Arum and Roach prefer Pacquiao to fight Mosley next

@ chris williams: You have no ideal what your talking about. If this fight is not fixed, mosley will destroy mayweather.

This is why I wish this Mosley would upset Floyd. I get tired of all these writers acting like he’s a bum just because he’s 38. These writers are the same ones that wouldn’t give him a snow balls chance in hell against Margarito. Then when he beat him he was the giant killer and the best welter weight in the world. Now that he’s fighting Floyd he’s a nobody again. That is not fair to Floyd or Shane.

I think the Pac camp were wise to avoid Mosely at the start of Pac’s WW career but I was giving Cotto the edge over Pac, shows what I know.

If the fight ever gets made it’ll probabaly be too little too late but I want to see how Mosely preforms against Mayweather before I come to a conclusion.

Oh C’mon guys, dont be stupid. Cant u understand the pattern of hyping the pacquiao-mayweather fight?? It is sure to happen but only after both of them had extracted the most money from other opponents. Floyd will appear to duck and pacquaio seems to be at his pride,,.. but it s all part of the boxing mafia to get the most money. Floyd wins first fight could be UD , SD or KO, manny ko’s floyd in the 2nd fight then the winner goes for the legacy proper in a non-scripted fight. The 3rd fight is the only real fight!!

MOSLEY HAS A PUNCHERS CHANCE MAYWEATHER AINT GONNA TOE 2 TOE SPLIT DEC MONEY FAR AS PACMAN MOSLEY PACMAN BEAT ALL OLD FIGHTERS MOSLEY WILL FIGHT BACK AND HE GOT POP IN BOTH HANDS AND HES FAST AT 38 AND CAN TAKE A PUNCH MOSLEY WILL BREAK PACMAN DOWN WITH BODY SHOTS AND HOOKS DROPPIN HIM IN THE 10TH AND FINISHING HIM IN THE 11TH HELL IF HE CATCH MAYWEATHER FLUSH MAYWEATHER GONE TOO MOSLEY CAN BENCH 400 LBS A GOOD OLD FASHION SLUGFEST LONG AS THE MAFIA DONT FIX IT AND ROB MOSLEY IN A CLOSE ONE

Team Pacquiao needs to focus on Clottey Mayweather and Mosley are not even talking about Pacquiao right now so why does team Pacquiao continue to talk about fighters they’re not fighting Pacquiao needs to get past Clottey 1st then worry about the winner of Mayweather vs Mosley he had a chance to fight Mosley already and chose to fight Cotto and he had a chance to fight Mayweather and he didn’t wanna do the testing so he should just focus on Clottey until March 14th

IM SORRY BUT YOU CANT CALL YOURSELF GREAT BY BEATING LOOSERS OF BIG FIGHTS. AND THATS WHAT MANNY HAS DONE.
1. BEAT WATER DRAINED DELAHOYA AFTER HE LOST TO FLOYD
2. FOUGHT HATTON AFTER HATTON GOT TKO’ED BY FLOYD
3. FOUGHT COTTO AFTER COTTO GOT DESTROYED BY MARGARTIO
4. IS FIGHTING CLOTTEY AFTER CLOTTEY LOST TO COTTO
5. AND HIS NEXT FIGHT IS SUPPOSE TO BE AGAINST MARGARITO WHO GOT DESTROYED BY MOSLEY. IM SORRY BUT YOU CANT CALL YOURSELF GREAT BY DOING THIS
LOOK AT SOMEONE LIKE BERNARD HOPKINS. WHO
1. BEAT DELAHOYA IN HIS PRIME
2. BEAT TRINIDAD IN PUERTO RICO IN HIS PRIME
3. BEAT WINKEY WRIGHT IN HIS PRIME
4. BEAT PAVLIC IN HIS PRIME.
HE BEAT THE WINNERS OF THE BIG MATCHES NOT THE LEFT OVER SCRAPS. SAY WANT YOU WANT. YOU CAN NOT BE CONSIDERED GREAT BY BEATING ALL THE LOOSERS OF BIG FIGHTS YOUR SUPPOSE TO FIGHT THE WINNERS OF THE MATCHES.

quote – “sow the seeds of the doubt and let it spread among the ignorant and fools,then stand back and admire the chaos you’ve created” – macchiavelli.

