Floyd gets the blame for Mayweather-Pacquiao stalemate in LA Times Poll
By Eric Thomas: In a poll at the Los Angeles Times, Floyd Mayweather Jr. takes a huge amount of the blame for negotiations stalemate with Manny Pacquiao with the boxing fans that have taken part in the poll.
Of the 12, 819 votes that have been submitted in the poll, 9,615, roughly 75% of the voters, think that Mayweather is to blame for the impasse. Whereas with Pacquiao, only 794 (6%) of the voters think he’s the reason for the negotiation troubles.
Two fighters are their management teams are currently trying to work out a solution to the stalemate involving random blood testing with mediator Daniel Weintein. Yesterday, they met with Weinstein for nine hours, but there was no word as to whether there was any progress or not in the negotiations.
Pacquiao is open to limited blood testing on three separate occasions, two of which would occur leading up to the fight. However, Mayweather wants the blood testing to be random and continuous all the way up to the March 13th bout.
Both fighters will look to take alternative bouts if the mediator fails to come up with a solution to their problems. Pacquiao may be fighting World Boxing Association light middleweight champion Yuri Foreman, while Mayweather could be fighting Matthew Hatton or some other still to be determined opponent.
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i cant imagine why floyd cant fight pacman without random blood testing yet he wants to fight 300 pounds rapper rick ross without blood testing and a 40 million dollars at stake. he is just scared of pacman for sure and just want to protect his unbeaten record…
Facts: (why Mayweathers are huge in USA)
1. Mayweather Sr. = Jailed 5yrs Drug trafficking
2. R. Mayweather = Arrested for beating a woman
3. Mayweather Jr. = Fraud boxer
Mayweathers are born criminals = its in the blood. LMFAO
Mayweather Jr., did shoot his foot at this one.
6.55 january 7 2010 a floyd mayweather youare a snake rat weasel
I guess Floyd was more concerned with his “Pretty” face than his “Money.”
Tomorrow Floyd will file for bankruptcy since he has no more money making fights, while Manny will continue to sell out venues around the world and continue making his millions. And for spending $$ Manny will pursue his defamation lawsuit against the Mayweather mafia!
Totally correct woodenwood – agree with you all the way. As brendle ingle put it, boxing is just about the only sport where you can legally kill another person. The stakes are too high – PED’s have no place and should be tested for by blood period. How would all these pac fans feel if it was their son climbing into the ring. Idiots.
not surprised,
it all about respect, before the fight ,and after. then if you want to be a animal,do it in the ring ,they we can enjoy the action, just like manny he morph in this beast in the ring,he not finish till he see you on the canvas, why ? because he has punch every fighter down ,some twice ,all except 2 fighter,a earlier and .oscar,both would have if they didnt quit,he has 48 ko and 5o wins then he turn .back into mr nice guy,seems floyd doing the opposite
I hate looking at the polls when Mayweather and Pac are involveds because it isnt fair. Pac has a whole country plus all the Pinoys in the US backing him. The US has so many other sports and Athletes to root for (Kobe,LeBron, D-Wade, Nascar, Baseball, Football ect)so our love isnt just focused on one person. They have nothing else to cheer for as far as sports go so of course the voting will always be lopsided. The Floyd hate is so bad and I dont fully understand why! Who cares what these athelets do in outside of their Arenas…as long as they take care of business when its time QUIT HATING!! Respect the skills and stop paying so much attention to their lives! We’re not the ones getting punched, tackled or whatever it may be! Pac demands 10mil per pound and May demands blood testing…SO WHAT!! HOW MANY FIGHTERS EVEN MAKE 10mil in 2 fights??????
why would i allow a random blood test in favor of floyd’s mafia. manny is smarter than that. it’s not about being a cheat it’s about who’s smarter and who’s the ducker. manny has better PPV anyway anywhere anytime against junior.
recently, floyd jr. almost had a brawl w/ rapper rick ross and guess who’s with him? 50 Cent. isn’t 50 Cent a drug dealer?
