Will Haye’s speed save him from getting knocked out by Wladimir?

I’m surprised this fight is getting so much hype. If it actually happens it will be HUGE. I think it will get on HBO and draw a lot of attention. Unfortunately I think it can actually hurt the sport though. Why? Because I see zero chance of Haye winning or even putting on a good show. The only way he can survive even til the mid rounds is by running. That ain’t gonna do the heavyweight division any favors. On the other hand if Haye mixes it up with Wlad – even a little bit, he’ll get smoked. People say Wlad fights cautious which is accurate to a certain extent. But what you don’t hear much is how cautious MOST of his opponents are. Sam Peter is an exception. Sam can talk a lot of punishment. The beatings he took from both brothers were ugly. But Peter is very very strong. He was able to trouble Wlad with his relentlessness. But Peter is one of the only guys that actually showed up to win. Wlad’s other opponents are in survival mode: Chagaev after he got knocked down early, Chambers after the 2nd round, Ibragimov the entire fight (who by the way was knocked down by Wlad because the ropes held him up but it wasn’t called). Ray Austin came out and gave Wlad an opening. And look what happened – 1st round blowout. And basically that’s what we’re looking at here. 3 scenarios: 1. Haye opens up early and gets KOd early 2. He runs all night to survive 3. He talks for months but never takes the fight. Then blames it on the Klitschkos. Any of these scenarios are bad for boxing.

I see Haye and adamek trying and succeeding somewhat in the muhamad ali strategy.score in spurts and run.,or cover up to lesson the damage.one has to be good enough to counter that with cutting off the ring and makeing it count when they do.Not cat and mouse ,but cat and dog type style.that is Hayes best chance.But wladimar is faster than he appears at strikeing effectively.and vitali is relentless.he will always get his moments which he usualy succeeds at.

KlitschKO bros are LIVING LEGENDS. I am admit it. Strongest boxers ever I reckon.

Wlad has 55 wins and 90% of them by way of KTFO. English local boxer will become “the next victim of the world champion Wladimir Klitschko”

And yes, Wladimir is rather static, but why not fight in this style if it works for him? He is so fast and tall and acurate, that he doesn’t need to slip and bob and weave. He is a master in judging distance when throwing punches and he is fast enough to use this style. Ali did the same, remember, it is just that Wladimir is capable to do the same, just with 6 times more power than Ali…

Will somebody stop brikhed from posting – his posts are really annoying. a). he cannot speak English, b). he has nothing useful to say and c). he is using far too many carriage returns which is the most annoying. I was interested to read everything that everyone posted here except his annoying posts. Anyway rant over – Wlad to win by KO – The ring will be far smaller than when he fought Valuev and he will take far too many shots to survive.

not just here though I may add… it doesnt matter cos haye will win

Haye has to hurt Wlad early to show he his for real.

If he does this he wins by KO before the 6th

hayes got more chance of hitting the sun with a snowball than beating wlad.

WLADIMIR better put on his track shoes on to chase HAYE. Haye will be the title holder of sprint running in boxing. But if HAYE does sign to fight Wladimire I give him props. Because there is a another boxer that talk more B.S than HAYE that won’t fight and every boxing fan know who it is !!!!

thats funny tony because im reading alot more ppl with names sayin wlad will win instead of haye lol….

corrie sanders means nothing fs wise up…lewis lost to nobodys never mind dangourous guys but still ended up bein an all time great…wlad is doing the same thing…its about time people noticed that

fight aint gona happen fact

Anyway stfu you b*tch, Diva Gey suxx worldwide, international b*tch, and local english b-class boxer

Diva Gey fangirl huh?

AS USUAL, many internet idiots (mostly from the “island” and some from the US) became like CRAZY as another black loudmouthed KlitschKO’s victim has a so-called chance to defeat the long time reigning best boxer in the world…Once again BEST BOXER IN THE WORLD…Some idiots even have said that “KlitschKOs are easy to beat”…Well, you need to meet a doctor…Every Wlad’s opponent was talking about “I am the first one who will put real pressure on Wlad and knock him out” or “I will just get inside and find his chin”…Ok, we all know that even the SAME ex-champ Sam Peter who was as good as he was in the first Wlad fight in the 2nd Wlad fight was completely beaten up in lopsided fashion, it’s just shows how good Wlad became as a boxer as a champ. He became a great champ. If you think he is “easy to beat” you are an idiot. He is VERY HARD to beat…VERY VERY VERY HARD TO BEAT…ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE…NOW…And English local boxer with funny family name Hay has NO CHANCE TO DEFEAT A KLITSCHKO, PARTICULARLY WLAD WHO IS SUPERIOR ONE.