what really makes me shake my head is that some people write too long putting all what manny pacquiao had done as nothing worth mentioning.
if i were to compare those long analysis with what most boxing writers, who have covered boxing for years and have seen many boxers come and go, have written about manny, i’d say most respected writers are stupid that they don’t see what these sugar-people and will-smiths have seen.
but i think, after some shallow thinking, these sugar-smithens are just, well, frustrated they don’t get paid writing analyses purported to be better than journalists who cover sports as a living…hohum….

y would an undefeated fighter take a risk on his biggest fight in his carrer with a fighter who could posibly b on roids. thats y he wants the blood testing. and u guys r idiots it shud raise red flags right when he declined. we r in the steroids eraa. and all these fighters/ athletes all sayed they wer clean and they worked hard and it turns out they wer on roids(a-rod,barry bonds,marion jones.). if u guys dunt see wats goin on then u guys are all idiots.

floyd sayed he used cylocaine in 2001 and y didnt u guys jump on him from that time. i know y. cuz u birds jus became boxing fans. or sory i shud say pacman fans

My take is simply this. FIghters fight. If Floyd is as great as he says. And he could very well be he messed up his opportinity to fight Manny by coming up with something that he never required before this random blood testing. If he didn’t have a doubt in his mind that Manny could beat him he wouldn’t have evr brought up the issue of rndom blood testing. Just as he hasn’t in his previous 40 fights Floyd didn’t cherry pick this fight it was demande and he had noe where to go without looking like a coward so he tried to make stipulations he knew would be contested.If the truth was to be told he is scared to death to fight Mosley because things will be exsposed in his fight game that he doent want anyone to see like he cant tke a punch the same way Roy jones his behind his tactics for years Floyd wants no parts of Many or Shane he is fighting for the Money and not for the love of the sport in this one thats why he will lose to either fighter if he fights anyone else other than maybe Paul Williams which we know he wouldn’t even dare to step in the ring with he looks weak that is why floyd has benn fighting all these small guys

Floyd says he wants to clean up the sport of Boxing? I find it it really suspect that he chose the PAC fight to put his foot down and become this savior for a cleaner sport.

Gimme a break. Ask yourself why this demand was not put upon any previous fighters Floyd faced. He has to ask now and every future fight, cause if he doesn’t he comes across like what he really is, a stone coward.

And @ Blacksmith, As far as asking for 10mil for every pound he would have come over, that seems like a message to come in at the weight you have AGREED on, and not try to take the easy route by coming in over weight and get away with a measly fine.

I think your smarter than that.

if the pacman agrees to all of floyd’s demands (purse split, random tests ad nauseum), do you actually think floyd will sign to fight the pacman? it took him awhile before he signed against a 38y/o shane, who agreed to all his demands

Hi HATERS. Hey what happened to Pac’s supporters….no answers for all these questions?
no explanations? Seems like people are finally seeing Arum’s BS. Seems to me like no “juice no fight”. Pac just take the test and fight how you always fight and EVERYBODY will love you. That’s what you gotta do my brotha.

Blacksmith….you have written one of the best responses I have ever read, great job my friend.

vandetta im desputing what he sais with facts. first of all floyd said he would have blood taking stoped 14 days b4 fight. secound there is video tape of him getting blood taken 24 days b4 hatton fight and he looked fine. did not looked bothered or upset. very relaxed and did great that fight. had blood taken 20 days b4 clottey fight then proceaded to go to gym and have a long strong training day that was documented. and third you hait needles but have been inked all over your body. thease are facts not talking junk just stating facts. wake up.

@ Bri

You’re an idiot. Pacquiao has stated that psychologically, he feels he’s worse off for the blood taken out of him. If you know the history about it, you’ll know that it’s one of the factors he put forth as a reason to the first Morales fight.

People have superstitions. If you play any sports instead of being a couch potato commentator, you’d know something about sports supersitions.
Besides the physical aspet of it, sports requires a strong mental discipline for success. Why do you think Floyd does his trash-talking…it’s to psych out his opponents….Don’t be such a floyd nut-hugger and learn the fact from both sides

if loosing a teaspoon of blood makes you weak witch all doctors have said is impossible. you cant be a boxer. i have seen manny get bloody lips, noses and cuts that have lost a lot more then a tea spoon of blood during a fight and he has done ok. he had more then a tea spoon of blood taken from him 20 days b4 the clottey fight then prceaded to go into the ring and go round after round like a mad man. what happened to you needing two to three days off after blood is taken from you and he had a lot more then a tea spoon taken from him.

