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Floyd Mayweather Jr, and the fantastic four

louis brown

Floyd Mayweather Jr. would have been beaten by; Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, and Roberto Duran. Mayweather Jr.struggled against De Lahoya and Oscar was not in the same league as any of the fantastic 4. Mayweather Jr. is a great fighter in his time, but I believe that if FMJ had to fight in the era of the fantasic 4 he FMJ would have had to settle for decision loses or if he got lucky a close win by decision. FMJ would have not dominated in the era of the fantasic 4, FMJ would have been great even then, but his greatness would have only have helped him to have survived not dominate the era of the fantastic 4.

Posted May 5, 2013  


tixio

1)HAGLER
2)HEARNS
3)LEONARD MAYWEATHER
4)DURAN

Per un motivo molto semplice…..hagler vs leonard ha lasciato molti dubbi!!!

Posted January 13, 2013  


Acorn Fan

You make two excellent points. Pryor ate quite a few punches in his heyday and he didn’t (seem to) mind taking two to land one. Against Arguello, who was known as a slick boxer-puncher, Pryor was able to walk through his punches. I believe that Arguello came up from featherweight where he had many knockouts. Against Pryor though, his punches barely moved him. On the other hand, Duran hit like a little mule kicking and there is no doubt in my mind that Pryor would have been much more defensive minded against him. Still, I would have paid good money to see those two go toe to toe in the ring! It would have been a classic, even if it only lasted a few rounds. Both of them were so stubborn though, it’s conceivable that they would have willed themselves to the finish. Who knows? Maybe it would have been a servies like Marquez versus Pacquaio. All we can do is “dream” on this one. Thanks.

Posted January 10, 2013  


Acorn Fan

My apologies. My “dream match” should have read “Pryor versus Duran”. I should never write anything before my coffee kicks in (smile). Thanks.

Posted January 10, 2013  


Geoff

@AcornFan… I agree with you AcornFan, it’s been an interesting discussion in which many different opinions have been put forward and not too much nonsense.
One thing that puzzled me a little was your comment… ‘By the way, a “dream match” of mine that also never happened was Duran vs. Leonard. Those two balls of fire in one ring would have been a classic. But, the fates again were not kind and they never met…’
These two met 3 times: twice in 1980 (a win and a loss for both) and again in 1989 (Leonard won). I admit, I’d completely forgotten the third meeting myself.
But perhaps I’ve misunderstood or something…?
An observation; from what I recall in the first fight Leonard was so over-confident (arrogant even?) that he fought Duran at his own game; and lost. In the second fight he used hit-and-run which was much more successful.
Because they fought each other we have a good idea how good they were (both all-time-greats). Duran was a much more effective fighter at his best weight, but even the blown-up version was a good match for Leonard, Hagler and to a lesser extent Hearns.

Posted January 10, 2013  


Acorn Fan

Geoff, all that you say makes perfect sense. However, the truth must be told. Aaron Pryor “begged” Leonard to fight him. He sent messages, he called him out on television several times, he sent his manager to discuss a meeting and he was rejeced every time. Aaron Pryor was a wildcat with a lion’s heart and unmatched stamina. He would have pressured Leonard worse that Duran did and I am not so sure that Leonard’s size advantage would have mattered. It is certainly true that the two never met in the ring. It is just as true to say that if Leonard every really wanted to fight him (see Matweather versus Pacquaio), it would have happened. No, Leonard wanted no part of Pryor and I can certainly see why. Pryor would have been a nightmare fight for Leonard and a victory was not guaranteed against him. By the way, a “dream match” of mine that also never happed was Duran vs. Leonard. Those two balls of fire in one ring would have been a classic. But, the fates again were not kind and they never met, although I am sure the thought and discussion arose at the time. Thanks.

Posted January 10, 2013  


Geoff

Sorry for the delay Tom. I had work to see to.
Who has Mayweather avoided? And I’m not allowed to mention Margarito, and everyone seems to have forgotten Tszyu. Well…
I don’t remember Mayweather rushing to fight southpaw Paul Williams at Welter 5 or 6 years ago, and I seem to recall considering that southpaw Sergio Martinez would make an interesting contest at Super Welter round about the same time. And there’s no way, in my opinion, that he’ll risk taking on the southpaw, and natural Super Welter, Austin Trout now.
Do you see my line of thought? If you include in the years between Pacquiao (in his prime?) you’ll see that they’ve all got one thing in common; they’re all lefties. We might have a better idea if there’s anything in this argument after Mayweather’s fight with Guerrero, but I doubt it. Guerrero’s not in the same class as Martinez, Pacquiao and Williams.
But whatever your conclusions, it still doesn’t change the basis of what makes a boxer an all-time-great in my opinion; the standard of the opposition. And not one of Mayweather’s opponents is an all-time-great or close to it. Which can only cast doubt on his achievements. How good he is we’ll probably never know for sure now. If you don’t fight the best how can you prove you’re one of them?
By the way, I saw here someone suggesting that Ray Leonard avoided Aaron Pryor. This is nonsense. You don’t go into the ring with Duran twice, Benitez, Hagler, and Hearns twice if you’re scared of a fight.
It’s been an interesting discussion Tom. Looking forward to the next one.

Posted January 10, 2013  


geno

Hagler was simply to big. There is nothing to talk about there. Manny Stewart has said more than once that Leonard and Hearns were too big for Floyd. I agree. When you think about it Leonard and Hearns only fought a few years in their prime at 147 and then Leonard retired and Hearns moved up. Hearns beat Benitez at 154 and Benitez was a bigger, stronger man than Floyd. Benitez was a full-fledged 154ib fighter. Duran was a little past his prime as he had over 70 fights when he first fought Leonard, but that is the only matchup worth talking about. I say at 147 it is a toss up but Leonard was bigger and had faster feet than Floyd and I don’t think Floyd could copy what Leonard did in Duran-Leonard II. In Duran-Leonard I Ray held and smothered Duran but Floyd is not as big and strong as Leonard was. Floyd’s speed and defense would keep a 147 fight close. At 135lb Duran would convincingly beat Floyd as Duran was very quick and a great boxer/puncher at 135lb. I think Dejesus might beat Floyd at 135lb and if not for Duran people would be talking about Dejesus as an all-time great 135lb fighter. Duran fought nothing like Pacman so I really question the writer knowledge of boxing. Duran could use his jab well to setup combos and work insude, although it is true he did not have a piston like jab but his jab was still effective.

Posted January 9, 2013  


Tom Drury

@Acorn Fan

Thanks for the feedback, i myself thought it was an interesting topic.

Posted January 9, 2013  


Acorn Fan

Mr. Drury, this is exactly what an article on these sites should do, which is draw opinions. No one is ever going to agree 100%, but it’s great that just about everyone can back up their opinion with facts. Personally, I’d like to see more of these from time to time. Of course, all we can do is speculate, but that’s the fun of these. Please don’t be discouraged by the few posters that dismissed your article. It was fine and the number of posters that responded tells the story. Thanks.

Posted January 9, 2013  


MackTruckin’

@Hernanday Leonard beat everybody Hagler, Hearns, Duran, and Benetez.

Mayweather is good but he after the De La hoya fight he’s been cherry picking easy oppononts. His retirement was an elaborate way to duck a very stacked welterweight division (The undefeated pre margacheato Cotto, The Undefeated 6 ft 3 welterweight phenom Paul Williams, and a one good fight left in him Mosley and Manny Pacqiuo) That two year layoff ruined his legacy because every fight since then has been the fight nobody wanted…we’d buy it BUT we didnt want it

Posted January 9, 2013  


Tom Drury

@Fans

Thanks for the comments and feedback guys even if the article wasnt to your liking.

Posted January 9, 2013  


matt jeremy

this article now has the most comments in this web sites history ” why ? because many of you want to see floyd lose ! the main reason is; floyd has been the best !!!! and the truth is that all you stupids that favor the bangers’ and brawlers just don’t like it. so you are just as dumb and broke as your favorites end up …….

