Haye Upset With Three-Fight Contract with Klitschko Brothers – News
April 5th, 2009
By Eric Thomas: Former cruiserweight champion David Haye (22-1, 21 KOs) made a deal with the devil when he signed to fight International Boxing Federation (IBF), World Boxing Organization (WBO) heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko (52-3, 46 KOs) on June 20th in Germany.
According to Haye, he had to sign away his next three fights in order to seal the deal with Wladimir Klitschko. If Haye defeats Wladimir in a rematch, next up would be Vitali Klitschko, the current World Boxing Council heavyweight champion who also wants a crack at Haye. “I’ve got to fight three Klitschkos,” Haye said to Setanta Sports.
Haye says that the initial contract was even worse than the one that he eventually signed, saying that it showed how much “wusses they are.” Although Haye didn’t give any details about the other contract, if it’s indeed worse than the one he signed, then it must have been really bad.
Haye found the contracts off-putting, making him believe that the Klitschko brothers lack confidence in themselves if they need “stupid contracts” like the one they presented.
Despite signing the contract, Haye doesn’t believe that he’ll be fighting a third fight with the Klitschko brothers, remarking that after beating Wladimir and Vitali, neither of them will want to fight him again. In that case, Haye feels that the Klitschkos would have to bring out their uncle if they want to continue to have someone in the family to fight him.
One person who might suffer badly if Haye comes out the winner on June 30th is IBF mandatory challenger Alexander Povetkin, who already has been waiting for a shot at Wladimir’s IBF title since defeating Chris Byrd in 2008. Povetkin hurt his ankle in December, which destroyed a chance at getting his shot against Wladimir.
If Haye defeats Wladimir, and then beats him again in a rematch six months later, Povetkin would still have to wait longer for Haye to face Vitali, and then another fight beyond that.
As much as Haye might be frustrated with having to sign the three-fight contract in order to get a shot at Wladimir, Haye could have refused to sign it and walked away. It’s his fault for signing it, because no one forced him to accept the contract. Either he could have called Wladmir’s bluff and said he wouldn’t sign it, or he could have just walked out of the negotiation process completely and looked in another direction.
The problem with that is it would mean that Haye would effective have to work his way into a title shot against Klitschko by probably fighting someone like Alexander Dimitrenko, the 6’7” number #1 ranked WBO heavyweight. I’m sure that Haye is very confident of his boxing skills and power, but that fight could turn out to be a disaster for Haye.
Dimitrenko is huge, hits plenty hard and knows how to use his height and reach against shorter opponents like Haye. Chances are, Dimitrenko might beat Haye, which would force Haye to have to work hard and long to get another shot at a big time fight like the ones that the Klitschko brothers present to him.
I’m sure that they probably pointed this out to Haye as well, which is probably why he grit his teeth and signed it. Haye could fight in the heavyweight division for a long time before he runs into heavyweights as popular as the Klitschkos.
There’s probably out there somewhere, someone that hasn’t turned pro yet, but with Haye saying he wants to retire from boxing by the age of 30, he can’t afford to wait around.
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leave Adam in his world:) you can talk about contract, and he’ll talk about “you haye nutthugers”
) it’s like talking to the blind:)
but this guy is probably the only one SO SURE about the outcome, that he requires everyone to admit it. The only thing you can do satisfy his sick appetite is to say that Haye will definitely and 100% lose + Klitschko is a god and so exciting that people feel like the fire’s burning under their butts.
One thing he can’t realize is, that probably no one here says “Haye will win”, but “we want him to win”. And this is probably prohibited to in this guys little world.
I explained further up why this is a joke of a contract, but just for you, i will better explain it.
If Haye wins, it is likely Wlad will be getting the first rematch (pride, and Vitali is tied up with WBC mandatory), therefor the title is tied up until December time. 6 months.
Should Haye win the rematch, Vitali will want his shot at Haye, titles therefor will have been tied up for 12 months by the time this takes place.
We all know Vitali will likely beat Haye, but regardless of which one of them win, it will be another 6 months before a mandatory challenger can try for the WBO and IBF titles, making it a total of 18 months. And for arguments sake, if Haye was to somehow beat Vitali, he would then look for a rematch, meaning 6 months later (24 months of tied up titles by this point).
Its all theoritical, but COULD possibly happen. Nothing is set in stone. Should Wlad win, all of the above wont happen, but the brothers are very obviously planning ahead and arent confident in winning. All this psyching out talk is crap, they are just afraid to lose the titles.
