Pacquiao Wants Cotto’s WBO Title to Be On the Line For the Fight
July 30th, 2009
By Manuel Perez: Manny Pacquiao is hoping that Miguel Cotto’s WBO welterweight title will be on the line for their November 14th bout at the MGM Grand, in Las Vegas, Nevada. For Pacquiao and his legion of loyal boxing fans, the title is important because it will somehow give Pacquiao more validity as a great fighter because it will – if Pacquiao wins – be his 7th world title victory. Cotto, however, doesn’t want to have to pay the sanctioning fees to, which is what he’d have to do if his title was going to be on the line.
It seems logical that he wouldn’t want to have to put his title on the line if he’s being forced to strip off weight that’s below the normal welterweight limit. The World Boxing Organization president Franciso Valcarcel is fine with the title being on the line for the 145 pound catch weight.
However, that doesn’t solve the problem of the sanction fees. Cotto doesn’t want to fork over that kind of money, whereas Pacquiao has no problems with paying it. His, though, will be a reduced amount of only $150,000. Pacquiao is the one that wants the title. Hence he sees no problems with paying the sanction fees for it to be on the line.
But, unless Cotto or his promoter Bob Arum springs for the bigger sum, Pacquiao will have to be satisfied with just fighting Cotto without the title. It’s hard to say what the hang up is about the title being on the line, because you really can’t call it a title fight if the bout is being held at a lesser weight.
The WBO president seems to be taking an odd look at this. If Pacquiao wants to fight for the title, then he should agree to take the fight at 147 and not push for a lower weight and still want the title on the line. That’s a bit unfair and I can’t blame Cotto one bit for not wanting to pay the sanctioning fees. Let Pacquiao come up to the normal weight, and then they can talk about sanctioning fees.
Hopefully, Arum doesn’t try to push Cotto into making this a title fight. It seems unfair to the Puerto Rican star to have his title on the line if it’s not going to be at the full weight. It just seems wrong. The belt wouldn’t change anything whether Pacquiao won the title or not.
It isn’t as if the public really cares whether Pacquiao has won one title or ten. Their main focus is that he’s fought good opponents and not the weaker, weight drained variety. This is why Pacquiao blew it in the first place when negotiating for the fight.
He should have agreed to fight Cotto at the full 147 welterweight limit if he wanted the title to be on the line. You can’t make a champion agree to come in at a lower weight, a move that benefits Pacquiao, in an effort to fight for their title. That’s really a joke as far as I’m concerned and makes it seem as if Cotto is being set up to fail.
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Cotto should just walk from this fight. He don’t need it! He’s got a $5 belt and an uncle itching for a fight. Cotto has a chance in beating his uncle whereas Pacman will retire the shark from Westside Story, given the opportunity…
This is how the fight will be annouced on November 14th 2009.
“LET’S GET READY TO RUMBBLLEEE!!!
In the left corner, wearing blue, red & white trunks, weighting in a 145 pounds because Pacquiao only fights in catchweights & is afraid of fighting him at his legit 147 pounds welterweight limit, the WBO welterweight champion of the WORLD… from Caguas, Puerto Ricccoo… Miguel Angel COOTTTOOO!!!!”
what is your opinion on cotto vs clottey fight 146lbs.? you let a natural welterweight clottey fight cotto under welterweight limit. and now your telling everyone the small guy (PACQUIAO) should fight cotto at the welterwieght limit (147lbs.) THIS IS BANANASSSSZZZZ!!!!!
I say this again, 145lbs is not a division but its IN THE WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION! If I were WBO don’t force cotto to fight, accept the title and pacquiao fight shane mosley, this fight is much better. And perez! stop acting like a child, opponents of manny should be blame if they drain in weights not Manny and if cotto fight Manny in 145lbs there is no difference! have you experience losing 2lbs? is there any difference in 147? Stop drain weight issue just satisfy your self that the later is not good as you think.
who cares what the welterweight boundaries are! Cotto is being restricted from the weight he would prefer to fight at. It still just adds unneccessary pressure to him. If this is the case cotto should be allowed to come in at any weight within the welter limit if its for a WELTER wbo belt. I agree with the article
What the hell are you talking about? What unfair? P4P throne is also in the line. Anyway, STOP this nonsense fight between Pac-Cotto, better to push the Pac-Mos fight ‘coz Pacman will not merit on this since Cotto is a damaged Good.
hey…145 catch weight limit is still they same as 147 natural weight of welterweight division there is no difference about that..the last fight of Cotto he weight 146 and now he is easy to get that 145 catch weight limit only one pound…so Cotto must force to defend that title.
if cotto will not stake the belt at 145 and keep insisting on 147, pacquiao will not sign the contract. then cotto losses the chance of fighting the P4P king and misses his biggest payday ever. cotto will be a big LOOSER if this happen.
everything would be fine even if the fight is a non-title fight..cotto would’nt want it, and pacman should not give him also a big percentage of the revenue.. i mean just 15-20% only..cotto dont risk the belt, so pacman should not risk to give cotto what he is getting from this fight..15% he deserves that..
