Roach wants Chavez Jr. vs. Saul Alvarez at 160 rather than 156

By Eric Thomas: If trainer Freddie Roach had his way the prospective mega fight between WBC middleweight champion Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and WBC junior middleweight champion Saul Alvarez will take place at the full middleweight limit of 160 pounds rather than 156 pounds, which would accommodate the smaller Alvarez.

Roach, who trains Chavez Jr., is reportedly against a catch weight for this fight despite his most famous fighter Manny Pacquiao having fought at catch weights a number of times. I guess its good enough for Pacquiao but not good enough for the smaller Alvarez. In this case, the 5’9” Alvarez really needs a catch weight because he only recently moved up to junior middleweight and will be giving away a lot of size against the 6’0” Chavez Jr., who looked huge in his last fight against Peter Manfredo Jr. last weekend.

If both Chavez Jr. and Alvarez were roughly the same size by fight time, this would be a fair fight. But if Chavez Jr. scales in at 180 lbs the night of the fight after rehydrating, it would give Chavez Jr. a tremendous advantage.

Roach may not like it but he’s going to have to accept the 156 pound catch weight because Alvarez’s promoter Oscar De La Hoya has already said he won’t make the Alvarez-Chavez Jr. fight unless it’s at 156. Roach obviously wants Chavez Jr. to have a huge advantage in this fight but it’s not going to happen.

It’s unclear how much longer Chavez Jr. will be able to continue to make the 160 pound middleweight limit because he’s getting bigger and bigger. At some point, he’s going to get diminishing returns and will be too weakened to continue fighting at 160. He’s only 25-years-old and fighters tend to start battling weight problems in their late 20s. At best, I see Chavez Jr. staying at middleweight for the next two, possibly three years. But after that, he’ll have to move up to super middleweight where there really won’t be a place for him there. The division is too good and Chavez Jr. will have to skip that division to try and find success at the weak light heavyweight division.

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14 Responses to “Roach wants Chavez Jr. vs. Saul Alvarez at 160 rather than 156”

  • Anonymous says:

    put chavez in the ring with gregorz proska!! then we will see if he is any good

  • Olbermann says:

    chavez jr is the biggest Fraud in boxing today thanks to Suleman for allowing this kind of garbage to degrade boxing even further!!!!!! way to go suleman your really doin it now screwing things even further.

  • s says:

    Roach has had at least one fighter caught on steroids. So if he has been caught once a reasonable person would think that maybe he has done it more than once. Some may even contemplate that there have been fighters who have been beaten by mediocre opposition who have gone to greatness right after joining roach.
    It must be because he is a good coach. Right?

  • ReYY says:

    @ Tootsie roll … Chavez Jr is a TOP RANK fighter and
    Alvarez is a Golden Boy fighter … so the fight is probably
    Never gonna happen!!!
    And both of these guys are nothing but PAPER CHAMPIONS…
    Chavez’s WBC Middle Weight belt was stripped from
    Martinez due to Martinez choosing to fight P Williams
    Instead of his mandatory challenger..
    And Alvarez WBC light middleweight belt was vacated by Pacquiao after defeating Margarito…
    Both of these so fought for these belts against C- level fighters…!!!!!!!!

  • jc says:

    stop catch weight. no alvarez martinez or alvarez chavez. they should match up chavez to martinez.

  • rjhill says:

    160 is not unreasonable.However Cinamon will win.

  • tootsie roll says:

    put chavez with a real fighter to see if he is a good fighter like his pops, stop setting amateur fights for him Oscar lol.

  • Fan says:

    why not Alvarez vs Martinez? I guess Martinez is TOO BIG too?

  • Fake Jr says:

    Cesar chavez jr is just a boxer who lives of his daddys name, i give him props his a decents fighter his done well mostly for a fighter who skipped amateur fights, but he is so over hyped he thinks he is a legend and that he is the best in the whorld and there is many many fighter better then him, we all know Sergio Martinez is the undisputed middle weight champ so why doesnt he fight him at 160 if his so good.

  • TOOL says:

    Martinez is not asking for a catchwieght. Why dont you just fight him. Is 160 vs 160 so crazy?

  • Anonymous says:

    typical roach… only wants to fight with catchweights if his catchweight champion pacman is fighting

  • jonnyl says:

    typical roach he is against catchweights unless it favours his fighters and always trying to gain any unfair adavantag he possibly can

  • mannyfresh209 says:

    oh ok roach wants to ban catchweights… until pacquiao wants to fight martinez

  • vdog says:

    Roach is a fraud.

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