Yes it does work out well for Haye, but he would have got the shot regardless of being tied into it or not, all he had to do was beat Wlad.
Who gets shat on in this deal is Povetkin and Dimitrenko, who regardless of whether they are ready or not, are entitled to get a shot. The brothers have cheated this opportunity away from them by making Haye sign this deal. Granted only if Haye wins, but still, there is a chance.
You might not like it but he does have a point.
You run your mouth but still didn’t tell me what was rediculous about the contract.Was it the rematch clause?Or the Vitali fight?Ya, because no champions put rematch clauses in their contracts right?The fight with Vitali?He said he wanted both Bros.What’s so rediculous?What’s rediculous is a big mouth idiot that has had to move up to Heavyweight and call out the Klitschko’s to get noticed.Nobody knew who this fool was before he came running his mouth.Then he takes on the big punching Monte Barret as a warmup.LMFAO!!!If he was any kind of a man he woulda tested his ability against a top Heavy.But we all know what woulda happened.We wouldn’t be talkin about Haye right now.David Haye has been knocking out little btch as* nobodies and now you Haye nuthuggers think he can all of a sudden KO the best Heavy in the world.And to prove this you guys wanna say”Well look at Holyfield etc.David Haye couldn’t touch the sweat on Holyfields as*.Just because Haye is moving up doesn’t mean he’s even in the same league.I think Haye is in the league of Juan Caelos Gomez.Haye has done nothing and his punk ass is gonna get KO’d real quick by a real Champion.Canvas nap btches
heh….As Scott said – ko is not worth sh*t if the way leading to the ko is painful to watch. And painful it is.
And coming back to you “you don’t know who will win?” – it’s plain dumb. Nobody knows who WILL win, as long as we’re not a prophets here. What the f**k is it? Back to the future 3? Did you as Michael Fox?
Yeah – he was knocking some of them out, but don’t forget, he was knocked down and out by some of them. Big cha(u)mps like Davaryll Williamson, S Peter not to mention golfer Sanders or soldier of Christ with detached retina Brewster. Mind the gap between the train and the platform, bacuase one day you might slip in the hole. Peace and love, and roses for the soldiers of the Lord.
OK, first off, no Haye didnt earn his shot but NOBODY ELSE IS STEPPING UP. And from what i saw of Povetkin, he is a tad over-rated anyway and isnt ready for his shot yet.
This contract has nothing to do with psyching Haye out either. This is the brothers taking advantage of a guy who’d do anything to make the fight. As Haye said, you should have seen the contract they first wanted him to sign. Vitali wanted Haye first, but he had to fight his mandatory, because he now has to fight a second mandatory defense of the WBC belt, he has tied Haye up so he eventually gets his shot at him.
Vitali and Wlad both know Haye is dangerous and he could beat Wlad, by signing him up to such a ridiculous contract, they more or less secure the titles for themselves.
Besides that, Haye is the only guy at Heavyweight who can draw in serious money against either brother, because they are boring to watch therefor people have lost interest. Yes they have a superb KO ratio between them, but the manner in which they reach a KO is dull to watch. KO’s are only interesting if the run up was worthy. A KO doesnt make the fight great, nor the fighter.
And JJ, one thing you will learn fast on here is Adam is a massive Klitschko fan. He is actually writing the Klitschko bible to go along with his new founded Klitschkoism religion. Theres nothing wrong with supporting a fighter, but we all know where fanaticism leads….dont we!!????
But Adam, Haye can hit, regardless of your opinion of him, the man can bang. He hasnt carried the one punch KO ability he had at Cruiserweight, but after 4 or 5 on the chin, any Heavyweight out there will wobble. Wlads the same, not got the one big finish before he starts punch, but if he bombs you enough, your out.
yeah – even if he hits him 10 times in a row, each shot will be lucky…..
I don’t know who’s Haye lover here – because I’m not. But what I start to suspect that you watching Klitschko fights on fast forward, and that’s why we’re talking about two different things.
Adam – what you said before doesn’t make sense from the logical point of view – and it’s completely unrelated to my love for Haye.
I always say
a/ I don’t know who’ll win
b/ for now Klitschko’s are the best]
c/ They bore me (and not only me) to tears
c/ I wish Haye all the best
I think it’s quite well grounded. But if you know who will win, and how, just drop me a line and I’ll bet some money.. .