Sean, there is no point in making post like this unless the match has been officially and publicly announced.
I hope it happens.

haroon…thats a great stratagy m8 if only some1 had thought of it b4 ey lol

HAYE IS GONNA GET KOED.BRITS ARE REALLY DELUDED TO THINK HAYE HAS ANY CHANCE AGAINST WLAD AND WLAD ON THE P4P RANKING IS 7TH AND HAYE IS NOT IN THE FIRST 10 SO THAT WOULD GIVE YOU AN IDEA HOW HARD HE HITS AND HAYE IS A CLUMSY FIGHTER WITH NO DEFENCE AND IF RUIZ COULD HIT HAYE THEN HE IS GONNA EAT LOTS OF JABS ALL NIGHT.WLAD IS A FIT ATHLETE JUST LIKE HAYE AND NOT FLABBY LIKE RUIZ AND YOUNG. PREDICTIONS WLAD BY KO

happy new year to urself chum…i hope ur expectations r right i dont have high ones for it tho i think itll be another boring fight like the valuev afair only this time hell get a beating..theres a reason he dosnt get hit tho m8 peter did get through with one in there recent fight but it had no afect..he dosnt get knocked out from one punch he used to gas out but that was all the signs of a young inexperiancd fighter…to be honest his carrer has turned into a duplicate of lewis which is wat way i expect it to end…i think hes makin a mistake going for wlad..shud try n take vitalis 1st hes older and slower has a chance against him vitali depends on his chin at times and we all know ur chiin goes with age…he will lose to wlad…i even think wlad wud slap vitali if they ever fought lol

Anonymous

i know your j jackson

you obviously an armchair expert

and that one fight is a life time story

a looping left hook rocked your man

followed by a barrage of punches

fight the fight bro

and you will get facts

so keep it real

now

dont get ur hopes up e and p as u id like to see him win…but im afraid for alot of fans of haye use r in for a wakeup call…sorry to say it freidn but use r

ur a boxer brikhead lmao…well that explanation wasnt a very good one so im guessin ur not a very good boxer…funny stuff tho…id love to know wer use r gettin this stuff from.i mean come on be serious wer has who or against has haye proved he can beat a guy like klit???ppl dont hate him because of who he is.they hate him for saying hes going to do something and not do it and for some reason haye fans seem to think its fine for him to take there money to fight bums and hasbeens and in harrisons case a never was lol…idiots

Haye couldnt beat Mormek, Macranelli, Valuev, Ruiz and a whole bunch of other fighters according to so many peoples opinions, but he’s always come through and proven the doubters wrong. The one thing he doesnt get credit for is how smart he is as a businessman and a boxer. He goes in with a well defined strategy and can change mid fight – he is anything but one-dimentional. Can Haye stand in front of Wlad and try to out jab him – no he’ll get worn down and KO’d, clearly he isnt going to do this. He’ll be in and out, moving and landing bombs, just like he did against Valuev, but with a higher frequency. Wlad counter-punches well and has a good defence, but he’s been tagged in many of his last fights by worse opponents than Haye and looked worried, not in trouble necessarily, but worried. Haye has a great chance of KO’ing him if he lands a few massive, concentrated shots, but that is his only chance.

if you are a boxer, you are in trouble. because haye throws looping punches from the outside. and throwing an uppercut from the outside is a good way to get knocked out. haye throws a punch to the back of the head, but i never noticed his uppercut. not to say it doesnt exit, but its never seemed to be his big punch. saying vladimir hasnt changed his style, whether you like him or not, is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. brewster, mounted no offense and never knocked vladimir down. vladimir was so exhausted he couldnt defend himself in that fight. reason? unknown. but brewster was a punching bag with legs until vladimir got tired. vlad has transformed from a puncher, much like haye, who used ring movement as a defense and threw looping punches, constantly looking for a knock out, into a larry holmes style boxer, only with more power. haye was hurt by barrett. he admitted it. vlad didnt have any probem with barretts power. haye has never fought a powerful heavyweight. he has avoided punchers, as well as young fighters, as well as fast fighters. it doesnt bode well for him….