@Money Pack
Are you serious. Fighting with Hiv Aids even Herpes don’t give you an advantage. Using EPO gives that athlete an adv. See that is the problem with the United States school system. They don’t teach ppl how to think. They teach people to remember things and Money Pack you need to think. A better allegory would be having on baseball team use metal bats and the other wooden bats. It is and unfair adv.
Shout out to Aaron Pryor he used a metal bat in is water bottle. I understand this is probably over your heard cuz you probably dont even know who Aaron Pryor is and what he did.
floyd gets blame for this random blood test, it will be okey if he will tell to the people that starting from pacman fight, he will demand random blood test every time he fight to make sure there is no PEDS. actually, it is mess.
CONCLUSION: EPO & HGH does not promote additional strength and endurance on athletes (Below is the explanation) . That is why NEVADA-SAC only conduct urine test. Blood test to detect HGH and EPO is not necessary.
EPO effect is for the survival of red blood cells thus being used especially by patients with anemia caused by kidney disease. So it is justifiable to say that it has no positive effect on athletes because being a healthy person they don’t need the aid of EPO to make their red blood cells survive within their system.
HGH: From the studies conducted by Stanford University School of Medicine in 2007, though it shows that HGH can increased muscle size and decreased body fat THEY ALSO FOUND OUT IT DOES NOT PROMOTE ANY ADDITIONAL MUSCLE STRENGTH because it only let the body to store more water in the muscles. So the effect is clear HGH promotes water retention on muscles that is why there is a gain in muscle size.
(reference: wikipedia.com & various fitness book)
WELL SAID TELEDADDY! WELL SAID!
IF YOU WANT TO FIGHT YOU FIGHT,MANNY IS SMALLER GUY SO WHATS WORRYING CAMP MAYWEATHER,BUT YOU KNOW THE SENIORS MAYWEATHER,THEY PUT FLOYD IN A BAD WRAP COUSE THEY COULDNT HOLD THEIR MOUTH,WHO STARTED THIS STEROIDS ACCUSATION?…ANYHOW THEY DONT THINK BEFORE THEY SPEAK…IF I AM FLOYD I WOULDNT LISTEN TO HIS UNCLE AND DAD,HE SHOULD HAVE PUT THEM ON LEASH COUSE THEY R NOT HELPING FLOYD,THEY AE MAKING HIM LOOK WORST,HE NEEDED THIS MONEY TO SOLVE SOME FINACIAL PROBLEM AND IT WONT HELP HIM IF HE WOULD LISTEN TO THIS TWO MORONS,THEY CANT GET ALONG EVEN BEFORE ARENT THEY?
It is one of those things that sounded good at the beginning but if you analyze it, it is not. All in the interest of fair play is the testing, etc. etc. Now the polls are leaning to Pacquiao for public support. The whole Mayweather camp and ODLH and Shaefer jumped think of it as a good strategy. One thing they did not think of is the intent of the accuser, this case Mayweather. this is parallel to the neo-conservatives that want to invade Iraq no matter what. We all know what happened to that one. The American congress and the American people really thought that it was the right thing to do. The similarities between these two is the INTENT of the accuser. The hidden agenda of the accuser, the integrity of the accuser. Right there and then, you’re out, not even to first base.
Phoocquiao, BoxCanada , Sheriff Ray and Floored Mayweather are keeping it real . Well done Blokes!
i like your comment teledaddy! you’re right!!!
Floyd has height, reach and weight advantage( ala marquez fight) not to mention he’s fighting in his home town. Why should pacquiao give him ring, glove and an unprecedented drug test? Pacquiao has a belt and is P4Pking he calls the shots not no belt having mayweather.
what happened to ferdinandaquino’s comment?? for some reason, it was strangely removed…what he said was right though, that most people blame pbf… only because alot filipino’s who are taking the poll are from L.A…go figure..
Allow me to put a different spin to all this tiring back and forth bantering…
First I’ll start with a premise, let’s say Pac was found clean of any performance enhancing drugs. Ok Ok.. Please save your arguments for later. Here’s my hypothetical post fight preview.