“This is Cotto’s big break for a lucrative fight, but i think pacquiao would be wiser to just kOed Cotto by not fighting him.”
Cotto is the one who needs this fight, his stocks are falling whilst pacquiao is on a rise but had been going on a standstill for sometime now.
Pacquaio should just call quits in this fight.
Cotto needs to know where he is in his career. Let him fight Mosley or Paul Williams for less money. He doesnt need to be rewarded a mega payday. He’s worth a large amount but he still not on pacquiao’s turf. This is Cotto’s big break, but i think pacquiao would be wiser to just kOed Cotto by not fighting him.
Pacquiao doesnt need to fight cotto, heck, he doesnt even need to fight at welterweight.
it would be wise for pacquiao to terminate their match, it doesnt make sense for him. he is in so much disadvantage. just that there are lots of people who thinks they know so much more than everybody else. but facts are facts. cotto is naturally bigger, he’s a natural welterweight. but in case this push thru, i wouldnt bet against pacquiao because you dont mess with a streak. im just not really sure if he can pull it off if this would go on. i just know that he believes he can win against cotto and it shows he got balls but whether he wins or not is totally up in the air.
When Oscar fought for the Middle weight title a a catch weight there were no complaints…Now that Pacquiao is doing the same thing at Welerweight we hear a lot of complaints. I see this as a case of double standards with racist innuendos. There are people out there who do not want a non mexican american to break their Golden Boys record.
maybe pacman should ask cotto to come in at 147 fight nite, that’s the welterweight limit and not a blown up 160 which is a middleweight. because come fight nite, we will actually see a welterweight fighting a middleweight, they should be fighting for a middleweight title.
Cotto was very clear from the begining that if he had to go in at 145 it was not going to be a title fight. Now if Manny want to fight for the welter weight fight then he need to let Cotto weight- in 147 is just simple and logical.
F**k this writer and cotto and arum as well. this fight is stressing us out. Its full of drama 1st the catchweight, then the title whats next the gloves. the oz and kind of gloves that are going to be used.. if it turns out to be the worst fight mosley instead…
The WBO president agrees the cotto vs. pacquiao at 145lbs. to be a title fight because this is not the 1st time the WBO title was fought in a catchweight..
Remember Oscar de la hoya and Bernard Hopkins fought for the WBO middleweight championship at 158lbs instead of 160lbs. so its 2 lbs less like the pacquiao vs. cotto fight.. So why not make it a title fight its just fair and legal even though cotto won it at 147 he’s the one that suggested that their fight with pacquiao to in 145. paacquiao want it at 143 but obviously thats too much so he agreed on what cotto want.. Cotto can make that weight its easy for him.. he weigh in at 146 in his fight with clottey. can 1 lb hurt your strength.. c mon..
remember that manny.s title P4P is on the line too. is not fair that cotto’s title is not on the line while pacman is risking too much. cotto’s last figth with clottey weighin 146 seems like a pound a big deal for him uhh! manny wants 143 miguel said 145 now that manny’s camp agree to 145 is chicken out cmmon! you should be thankful that manny is giving you a chance to make a big bucks dude! and to this writter that dont know about boxing, get your facts together man do your f***ing homework welter weigh is start to 140.1 lbs. to 147 lbs. so whats wrong with 145 if they both agree still in welter limit remember that Dela hoya and Hopkins fougt at catchweight of 158 lbs. for middle weigh title also at WBO so why they cannot do the same thing with this to warriors.
Hey, don’t forget that Pacquiao started boxing at 107 lbs. Cotto started at 135 lbs. That’s 28 lb difference. Pacman is no Superman and Cotto is no pushover that’s why Pacman is askin for Cotto to meet him halfway.
In Cotto’s last fight, he weighed in at 146 lbs against Joshua Clottey. Against Ricky Hatton, Pacquiao weighed only 138 lbs. So Pacquiao is jumping 7 lbs up to get to 145 lbs while Cotto needs to down by 1 lb only.
I really don’t get it. Nobody complained when dela Hoya fought Hopkins at a catchweight of 155 lbs for the WBC,WBA,WBO and IBF middle weight titles. Hopkins started boxing at 177 lbs. The fight before that, he weighed 159 lbs. So he went down 3 lbs for the dela Hoya fight. So it is fair for Pacquiao to ask Cotto to go down to 145 lbs.
