like Kelly Pavlik or one of his many talented challengers to his WBO super middleweight title. Rather than have to continue to defend his WBO title, Calzaghe yesterday gave it up after 11 years.

It was an incredible length of time to hold a title, to be sure, but unfortunately Calzaghe had few real tests during the entire eleven years as a champion with which to build his legacy. In fact, an argument can be made that out of the entire time that he held the title, he only had a handful of decent opponents to fight – Mikkel Kessler, Jeff Lacy, Robin Reid and Richie Woodhall. Most, however, weren’t the type that would impress the average boxing fan unfortunately.

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