Posted January 9, 2013  


lacem up

Floyd is the man right now. Whoever he fights will be a “lesser” fighter in your guy’s eyes. Please do not mention Margarito in the same breath as Mayweather. Cheato was a club fighter and no more.
Mayweather is p4p the best, period.
Who else can shut out Marquez the way he did? People said Floyd Mayweather would “run” from Mosley. Wrong again because Floyd took it to him and all people say is Mosley almost koed Floyd. Shane landed a great punch, that is it, no more. Not even close to a knock out.
You guys are living in the past when top fighters fought 5 or 10 times a year. Todays elite fighrters fight once or twice a year, no more.
You can cry all you want and say “DUCKING” or whatever but PPV rules the roost.
There is no way a fighter can fight every guy out there.
Floyd has no rivalry like Pacquiao vs. Marquez because he is heads and tails above them. No need to fight again, no demand.
Floyd is the best and rated so because he can beat those that box and those than slug. He adapts in the ring to beat any style.

Posted January 9, 2013  


Tom Drury

@Geoff

Please take into consideration this point also, your right Corrales and Gatti were beat, Corrales after Mayweather destroyed him, its not the fact that Mayweather beat them its how he did it compared to other fighters thats how you should gage Floyds talent and skills.

Posted January 9, 2013  


Tom Drury

@Geoff

The fantastic four as we know them are all greats, spectacular fighters! that yes fought anybody, times were different then boxing was a melting pot of talent and individuals who come to fight.

Name the risky fights that Mayweather has so called “ducked” please dont mention Margarito please.

Posted January 9, 2013  


Geoff

@TomDrury…
You are undoubtedly correct Tom that Corrales and Gatti were no.1 contendors ‘at the time’. I take your word for it. But what do we know about Corrales and Gatti now; in retrospect? That’s what’s important if we are going to have any chance of judging Mayweather in comparison to the big 4. How good is Mayweather is the question?
Both Corrales and Gatti were brave, good fighters. Wonderful to watch. Under no circumstances though was either boxer an all-time-great or even an exceptional fighter. Gatti lost to Micky Ward, and Ivan Robinson twice. Corrales lost to Castillo (who lost to Hatton etc. etc.) and to Casamayor twice. This gives you some idea of their true ranking. Good, no more.
I claim; you judge a boxer by the opposition he beats. There’s no other way! And Mayweather’s opposition doesn’t come close to any of the lists of the big 4. And that’s almost totally Mayweather’s own fault because he’s desperate to retain his worthless 0, and therefore avoids taking risky fights.
The big 4 weren’t scared of anybody. Not even each other.

Posted January 9, 2013  


GearC

Great article. Leonard may have been quick enough and smart enough (the only one) to get in and get out and take in on points. Hagler may have just overwhelmed him but I also pick Floyd here. Duran would have troubled him but I agree, not beaten him. Hearns would be the one to beat him but Mayweather always finds a way to win.
So I would go with Hearns as well.
Cant decide on Leonard so giving it a draw.
Floyd beats Hagler and Duran.

Posted January 9, 2013  


lacem up

To say any fighter fights guys that he knows he will beat is silly. Most if not every boxer thinks he can/will win a fight. People said Hatton would knock out Mayweather, same to a lessor extent with Mosley. Mosley got old 5 minutes after the Mayweather fight.
Who saw Manny Pacquiao getting koed cold like that, by a 39 year old? Pac was supposed to beat Bradley easy. Pac looked average. You never know.
Them guys fought each other back then because at THAT time that is where the money was. Sugar Ray Leanord avoided several fighters, one being Arron Pryor.
The only guys that fight ANY ONE regardless are when they are up and coming fighters because they have to make a name for them self.
With the advent of social media like this website, facebook twitter etc, it is way different. Them guys wish they had the tools to make this much money back then.
Keep drinking the HATER-AID!..

Posted January 9, 2013  


Tom Drury

@Geoff

I challenge you to tell me the “great fighters” Mayweather could have fought instead of Corrales and Gatti “at the time”????
Gatti was (1) ranked contender, Corrales (1) ranked fighter and (5) p4p and undefeated????

Posted January 9, 2013  


Geoff

@hernanday… I agree with you that Hagler is the 3rd best middleweight ever, after Robinson and Monzon. And he doesn’t have a ‘precious 0′ either, which shows what that’s worth. As you say Mayweather’s defence doesn’t appear to work against southpaws, which is why you almost certainly won’t see him fight Austin Trout. Too risky…
@lacem up… The great 4 fought each other not because it made them look good but because in those days the ‘classic’ fights were where the money was. Fans, rightfully, wanted to see Hagler v Hearns or Leonard v Duran, and these fights confirmed all 4’s ‘all-time-greatness’.
Nowadays Mayweather can earn tens of millions by fighting boxers that everyone knows he’s going to beat before they even start. The logic is; preserve the ‘precious 0′ and hope that no-one notices he’s fighting once a year against damaged or second rate opposition. He’s creating the ‘recognition’ problem himself. A great fighter proves it by beating other great fighters, not by outclassing Corrales and Gatti.

Posted January 9, 2013  


EMAN

Scared Coward comparing to these 4 boxing greats is an idiotic idea…

…Scared Coward does not even know how to deal with Pacman (twice fighter of the decade, truly)…

…he should fight Pacman (trice with back to back fighter of the year, indeed) first before this writer relate and connect the scared coward from the boxers of the eighties…

…if he passed over the only 8 division of this planet(with 10 titles, of course), the writer should think twice again before he consider to compare the scared coward to the abovementioned boxers…

…it’s a long way to go for the scared coward…

Posted January 9, 2013  


EMAN

Floyd comparing to these 4 boxing greats is an idiotic ideas…

…Floyd does not even know how to deal with Pacman…

…he should fight Pacman first before this writer relate and connect the scared coward from the boxers of the eighties…

…if he passed over the only 8 division of this planet(with 10 titles, of course), the writer should think twice again before he consider to compare the scared coward to the abovementioned boxers…

…it’s a long way to go for the scared coward…

Posted January 9, 2013  


bigboi

what you all must realise is that every fighter is great until they get in there with floyd and are out classsed the fantastic 4 would be no different, they were talented but not God gifted. Thats all

Posted January 9, 2013  


PretentiousFloyd

Al Haymon and I did a fantastic cherry picking against those 4.
Fantastic 1 – a bloated lightweight Marquez to fight me in WW. Come on, Marquez was fighting a Middleweight Floid that night. hahahaha..
Fantastic 2 – I know he’s past his prime and old Mosley but I got so lucky to hold on when he wobbled me.
Fantastic 3 – I knew it, he’s so green and a quitter. That was so easy win – sucker punch!
Fantastic 4 – I considered Cotto undefeated – fought Margacheato and catchweight against Pacquiao. He’s no damaged fighter ‘coz I saw my own blood not from Cotto.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Jamesdin

Mayweather I dont think he can beat any of this best 4 boxer, because this great 4 boxer fight who’s the best, in this era of boxer including Mayweather Jr they choose a opponent to be the best

Posted January 8, 2013  


Crazyglues

You guys don’t know nothing about boxing, Like Roger Mayweather said, they don’t care about a guy who got power, or a guy who got speed, or a big dude… skills pay the bills

and as long as they fought in the same weight class, Floyd would beat them all….

Posted January 8, 2013  


roel

Pacquiao and Floyd is not at the same level with DURAN at 135 lbs, because there is no one who want to fight DURAN at that division in his prime.

Posted January 8, 2013  


danny boyle

muck truckin pretty close although duran at lightweight over 15 rounds would stop fmw as he runs out of gas even when he is winning

Posted January 8, 2013  


BLUE DOG

Floyd Mayweather vs:

HAGLER would win by late KO to much weight gap

HEARNS heght, reach & size advantaje, too much power for Floyd to handle, Hitman wins by brutal KO

LEONARD too skilled for floyd, Sugar would school him and stop him by late TKO

DURAN , now son you must be a young boxing fan to write so much nonesense, Duran was really skilled and also had a great defense. Pacquia isnt in the same level as Duran was. Manos de Piedra would punish Floyd and win by late TKO.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Anonymous

Mayweather UD over Hearns, Hagler, and Duran.

Leonard UD over Mayweather

Posted January 8, 2013  


roel

Floyd sr is taller than Floyd jr. and Leonard beats the taller how much more the smaller version? it will be a masacre.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Tom Drury

@Anonymous

It was just based on the fantastic four as we know them. Sugar Ray Robinson is also in my opinion the best fighter that ever lived.