Let say Pacquiao lost the match, .. doesn’t matter how he lost.. the whole world will witness right after the bout, just how gracious Pac will be in defeat and he will exhibit class as a boxer, which only adds to the rationale why he will be revered as one of the greatest fighter of our time. True fans of Pac and the science of boxing know in the back of their minds Pac may “possibly” lose the match to Floyd. And we can readily accept that. No doubt about it.
What hasn’t been pointed out is how Floyd (and family) will react if he lost the match to Pac.. doesn’t matter how he lost.. This is where everyone will see the vast culture difference and how far apart the values system are between the 2 best boxers, it’ll be virtually night and day.
If Pac lost and he has lost 3 already, his world will go on maybe on to politics and whatever noble endeavour he chooses.
If Floyd lost, his perfect world of zero losses, his most valued perception of invincibility will be shattered and in tatters. Where will he turn? Well maybe he can reaudition again for another “Dancing with the Stars” like contest. But he lost the previous one already didn’t he? oh well. Lets just hope his uncle or father controls their emotion or temper, and does not climb into the ring, choke Pac cause thats just too uncivilized.
Going back to my earlier premise, I do hope Pac will be found clean and settle this matter once and for all. Pac will follow whatever authorizing/governing body will ask him to do this fight, provided they didnt lose the blood samples again right?
Now Attack!
Is Mayweather on scareroids. He must be because when accussing pacquiao of steroids it shows how afraid you are. You are willing to take the blood test because ur family is already use to needles.(Drug Addicts) Why didnt you ask any of your other opponents to be tested? You said your self that pacquiao would be easier than marquez. You said pacquiao lost to marquez 2wice and got punished by morales. Now your tune changed and you sound like a coward. The sad part is that i use to be a mayweather fan but when i think about it. I was a prettyboy floyd fan not this money mayweather character. Floyd your a welterweight with no belt but u think you can call the shots. Your lucky the fight is 50/50 because you don’t deserve it. Your cash cow days are over if you don’t fight pacquiao because i wouldn’t waste my money on you if you were fighting any1 else.( Your fights are boring)………..PS why couldn’t you finish marquez. You were dominating him but just like a fighter on scareroids you were afraid to engage.PLEASE RETIRE!!!!!!! Your ruining boxing.
floyd mayweather is a rat snake weasel
Floyd is a RAT.
He is trying to destroy professional boxing.
He is trying to change the way the Nevada Commission conducts their business.
Now, he will make it harder for his fellow boxers to succeed in boxing.
Just because he is scared of Manny Pacquiao….
by the way…he is also scared of Margarito, Mosley, Cotto..etc.
How sad, the whole boxing community and the MMA will expel Floyd from the boxing world….the end is near for him.
On and ESPN poll 70% feel Pacman will beat Floyd. Do this people know something I don’t. I feel it should be the other way around
People that know nothing about boxing voted in this poll,the man agreed to the things Manny wanted,and he ask for one thing and its a problem.Is he suppose to give in to this too,let’s be reasonable people,Manny can’t have everything his way.
Dana White is afraid….
Dana fears boxing would implement random blood tests because then Las Vegas Commission would have no choice but to applies the same rules for the UFC AKA “Juiced MMA”.
Don’t believe me as ask Brock Lesner. Who walk out of and ESPN interview and the interviewer mentioned the word steroids.
time3.15 wednesday january 6 2010 floyd mayweather you are a fraud sham boxing dont need you
This result is expected,there are only a few boxing fans out there that likes this Floyd Mayweather. PPV sales reached past the 2 million mark on the Dela Hoya-Mayweather matched,it was difinitely not because majority of fans we’re rooting for Floyd,but they wanted Dela Hoya to beat or knockout Floyd. Unfortunately that didn’t happen because of Floyd’s great defensive ability. Now fans are hoping the Pacman can beat or knockout Floyd,but now we have this unusual Olympic random blood testing demands,and the Mega Fight might not happen after all. Question is,why all of a sudden? Floyd didn’t demand this type of testing back when he fought Dela Hoya and Hatton and the others.Out of nowhere,why now? I thought he mentioned in t.v. a few times that Pacquio is a smaller boxer and he can beat him easily,nothing unusual,he will still be the winner.Pacquio agreed of the blood testing,but as long as one of the test is not too close to the fight night. Which is a possibility when it is random. Whats the problem of the testing right away after the bout? Which the Pacman agreed also,isn’t that enough to make this March 13 fight concrete? The Mayweather camp are well aware of what happened to the Pacman the first time he fought Morales and lost.It’s understandable that they are looking for some weakness from Pacquio for their advantage,thats tactic after all. However, why go overboard from the current rules that has been established for so many years? Something is wrong here!