The most important blood test is when? After the fight and Manny already did a lot of that tests after this Clottey fight a blood test will be taken aswell and was Manny ever tested positive? mayweather is just looking for excuses to fight Manny.

it would make no sence for manny to fight mosley if mosley looses just like it wont make sence if he fight margarito. it will be the 5th figher in a row that he fights coming off a loss. no one in nolonger gona pay to watch manny fight people coming off loses. they want to see him fight the best. using floyds name to promot there fights is not gona work anymore.

williams…if you’re an american,i am soo glad that not all americans are like you….if i say to you – JUMP!WILL YOU BE ASKING ME – HOW HIGH???DO YOU REALLY,REALLY,REALLY THINK THAT ALL MAYWEATHER WANTS IS TO CLEAN UP BOXING???YOU MUST STILL BELIEVE IN SANTA CLAUS…pacquiao blamed the bloood extraction done on him wiht his first deafeat from morales…and that was WAAAAAAY before all this absurd accusations…he has always abided by commission regulations…MAYWEATHER WAS OUT TO MESS UP PACQUIAO’S HEAD….WELL,I THINK IT MESSED YOURS INSTEAD…anyways,i personally don’t think mosley will win…mayweather has perfect defense with his movement and shoulder rolls…mosley is a great champ,though….a great champ and a great person…mayweatehr-one of the greatest pure boxer in the history of the sport.

This is so predictable.

During negotiations Floyd Mayweather Jr let Pacquiao choose the gloves, ring size, and agreed to Pacquiao and Roach’s ridiculous demand which stipulated that for every pound over 147 Mayweather came in he would have to pay $10 million dollars. That demand was meant to break negotiations, but they got put in a tight spot when Mayweather conceded to it.

All that was left for Pacquiao and Roach to do to get out of that fight was to refuse the one major demand by Mayweather: Random PED testing up until the day of the fight.

To see that all talk of fear of needles wasn’t the issue all one has to do is remember that Pacquiao was okay with the testing up until a month before the fight. When Mayweather then countered with 14 days, Roach and Pacquiao killed the deal by adamantly refusing.

Now, Team Pacquiao is actually going as far as to say they prefer to fight Mosley after the Mayweather fight because Mosley won’t insist on Pacquiao’s providing proof of fairness because Mosley is desperate for cash and better legacy, as well as getting old for the sport.

Manny Pacquiao is a coward. In every other major sport athletes are required to test. Now because Mayweather has requested random Olympic-styled testing because today’s PEDs are more sophisticated and require more stringent methods to detect, Roach and Pacquiao have shown their true colors.

All the comments that say that both have equal legacies must have been made by non-boxing fans.

When a fighter beats men who haven’t been defeated before it counts a lot more towards a legacy than when another fighter wins against them now that they have already been bested.

Pacquiao takes no real risks to his legacy.

Pacquiao only fought DLH and Hatton once Floyd Mayweather beat them both, with Hatton being undefeated at that point.

Pacquiao only fought Cotto once Margarito gave him the beating of a lifetime .. which gave many the impression that Cotto was damaged goods … especially with the showing he gave against Clottey. Many feel as though Clottey won that fight. I am among them.

So basically, Pacquiao is a scavenger; a hyena who waits for the lions to do the damage before he himself can eat. There is no greatness or glory in fighting boxers who have just been beaten in their last big fight and are on the road to redemption.

A great example of this is when Glenn Johnson knocked out Roy Jones Jr. Roy hadn’t looked the same since fighting at heavyweight. In the fight he did win against Tarver, he looked old and tired. So when Tarver knocked Jones out, it was a shock but it was also telling about Jones as a fighter who just starved off 27lbs of muscle in 6 weeks to make that weight and the fight. So when Johnson knocked Jones out right after Tarver had, it was a big win for Johnson but it wasn’t a defining fight that cemented any legacy for Johnson. We had just seen Jones, a man who most could barely touch let alone hurt, knocked out and all the questions were already there.

The same applies to Pacquiao.

Pacquiao fought Morales after Morales had lost to Barrera and Zahir Raheem.

