Klitschko-Peter: Will the referee do his job and penalize and/or disqualify Wladimir once he starts clinching?
August 11th, 2010
By Dave Lahr: IBF/WBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko (54-3, 48 KO’s) basically clinched his way to victory five years ago against Samuel Peter (34-3, 27 KO’s). With Wladimir basically draping himself all over Peter like a huge Siberian Tiger rug, Peter had to deal with almost nonstop clinching. It was impossible for Peter to get any daylight to throw his power shots in the fight. The referee would separate Pete and Wladimir, and then after Wladimir would land a shot, he’s immediately grab Peter in a clinch to prevent him from returning fire. To Peter’s credit, he was still able to knock Wladimir down three times in the fight and probably would have knocked Wladimir out had the referee been able to pull Wladimir off of Peter after the 3rd knockdown in the 11th.
If the warnings and the points taken away aren’t enough to correct the behavior of the fighter that’s clinching constantly, then I think they should then be disqualified. In looking at a replay of the Samuel Peter vs. Wladimir Klitschko fight in 2005, I think Wladimir should have been penalized in every round of the fight, and of course disqualified if he didn’t change his ways. However, Wladimir was able to get away with all the clinching and that just wasn’t right. If I was Peter’s manager and promoter, I would have been screaming at the referee from the 1st round on and making myself heard about Wladimir’s excessive clinching. Without the clinching, I think Peter would have knocked Wladimir out early in the fight.
I really hope the referee does his job this time and starts taking off points from Wladimir early in the fight to get him to stop hugging Peter all night long. I want to see a fight, not some kind of stall tactic. It’s not fair for Peter, it’s not fair for the promoters and it’s not fair for boxing fans that have to see that kind of display from a champion. If Wladimir’s brother WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko was able to beat Peter without clinching, then Wladimir should be able to as well. After all, people always say that Wladimir is the better athlete compared to his brother Vitali. If that’s the case, then Wladimir should be able to beat Peter without resorting to hugging him all night long to keep him from punching back.
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please mention and go into detail How Sam Peter fought 375lb Gabe Brown as a tuneup for this fight. Not even Butterbean commanded these dimensions. I would appreciate some run in your next article knocking Wladimir.
the poisoning issue was more complicated then people like to make of it…first of all, a lot of animosity was built up against the k brothers when byrd claimed they put something illegal on their gloves to blind him during their fights in germany. dont forget brewster is byrd’s cousin. and before the fight someone got into vlad dressing room with an illegal pass…it was reported but nothing was amiss or missing. then just before the fight was to take place, there was a burst of heavy betting on brewster who went into the fight a heavy underdog. lastly, don king was brewsters promoter and manager and he hated the k brothers for not signing with him. add that to the fact don king has been caught fixing fights and cheating before and you have an interesting situation. lastly, all of vlads urine and blood specimens taken after the fight that would have told if he was drugged or poisoned disappeared.
I HATE CLINCHING AND GRABBING BUT TO COME FROM DAVE LAHR WHO LOVES WILLIAMS AND MAYWEATHER AND DAVID HAYE SAYS VERY LITTLE ABOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE OF BOXING EITHER HIS JUST STUPID OR HATES ON ALL FIGHTERS BECAUSE THERE NOT BLACK
Mr. Lahr, the ref should be more concerned about Peter’s rabbit punching.
I dont see that being an issue.,I hope its a good fight.The Klitscchco haters need a little excitement.
Well, well, well David you need new glasses and then watch the fight again – you will see the following:
- Peter hitting Wladimir EVERY round behind the neck = Totally
illegal
- Peter hitting Wladimir below beltline every other round =
totally illegal
- Peter pushing his forehead onto chin of Wladimir often =
totally illegal
Furthermore I remember a certain guy named Muhamad Ali, he was then World HW Champion and fams for all night clinching and hidding in (before fight time) loosened ropes
Peter is one of the most unskilled boxers I have ever seen, he
will have absolutely no chance against Wladimir and in Europe
HEADBUTTS AND HITTING BEHIND HEAD WILL LEAD TO DISQUALIFICATION – in this case of Peter !
UK BRAWLER
Who is the sister? Haye is the one you should call sister. He trash talks and then backs out of fighting the K brothers on at least 3 occasions. That is what you call a sister!
Why dont you go and call the K’s sisters to their face. Hayes trash talking must have rubbed off on you. Haye is not going to clean up the division. He should talk less and fight more often and against tough opponents. Haye will pick an easy opponent in Nov – if he decides to fight again this year. Then, he will fight maybe twice more before he retires. I can bet that he will choose some other weak opponents who cannot punch also.