Posted January 8, 2013  


MackTruckin’

I’m not really sure what to make of this list but its an interesting excercise.For those of you that can’t see the fun in this and want to turn into a hate filled tirade Go do something else!
But I will add to this discussion by putting the fights in the Primes and at the best weights

1) Hagler at 160 a middleweight that could take one hell of a punch. I think he would maul Mayweather at 160 so theres no need to bring him up here. Even at 154 Mayweather is not big enough to hold of Marvin Hagler with his precise counterpunch one hitter quiters he uses these days in weights 147 to 154. Hagler by knockout

2)Tommy Hearns at 147 or 154 would beat Mayweather 10 times out of 10. Tommy was too tall and had too much reach for Floyd’s Philly shell defense and quick counter punch to have any effect. Hearns would land over hand right all day by punching over Mayweather’s shoulder roll

3) Leonard at 147 could go either way. Leonard was a master boxer and this would turn into a master class of boxing skill. I give the edge to Leonard because his foot work was superior but he really like to body punch and I think Mayweather’s defense would work. Again it could either way

4) Roberto Duran’s best years were at Lightweight 135 pounds. He was ferocious he through punches in bunches BUT he also had a great defense and knew how to box. Mayweather was a different fighter at 135. He was way more offensive and threw beautiful combinations on top of combination on top of combinations and at 135 his punches hit harder and were way faster and he would engage more. Remeber the beating he put on “Chop Chop” This in my view would be the comst entertaining and the competitivw fight for Mayweather. And I think he could get Duran but this too is too close to call but I’d give a slight edge to Mayweather

So in closing I say Hagler and Hearns would be knockout wins over Mayweather and Leonard and Durn would be extremely close giving a slight edge to Leonard and a slight edge to Mayweather over Duran

Posted January 8, 2013  


Geoff

@TomDrury… That got everyone speculating Tom.
There were even some decent comments among the hate and nonsense.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Anonymous

To the author,

I like these proposed fantasy matches so do not let the little boys on here discourage you ok.

One question: Did you leave out Surag Ray Robison because he is too good to mention?

I think Robison would beat every fighter mentioned including FMJ!

Posted January 8, 2013  


bklyn221

I’m a true MAY fan but in my opion he would have never beat any of these 4 fighters in their prime, another thing HAGLER was never a welterweight.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Rwboxer

Ha ha! This guy’s crazy! He must not been watching these fighters in theyre primes. Leonard was a faster puncher than Mayweather, Duran at light weight much harder puncher, so was Leonard by the way. Hearns reach and power destroys Zmauweather. Haggler size and strength would be too much. Too naturally big. Article us a joke.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Manong Ilocano Oscar

Writer’s opinion is hogwash. Leonard would have knock Mae, like what Ray did to Mae’s father with that roll and shoulder defense which is not effective against a fast and volume fighter. Hagler would have gone thrh Mae’s should and roll defense, like a train going thru a small fiat car collision… just like what hagler did with Hearns. Hearns would have knocked him out cold, while Roberto Duran would have beaten Mae into submission during Duran’s best days. Anyway, writer is a big fan of glassy chin Hearns whom writer gave a KO won over Mae. At least, writer scores one out of four – meaning 25% accuracy!

Posted January 8, 2013  


hypa hypa

kell brook v andrea ward lenord v hadler surrlyNOT HE IS SON OF GOD NOT REALY remember what ive put down.

Posted January 8, 2013  


M111

Errmmm, Hagler fought Hearns, Leonard and Duran at middleweight. Its a bit like asking if Floyd would beat Vitali Klitschko. Besides, Ray Robinson would’ve beaten all of them and he isn’t even mentioned.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Betus

Mayweather would have been like wilfred benitez one of the best defensive fighters of his era. No chance against Leonard’s hand speed, hitman’s power and hagler’s size

Posted January 8, 2013  


Tom Drury

@The fans

I wrote this article as something to debate on, i am well aware these fights couldn’t happen, as for Hagler been a middle-weight i am well aware of that do has Floyd Mayweather Jr fought at light-middleweight? could a fight happen between Mayweather and Hagler if it was reality and not fantasy? YES. Duran was a lightweight did he fight Hagler? i understand many fans dont like fantasy debate so i will not write an article of this kind again.

176 comments does tell me it wasnt that bad in regards to the article. thanks

Posted January 8, 2013  


Tom Drury

@Acornfan

I did see Duran at lightweight, he was frightening! at welterweight he is Paquiao.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Anonymous

Fist off Hagler was a well built middleweight and always was!

As for the other names on the list I think they all have an
excellent chance of beating FMJ!

Posted January 8, 2013  


HIIICKEN

You noob! hagler was a middleweight, so the comparison doesn’t make sense…

Posted January 8, 2013  


Liam Odell

I dont see why people say a fighter would lose to a past fighter, its all well and good spectulating but we will never know because it will never happen.

Posted January 8, 2013  


roel

Floyds last four fights.
1. over fatigue COTTO
2. ORTIZ the quiter
3. over the hill MOSLEY
4, a lightweight MARQUEZ

PLEASE mr. writer do not compare Floydie to HAGLER, LEONARD, HEARNS AND DURAN.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Propos

Y’all got me sounding like I’m defending Floyd’ when I’m defending boxing. Way to much promoting ain’t good for this sport an as a result u got way to many belts an people trying to build superstar over night with out testing them at all and got the nerve to ask us the fans to be patient buy this fight an the next one will be better we promise,! Only to gve us more bs with poor under cards that next fight also!! At least Floyd makes sure u get entertained and ain’t afraid to fight the young the old the undefeated the bigger the brawler the leftys ,other boxers counter punchers even Big Show..this guy takes all comers and the thing I love is regardless they style he fights them only on win streaks never when they coming off losses an never try’s to get an advantage he lets them pick what ever is comftable. An people who say Floyd ain’t got power well tell people to stop making him wear 10 oz gloves an u will see his power ,I mean those gloves are so wide an big for his hands it’s a wonder he can hold his arms up past the 9th round but its what they ask for an he agrees

Posted January 8, 2013  


roel

DURAN will assassinate Floydie in the welterweight division.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Propos

Just because a boxer fights 100 times or 30 means nothing it’s his skill set period,Floyd fighting once a year means tha when u get a crack at him make it count but none can . Me myself I love it!! Mainly because he doesn’t give promoters a chance to capitalize off him ,to much in boxing its bs after bs fights but 1 thing the world can say is Floyd fights or tries to fight the best fights out their now that he’s his own boss ! He couldn’t do that with bob an u can look at how promoters pick fights now an can tell they pick opponents based on safety rather than based on fighting the best,but Floyd ain’t ever ducked nobody and if he did name them.! Facts please not who u think he ducked,I got money for anybody can show me it was Floyd’s desicions not to fight whoever and not his Promotor at that time! All it takes is to see how that same promoter is handling things now to see how he did then (Gamboa vs Lopez ,donair vs mares ,PAC vs Floyd ) he loves waiting to long for good fights trying to get the most out of his golden eggs that’s why u see.a bunch of repeats instead of new rivals

Posted January 8, 2013  


TY

Sugar Ray is the only guy that would give Floyd some go the other 3 would end up the same way they did when they lost to Ray. Hate him or love if you have to go all the way back to the 80’s era to find a fight or comp for Floyd then that should let you know how good he is. Anyone who mentions Pacmans name in this article is a IDIOT!!!!!

Posted January 8, 2013  


Duke

@roel
duran gave a good account of himself against hagler at 160. duran didn’t pitter-patter hagler like leonard and duran fought 15 rounds. hagler had to win the last two rounds to pull out the win. it was duran that told leonard he can beat hagler right after the fight. and duran also beat a prime iran barkley who hearns couldn’t beat in two meetings. duran had a solid middleweight run considering him being a natural lightweight.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Duke

i believe floyd would be the favorite in all the matchups besides tommy hearns. tommy is the only one of the four that had a great jab and floyd has trouble with a great jab especially that long jab tommy had.

Posted January 8, 2013  


roel

DURAN is not as good as HAGLER, HEARNS AND LOENARD in the middleweight division because he is only 5′ 7 1/2″ and basically comes from lightweight. but to compare DURAN in welter weight to FLOYD, IT IS BEYOND COMPARISON.

Posted January 8, 2013  


him who observes

dont know if any 12 round era fighter could sit with those four mentioned…..just saying, that additional 11 minutes can be critical. Much respect to Pacquiao and Mayweather, Jr.

