Tua A True Warrior: Fighting with a Torn Shoulder Muscle
July 25th, 2010
By David S Patterson: After the draw against Monte Barrett on the 17th July 2010 I have been puzzled why Tua had such a bad performance. I am definitely not taking anything away from Barrett he came in ready to fight and fight he did.
So I’ve watched the fight tape to see where Tua went wrong and the obvious sign was he had gained weight and did not look as conditioned as he was in the Shane Cameron and Friday Anunanya fight and after the fist 5 rounds he seemed hesitant in finishing Barrett off. As a boxing trainer I immediately knew something was either wrong with Tua physically or mentally going into this fight. I had no evidence so I just thought he just had a bad night.
Meeting Tua twice and seeing him in sparring sessions you would know straight away Tua is that type of person that would go to war, even if he was not ready or even injured. To me this was very unwise and maybe he felt pressure to fight this fight to keep on track for a title shot but I believe he should have canceled this fight because it almost cost him.
David Tua should of let the fans know what was wrong with him before and after the fight but I guess he didn’t want to use excuses and let what happens… happen.
I am satisfied now and believe once Tua recovers the next fighter will be in trouble and also now we know why Tua wanted a rematch with Barrett. Doctor has said Tua needs 6 weeks to rest and then he will probably be reassessed.
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@ Vin hey sorry about the mama and dad insults, definitely was joking at first but I got a little carried away. And to you Stu (I know you follow me around) eat me lol. Cheers
@ Vin lol Its hard for my kids to not cross her path… if shes standing outside the school selling crack lmao But all good now I told ya mama they were giving out free crack at the Police Station so she going to get some lol Cheers buddy
Say hi to your boyfriend Haye and tell him to MAN UP!! lol
Excuses excuses.
Thats a bummer of a thing to happen,That will hamper anyones bout in sumo wrestling.why so long before report?
@NZBoxer I appreciate the fact your a Tua cheerleader and I can understand as a fan the fraustration its been throwing up your pom poms when he knocks out no name bums like cameron and then being brought back to earth when humiliated by the likes of Barrett when you expected a KO! – As a Big fan of Tua myself my comments are more direct as of a dissapointment more then anything, but hey if you think my mama needs to retire, tell ya kids to stop meeting her at the corner lmao! cheers to you buddy!
Some say its over for tua and its time to hang up the gloves.In any sport you dont always have your way.If Tua failed to live up to expectations,then now we all know why.In the past boxers would come up with any excuse just to pullout of a fight eventhough they were’nt injured.Listen to everyone bagging tua,the only one not making excuses is the Tuaman himself.A true warrior does his talking in the ring.Give the man a chance,if he fails to win his next,then ya’l can have your say.As for me and my crew,Go Tuaman,ofa lahi atu
Setting the record straight: You are absolutely correct. Following weight for last 3 fights”
Tua vs Shane Cameron – 107.8 kgs
Tua vs Friday – 108.7
Tua vs Barrett – 107.7
I have no issues with that and always knew that but Tua in his first 2 fights was toned and was carry less weight around the mid section against Barrett you could see the obvious change of body shape straight away, esspecially around the mid section.
I was going to go into more about his “weight” in the article but I thought it was not really what the article was about remember but I guess you cant keep everyone happy and there is going to critics out there. Remember muscle weighs more than fat and in saying that Tua gained “FAT” and lost “Muscle definition” is that better now?
Nice article and Tua look like sh%t on the night and I was very unimpressed with what I saw but since this revelation I do beleive that Tua went in with an injury and I will still back Tua all the way. A real shame he did not let people know straight away because I do feel a little guilty now for bagging him on here after the fight. When have we ever heard Tua make excuses, I think this is his first Ive ever seen on here or heard so why is everyone been so hard on Tua, is he not aloud to set the record straight?
@ David S Patterson
Tua did not gain weight in the Barrett fight? Get your facts straight. He weighed in at 237 against Barrett, 239 against Anunanya and 237 against Cameron
Am i the only one who thinks Tua is nothing but an overweight brawler who has no technique? Hes short 5’10, fat and slow, always the aggressor in every fight but still nobody can knock him out. Can somebody tell me why?
Am i the only one who thinks Tua is nothing but an overweight brawler who has no technique? Hes short 5’10, fat and slow, always the aggressor in every fight but still nobody can knock him out. Can somebody tell me why?
nzboxer..you make some good points, but two fighters dont go out into a parking lot and fight…just because tua issued a challenge doesnt mean the other fighter can act on it…you need backers, a venue, public interest and vitali was the number one contender…tua wasnt even in the top 10 at the time if i remember correctly…and tuas non performance against lewis had hurt him more than a ko loss would have…secondly yes everybody wants to write off a fighter just because he gets kod…well fighters are bigger these days and its going to happen even to the best…and hbo tried to get rid of vlad after his loss—his fans backed off..he was laughed at–when they put him in the ring with peter it was to get rid of him…peter was considered to be all wrong for vlad…big puncher, can take a punch, will either ko vlad or wear him down and cause him to surrender…tua just needs to bounce back like that
all these idiots saying; “its an excuse” this isnt a tua interview; he didnt make an excuse; Kushner mentioned it post fight. DAVID DOESNT MAKE EXCUSES,
No wonder Tua didnt finish Barrett off on several occassions. Im a current boxer and trust me fighting with a shoulder injury is just plain dumb and suicidal esp Tua being only 5’10 and Barrett 6’3, Tua really underrated Barrett. And yes i am a Barrett fan, ive been for many years and i personally dont think Barrett should take the rematch. Just leave it be and finish on a high against a worthy opponent.