All you abused people out there think am someone famous and rich, when in reality I am just a slave with no brain! Ali would have raped my House negroe ass if I ever boxed during his era-not because I can’t fight, but because I am such a crazy ass uncletom!
I hate the Klitschko’s
@KLitschko2ndComingOfChrist
We will never accept Jesus Christ! Not 2000yrs ago and not today!
I can’t handle the Klitschko’s, I really hate them!
woops, I forgot to sign in as Nasmburtser!
So what if we poisoned the Klitschko! We work for the CIa, what else do you expect!
IF Klitschko was born in a cracker country, he would be known as the saviour!
When will you accept that KLitschko conquer the world fairly easily?
If there is anyone deserving the “sister” tag, it’s lil’ sister Davidia “Hapless” Haye. The girl who would never stop screaming but runs hiding under her bed when getting called on it.
Clinching isn’t “illegal”, *excessive* holding is. Otherwise we would see Ward DQed in 3 rounds in every fight, and that guy is already stretching it.
Regarding points deduction, I am all for it – IF Wlad gets points deducted when he clinches the entire round without throwing a punch, and Peter for *every* rabbit punch, without getting a KD for hurling around the other fighter and knocking him down with rabbit punches or hiptossing them. Otherwise it’s 100% BS.
This is going to be a fight where the Klit sister clinches and jabs untill Peter decides he cant be bothered anymore and quits. YAWN!
go to box rec…there are many heavyweights bigger than vlad…both past and present….what vlad has as well is exceptional hand speed…as well an excellent jab..a right hand that is extremely straight and hard…and because of its straightness and accuracy and timing is hidden by the jab…he hooks off the jab as well as anybody in boxing…he throws many speed punches to confuse his opponant…his balance and footwork are nearly perfect…he know how to turn his opponants…and he has great defense now he has corrected the earlier flaw of leaning too far forward and into the punches…he had stamina issues once as well, but one of his attributes now is that he can throw so many hard, accurate punches without getting tired…a
as ridicuslous an article as usual…peter wouldve have won?…there was one legitimate knock down in the fight and a push down and a rabbit punch…didnt address that at all..and if you are going to disqualify vlad lets got back in time and do the same to ali…who held far more than vlad in many fights…peter let himself be held…he cooperated in the holding by not throwing punches when he was on the inside…if you dont want the referee to break you, then throw punches…watch again…was peters hands behind vlads back when they clinched…if you dont want to be held you keep your hands in front of your opponant and keep punching…its that simple…if not they were both holding regardless of who initiated it…and if there was so much holding how do you account for the high amount of punches vlad landed…look at how well frazier did against ali—except in the 2nd fight when ali never let go of the back of his neck and kept pushing him down (that should have been a dq)—he wouldnt let ali hold by keeping his hands moving on the inside…
I was goin to post askin dave about the rabut punches but seems i was beat to it.so instead im jyst postin to call lahr an asslicker..lahr u r an arse licker
How many top ten guys have gotten in the ring with Wlad over the past six years? And the outcome has been what each time? Give the guy some credit for what he has done, the man has beaten each person the governing bodies have put in front of him. Hell has he lost more than 3 rounds? Say what you will, but he can box, he can move, he knows how to frustrate his opponets. Wlad by KO in the 9th…
I thought Mel Gibson didnt like people now hes into drinking heavily
I had the opportunity to talk to emanual stewart a few weeks ago at a local boxing event in metro detroit, and he assured me the Wladimir is at whole another as an elite fighter than before. he also assured me that they will be going for the knockout in the eighth or ninth round. So be prepared Lahr to see Sam Peters eat canvas!!! He said Wladimir has the ability to go for the knockout in the first round, but he is just too calculated. this will be a very good workout for Wladimir!!
Intersting article, very interesting.
Ohh wait not interesting stupid.
Dave – You did it! You touched on something mildly different from your last two articles, while still keeping your contempt for Wladimir alive; I’m proud of you (that’s me making fun of you). I can see you smirking as you read all these replies; I look forward to the next iteration of “I Hate Wlad”.
Ok, enough “Dave Bashing” – You can’t, with all honesty, feel that those “knock downs” were anything more than Rabbit Punches. Play Devil’s Advocate and write tomorrow’s article about taking points away for punches to the back of the head.
A little bizarre you don’t even acknowledge Peter’s rabbit-punching, which is of course far more dangerous and illegal than excessive clinching.
last i checked fight is in germany or russia and if you can get away with it then get away with it. hollyfield and hopkins had the head but , they got away with it so continued to do it.
mr lahr, why do you have such a sporting prejudice anainst non american boxes.