Seems as if all these Haye lovers are hoping for a lucky punch, or you guys wouldnt care about how many times they fight.The more times Haye takes canvas naps the better.
This has nothing to do with boxing Haye again, this is about wrecking his head and it would appear to be doing just that very good psych out. Counters all Haye and his bull. Well done keep it up.
and one more thing – Haye didn’t say that it’s some sort of “disaster for him” and that he’s upset by the prospect of fighting them, because it’s very damn logical that it would happen anyway, without signing any contracts, for christ sake!
you don’t need to be a magican attorney/manager to figure out, that in every championship fight (with very rare exeptions when challanger is perceived as much bigger star then actual champion. Like in case of Tyson, Pacquaio, DeLa Hoya). But the STANDARD procedure assumes a rematch, if champion choses so. Because he’s every right to redeem himself, and it’s in every TEMPLATE of the contract. We wouldn’t even hear about all this fuss, if they sticked to a simple rematch clause. So beg you a pardon but whole this thing is moronic.
The only reason for building such a ridiculous contract is unceratinity… Another one might be: they did not want Wladimir to fight Haye. They prefered Vitali to fight him.
And anyone with basic a pair of eyes and iq over 80 knows why….
And by the way – please show me more fight contracts like this – because I’ve never heard of anything like this.
If anyone was stupid in this negotiations it’s Klitschko side, becuase they simply fought back and forth for something that would get anyway in a very quiet and natural way.
And – once again – whole this 2 additional fights are showing that they are preparing for Klitshcko losing the first fight. It’s crystal clear
Why is this a rediculous contract?Maybe because Haye’s mouth got him into trouble.Haye has said all alond that he wants to fight both brothers.You dont expect Wlad to have a rematch clause in his contract?So the K-Bros made Haye put his big mouth trash talkin into a contract.If anything this shows that the klitschko Bros wanna beat Haye’s brains in.Haye said he wanted to knockout these 2 bums and he gets the chance to and he starts cryin about it.In fact Haye’s lucky that he did’t sign a 4 fight deal because Vitali should have a rematch clause in his contract with Haye also.He got the fights he wanted and he’s cryin like a btch.
HAYE DIDN’T EARN THE TITLE SHOT. He should consider himself very lucky to be given the chance to JUMP THE QUEUE infront of everyone and fight Wladimir and Vitali.
Aren’t those the fights that what he wanted anyway? those are the biggest fights out there and that’s what Haye wanted. I’m really starting to dislike Haye arrogant big mouth and I’m British and on his side.
Pathetic, wat a disgrace makin Haye sign up for 3 fights – sounds like sum kind of 1980s/1990s Don King agreement! I hope Haye gets paid well for this and destroys them both. Cum on Hayemaker
All this means is haye has no chance at the end of being a heavyweight champion. I do believe he has a chance of beating Wlad. But then Again… And then Vitali. Too much. That means he has to go 3 fights with the Klitschko’s without being tagged on the chin once, because When he does he will go down.
Like i said 1 fight against Wlad i give haye a very good chance. But these odds are really stacked against him
D crowther makes a good point, beat Wlad then dump the titles, id go with that option.
This contract may suit Haye, he gets the big fights he wanted, but my gripe with this isnt on Hayes behalf. No hes not the madatory for either title, but the guys that should be getting the shot havent shown interest and Haye has.
My problem with it is simple, should Povetkin or Dimitrenko want a shot in the next year, they have no chance should Haye win. Haye will be tied up and the titles with him should he get through Wlad. They are the two guys most entitled to a shot, Povetkin has just fought and didnt look great so will probably be looking for another bout before taking his shot at the title, Dimitrenko im not sure about at the moment.
The fact that these two arent ready is irrelevant, they are entitled to get their shot.
its still the best option for haye ,,,, if he beats wlad ,, whats to stops him dropping the belt in the trash can ,, it means nothing , he can then name his price , he becomes the man everbody wants to fight ,, even if he honours i fancy his chances against wlad then again in a rematch ,,,,, by this time vitalie will be even further past his prime
either way as long as haye is getting paid well i am sure he will be smiling
Hang on, did that article really just refer to the Klitschko’s as “popular”? I take it that that statement was meant as an ironic/sarcastic joke.