You said: “The sanctioning fees would be in the neighborhood of $300,000, so it’s hard to blame Cotto for not wanting to dish out that kind of money for this fight.”
You’re wrong. Sanctioning fee is $150,000 from Cotto, $150,000 from Pacquiao plus $40,000 from promoter.
You said: “It seems logical that he wouldn’t want to have to put his title . . .”
It is not logical. WBO welterweight limit is 147 lbs. (Cotto’s), while 140 lbs. is the limit of WBO Jr. Welterweight (Pacquiao’s). Cotto can weigh less than 147 lbs and still be in Welterweight; theoretically, even as low as 141 lbs, but of course no stupid welterweight boxer will do that. A CATCH WEIGHT of 145 lbs is an AGREED-TO WEIGHT, which is still inside the Welterweight. If he AGREED-TO 145 lbs., why doesn’t he agree to put his belt on the line? Assuming both of them weigh close to 145 lbs on weigh-in day, their weights would practically be the same. At fight night, it would be Cotto who should weigh more than Pacquiao because of his bigger frame.
You said: “It seems logical that he wouldn’t want to have to put his title on the line if he’s being forced to strip off weight that’s below the normal welterweight limit.”
You moron. You are wrong again. The “normal” welterweight is from above 140 lbs up to 147 lbs. Of course no stupid boxer, or moronic like you, will try to weigh in closer to 141 lbs than closer to 147 lbs. There is no normal (or abnormal) welterweight limit. 147 lbs is the Welterweight limit, period. 145 lbs is an AGREED-TO (the catch weight ) weight. Manuel Perez, you are ignorant of boxing.
You said: “But, unless Cotto or his promoter Bob Arum springs for the bigger sum, . .”
Aha!. Now, you hit the real reason. Cotto wants more. Again, that was already, supposed to be AGREED-TO. Cotto knows that it is THE fight with Pacquiao (and NOT the other way around) that will give him a great bundle of money, he should have at least show a respect to the boxing world and give a gesture of fairness. Nobody knows who will win on Nov. 14, not even Cotto or Pacquiao. Manuel Perez, you are unfair to say the least.
You said: “Hopefully, Arum doesn’t try to push Cotto into making this a title fight. It seems unfair to the Puerto Rican star to have his title on the line if it’s not going to be at the full weight.”
You’re wrong again. It would be unfair to the boxing world if Cotto would not put his title on the line. 145 LBS IS WITHIN WELTERWEIGHT. PACQUIAO IS GOING UP TO 145 LBS. THEIR AGREED-TO WEIGHT IS 145 LBS!. Again, AGREED-TO weight.
You said: “It isn’t as if the public really cares whether Pacquiao has won one title or ten. Their main focus is that he’s fought good opponents and not the weaker, weight drained variety.”
Now, you’ve shown your true colour! You are afraid to name Oscar Dela Hoya !. Rationalizing the loss of ODLH and labeling him as weak and weight-drained. You still cannot accept that Pacquiao retired ODLH, do you?
If Cotto thinks that he is such an aggrieved person, and is unfairly treated by WBO, Arum, etc, he should not sign the fight with Pacquiao. He will then have about 3 and half months to sign for any fight he wants, with the belt on line, and at the 147 lbs limit. And at any amount he wants.
if cotto’s team wanted to 147 weight limit then i suggest that the weigh-in happen two hours before fight night on november 14. it sounds better.
if no title of pacquiao-cotto fight then the fight must be at 143. forget 145 or 147 if there’s no welterweighttitle.
this is how i see it, what if they just fight at 147lbs. but the weigh in should be on the same day of the fight… 6 hours b4 the fight. i think thats fair enough.
I GUESS THE TITLE BELT MATTERS ALOT FOR BOTH FIGHTERS,FOR THEY’LL BOTH GET THE BENIFIT OF IT,MORE PEOPLE WILL GET EXCITED AND WILL WATCH THEM.AND THEY WILL BOTH GET A HUGE PAYDAY,COMPARE TO A NON TITLE BOUT..
WHO WANTS TO WATCH A NONTITLE FIGHT EVENT???..
HOLD ON GUYS…I just want to ask you all
this writer, mr perez is very bias. cotto fought clotty at welterweight and his weight was 146lbs. a mere pound below the agreed weight but still at welterweight. manny never weigh above 142lbs in his fights thus weighing him 148lbs during fights while cotto weigh more than 150lbs after he rehydrate. no questions about the title because it is very clear that fighting more that 140lbs up to the limit of 147lbs is in the welterweigth division, hence this should be a title fight.
