Did Pacquiao put Roach in his Place?
September 6th, 2009
By Eric Thomas: Recently, Manny Pacquiao and his trainer Freddie Roach went head to head over where the training should take place for Pacquiao’s next bout against Miguel Cotto. Roach wanted the training to take place in Mexico, while Pacquiao preferred the same confines of the Philippines.
In the end, Pacquiao got his way and the fight will be taking place in Baguio, in the Philippines. Its unclear how Roach will take this, because he’s seems to have enjoyed his newfound popularity that he’s found because largely due to Pacquiao’s success in the ring.
Roach has seemed like the boss in their interactions with each other, at least in their training camps. However, with Pacquiao basically telling Roach where the training will be taking place, it looks as if Pacquiao is showing who the real boss is in this relationship. Roach is, in essence, an employee of Pacquiao and can be replaced at any time if Pacquiao sees fit.
Beyond the location of where the training camp was to take place, Roach and Pacquiao disagreed about when the training should begin. Roach wanted the training to start already, but Pacquiao was having none of it, saying that eight weeks was enough.
With Pacquiao throwing his weight around more and more, will this affect Roach and their upcoming training? Is their relationship starting to show cracks? It’s hard to tell at this point. It will be interesting to see how well the training camp goes because this isn’t a good start. Roach has a lot of pride, and is highly sought after by boxing’s best fighters. If things don’t work out with Pacquiao, Roach will have a soft landing regardless. The way I see it, Roach should swallow his pride and continue to ride the Pacquiao gravy train until the bitter end. Roach should stay until Pacquiao either dismisses him, retires or begins to get beaten up on a regular occasion.
Roach’s main focus should be on working with Pacquiao and trying to make him a better fighter. Let all the other stuff, such as training locations and future opponents be decided by Pacquiao and his paid advisers.
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Pacquiao is the heart of his own team. He knows his own body and can take care of business. It is Roach who is trying to take attention to himself. He is just the coach. It is Pacquiao who goes to the ring to fight.
pacquiao will still KO cotto and mayweather.
who the hell are you guys to tell manny what he needs to do with his life. that is his life, that is his money and not yours. so whatever decision he makes is his. it is none of your business. you don’t pay for his bills or anything. just leave the guy alone. if he wants to train in the philippines it his choice not yours. its his body the takes the punishment for your entertainment, so give him some respect. if he looses the fight then he looses it.
Manny can always have his secret encounter with Ara Mina in Baguio.
human nature is what’s happening. live and let live. more popularity, more money, more power. too much on his head. movies, cd’s, commercials, and maybe illusions of marian. hahaha. it just depends on how good he trains and how much focus he has. he might just surprise us again.
Manny’s bigger then boxing right now. movie star, singer, business mogul and politician. But boxing is what made him. And Roach was there from the beginning of his ascent. Without Paquaiao winning in boxing, it will put the other endeavors in question. Hope he knows what’s he’s doing. Makes the whole Cotto/ Pacquiao match more interesting and keeps Pacman in the headlines.
Remember what happened to TYSON when he no longer listened to his trainer!
Pare mahiya naman kayo sa sinasabi nyo kababayan natin si pacman huwag kayo magsalita ng ganyan sa website. Hindi niyo alam ang dahilan sa bagiuo segurado safety siya kay sa Mixico.at saka hindi natin alam ang iba pang dahilan. Salamat.
POOR PACQUIAO HES GOIN TO BE SOO LOST IN NOV 14…
to rvg i think there’s no -0 in mathematics go ahead and find out shame on you!
Roach is just protecting his own interests, he doesn’t want to stay in the Phlippines because he can’t go back to LA anytime he wants to look after the other fighters he trains..
Manny simply feels superconfident with his condition, he is a correct and a kind person and Roach should not worryng about that.
I don’t think this cause worth any other word.
he may have reminded roach who’s the boss but roach turned pacman in to the fighter he is today. Don’t kid yourselves, roach is the best trainer in the world and an integral part of pacmans success thus far. I don’t think manny is in the position to dismiss him LOL
The trainer NEEDS to be the boss. The administrative-types in Pac’s camp don’t understand what Freddie knows; the value of focus, solitude, environment. Those who feel Pac “put Freddie in his place” and think he should ride out the “gravy train” speak from an emotional, non-rational standpoint.
This isn’t about power or ego. It’s about hard training with zero distraction – and the trainer has to be the captain.
Baguio City, hindi namin pinapansin ang nga celebrity, kung nakita ka namin sa Sesion Road or anywhere sa Baguio, thats it, we dont follow you or asking for autograph, kung meron man ang ganun sa Baguio, hindi sila taga baguio, kung baga immigrant lang sila doon,, NAAWATAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Baguio City is where I was born… its a nice and peaceful place. So, its best for Pac team to do their training camp there! One more thing Mr. Coach Roach, dakami nga tattao ti Baguio ket han kami nga attracted kenni Pacquiao wenno any celebrity… Im making sure to you that no one will ever visit Pacman in his training sesions…..
father and son relationship will be tested this time…let’s see…
let’s give the credit to pacquiao, anyway, he is the one being beaten, boxed, bruised and battered in the ring, not the fans, coach and management team. Just leave it up to him, and if you’re not convinced with his proposed training regimen, dont make it an issue out of him because you are not required or obliged to watch his fight and support him.