Hope Haye retires them both. That would atleast be two less boring clinchers out of the division
what kind of contract is this? im shocked its been allowed. i actually disliked haye before all this but now iv changed my mind and i actually want him to knock wlad out but i doubt it will happen
Does this 3 fight thing work both ways? i.e. If Haye gets a proper kicking from Vladimir (I really hope he doesn’t) and it proves he’s out of his depth, does that mean he has to get back in the ring for another pasting?
We know David has the power to blast this guy out, but let’s hope he can avoid the Robot’s 1-2.
a ridiculous contract, but a very smart one. the K brothers have done great for themselves on this one, so fair play. at the end of the day, it’s what we all wanted to see as spectators anyway, so it’s all good.
on the point of the mandatory’s, lets be honest, neither are up to scratch yet for a title fight so prehaps in the long run it’s for the best. i can’t see wlad being beaten by them at all and i don’t really rate hayes chances either, although i do hope he wins.
the WBO and IBF should do something about it however, in order to maintain fairness, but won’t. this is because they will be recieving a hell of a lot of money for sactioning the fights, a lot more money than they would have previously ordered- you can be sure of that.
Haye is not mandatory challenger, he has jumped the queue, so why is it unfair? They are protecting their interests, just as Haye is by being paid nicely to knocked out, instead of a carl thompson. Vlad will put this guy on his ass in the round of his choosing. Rahman would knock him the hell out, and he is no Rock.
You know that article about Haye scaring Wladimir into losing by his psyching him out, well what do you think this is. The Brothers hate Hayes guts and are causing him al sorts of upset. He has no right to this fight and both Brothers know that, so mess him around both out of the ring and in it. Haye CAN beat Wlad but wont, Haye cant beat Vitali so Will be beaten senseless, Haye may be able to beat Dimitrenko but I doubt that to. So to summarise Haye has been beaten at the contract stage, and the Psyching out stage, that only leaves the fight. I really hope to see this one because he has stirred up a hornets nest and IS going to get stung.
Ridiculous contract. I hope Haye wins even more than I did before now. A rematch clause would be fair enough, but to have his next 3 fights tied up is way over the top.
The IBF should have the bottle to step in and demand the winner of Haye v Wladimir Klitschko fights Povetkin or gives up the title… regardless of what contracts Haye or Wladimir sign.
The WBO should be equally as pushy with their mandatory contender/title.
They can use voluntary defences to fight each other/fight whatever this stupid contract says.
C’mon The Hayemaker!
Haye as only been shouting so loud to get what he wants .Seems very smart to me .Lets all just hope he can get rid of the robots once and forall.You have my vote david knock ten bells out of em both………………..have it…..
I’m looking forward to hearing David Haye’s upcoming album
The saying “be careful what you wish for because it might come true” Hayes was shouting his mouth off at the klitschko brothers saying he beat either of them and saying he would set the heavyweight division on fire well he,s got his wish so he should shut up and walk the walk and not talk the talk and he better keep that chin tuck well in.
Haye should thank his lucky stars that he is allowed to fight Wladimir at all. As a heavyweight nobody his complaining is falling on mostly deaf ears.
I wonder if the brothers make all challengers sign such dodgy contracts?
This deal isnt only bad for Haye, its bad for Heavyweight boxing.
It means Povetkin and Dimitrenko have to wait for a year at least for a shot at the belts. IBF and WBO should be stepping in now.
Haye should feel no guilt for signing this one, as he said last night, he wants the brothers and this is what he had to do to get them. After hearing him confirm the details, I hope he destroys both brothers, damaged and KO’d, they wont want him a third time.
Its such a shame for the mandatorys, they should be calling the respective alphabet organisations and asking serious questions as to why they allow the title to be tied up in this manner.
The brothers are a joke and a disgrace. They know that Hayes mouth has got people talking and are cashing in on his popularity, not at the expense of their precious belts though, of course.
It’s pretty low of the brothers to demand 3 fights from Haye. I agree with Haye, sounds like they lack confidence to me also.
Im not suprised Haye aint happy with his contract its a little ridiculous really.
But thats the negotiating power the Klitchkos posess over a desperate and eager Haye who hasnt been flattening big name after big name at heavyweight.
They saw his desperation for the fight and took him to the cleaners.
Whether Haye is so desperate because he sees it as a weak division and he wants to get to the top quick or whether he thinks hes gotta get in quick as too many warm up fights are too risky is not even interesting to me. If he really is so dodgy and out of his depth he will be found out on the night.
Haye has said that hes guna do such a job on Vlad and then Vitali they wont even want a 3rd fight. Personally cant see him making a mockery of them myself though.