Posted January 8, 2013  


EMAN

James confirmed that Pacquiao is the greatest of this era…

…you Floydiot is a secret admirer of Pacman…

…don’t you ever deny that…

Posted January 8, 2013  


EMAN

Foreal

Eman is an embacile.

Posted January 8, 2013

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Foreal does’nt know how to spell imbecile.

Foreal is a certified Floydiot…

Posted January 8, 2013  


EMAN

Foreal

Floyd has an IQ that the so called fabulours 4 can only dream of. Pacquiao can’t even make it in the story.

Posted January 8, 2013
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Well, I think the IQ of Floyd Mayweather, Jr. is of the scared genius…

…it’s laughable for the 4 great and courageous boxers mentioned in this article to dream of that kind of IQ.

…floyd, Jr. is so smart to find a way to duck Pacquiao that floydiots find it a wise idea..

Posted January 8, 2013  


jasonI

Also Todays Athletes are far faster and stronger than guys in the past,in all sports, the physical perimeters have changed.Look at the NFL as an example. The question should be “How could those guys compete Today?”

Posted January 8, 2013  


jasonI

@resist ,what does retiring or ducking have to do with skill in the ring,and to everyone stuck in the past get over it, you sound like guys saying rap was better in the 90s, maybe YOU were better in the 90s and now you old and lame…

Posted January 8, 2013  


Geoff

@jake… Well spotted Jake. Difficult to be one of the ‘best welterweight fighters ever’ if you never fought in that division. It shows how careful you have to be to write articles…
@Resist N Smoke… Also spot on. Duran fought 6x one year…

Posted January 8, 2013  


jake

@Tom Drury. Hagler was never a welterweight. Just wondered if you knew that.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Resist N Smoke

@Foreal

Were your boy Floyd at? How can you call a guy who retires in his prime, and then comes back to fight once every 16 months legendary?

Floyd dont even belong in the same breath as these great boxers.

Thats how i know your all rookie amature boxing fans, you get all dazzled and wet over Floyd looking good in the ring, but you dont take other factors into consideration that make a fighter great.

Sugar Ray Robinson is the real deal.

Floydie is all about preservation, hes the only fighter to openly admit he fights for money, not to be legendary, he claims he preserves him self, and that his health is the most important.

Does it make sense that a guy who wants to preserve him self and his health, would take dangerous match ups?

HELL NO! Floydie the chicken

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

Those guys existed in their own era, and Floyd reighns supreme in his own era. You can’t say that for the Pacman can you?

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

A good example was the Gatti-Floyd fight. Gatti looked a fearsome worrior when he faught bums that traded punches with him. This is what Pactards like and call it toe-to toe. See what happened with Floyd? There was no chance for trading blows. See what happened Marquez Vs Floyd? no chance for exchanging blows but pure brains at work. This is what would have happened to the so called fabulous 4.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Rapid

If those guys were around today, we wouldn’t even be talking about Mayweather…. Well, except how he wouldn’t fight any of them! Only one I see him fighting would have been Duran, but only after he got older, and had been beaten a few times.. None of them in there prime no way!

Posted January 8, 2013  


Propos

Haggler an Duran were brawlers first an foremost an that really says it all.. Duran would be food for Floyd for 12 rounds always chasing waiting to land that one good punch that would never come! He wouldn’t have the speed to compete. Now Haggler had decent speed but his timing depended on where his opponent chose to fight him,meaning he only looked his best in trades,and looked very average when he wasn’t trading or in wars

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

If anything, Pacquiao was able to mix it up with Marquez for one simple reason. Marquez is limited in certain areas. He throws his shots wide, closes his eyes when countering and moves back in a straight line. Pacquiao comes in wildly and can land some shots. Floyd would simply side-step him and pop him with those whicked check-hooks. Floyd moves laterally and has good upper body movement while Marquez is some-what still up there.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

Pacquiao had power (from PEDs) but that is just about all. He is a dull fighter who jumps arround the ring like a Kangaroo and his fans thinks that is boxing. This is why he was timed in mid air and disaster struck.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

@ Propos

You are right on the point. I can tell that you understand this game.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

It is so funny how Pacidiots think Floyd ducks anybody. Floyd has never ducked anybody….don’t even mention the word Pacquiao. Floyd would have whooped all the 4, because he ia all thinking, adjusting and has a tight defense. Most of these were senceless hungry fighters that looked good at it just like Pacquiao. Sugar ray had some semblance of talent and witts. Huggler and tommy were sluggers like Pacquiao, they would have been poped out by Floyd.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Propos

Lenard to me would be like Floyd an Zab a good fast pace fight and that fight would be won in the center of the ring ..yeah I love Lenard’s combos but let’s look at the type of styles he was able to get those combos off on..in the layer rounds I never liked hoe lenard looked ever,even when he was in control he always looked like he was uncomfortable or hard to close out those champion rounds,where as with Floyd they seem to get easier. I’ve never ever seen a fighter frustrate so many A an B level fighters in my life like he has ,I mean they all just don’t no what to do with him even hall a famers were lost always trying to force him to the ropes and swing wild or head but or even try an throw him out the ring lol ..but look at his composure an eye contact !! Something that was lacking in all 4if u ask me. Lenard had speed and knew how to put his punches together but not much else after that which is why he wasn’t undefeated with the speed he was blessed with! His ring iq was very low in my eyes I mean he always made fights harder than they had to be because of his lack of that iq mixing it up when he shouldn’t ,burning energy when he should have been coasting ,exchanging when wh should have been countering I could go on an on . Great but to flawed to beat Floyd

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

Floyd has an IQ that the so called fabulours 4 can only dream of. Pacquiao can’t even make it in the story.

Posted January 8, 2013  


simon

I am sorry but this man is not among equal with DURAN, HAGLER, HEARNS AND LEONARD. these four did not duck anybody.

Posted January 8, 2013  


clivedozan

Pointless including Hagler in the argument as he was a career Middleweight. The other 3 would have beaten Mayweather in their primes no doubt about it.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Geoff

@Pugilisti_Professor… You’re spot on. Duran was scary at Lightweight. But like many fighters who move up the weights, he couldn’t intimidate the bigger fighters.
At his best weight though Duran would have eaten Mayweather for breakfast.

Posted January 8, 2013  


sadly

We will never know how good mayweather could have been and for that reason.. its impossible to say he would beat any of those four…reality is those 4 were fantastic as they all fought each other and created history… yet we cant get pacquiao and mayweather in the ring….its really sad. Mayweather history shows he wouldnt fight these guys in their prime instead similar to pacquiao catchweights or passed their best fighters.. I would have loved to have seen mayweather in a real big fight as he could have defined his legacy.. instead he is fighting victor ortiz, Robert Guerrero etc…. cannon fodder. What happened to the best v the best? Only sport I know that can pick and choose “championship” imagine the nba playoff final being decided by agents instead of sporting ability…. damn shame. So… no mayweather wouldnt have won any of these fights as he probably wouldnt have fought any of them… not hating just going on his career trend.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Propos

Floyd beats all 4 and this is why..Tommy had height but didnt use it as a strength ,he took way to many blows in his fights even the ones he won, to me defense was lacking in all 4 an Floyd has a whole lot power than he’s given credit for or had to use due to his great skills,it ain’t his fault that no one can push him hard enough because talent wise the only guys we can compare him with are legends long gone!! Tommy an corralis were very very similar far as height styles an strength an I also think that fight would end the same way! I mean if Lenard could do what he did with his poor poor defense Floyd would have a field day all night long! In boxing height has never played a factor amongst the elites (PAC vs magerita,Floyd vs corrals,Tyson vs everybody ) u get the point..lets not act like tommy wasn’t without flaws that could and were exploited ,and his reach would have been a problem for maybe 2 rounds then it would have been taken away trust me ..his jab (for all his reach) wasn’t better than the jab of Oscars ( yes the version Floyd fought an beat) and he was better suited for stationary fighters nor the ones who had far greater footwork than he was blessed with not to mention ring iq which ain’t even close to being close.