Manny should just chase MC’s weight cuz he’s been doing that most of his career. Cotto knows he’ll lose at 145, but the difference is the money he’ll make…he wants a win-win situation (money+belt) when he loses. lol! I’m Filipino, so obviously a Pacman fan, but I think they should just fight straight up! Pacman will already have a hrad time at 145, let alone 147. that’s just too big! Cotto will be 160 in the ring! Scary…
i guess theres no choice for pacquiao but to fight cotto at 147…
i hope they change the rules that the fighter must maintain 147 until the fight is over…
because in my point of view cotto can put up weight until 160..
and still, thats not a welterweight division either…
the mechanics of rules and regulations of boxing is quiet confusing….
they should have listed a guides/limitations for this weight issues…
still, cotto have a point that he got that title at 147 so he only wants to put that title on the line if its at 147…
“LEGENDS ARE NOT BORN, THEY WERE MADE!”
Enough is enough! Team Pacquiao, according to unconfirmed report in the Phils, is thinking of breaking current contract with Top Rank due to several reasons. One reason is undisclosed PPV sales around the world except USA for Dela Hoya and Hatton’s fights. What MP promotions need to do is have the cable/satellite providers all over the world to contact team Pacquiao re. his PPV fights to maximize his earnings potential (Good News).
Cotto’s $$$ is out the door. Mosely or Mayweather – please step in, we can talk.
Ill go for that 1 hr before the fight they have the weigh-in. Both fighters can weigh-in 147lb to 141lb. So Cotto can weight 147lbs and Pac 141lbs. THAT WOULD BE A TRUE WELTERWEIGHT BOUT. WHO’S THE IDIOT THAT MADE THE WEIGH IN 24HRS BEFORE THE FIGHT?
If I’m Pacquiao, I will agree to fight at maximum limit of 147 but the weigh in should be made on the day of the fight. I guess Cotto will agree to this since he is a natural welter…
I read that during Henry Armstrongs time the weigh-ins were during fight night. I believe if Cotto would agree (I’m sure Pacquiao will be more than willing) he could even weigh 150lbs but just before the fight.
How about old fashion real men boxing like the old days.
I think the author is eying that Cotto will be lost to Pacquiao that’s why he’s now making excuses and trying to convince us that Cotto at catchweight of 145 lbs will be weaker and will benifit Pacquiao. Cotto is a natural welter that can rehydrate on fight night up to 160 lbs, while Pacquiao is a natural smaller boxer than Cotto who can rehydrate to a maximum weight of 148 lbs on fight night based on his previous fights. Isn’t it a boxer’s strategy to fight below their natural weight so that they have an advantage and can’t fall to bigger and stronger opponents? Why can’t we give credit to smaller guys who have guts fighting those bigger opponents. I think a catchweight of 145 is still disadvantageous to Pacman. The guy is just leveling the field to minimize the disparity to give us excitement and good fight and not a bullying type of boxing.
wat weight did pacquiao start at u idiots.105 lbs?its not as if it is hard to lose 2 pounds.cotto wont eat before the weigh in.hardly weight draining.i think sum writers on this need a different job
On the business side of boxing, fighters and their managers hammer out the specifics and agree to a multitude of different things like the size of the ring, brand of gloves,the site venue and the weight issue. Negotiating means each side has to give and take and at some point both camps agreed to fight at 145 with no belt on the line. Now camp MP wants the belt to be added, let them allow the 147 weight limit instead. MP is not afraid to fight Cotto at 145 why would he balk at fighting at 147, seems simple enough to me.
By the way, Cotto knocks out Manny in the 9th.
Hec, what brains??? You really think Cotto will earn another 10m if he fights MOsley??? hahahaha. Mosley and Cotto won’t even make 10m combined if they fight.hahahaha… It’s too bad Cotto has no confidence in defending his title, you know what that means??? COTTO IS GETTING PUT TO SLEEP LISTENING TO CHIN MUSIC! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Manny should fight Sugar Shane for his belt instead. Sugar is willing to put anything on the line to fight PACMAN. We’ll see how Cotto feels about that. He will make the most money he will ever make in is life by fighting PACMAN. Get paid lots of money or zero money? Which would you choose…
I guess if Pacquiao wanted a welterweight belt he should of agreed to fight Mosley who was willing to put his belt on the line! He had the choice but he chose not to! Now you can’t blame Cotto for being smart on his decision of not putting his belt on the line when for this fight is getting 10m and win or lose he can go make the Cotto vs Mosley2 for their belts for another 10m that’s BRains!
hopkins and de la hoya fought for the middleweight championship and that is 160lbs. …. and they fought also in catchweight of 158 less than 2 lbs also for the limit so why you question that mr. author? the welterweight limit is 140.1-147lbs.. dumb a*s!