“If mayweather does it, why cant Manny?” How do you know mayweather won’t. Manny can say yes tomorrow and then what happens. Mayweather tries to lose weight to 147lb the day of the fight and still has 1 lb to go, they take a blood test, What does the doctor say if PBF says he feels dizzy. Yep The doctor will say “Drink lot’s of fluids”. Try making weight now. That is why the tests should be done at least a week or two before the fight and right after. I think Manny can accept this but only if he keeps the lawsuit after mediation. I don’t think he’s going to let PBF off that easy.
Floyd need to learn about fair play in boxing.
Is making Hatton go up to 147, a weight he admitted he had no business in, done in the interest of fairness?
Was requesting the Pac fight be at 154 with 10oz gloves against a smaller man with shorter arms who has never fought at higher than 145 suppose to be an example of sportsmanship?
Was coming in 2lbs overweight against Marquez Floyd’s shining example of fair play in boxing?
No, none of these examples are. The public doesn’t need to educate themselves on this, because the public knows a B.Ser when they see one. And guess what? It aint Manny.
I suggest many of the Fans educate themselves too and realize that this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with “fair play”.
BTW, since when did boxing turn into baseball and professional biking?
Hell anyone who actually knows a damn about boxing knows that PED’s don’t help boxers. Never has, and until a new drug is invented (which it will be) it never will.
time 3.o5 pm wednesday jasnuary 6 2010 siya im also not a lfoyd mayfraudweather fan either
“What’s unknown is where the voters come from.” You are making excuses now. Lame.
BUT if you look at other polls, they are pretty much close to the same results. LOL!
Ive heard from people have followed boxing for years, and they say all steroid allogations start off this way, and that they would not be suprised if this turned out to be true. EPO has been mentioned which is what Mosely was taking, undetected for years, and they STILL dont test for it now!
Bodybuilders have even commented on the lean mass Manny put in in such a short amount of time saying it had to be aided by a supplement.
Urine tests are poor, they only show the presence of a few supplements, the blood tests show HGH and EPO. The testing for these supplements is expensive, and for such a big bout it is neccessary. If mayweather does it, why cant Manny?
All major athletes do it, Phelps, Lance Armstrong etc the list is endless.
Like many have said, his transition from barely beating Marquez (still many think he lost), to going up in weight by a lot, and beating people EASILY who are much bigger like Oscar, Cotto and Hatton is suspicious. Although this might be seen as a testament to him as a brilliant boxer (which he is) I think with the rest of the evidence, lean mass gain and no loss of speed with his poor excuses and the huge boxing drug test loop hole (of only testing urine, leaving the blood dwelling supplements undetected) it points to some foul play.
Roach knows the system like the back of his hand, and knew what drugs would be tested for and what wouldnt.
There is no reason that Manny could say to put such a major bout in jeopardy, the chance to shut Mayweather up just because he doesnt want a teaspoon of blood taken from him. Afraid of needles? he has tattoos all over, and hasnt refused any previous blood tests.
He says he doesnt know what a steroid is? that , if anything, means that he could well be having the injections from a member of his team, just not knowing what a steroid is means he doesnt know hes guilty.
The tests are neccessary, he has no reason to refuse if mayweather is also taking them and all this points to guilt.
Mayweather is a chicken s**t. Pacquiao will drop him in 5 rounds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah finaly time 2.40pm january6 2010