Posted January 8, 2013  


gary

this article is irrelevant, how can mayweather even be put in same sentence as these guys, the fab 4 were warriors who wanted to wreck each other to see who was best p4p fighter, pacquaio technically because of his titles is p4p best ever but mayweather aint remotely interested in fighting him, the fab 4 must laugh at state of boxing and mayweather/pacquaio in general because their greed and the fact that their main priority is how much money they make and not that the fans that have wanted this fight for years, complete selfishness from both, i have more respect for cotto and marquez who have fought the best in their prime or in cottos case tried to get mayweather in his prime and when interviewed mayweather always avoided the question

Posted January 8, 2013  


jasonI

Im not into “fantasy boxing” , this is worse than tvs”deadliest warriors”

Posted January 8, 2013  


anthony souffront

i know that if victor ortiz wouldn’t have been cheated n knocked out by vicous coward with his hands completely down position, what kind of fighter would hit another fighter with his hands down , mike tyson when he knew his fighter opponent had a chance to beat him. i know victor ortiz would have had a big chance because look what he did to andre berto, but the chicken mayweather knocked him out with his hands completely in down position. i don’t think he will be able to do that against robert guerrero , u just watch how guerrero will knock him out. please let everyone hear this, miguel cotto made him bleed , just watch what guerrero will do to him. God bless

Posted January 8, 2013  


MasterChef

The same guys Paul Williams. magarito etc. are irrelevant to boxing while Floyd is still on top I forgot we live in a age of casual fans. Mp doesn’t like random blood test but because arum thinks Marquez is on PEDS like MP and both Mosley lol but couldn’t give Floyd the test. Arum is just in happy that if Floyd and manny fight the split will be about 70/30 or even 80/20 and arum doesn’t cash in as if it was MP Marquez fight.

Posted January 8, 2013  


MasterChef

Why does every boxing fan want to down size Floyd’s accomplishments. Floyd has beat a number of good fighters in his era. If manny P. is so great why is he fighting Floyd’s clean ups? And people really want to argue that MP did a better job?. To different fighting styles. But the same result a W for both. Floyd and Oscar were both on there 30’s closer in age than MP and Oscar and MP gets so much praise for beating a fighter that’s like 37 when he is a fresh 30 so to the guy that said Floyd faught a old ODH, he wasn’t to old for Floyd right lol smh. Also manny faught Sugar after Floyd?.. And hatton but there incradable wins. Not to mention fights cotto and margarito and ODH at Cathwieghts lol are you serious? Manny is whacking guys that are fighting almost two divisions down and hydrating up and he’s a great? Oh wait but when Floyd beats Marquez at a Cathwieght he was to big right? But manny can drain the life out of fighters? Smh again. Also you guys want Floyd to fight the likes of Martinez Hopkins etc. thats not Floyd’s wieght! Oh but I forgot if he fights Martinez at 154 and Floyd beats him it was because Floyd drained him?lol But you want Floyd to gain up to 160 and lose speed? People trip me out get to now boxing before saying outrageous things. And as far as Miguel cotto goes do your hw young boy, Cotto is younger than Floyd so why does it matter if he was in he’s prime Floyd was like 34 and cotto 29 or 30 so…. Would manny fight cotto or margarito without them having to drain themselves for wieght he’ll naw. Also Mp would crumble fighting a counter puncher as shown against Marquez. Floyd would have a field day with the little man lunging in with punches and leaving himself open.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Pugilistic_Professor

Floyd is my favorite current fighter, but he would be undersized against all but Duran, and being that lightweight Duran is one of the most dominant forces in the history of the sport, I would be hard pressed to pick Mayweather over Duran. Hearns would be too rangy, Hagler would be too strong and Leonard would be the only fight that Mayweather could, not would, but could win more than 5/10 fights.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

All of the haters views are assumptions. You are assuming a lot of things that most of the time don’t make sence. There are clear facts that anyone can’t deny like Pacquiao was taken out in the most embarassing manner possible.

Posted January 8, 2013  


al bundy

ALL FOUR OF THESE GUYS WOULD OF WIPED THE FLOOR WITH MANNY(I WAS NEARLY KILLED BY MARQUEZ)PACQUIAO….OH ITS TRUE ITS DAM TRUE!!!!!!!! VIVA LA MARQUEZ

Posted January 8, 2013  


Sasa05

There is so much wrong here. First hagler spent his entire career at mid so he’d be to big. The only fight he could win would be duran. Which i think would be like a cotto fight with floyd fighting on the defence and winning on speed. Srl it would depend what era. A welterweight srl would throw so many punches he’d win by late stoppage in a hard fight , any other sugar ray would find things easier plus floyd wouldn’t get the luck srl was the 80’s big name and often got a dodgy decision against the others on the list. And floyd be perfect the hitman with his reach which he did use and his power would give floyd a early night. Floyd is great but these guys were bigger and tougher and any1 he has faced.

Posted January 8, 2013  


charlie

Mayweather would have ducked every one of those fighters, as any of them would have kicked his fraud backside.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Danny

Yeah may weather would have made things difficult for these greats. He would have stunk the place out. I would like to have seen floyd fight junior witter. That would have been one hell of a fight.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

Aayweather the great. He will be the subject of discussion long after he is gone. An amazing gifted athlete.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

Never like Pacquiao you fellows. They had to wake up Pacquiao using smelling salts. Pacquiao’s KO was outsatanding.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Tom Drury

As the writer of this article, again i think fans have mis-understood, i am not comparing i am merely giving my opinion as to what i think would happen if these dream match-ups had ever took place, obviously thats never going to happen as Mayweather is from a totally different era. Also Sugar Ray Robinson is in my opinion the best fighter to ever live (period), but he is not from the era i am referring to. Mayweather could hold his own in that fantastic four era no doubt, would he be undefeated? NO!. I am a Floyd fan and my articles refer to him because he is the best fighter of this era by far.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Pacman

3 words Sugar Ray Robinson!!#p4p#king

Posted January 8, 2013  


Geoff

@MuayThai… As you say, in those days the greats fought all the other great fighters of the time, not like nowadays. Now they avoid them if possible.
Duran fought Benitez, Palamino, Hearns, Buchanen, Camacho, de Jesus 3x, Iran Barclay, Gimenez, Hagler, Cuevas and Leonard 2x.
How many on Mayweather’s – or Pacquiao’s – list can compare with these fighters? None?
I seem to recall that Duran thought Buchanen was the best of them all, although don’t quote me on that…

Posted January 8, 2013  


Resist N Smoke!

Funny how people call Floyd a “smart business man” , well that is how they excuse his ducking anyways.

Lets see , if Floyd is a “smart business man” why did 50 cent give Floyd the 40 million that Floyd offered to Pacquiao? Why does Floyd owe Don King half a million dollars?

Why would he have to borrow half a million? WTF

Wonder how much Floyd lost in law suits and settling court cases?

Wonder how much Floyd spent on his wife that 50 was tapping? (oh common we know 50 was)

50 cent- ” the thing Floyd need to understand is that you rent a hoe, you cant buy a hoe”

“business man” getting pimped by an ugly skank hoe.

Floyd aint no smart business man, hes a buster, always coming back to fight for money, because his self esteem is low, he has no real friends, his family is dysfunctional , and everything he has is bought.

The problem is Floydie Maynever spends faster than the rate he fights at, throwing 60 thousand dollars in tips at a strip club WTF!

Pacquiao on the other hand , loves him self, is loved by his functional family, is devoted to god, and has en entire country that will always love him dearly, plus has mad mad mad money!!

Floydie the dummy, who will be remembered as the broke coward 10 years from now.

Pacquiao remembered as a true legendary champ, who took risk, fought the best, never avoided anyone and won some and loss some like all of the greats. …….

Posted January 8, 2013  


Geoff

I agree with a lot of what Tom says here. Some of the arguments are very similar to comments I have written myself in recent posts. There are a few things I’d like to mention however…
Out of the 4 great former boxers mentioned it wasn’t Duran who had the iron chin; it was Hagler. Hearns hit him with everything he had in their 3 rounds together and Hagler just shook it off. Duran never stood a chance and got KO’d (don’t forget, Duran was really a blown up Lightweight). Hearns put Leonard down as well I think, maybe twice! My guess is that Hearns, with his 6″ reach and 5″ height advantage, would KO Mayweather within a couple of rounds.
Also SRL was a very versatile fighter; he could change styles to fit the opponent. Back-off against Hagler (I think he lost their fight by the way) and persue Hearns. He fought 2 different styles against Duran; the first disastrous, the second successful. I think Leonard would have figured Mayweather out. Once he realised that Mayweather couldn’t hurt him he could take the risks necessary.
Duran would have been the ideal opponent for Mayweather, although it would have gone the distance.
Mayweather-Hagler is the most difficult to predict. Mayweather couldn’t hurt Hagler, that’s obvious, Hagler was as hard as nails. But you can only run so far and for so long. I think Hagler would have caught up with him eventually, like he did with so many other very good fighters.
My results: Mayweather beats Duran but loses to Leonard, Hearns and Hagler.
By the way: I think Pacquiao would have lost to all 4 of them. But then, like Duran, Pacquiao’s not really a Welterweight at all, but a blown up Flyweight. It’s a wonder that he can stay in the ring with these naturally much bigger fighters.