@ j jackson

im a boxer and and fight the fight

and i have never fought or seen a boxer

without a bend in the knee region

and hayes has KOd boxers going under

the right armpit with a right upper cut

and if you have noticed he does not

fight like your typical heavy weight

you assure me vladimir has the better

chin he was knocked down by brewster

and the ref saved him from a more

disaster ending and be on his feet

and brewster was 4 inces shorter

wladimir is one fighter who does not

like being hit regularly which he couldnt

defend against in the fight against

brewster and his so called jack hammer

jab IS HIS defence along with regular

holding at will and haye has more skills

than brewster and he does not just

stand in front to be hit

wladimir has not changed style at all

and steward is the sort of trainer that

says if it aint broke why fix it

you obviously dont watch boxing

like you sound you do as you would

have not posted what you did get facts

or you will sound stupid like the writer

of this article maybe you should watch

more boxing of all divisions with two

eyes and not one

now give yourself two upper cuts

and

keep it real

now

o and ppl who say fight styles make fights…yes ur right they do…and a strong tecnhnicly sound boxer beats a slugger with limited head and foot movement anyday…perfect example of this is hatton vs mayweather..hatton didnt even get a look in…as jackson said haye needs his feet planted for power shots wlad will read this all night b4 stopping him..ur stratagy is one many have tryd for years lol can u not see that…teddy atlas even said something stupid like it and it was pointed out to him that he should go and watch alot of fighters in the recent past who tryd this and failed already…havnt heard anything from atlas since lol…one hell of a rude awakening coming up if haye grows a set and gets into the ring

Anonymous says:
January 1, 2011 at 5:31 am, SHUT UP ABOUT THE WORLD CHAMP, #1 BOXER FIGHTING SCARED, DON’T BE A FOOL. HE KNOCKED THE FU*K OUT 90% OF HIS OPPONENTS.

DIVA GEY IS 6’2ft. The SAME size as Byrd, Ibragimov, Chambers. NO CHANCE OF SURVIVE FOR DIVA. 100% CHANCE OF BEING KTFO BY THE WORLD CHAMPION WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO WHO IS BETTER THE EVER.

NO…NOTHING CAN SAVE THAT LOCAL ENGLISH BOXER FROM GETTING KNOCKED OUT BY THE WORLD CHAMPION WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO

I tend to agree with Shane. I have a feeling that Booth and Haye will come up with some other excuse and then they will try to blame the Klitschko team for the fight not happening. I will be very surprised if Haye actually fights Wladimir.

J Jackson, you obviously know your boxing and are mostly correct in your analysis of Wlad and Haye. One thing that you fail to mention however is Wlads tendency to panic and go back in straight lines when under attack, sure Steward has partially corrected this and Wlad is tall enough to get away with it, I however believe it could be his downfall against a fast agressive right hand puncher like Haye. If Purity, Brewster and Sanders can then Haye can, not saying he will though.

brickhead? do you even watch boxing. to begin with it will be impossible for haye to throw an uppercut from the outside against a man 4 inches taller than him. second haye doesnt have great footwork. and third vladimirs foot work has changed a lot, as has hic stance. vladimir is known for having the best footwork in the business. haye has no jab and loops punches from the outside, giving him no chance of connecting. vladimir has straighter, harder punches. hayes only chance—and where hes at his best—is when he gets inside and flurries. he doesnt have great footwork, because he doesnt move and throw well, he has to have his feet planted to land a punch. he moves, but purely defensively. and haye is not a body puncher, so coming under or around will be difficult. lastly, i assure you vladimir has the better chin. vladimir has been really knocked out once. haye has never really been knocked out but hes been in serious trouble against cruiserweights–mormeck almost ko’d him—and i assure yo vlad would walk thru mormecks punches, just as he did byrds. vladimir also seems to have the better stamina, so he cant do what others have done to win, which is take a beating and let him tire himself out. haye is a staggering mess after 6 rounds—dont know what his stamina issue is…besides, vlad has improved in the last 5 years, haye hasnt changed a bit…and he hasnt taken the risks necessary to improve. haye has fought 3 decent fighters—one at heavyweight. thats not a lot to fall back on. haye will be fighting someone bigger, stronger, faster, and more acomplished than anyone hes been in with. that a long way to reach. vlads jab will be the hardest punch hes ever faced.

Haye hasa lot of disadvantages comming into this fight. But at least he is fighting the brother that will let him hang around long enough to be dangerous. Wlad needs to be more agressive in this one. By agressive I mean throwing the jab with power. Like Lewis get the blood flowing in the first 3 rds. Then we will see how well Haye keeps his composure.

Haye is hard to hit with right hands but he is not fast enough to avoid a jab with his hands down by his waist. The whole game plan for Haye is to get Klitchko to miss and make him pay. Sound gameplan for his style of fighting and could pay off if he can keep from getting hurt. But looking abck at how Wlad beat Byrd two times it was like he was taylor made trying to look for oppenings at a distance he could not hope to land from.

IMO Klitchko is going to stop Haye and expose a very shaky chin. Haye is not durable enough to win this fight.

I agree Haye will not fight unless Vlad comes in blindfolded with one arm tied behind his back.

MARK MY WORD! You heard it here! Haye will not fight. He is doing this all for more publicity. He will find a way out of this fight. He has too. He has about -25% chance (thats a negative number) of winning.