This writer is so BIAS. It’s so obvious he’s a PAC hater.. Welterwieght is from 141-147, so that means 145 is considerd as a welterweight and the title SHOULD be on the line… The real reason why Cotto don’t want to put his title on the line is because he knows he going to sleep.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
PACQUIAO WILL PUT COTTO aka “KUTO” to SLEEP in 7 rounds!!!
Cotto doesnt deserve to fight manny.
How much did he earned fighting clottey?
This PRican shhiit is way over his head. Go fight
someone else, let’s see how much he would me
making. Sugar Shane knows fighting manny is like winning the lottery. Cotto doesnt deserve manny or money.
TboneNYC-Well said! I made the same remark about Roy Jones Moving up to heavyweight to challenge John Ruiz for his tittle…and for those who are saying Cotto’s is getting the best paid day of his life thanks to Manny? Well let’s not forget he needs Cotto as well to make the kind of Money he’s about to make on this fight, since that No one wants to fight him! Mosley could never generate for Manny the Kind of money he’s about to make, and Floyd wants no part of Pacman, after the comment Floyd made about he’s fighting the guy who gave Pacman 2 loses lol..Marquez that’s plain and simple Floyd is not fighting him@
There is no way that Cotto should put his welter weight title up for this fight with Pac.
Manny,you want the 147lb title,then you have to fight at the 147lb limit.If it was up to Cotto then the fight would be at 147lbs.In my eyes,Cotto already gave Pac what he wanted but you can’t have it all…sorry.
When Oscar fought B-Hop,atleast Oscar came into the fight as a middle weight champion himself(Oscar had the WBO 160lb title)that he won at the 160lb limit.
Just leave the fight a non title fight n move on with it already.
another jealous writer hehhehe
Oscar does not want Manny to win more belts than him and asked me to ensure that this is not a title fight. We promoters need to look out for each other.
ronald-When you want a champion’s belt you go to hi s weight division and you take his belt, Manny Runs the shots on this fight unless his for Cotto’s belt,When Roy Jones Moved up to heavyweight to fight John Ruiz he did it the right way he moved up challenged the champion and took his belt, he didn’t make Ruiz come down to his division to fight for a belt outside of the weight! Pretty Soon we will have Welterweights challenging Middleweights for their belt as long they can come down to 150lbs to fight them!
hey cotto do not put your belt on the line coz if you do manny will be the 1st man on the planet to win 7th world division title. you will be included at the hall of fame as the 7th division champ manny annihilated & that would be very ashameful. if i were you retire now & vacate the title, it’s for your own good! manny pacquiao will surely destroy you. think about it angela “THE CHICKEN” cotto. i guess you are having sleepless nights already. hide your belt inside a safety box and throw the key into the pacific ocean..
This site’s articles are getting worse and people’s comments are straight up ignorant!
We suppose to be sharing thoughts about a great fight soon to take place in November instead everything have become a circus!
No one knows who the winner is until the fight is over, everyone who knows so much about boxing on this site keep forgetting that boxing is so unpredictable!
aside from Bhop ODLH catchweight at 158 for the undisputed middleweight title, Ceferino Garcia weighed 153 and Henry Armstrong 142 for the middleweight title, none of them were near the limit.
Cotto wants the weight at 145. Manny wants it at 143. Manny gave in to make the fight at 145. Cotto will make the most money ever in his career as a boxer, $5,000.000. + PPV. He will never get this much pay check if he fights somebody else. Manny doesn’t need Cotto. Cotto needs Manny. No Belt No Fight. A rather see Manny fight Mosley. It’ll be more exciting than Cotto. Mosley has balls and would even go down to 140 to fight Manny because he thinks he can win. Cotto doesn’t think he can beat Manny at 145 so he’s not staking his belt
Yes, let the fight be at 147lbs…. but have the official weigh-in on the actual day of the fight and not the day before.
Cotto wants the weight at 145. Manny wants it at 143. Manny gave in to make the fight at 145. Cotto will make the most money ever in his career as a boxer, $5,000.000. + PPV. He will never get this much pay check if he fights somebody else. Manny doesn’t need Cotto. Cotto needs money. No Belt No Fight. A rather see Manny fight Mosley. It’ll be more exciting than Cotto. Mosley has balls and would even go down to 140 to fight Manny because he thinks he can win. Cotto doesn’t think he can beat Manny at 145 so he’s not staking his belt.