@Foreal says…How does a legend get knocked out silly for minutes in a comma? Which other legend was ever KOed like that?
A quick answer is Roberto Duran, an undisputed all-time-great, who got flattened by Thomas Hearns. Tyson got KO’d as well: did that suddenly make him a fighter with a bad record?

Posted January 8, 2013  


Resist N Smoke

@Foreal

What makes you think that Morales and Floyd met at 130 that Morales would not beat Maynever?

Morales towards the end of his career handed a hard punching , super fast, Pacquiao in his prime a loss, by boxing him brilliantly,

Morales is not a brawler, but a boxer who was damn damn good.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

@Jak Laur

hahaaaa…..Can you discuss Pacquiao in the same breath? Win or lose? Pacquiao would have been an assured loss.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Kenneth lloyd

Floyd fought Marque at a catchweight of 144 pounds. When he fought Zab and Oscar I did not hear of Olympic style testing

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

Pacquiao has the habit of fighting the same fighters over and over. On his resunme, they think Moralles makes the difference and they think Moralles could have beaten Floyd? Small stupid brains.

Posted January 8, 2013  


my suzie “q”

you can see how stupid pinoys are & im telling you they really believe all the things they say. They also believe & this includes my wife who is a professor that there is a race of very very tiny people that live under ground & come up & steal things so if something goes missing they think the little people underground took them ha ha its true. & they believe that there are women who can walk down the street just a quick glance into your eyes & you are hypnotised & they can take you home & to the bank & take all your money & they believe that because some of these stupid men who had some money & flaunted it on a woman who then dumped him but is to ashamed to say that so he says he was hypnotised by the woman & forced to give it away & im telling you thats the truth.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Propos

And don’t act like he ain’t try an get cotto to fight him over an over an over .i can respect cotto for going after a up an coming killer win or lose and just like Floyd cotto fought somebody who was Nona rise and not on the decline an challenged his self like Floyd said cottos a true warrior

Posted January 8, 2013  


Propos

U forgot to mention all them gift desicions PAC got and all them catch weights he had and let’s not even get on him recycling fighters I mean the only time u fight the same fighter is if it was unclear who won and Floyd only had to fight a fighter over once PAC had to do 3 diff fighters 10 times 3+3+4=10 bout to be 11 I mean come on?this guy has spent half his good prime years wasted when he could have had classics by all we lelf with is a bunch of what ifs

Posted January 8, 2013  


james

foreal…thats why im trying to tell these fools if pac is a legend so are the two fly’s that knocked him out at flyweight, they are the new pound for pound kings lol no.1 r.torrecampo no.2 m.singsongorwhat lol

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

How does a legend get knocked out silly for minutes in a comma? Which other legend was ever KOed like that?

Posted January 8, 2013  


TScheckler

Floyd will be remebered along the greats! Kentucky Fried Chicken, Popeyes Chicken, Church’s Chicken and of course, Tyson brand chicken! Lol

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

Eman is an embacile.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

You are really going into depression after denial. Pacquiao erased all he acheived under the influence and with catch weights. Do you think Moralles could have ever beaten Mayweather? Go to sleep or take your medication.

Posted January 8, 2013  


james

eman….the scare coward during those times in the middle of the street….hahahahaha what the hell does that mean? its scared not scare, learn english, if someone is afraid they are scared not scare

Posted January 8, 2013  


TheTruth

Why compare those legends to that guy? He’s no where close , these guys didn’t run from the best they faced the best. Boxing was plain and simple back then. If Jose Luis Castillo beat Mayweather I think all of these four would easily beat him. In fact why didn’t you throw Chavez in there? Lol he would destroy Mayweather.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Truthurts

CATCHWEIGHTS is the same of not doing DRUG TESTS !!!

pactards still crying ???? get a life

Posted January 8, 2013  


Pollo loco

U know why mayweather wouldn’t beat these guys because he would never fight them. He would be to scared.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Resist N Smoke

Pacquiao will always be a better champion than Floyd.

He has names like

Barrera KO
Barrera UD
Morales LOST
Morales KO
Morales TKO
Marquez 1 (draw)
Marquez 2 UD
MArquez 3 UD
Marquez 4 LOST BY KO
Cotto KO
Hatton KO 2nd round (after Floyd)
Timothy Bradley (decision WIn but was robbed)
Antonio Margarito UD
Mosley UD (after Floyd)
Oscar De La Hoya KO (after Floyd)
33-0 Jorge Solis
Joshua Clottey (joke fight)

etc etc

Floyd Maynever

Coralles KO
HattonKO
Shane Mosley UD
Oscar De la Hoya UD (more like a draw or 1 point win against a old fighter)
Castillo (lost gift decision)
Castillo 2 (won by UD)
Zab Judah UD
Victor Ortiz (KO Sucker punch) LOL
Marquez UD (after Pacquiao)
Cotto UD (after Pacquiao)

Enough said

Posted January 8, 2013  


montez

He would have been beaten silly by guys like that back when there was alot of great fighters who would fight anyone. not like now fight once a year and think your the best. Fighting washed up fighters and nobodys.

Posted January 8, 2013  


crystalclear

this article is a shameless comparison … these fighters are NOT cowards, duckers and cherrypickers … regardless, all these fighters are fast and hard punchers and floyd’s chin will not take it … again and again, no fight all talk for floyd .. sick of it

Posted January 8, 2013  


EMAN

To be the best, you must surpass the fete of the 8 division champ with 10 titles, 3x Fighter of the year (with back to back) and 2x fighter of the decade…

…get it done, and make it faster…

…father time is coming…

Posted January 8, 2013  


Truthurts

people dont understand that times are differents , in the old times fighters fought whoever and didnt care bout steroids or receiving so much punishment the best example ali , my point that they are the all time great but the didnt think bout their health just to give their fans all the fights and to make money , the fact is that floyd has take care of himself in that aspect cause he is the best of this era period , PACQUIAO always have ducked RANDOM BLOOD URINE TESTS , he tried to make the fight happen but PACQUIAO didnt want to , then was that he wanted 50 50 split come on , only the BLINDED PACQUIAO will defend at all costs their fighter , MARQUEZ is more of a boxer than PACQUIAO ,PACQUIAO is a BRAWLER thats all , tell me bout skills he only has offense
however PACQUIAO has been KO before by TORRECAMPO and SINGSURAT , with MARQUEZ he only has won one fight MARQUEZ got robbed clearly their 3rd fight is the best and widely exaple of it , MARQUEZ is better than PACQUIAO , and MAYWEATHER is above them recognize it

Posted January 8, 2013  


EMAN

Floyd Mayweather retired himslef to avoid a possible confrontation with the Pacman…

…there’s no one else but Pacquiao and the scare coward during those times in the middle of the street…

…retirement is the best option for Floyd to justify his refusal to fight Pacman…

…logic, man…

…don’t fool the real boxing fan…

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

I am truly blessed to live in this era. I have witnessed a genious first hand. One day I will seat with my grand children and tell them about Floyd Mayweather Jnr the same way we read about other geniouses like Einstein and Mendelev and Newton and…..

Posted January 8, 2013  


TScheckler

Oh i forgot to mention figther of the decade award. But dont u worry Floyd, im sure if Col. Sanders is alive today hell say, “Floyd, i dont care what everybody says, you are the greatest chicken of all time”. ;D

Posted January 8, 2013  


EMAN

Someone down here did not get the message of the title of this article..

his comprehensive ability is below average

…and he’s emotional …

…cannot accept the fact that Pacquiao and the greatest paralleled and patterned perfectly in history of boxing….