Pacquiao fought Barrera, a man who had fought virtually no one for years after losing to Morales in their first bout. Then Barrera received accolades and hype after beating the hyped up Naseem Hamed then lost to Pacquiao in their first meeting.

Then Pacquiao fought Marquez; a boxer that put so much fear in Pacquiao that he and Roach refused a much anticipated third fight. Draw in their first fight, Pacquiao took the second but not in the eyes of most fans.

Then Pacquiao fought DLH after DLH just got outboxed by a guy who had NEVER fought as a jr middleweight before. So how is it great when Pacquiao beat DLH when DLH had to dehydrate down to 147 .. a weight he hadn’t made in years?

Then Pacquiao beat Ricky Hatton, who had been knocked out by Mayweather 17 months prior in his last big fight. Hatton struggled against Paulie Malignaggi in his tune up for the Pacquiao fight. So it came as no surprise that Hatton got mauled by Pacquiao when he came in to trade.

Then Pacquiao fought Miguel Cotto; a fighter who had suffered a brutal, bloody beating at that hands of Antonio Margarito. Many thought and wrote that Cotto would be damaged goods after that fight. And then when Cotto got outboxed by Clottey and had to resort to wrestling and body slams, most fans and pundits noticed that his solid boxing skills were not evident. Cotto was questionable at that point. So when Pacquiao beat him, no one was shocked. No one’s jaw dropped.

Its ashamed that no matter the opponent, the press gives Manny Pacquiao a pass a the best in the business despite him only fighting sloppy seconds.

He’s about to fight Clottey, and if he wins what will that have done for his legacy? We know it will make him richer but what will he have achieved? I think the guy had unfinished business with Marquez but he chased the money and managed to spin his pursuit as “greatness”.

I give Pacquiao all the credit for his fights against Marquez because, in truth, Marquez was the best fighter in and around that division. Fighting Barrera and Morales meant nothing for his legacy as we’ve seen Barrera get destroyed by Junior Jones and Morales get completely outclassed by the supposedly lesser Raheem. Marquez was the key.

Since then Pacquiao has avoided the best in each division he’s been in. He’s avoided the Nate Campbell, Tim Bradley, Kermit Cintron, Luis Collazo, Antonio Margarito, Paul Williams, Shane Mosley, and definitely Floyd Mayweather.

Listen folks, I’m the first guy to tell people that no one fights everybody in this era of boxing, but Pacquiao has truly established himself as a scavenger who feeds off recently beaten fighters. He never fought anyone on top aside from Marquez(I don’t count Barrera or Morales because they had been hiding from Marquez literally for years).

Why the free pass? Why all the talk of greatness when not only does Pacquaio run from the top fighters, but he also refuses to prove that he can win without using PEDs? Its not like he would have been the only one taking the random blood tests. So why refuse unless he has something to hide?

Floyd Mayweather is taking the random tests. Shane Mosley is taking the random tests. Why is it so outrageous for Manny Pacquiao to then do so if he feels that his good name is being smeared by scandal and allegations?

The hyena may not have the last laugh if he ever agrees to the random tests up to the day of and gets in that ring with any real welterweight.

In an era where Fernando Vargas got caught using steroids, Shane Mosley got caught using BALCO “Clear” and Antonio Margarito just got caught with loaded fist-casts its naivety and a bit of stupidity to think that fighters aren’t looking for every edge they can possibly get.

If I may suggest, Pacman to agree on unlimited random blood testing in exchange for including xylocaine in the list of prohibited drugs to be tested. Plus of course, even split of the money. If Mayweather will demand a bigger share, then he really doesn’t want to fight Pacquiao.

Why is it that Roach and Arum have to convince Pac to submit to Floyd’s unrealistic demands, “if he wants to make the big money”. Why isn’t it up to Ellerbe and Schaeffer to convince Floyd to accept Pac’s more than reasonable compromise of unlimited urine and 3 blood tests including the most important one right after the fight, if he trulsy wants “to make the big money?” If Floyd does not drop this demand, he may as well be saying he does not want to fight Manny.

The real reason Floyd wants the unlimited blood testing right up until the day of the fight is because it is invasive. If it can be proven that non invasive testing will detect the same thing, Floyd will lose all of his zeal and interest in drug testing.

Woah this seems very premature I’m aurprised roach would even touch such a topic let alone arum knowing they would make more money from floyd, I hope they don’t over look the current objection for tomorrow night