Let me correct you Mr writer that according to Mr. Paco of WBO, Miguel Cotto will have to pay only $150,000 (not $300,000). Anyway, Cotto doesn’t have to worry for this sanction fee as Mr. “Greedy” Arum gave his word that he will shoulder the sanction fees of both Pacman and Cotto. Okay, let’s assume that Cotto will cash out from his own pocket: what is $150,000 when compared to the $5 million Cotto will be receiving for taking this fight? Can he rake in such huge amount of money by just fighting the likes of Andre Berto, Paul Williams or even Shane Mosley? From this new development, it seems that Cotto is now dictating the terms and this must be kinda like insulting to Team Pacquiao!!! This is to recall that Team Pacquiao conceded to what Cotto insisted a catchweight of 145lbs instead of 143lbs. Now, Team Cotto continued to abuse ( I must call this an abuse) by not staking his title. In my own personal opinion, Team Pacquiao must teach Miguel Cotto (and including Greedy Arum)a lesson by taking a fight with Mosley instead. Enough is enough!
normal pound limit???? ha9!….hey “pound “”limit”"… welterweight above 140 – 147……got it??? blah blah blah with your catchweight,…excuses…..
147 147 147 147 147 147 147 147 147 147
manny is the pound for pound king not the pound for ounce king. he is considered the best of the best, by all his followers, by his whole country, he is considered the true champion. then fight at 147 limit get your belt and be considered the best pound for pound of all time , but not putting a limit at 145, thats not what a true pound for pound should do
“He should have agreed to fight Cotto at the full 147 welterweight limit if he wanted the title to be on the line. You can’t make a champion agree to come in at a lower weight, a move that benefits Pacquiao, in an effort to fight for their title. That’s really a joke as far as I’m concerned and makes it seem as if Cotto is being set up to fail.”
A catch weight in 145 is not bad because Cotto would be almost 160 lbs on fight night…. the only joke is you… Manuel perez. catch weight has been in the history of boxing you moron
nd anothr thing ..are u aware dat pacquio will give cotto his sweetest payday and still hes being stubborn….cotto is difinitely in no position to call da shots..manny is da pound 4 pound king….nd doing history in the making…the truth hurts ayt?
are u aware dat pacquaio is a small man and u are forcing him 2 fight at 147?dis is a cathweight and at welterweight limit …remember wen oskie fought bernard u stupd fool…
If Cotto does not stake his belt why not fight Mosely instead and get a chance to win all his belts plus more money compared to fighting Cotto. Manny has given too much chance for Cotto the original request was to fight at 143 instead Cotto wants it at 145. Manny agree to fight at 145 but now Cotto wont stake his belt. Stop this and scrap Cotto and fight Mosely instead.
agree with raNDY Lerma, Pac has the aces to withdraw the fight and fight someone else. Pac doesn’t need Cotto it only happen that they’re on the same promotional company. that’s why Bob Arum pick Cotto to fight Pac 1st rather than the rest. in this case Cotto should have been thanking Pac for this opportunity of the life time to earn BIG BIG BUCKS. rather than fighting in NEW YORK earning mini, tiny little cents. Cotto need 6 fights to earn 6million rather than fighting Pac only needs 1. Assuming that he will earn 1million per fight. lol
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if that is the case then. pacquiao should fight some other fighters who is willing to put thier titlle on the line,forget about cotto and let see who gonna lose big the money on the fight no other than arum and cotto.
Dont do it Cotto, if Pacman wants the belt he should allow you to have the choice to put yourself at the limit.
Fighting at a catchweight of 145 is between the 141 and 147 limits so theres no legal reasons why they cant put it on the line but its not a proper title fight in my opinion if Cotto is limited to 145.
If Pacman wants to conqour the 147 division then he cant do it by limiting them to a lesser weight.
So Cotto dictates huh! I will not be surprised if suddenly Pacman will be negotiating with Mosley! Don’t forget that this guy is also a clever business man. If he is not satisfied, he can easily switch sides. Remember GBP Toprank battle over him? Why is Cotto so afraid at 145? He thinks he can never win? Maybe? That’s why he holds on to his belt like dear life! Pacman has some serious balls says roger Mayweather! I don’t know about Cotto!
Folks, read his article again. You will find out that he is not really talking about the real elements in boxing that support facts and truth. He just exposed himself as a mediocre writer with hatred stance towards the Pacman.
Welterweight limit is at 147lbs. so that means 145lbs. is still within the welterweight limit. If Cotto is willing to put his belt on the line its not a problem right? This is suppose to be a mega fight for both fighters including all boxing fans how come there’s no belt on the line. Now he is saying lets fight at 147 and we will have my belt on the line. Pacquiao doesn’t need to fight Cotto at 147. Why not get Mosely instead after all the guy can fight Manny at 142 if Manny says so. No contract has been signed yet so this idea is still possible. Cotto Pacquiao fight was anounced before by Arum to be a tittle bout. I don’t know what happen now. This is a chance for Cotto to prove to the world who he is. Manny can fight Mosely and get the same or even more money than fighting Cotto.It is up to Cotto now to decide.