Posted January 8, 2013  


jason323

Duran would have been the harder fight

Posted January 8, 2013  


TScheckler

Lol dude keeps reassuring himself of how good Floyd is.. How come floyd is not named 8 divison world champ? Have multiple fighter of the year awards? Endorsements? Heck even uncle cant get one trainer of the year award lol

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

Floyd will continue to beat em up. Guerrero, Canelo will all fall. Pacquiao will continue from where he left moping the canvas from the right corner to the left corner.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

The funny thing is that you can’t discuss Pacquiao in the same breath. Pacquiao would have been wired by all of them including Charvez Snr.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Darren

Hagler was never a welterweight

Posted January 8, 2013  


EMAN

Pacquiao and the Greatest…

Posted January 8, 2013  


EMAN

Those fantastic 4 boxers did not retire to avoid a potential beater…

Mayweather sent into retirement by Pacquiao without beating him…

Posted January 8, 2013  


james

dude why are you crying about marquez? this article isnt about him, and yes he is an unbelievable fighter, and yes you can look it up floyd mayweather has said it many times, marquez is an unbelievable fighter

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

Is this a comment or an article itself?

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

@Resist N Smoke

You are better off writing articles. Who will read through all this junk for a comment?

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

@Resist N Smoke

Please, keep em short and precise. I suggest you start writing articles.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Resist N Smoke

Marquez is a B+ fighter? GET THE *** OUT HERE!

Marquez is a legend, and ranks among the top 30 boxers of all time.

If Marquez was a B+ fighter why did Floyd need to come in heavy? I always make this remark and NOT ONE FLOYD FAN CAN GIVE ME A STRAIGHT ANSWER.

COMMON FLOYD FANS ANSWER ME THIS

When has Floyd not made weight for a fight?

When has “Money” a guy who brags about not losing a dollar, about making millions, about fighting for money, and not glory, when has he ever payed 300,000 per pound? A TOTAL OF OVER HALF A MILLION FOR NOT MAKING WEIGHT!

See you guys are all busters, i bet no one responds to me, because there is no answer for that.

Floyd is a professional athlete who prides him self of always being in top shape, of always being in the gym, always being active.

He claims, he came out of retirement because the “B + Marquez” called him out.

Yet other fighters, for years have been and continue to call him out, yet he never mentions there name.

He comes out of retirement, claiming he never stopped going to the gym, never stopped working out, to face a guy jumping up 2 weight classes, to take on the best p4p in that division, and wont even compromise on a catch weight of 144 pounds.

He disses Pacquiao for making bigger guys come down in weight to face him, yet he wont even give up 3 pounds , 3 puny little pounds, to Marquez advantage, they have resign the contracts a day before the fight. He finally agrees to 144, and still breaks the rules by coming in at 146, and refuses to step on the unofficial scale, yet he was always willing to step on the unofficial scale vs bigger opponents, to prove he was the smaller fighter, but against a smaller fighter he refuses to step on the scale to prove how much bigger he was than the “b+” Marquez.

If Floyd was unable to finish off a ” B + Marquez” who had just jumped up 2 weight classes for the first time, what does that make Floyd?

A B – welter weight beating up a B
+ light weight?

Plus little tiny Marquez had the balls to do what Floyd still has not done, which is put Pacquiao to sleep, forever!

hahaha…..sorry Floydie you lost you 100 million dollar fight, because a small Mexican knocked out the man you been runing from.

hows that for B+

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

Floyd is just phenominal. The check-hook, the upper body movement, the way he covers his abdomen using his elbows, the way he uses his sholders to smoothen the punches, his hand speed, his right leads……..come on guys, what else should flesh and blood do to impress?…….Steroids?

Posted January 8, 2013  


james

i ment im not saying i think he would win, but he would go the distance

Posted January 8, 2013  


james

can someone please explain why, if floyd mayweather senior went the distance with sugar ray leonard and lost a decision but was never knocked down, why then cant floyd jr? it seems people dont even remember that floyd sr went the distance with sugar ray, i guess you wouldnt know if you started watching boxing in 2008…lol im saying i think he would win, but he would go the distance if his dad did.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

Ok, just one question….can we talk of Pacquiao in the same breath?

Posted January 8, 2013  


Tony

Sorry, sorry, sorry…. There is not reason to compare this fighters by any means with Mayweather. When you relax with your friends drinking a cup of coffee or having a glass of wine smoking a good cigar or just having a cold beer and the conversation refers to great boxing champions Mr Money Mayweather doesn’t belong n the conversation sorry but if he is mentioned it will sour the moment. You have to understand that Hagler, Hearns, Duran and Leonard are part of boxing gold history, Mayweather does not belongs and will not belong in that room. His fights are not memorable, don’t have the spark, don’t make u talk about it. Sorry but, when we in the future talk about Mr Money we won’t be talking about his fights but, yes maybe about how much money he made and how much money He spend not only on his luxuries and flashy life we also will be talking about how much money he spend on payroll paying boxing writers to be mention on a daly basis. Lest talk about the real p4p king Mr heavy weight wladimir klitschko He holds all the belts but one, he is a true champ in and out f the ring (Phd) what else can you ask for at least as an example to the new generation of young boxers. Hagler -Leonard-Duran-Tommy Hearns as I said golden history … Mayweather, De La Hoya, Whittaker,Prince Hamed, Hopkins, Camacho and many more great great boxers but NOT golden history.

Ciao.

Posted January 8, 2013  


simon

his name is not worthy to be arranged to be equal with DURAN, HAGLER, HEARNS AND LEONARD.

Posted January 8, 2013  


martinez

there are only two ways in which floyd would win against these four greats
1) wait until they’re way past their prime.
2) catch them with sucker punch

Posted January 8, 2013  


boxingringfan

wrong analysis man….no way hearns beat mayweather….it would be like the diego coralles vs floyd except hearns would be more competetive…after what sugar ray did to hearns…hearns could not beat mayweather….go watch all the fights of those 4 guys on youtube and watch all mayweather fights….long arms mean nothing when you dont truly have the skills behind it..dont get me wrong hearns had good skills but not great skills despite emanuel stewart being in his corner…the only one out of those 4 that i feel could beat floyd from years of watching fights is sugar ray leonard…..remember leonard also beat the other 3 hagler , hearns and duran quite easily……leonard vs floyd is a fantastic fight and really a toss up….

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

Pacquiao would have beaten them all…!!!!! heheeeehooooheheeeee!

Posted January 8, 2013  


Adrien

Look if you don’t like Pacquiao fine. But there is simply no way you can dismiss Marquez as a B+ fighter…

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

If you want to really know where Floyd belongs, it is very simple to determine. The fact that you are even debating how he would have faired against the greats is reason enough. Tell me, how would have Pacquiao faired against the same fighters?

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

Pacquiao is not worth ducking, he is taken out by nonentities and then a B class fighter in Bradley and then a B+ fighter in Marquez. The problem is that Pacquiao raised his tail too high against the P4P great.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

There is one constant here…the truth, and it never changes with mud smearing. Floyd is a boxing great, and he has proven it time and again. He will always prove it until he retires.

Posted January 8, 2013  


SUGARRAY

I meant if floyd gets half as many fights as srr had KO’s

Posted January 8, 2013  


Jeff41

Pointless to discuss whether Floyd would be able to compete with those four. You’d never know it, cuz Floyd would duck them all, the way he ducked PAcquiao and Martinez and other elite fighters at their prime.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Foreal

This is foolishness. How can you know who would have won Tyson or Ali?

Posted January 8, 2013  


SUGARRAY

Sugar ray robinson was greatest fighter of all time. He fought so often and wasn’t afraid to go against the best unlike mayweather who ducks and fights once a yr to preserve his O. He went up to 128 wins with only 1 lose and 1 draw before he starting losing. He had 108 KO’s and floyd says he is greater. If floyd gets half as many pro fights as sugar ray robinson had fights I would be suprised. FLOYD’s the GCOAT. Greatest Coward Of All Time

Posted January 8, 2013  


fighter

these four are greats in and out if the ring…ambassadors of our sport, hah remember what money may did to victor???!! hah cmon now floyd.. i wonder what woudv hapned if they continue the fight, money may would i think ud him but i am certain victor would bust him up badly… coz victor on that round was landing powerpunches that suprise money landing a SUCKER PUNCH!

Posted January 8, 2013  


TScheckler

Everyone mentioned on his greats list fought the best in their era except for one –
Kentucky Floyd Chicken.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Ben Gurion

THERE IS TRUTH TO RUMORS THAT FLOYD MAYWEATHER HAS MILLIONS OF PROPAGANDISTS. IT KEEPS GROWING TO THIS MINUTE CONVINCING BOXING FANS IN WRONG PERSPECTIVE.