As for the scorecards, i gave it 1 point in favour of Tua. Reason being, Tua was the aggressor throughout the entire fight winning many early rounds 10-8. Whereas there were no rounds “Two Guns” obviously won apart from the last.
It was intresting in that fight that when ever Tua obviously won a round, Bob Sheridan criticized Tua whether that was enough. Then when rounds were a draw he gave it to Barrett, then when Barrett won rounds Sheridan called it a draw, i guess thats a good commentor tactic to keep viewers intrested…
I wish Klitschko had as much heart to go with his ring generalship.
a face only a mother could love
Tua just making excuses as to why he got beat…cmon david be a man, and take your beating like one!! You got a gift in a draw as it is. dont make yourself look even worse by crying about it!!
Way to go Tua you are the man and USA aint got no good HW’s anymore so you are the only hope to beat that big mouth Brit and give the K bro’s a run for their money. USA who you got in the HW? hehehe
@ Mark Awesome stuff Tua, you got fans here in Boston and to Mark you compared Audley Harrison Vs Sprott II to Tua vs Barrett lol Sprott was Klitschko sparring partner and both these guys would get beat by Barrett and prob by Tua with a torn shoulder muscle and a broken leg.
“as a Boxing trainer”?? lol
@ Vin Oh you mean Tua might get embarrassed like Haye getting TKO by a 40 year vet? or embarrassed like Wladimir vs Sanders? lmao Tua gets a DRAW and gets Knocked down but its over for him? and these 2 get TKO really bad and the media all said their careers are in trouble too back then. So Tua do your thing and Vin the only person that should retire is ya mama selling crack on the street corner to kids lol Cheers buddy. Serious I cant stop laughing, please watch Sanders destroy Wladinir and tell me why Sanders didnt want to fight Tua after this fight? Tua put a challenge out to Sanders and he didnt want to know about it.
if this is true it just shows he is a one dimensional fighter, 1 problem and the whole night goes wrong !! he gets called a warrior for fighting on lol
- Audley Harrison Vs Sprott II – 3rd round Audley tears a Pectoral Muscle and carnt lift his right hand … yet still fights the remaining 9 rounds with 1 arm and gets a KO in the 12th … BUT he is still a joke
- David Haye Vs Valuev – Haye hit Valuev with a right hand to the head and breaks his hand, yet still fights the remaining 10 rounds to a points decision victory – he gets the most stick of all fighters
it doesnt matter what condition Tua was in, good fighters find a plan B and can get through a fight with a bum with an injury …. it has just exposed Tua as 1 dimensional, survive the first 4 rounds and he is for the taking
Also hopefully this injury will be enough to make him retire, his reputation has taken enough of a beating, spare him the beating by a Klitschko
IT WAS FINE !
Please!! His performance was Sh#t, the condition he looked in was Sh#t and the KO was a straight up disgrace, I mean dont get me wrong Im a fan of Tua, however, if you werent 100% you dont fight! its that simple. If thats the excuse of why he lost or should I say he should have lost then I guess only time will tell.. But like Ive said before, times up, retire now before you get really get embarrassed.
The TUAman is full of guts n fury.. U shud not destroy a mans reputation before u know da facts.. David Tua is a born fighter.. Watch out next opponent, if he is a 100% ur getting the F knocked out, BIG LEFT HOOK STYLEE!! Bratttt
I was really really disappointed with the fight……But now that I have read this article – I must say that I love David even more. It may have been wise to wait – but knowing David, He’ll fight through the pain.
In the Tomasz Adamek and Chris Arreola fight – Chris battled a broken finger/hand during the fight but he fought on. He’s a warrior too…..Which makes me believe that those two (David and Chris) should fight.
Tua is a used up fat flob, he should get back to eating KFC
Hey good article and I do hope Tua has a better showing in the next fight. Big Mike are you crazy… Barrett stayed retired and be happy you got a good result fighting an ihjured Tua but full credit to Barrett. The only guy who has experience Xmas around here is Haye… He has taken the most easiest road to the HW championship and talks trash then makes excuses to not fight!!! Tell Haye to MAN UP lol
It’s strange that you say he’d put on weight for the Barrett fight-when in actual fact he was lighter than in the 2 previous fights that you highlight!
Barret won that fight…No question about that and that fight was suppose to be he’s last fight but maybe he should take the rematch he needs the money an extra pay check wouldn’t be bad..Right Monte?So maybe take the fight and this time you most finish him off…And he’ll just retired with a win if is by way K.O even better…this guy tua use to fight all bunch of bums to get to the top..Now he thinks it’s goin to happen again…C’mon men everyday it’s not goin 2 be Christmas..Step up and fight the real fighters..And Monte barret he’s not even on he’s prime.Hope he’s shoulder gets better…and then what’s the next excuse…Man up dawg!!’