PUT YOUR BELT ON THE LINE COTTO.. IF NOT YOU’LL BE NAMED MIGUEL “CHICKEN” COTTO FOR THE REST OF YOUR CAREER..
I THINK “CHICKEN COTTO RICAN’S” ARE JUST SCARED OF LOSING HIS BELT.. WAAH WHAT A CRY BABY.
THAT’S IT ALL COTTORICAN’S ARE CHICKEN!!!
Of course I am heavily favored for PACMAN, but I guess to make it fair with Miguel Cotto, let Manny come up to the normal weight (147lbs). Anyway, am sure Manny will defeat Miguel after all.
Pacman should call this fight Off and lets see who’s
a loser….
cotto is just too scared of pacman..the fact that he is the bigger man,he has too many excuses. team pacquiao only wants it to ba a fair match. manny a 140lb champ and cotto is a 147lb champ so thay have to meet halfway to make it even. to become a title fight they shud weigh 147lb?? on fight day they dont weigh 147lbs its just a catch weight. if they want 147lbs the weigh in shud be on the fight day..
I used to respect arum for taking care pf pacquiao. but now i think “ARUM IS SELFFISH”
as for COTTO HIS A BIG AS CHICKEN!!! PAKPAKPAKPAKPAK
COTTO RICAN’s ARE CHICKEN!!!!!!
Anonymous – “cotto’s a real fighter who can with stand any fighter and doesnt moan and try to make people lose weight to fight him unlike manny and roach” – that’s true and I have a lot of respect for Cotto and think he’s a great fighter, but when has he fought a bigger guy? Sure he fought Mosley who’s campaigned at 154 before, but Mosley can make 147 easily.
Manny is my favorite boxer, obviously and yes, it will be a welterweight fight at 145, but the welterweight LIMIT is 147, and if Pac wants the title, then IMO, he should allow Cotto to fight at the limit. It seems like he’s placing HIS restrictions over the governing body’s restrictions in regards to the weight class. Same goes for the ODLH and B-Hop fight.
To me, and to most fans, I could care less whether the title is on the line. I see Pacquiao as a great fighter already and win, lose or draw, he’s already cemented his legacy so for me, so the title doesn’t mean much.
what is happening to the boxing writers these days?… many have gone idiots. Time and time again a boxing fan have to explain the welterweight limits. If ever Pac wants the belt on the line arum should do it for him because he calls shot not cotto.
Oinky – Well said mate. Adding to that who does Pac think he is dictating to governing bodies weights for title fights? And if it’s for Cottos belt….then Cottos the champ and HE HOLDS THE ACES!…..not Pac!
Again, it won’t pass round 3………at 1, cotto will feel the pain. At 2, A single left shot will make him crawl = 1&2 comesth 12th November…
I agree with Cotto about this, he won the title at full weight and he doesn’t have to defend it in a lower limit. He’s the Champion anyway and it’s he’s privilege to defend it fairly from where he won it. Yes 141-147 is the Welterweight limit but no one will expect a 141 pounder to be matched even with a 147 pounder. 145 Catchweight is enough for the fight to be fairly even and materialize. Don’t be too spoiled now demanding for the title. The Champ is the one who should demand here.
If Pac wants Cottos belt on the line. Then Cotto should be allowed to weigh in at 147lbs if he wishes to do so. It’s sad but I’m starting to loose all respect for Pac. For one…who does he think he is trying to now dictate to the champion that not only does his belt have to be on the line but also he’s not allowed to weigh in at the max for a WW fight of 147lbs should Cotto wish to do so! I was a neutral in this fight……..now I’m praying Cotto stomps him!
COTTO SAID NO IF HE WANTS THE BELT ITS AT 147! STRIP ME OF THE BELT IF ITS LESS CAUSE THERE NO 145 WEIGHT CLASS!! I AGREE WITH COTTO IF U WANT THE BELT ITS @ 147 NOT 145
Hey guys…GOT_BEEF sounded so very fair and gentleman enough to distinguish the real score going around.
As if COTTO in reality is hiding somewhere, pretending, looking for excuses and most importantly,playing SAFE esp. if he losses…
You know what? once the paper/contract is signed, those of you PACQUIAO HATERS will just be surprise that it has been agreed at 147lbs. and you PAC-HATERS, i will come back to you and laugh at you loud, because we all know, PACMAN is too much for COTTO.Don’t be surprise………
I guess for MANNY, IF THIS IS NOT A TITLE BOUT AFTER ALL THE EXPLANATION AND HIDDEN AGENDA DURING THE NEGOTIATION, CALL THE FIGHT OFF.