Pacquiao trash Roach as just a trainer. Roach is not an ordinary trainer. Roach cares for this “walang hiya” but disrespected in return. Can’t even call to say condolence. This a mark of b.s. guy pretending to be helping and caring for Pilipinos in California and everywhere. You become famous because of the support of most Pilipinos around the world thinking that you are different kind of bred that people likes. But you showed who you really are. Talking to press that you support Chavit Singson who mauled the wife is at best demeaning. Don’t show your face here in California telling people that the fayt is your country. Get lost dude, your nothing.
Pacquiao chooses to be his truist color. I don’t trust this guy anymore. Want to be a politician? I hope not. Need to conquer some more fame and fortune? Pilipinos abroad all around the world will show less support for him no matter what, now. Less educated s.o.b. portrays himself as the big boss “filipino style” just because he has more money than most. Pacquiao, remember this, this is the beginning of your downfall A** hole.
so now don’t be hugging the phrase you’ve been saying “ang laban na to ay para sa iyo”" you can kiss your “A” pretending your for your country your full of “S”
He needs to be in place now that he thinks he’s untouchable, You’re no actor nor commercial endorser. if you will be rated in scale of 1-10 your acting ability is -000000000. sorry to say but thats the truth..
Pacman KO in 6 round bet that,
roach and pacquiao are only trying to play the reverse physcology game with cotto, his team and fans….i wouldn’t fall for anything they say because all they’re trying to do is distract cotto by making up these fabrications…nice try though!
pacman is doing what a lot of fighters have done.
when they reach a certain hight they get big heated and forget who gote them there.
I dont know what the big deal is but although Manny chosed Bagiuo as the training site, that doesn’t mean that his telling Roach he is the boss. Think about what is Manny’s concern as far as training in Mexico? The country is in turmoil with kidnappings and killings. I would be scared too if i was Manny. Manny and Freddie will never be broken up by this media hype, people are making a big deal out of nothing.
most of you are right. maybe Manny is forgetting that he is famous because of boxing. not in acting or even his political interest. But before we speak let us just wait and see what happens. if Manny says that it will be in Baguio then let it be. We will just judge him on his training. If he decides to train there with the same interest and hard work that he made from his past fights or even harder then, there won’t be any doubt about it. But if he tries to skip training due to his acting or stupid commercials, I am going to put my bets on Cotto even though i am a Pure Blooded Filipino.
i’m truly ashame on what other filipinos have to say against their countrymen instead of supporting them. i think they are just jealous or envy the odds are not turning into them.they just jealous to the invincible tandem of pacman and coach roach and try to demolish even their friendship. why not minding your own life so you also can achieve success. u have no right to criticize others life coz ur not the one whose feeding them…
I’m sorry to say this, Manny….
It is your exploits in boxing that made me a fan of yours. Be true to what has taken you to the top. That is indeed boxing.
Politics and acting aside, I would doubt it, if ever I will put an ounce of interest about you. Boxing made you a superstar. So please for the meantime, concentrate on boxing.
…Pacquaio will learn his lesson sooner than later. Roach knows best and KONZ know nothing about training Pacquiao.
There may have been some issues reguarding starting date for training and destination for trainig camp but isnt that always the case .From what ive seen these guys have good working relationship.
Nov 14, I mean.
Pac’s defeat is already written.
It’s just a ploy, this little rift between Roach and Pac, so there’s an excuse when Cotto tears Manny another arze come Nov 12.
This article makes an interesting point.
I read an item somewhere in which Roach reportedly said that he never forgets that its the fighters who are the stars.
Hmmmmm……..
Yours in sport, Reptile.
There´s no doubt that Freddie Roach influenced and learned Pacquiao a lot. But we must also remember that Pacquiao is a good student and listens for what he has been told. If Pacquiao is stubborn or stupid enough, no matter how much teaching Freddie is giving him, it will just be useless. The have been friends for almost 10 years and different opinions may create an inevitable arguments, but that is natural even for marriage.
Roach was much like a father figure to Manny…he to me knows and cares for him alone…..not just for the money he is bringing to the table alone…he should know that…only time can tell if he is right or wrong…Nov.14.
You pay your coach to tell you what to do. If you dont listen to your coach then you are throwing your money away. Roach knows what Pacquiao needs to do to beat Cotto. If Roach beleives that Pacquiao needs more than 8 weeks to prepare then Pacquiao should listen to him.
Pacman is going to learn a lesson on this fight that he shouldn’t have to learn the hard way if he listen to Roach, Let’s not forget that Manny’s boxing skills improved since Roach took over, other wise he’ll still be fighting no ones
Please, don´t make this as a dramatic event. The reasons why Pacquiao dismisses Mexico as training camp, because it´s truly a dangerous place! Kidnapping of rich people are just daily activity in that area. The first victim of Swine Flu who is living in Texas, was actually infected from Mexico. Pacquiao´s motivation is just being carefull. Freddie Roach chooses Mexico because it´s much closer from Las Vegas and to his Wild Card gym in Los Angeles. When Freddie heard that Pacquiao wants to train in the Philippines, he said that he prefers Baguio than Cebu city. Freddie R. was actually the one who put that idea to Pacquiao´s mind in the first place. But as usual journalists in general wants to manipulate this issue. Baguio is the summer capital of the Philippines, has good modern facilities to offer, cool climate ranging from 11oC to 26oC as it´s warmest. A city on the top of the mountain with an altitude of 1500 meters. Baguio was established by americans in 1900.
Pacman needs to realize that he is a boxer and not a movie star. I watched and will watch his fights but will never watch whatever movies he make.
pacquiao lumalaki na ang ulo!!! walang sikat na pacquiao kung wala si trainer coach fredie..sanay hindi ito ang simula nang wakas sa career mo sa ring pacman..
Manny Pacquiao reminded Freddie Roach who is the boss.