TO MANNY PACQUIAO, YOU HOLD THE ACES, CALL IN SHANE MOSLEY OR WAIT FOR THE WINNER OF MAYWEATHER AND MARQUEZ.
AFTER ALL IS SAID AND DONE, IF THE FIGHT IS CALLED OFF, IT IS COTTO WHO WILL REGRET NOT FIGHTING YOU. THAT OPPURTUNITY TO WIN SIX OR MORE MILLION DOLLARS DOESN’T COME BY OFTEN.
RANDY
Little Pacquiao wanted it to be at 143 and the big cotto wanted the fight at 145.. so the liitle pacquiao manned up and gave the big boy what he wanted.. now the natural big boy wants to move up to 147..
Isnt obvious that big cotto knows that his going to lose to the little pacquiao.. If the belt wasn’t on the line and cotto loses he would still earn pretty big money cuz he still has the belt to back him up..
@ GLASS JOE well said mate… well said… this author is a joke…. hahahahahhalolhahahah
-DELAHOYA ASKING HOPKINS TO COME DOWN ON CATCHWEIGHT NO ONE SAID NUTHING
-MARGARITO CHEATED HMMMM NUTHING AGAIN
But hey if manny was black, mexican or white then maybe he is good…
all you ppl hatin are a F@ckin Joke… a real joke
Valcarcel said,Cotto’s fee is 150,000 not 300,000,Pacquiao the same amount and Arum’s fee is 40,000.Valcarcel acknowledged that there was a precedent of a catch weight in a title fight,and it was de la Hoya challenging in a middle fight and it was under wbo.You are good in propagating falsehood in order to suck lots of hits, I hope you will not have a heart attack laughing.
Same formula for making a news article for this moron…
wait for news about Pacquiao to surface and then write a negative variation of the Pacquiao news into an article
141-147 is Welterweight… De La Hoya made Hopkins fight him at 156 for the Middleweight title Perez never mentioned it…. hmmm oh wait I forgot De La Hoya is Mexican he never says anything about Mexicans…
articles about Margarito cheating = 0
negative articles about Pac = 9999884854395874875
Totally agree – Pacquiao can’t have it both ways, if he wants the title on the line, then fight at 147, if he wants the fight at 145 then no title. Of course the WBO are happy to agree to this being a title bout, despite being at 145 because it means big $$ for them. It’s a shame the WBO do not make a crediable stand and say, no 147 limit, no title. This sums up what is wrong with all these dofferent bodies.
I agree with Google and kupz, this can be a title bout.limit as in limit is 147,however “welterweight is from 145-147″kupz is right. Perez do your homework first..damn as*!!
yes there was a thread title before with the “141-147 is Welterweight”
explaining, if you didn’t already know, that any weight in the above range = Welterweight
can’t argue against that, it’s a fact. as given the hypothetical example if WBC Junior Welterweight Champion Tim Bradley came in weighing 145 for a Jun. Welt. title defense
he would be 5lbs overweight, and since he’s too heavy for Junior Welter, his weight (145) would be the next division up, which is Welterweight.
we get it, no problem there.
and as for the other smart ass that said “there’s no 147 Division”
your absolutely right, you can weigh in at 146 for a welterweight title fight, and still fight for a Welterweight title … the definition said up to 147 ..as long as a fighter isn’t over 147, he should be good.
however I looked up 3 definitions of Welterweight (2 dictionary’s and dictionary.com)
and every single one of those definitions the weight of 147 pounds is part of the Welterweight definition.
so while there might not be a specific “147 division” welterweight is defined as a division with a max weight of 147.
with that in mind, putting a catchweight of 145 in essence changes the definition of Welterweight, because instead of a max weight of 147, it’s changed to the catchweight.
contracts aside, fighting at 145 still is Welterweight, since it’s under 147
but making a catchweight bout where 145 is the max you can weigh, changes the original Welterweight definition which has a 147 pound limit.
I guess your making progress Perez, Found it somehow objective but still destructive. Still making big issue on catch weight. Still convincing people that Cotto is weak at 145 so you will have an excuse if Pacquiao win.
Continue you medicine it’s working somehow.
welterweight limit is from 141-147 …damn as*!!
manny shud man up and agree to fight at 147 if he really wants his wbo title, but i hope that cotto doesnt agree to putting his title up for grabs at 145, cotto’s a real fighter who can with stand any fighter and doesnt moan and try to make people lose weight to fight him unlike manny and roach, i still feel cheated that Antonio Margarito the cheating basstard won that fight