Posted January 8, 2013  


Anonymous

Lol…Floyd will go down in history as a Scared champion……

Posted January 8, 2013  


Adrien

Well wait, wait wait, all of those fighters are still alive…let’s bring them back and see what they can do against Mayweather today. Duran might have trouble making weight though.

Posted January 7, 2013  


i need a mexican to sell my fights

To be the best you have to fight the best, Mayweather falls short.
Guerroro next, lightweight
Cotto destroyed by PAC and MargARITO Damaged goods
Mosley past his prime.( He beat a Margarito without bricks so did cotto, and PAC)
vICTOR Ortiz LOL
Marquez went up two weights to meet Mayweather at a catch weight of 144. May didn’t make it had to redo the contract and go up to 147 day before fight!!
Mayweather is a good fighter but not the best of all time!!
He knows it that’s why he is fighting Guerrero next!!

Posted January 7, 2013  


Alucard 400

it’s unfair to compare Floyd to all those guys. he plain and simple is not that tough. all of them had their moments of brawling, Floyd could never do that.
he would try to win on points, but i doubt it would have worked all the time.

it was an era Floyd would have never taken part of, he probably would have retired until those guys faded.

Posted January 7, 2013  


i need a mexican to sell my fights

Mayweather would have wanted random blood testing, and all the PPV money to make the fights. In other words he would have avoided them like he avoids PAC, Canelo, Martinez yes he will come down to 154, and GGG also willing to come down to 154.
Like he avoided Margarito, Paul Williams

Posted January 7, 2013  


Downing Street

I believe that Floyd could beat Duran because when Duran was in his prime he lost a unanimous decision to Esteban DeJesus. DeJesus was a very good boxer but not a great fighter and yet not only did he beat Duran but he also knocked him down.As for Leonard , it depends on what version of Sugar Ray Leonard , Floyd would face .If he fought the young inexperienced Leonard who lost to Duran in Montreal then I give Floyd a good shot at beating him.However ,if he fought the prime more mature Leonard who kayoed Thomas Hearns no Floyd cannot beat this version of Sugar Ray.The only boxer to ever beat Hearns at 147 is a prime Leonard,all of the Motor City Cobra`s other losses was to bigger boxers as he moved up in weight,Floyd could not beat Hearns.Hagler is too big ,too strong and in addition he knew how to fight a counterpuncher.Floyd would stand a better chance running through hell with gasoline drawers on than beating Hagler.

Posted January 7, 2013  


Truthurts

people who dont know sh it bout boxing watch mayweather fights all of them , then you can talk

Posted January 7, 2013  


$ugar

pointless topic because he would have ducked them all.

Posted January 7, 2013  


Joe

You don’t have to go that far with those great fighters.just live at at there prime fighters likes winky wright,Vernon forest,oscar de la hoya,shane Mosley and even paul Williams but my respect to wright the undisputed champ.

Posted January 7, 2013  


james

hagler was a middleweight so forget that, one factor is who is better? floyd SR or JR? bcs SR went the distance with sugar ray leonard and lost a decision,and i think most people believe that floyd jr is better than sr, so if his dad went the distance with ray leonard i think floyd jr could to

Posted January 7, 2013  


whatajoke

agree with this article. i think mayweather can beat all except hearns!

Posted January 7, 2013  


Ben Gurion

IT REALLY MAKES ME LAUGH AFTER READING THE ARTICLE OF TOM DRURY. THE FOUR MENTIONED BOXERS ARE TRULY SEASONED AND GREAT FIGHTERS. FLOYD MAYWEATHER IS FAR BEHIND. IT IS BETWEEN THE THE MOON AND THE EARTH WHEN IT COMES TO BRAVERY, TENACITY AND RING GENERALSHIP. HOW CAN ANYONE COMPARE FLOYD MAYWEATHER WITH THOSE GREAT AND FEARLESS FIGHTERS? PLEASE READ BELOW AND FIND THE BIG DISPARITY AND THEN KEEP IMAGINING.

FLOYD MAYWEATHER IS JUST A BIG NAME IN BOXING. I SEE NO GREATNESS IN THIS FIGHTER OTHER THAN HIS UNDEFEATED RECORD. CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING:

1. MAYWEATHER FIGHTS ONCE A YEAR SINCE COMING BACK FROM RETIREMENT.
2. A BORING FIGHTER IN THE RING.
3. NOT EXCITING FIGHTER.
4. BOUT RESULTS ARE NOT IMPRESSIVE AND CONVINCING.
5. SELECTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO OPPONENT.
6. NEVER FIGHT IF THERE IS RISK FACTOR.
7. GIVING RULES, DEMANDS SOMETHING ADVANTAGEOUS & OTHER CONDITIONS BEFORE HE FIGHTS.

Posted January 7, 2013  


Resist N Smoke

@Tom Drury

YOU ARE A DELUSIONAL, MAYNEVER FAN!

I cant even believe you woult put maynever in the category of those great fighters. What in the world makes you think Floyd could handle these guys?

Floyd was severely rocked by an old Shane Mosley, dropped by Zab Judah, couldent even dominate an over the hill ODLH, could not finish a smaller Marquez jumping up 2 weight classes, Marquez looked as clean as when he walked in the ring. A beat up damaged cotto left Floyd bloodied, what do u think a stronger hagler would do? or a stronger duran? Cotto is not even in Duran or Haglers league.

And you think Maynever could hang with Leonard, Hagler, Duran?

Wow……totally delusional maynever nuth

Posted January 7, 2013  


The Truth

One word: CRAP.

Posted January 7, 2013  


smooth

pick a better topic

Posted January 7, 2013  


chipster

I`M NOT A FLOYD MAYWEATHER FAN, BUT I ADMIT HE IS A VERY TALENTED FIGHTER, HE`S GOT A GREAT DEFENCE AND FAST HANDS, AND AGAINST OLDER OR SLOWER OPPONENTS HE LOOKS A CLASS ABOVE. BUT FACED WITH AN OPPONENT WHO HAS EQUAL SPEED AND SKILL AND A BIGGER PUNCH, HOW WOULD HE COPE? HE WOULD`NT WIN A ROUND THROWING SAY 30 PUNCHES AGAINST TOMMY HEARNS OR RAY LEONARD..COS RAY COULD THROW THAT MANY IN A COUPLE OF COMBINATIONS AS COULD TOMMY..AND THEY HAD KNOCKOUT POWER IN THEM. FLOYD`S LUCKY THAT HE WAS`NT AT 147LB WHEN OSCAR DE LA HOYA AND THE GANG WERE ALL IN THEIR MID 20`S, COS THAT WAS A GOLDEN ERA, AND A VERY TOUGH ERA IN WHICH LEONARD, HEARNS AND DURAN WOULD`VE HAD SOME VERY HARD FIGHTS. I ALSO THINK MAYWEATHER WOULD COME UP SHORT AGAINST HIS HEROES AARON PRYOR AND PERNELL WHITAKER.

Posted January 7, 2013  


Kenneth lloyd

Has Mayweather ever considered fighting at middleweight.

Posted January 7, 2013  


Jay

I’m pretty sure someone caught this by now, but Hagler was a Middle Weight

Posted January 7, 2013  


chipster

I AGREE WITH MY SUZIE “q” , SUGAR RAY ROBINSON IS THE GREATEST FIGHTER OF ALL TIME, AND HE`S TOP OF MY LIST. NO DISRESPECT TO THE FIGHTERS FROM THIS ERA, BUT ROBINSON WOULD`VE FOUGHT MAYWEATHER, PACMAN, MARQUEZ, COTTO, BRADLEY, ALVAREZ, GUERERRO, TROUT MARTINEZ ,CHAVEZ jr, WARD AND FROCH IN ONE YEAR!! AND WOULD NO DOUBT BEAT THEM ALL, BUT IF HE LOST ONE, HE`D HAVE A REMATCH AND WIN. MUHAMMAD ALI AND SUGAR RAY LEONARD IDOLISE HIM..THAT SAYS IT ALL.

Posted January 7, 2013  


arealboxingfan

I only think he would beat duran just cause of movement. and he was easy to frustrate. but everybody else on that list might do knock him out. but people need to know sugar ray was the first catch eight king and he made sure he had all the advantage in his fights hagler n sugar ray fight was way past haggler prime auger ray ducked him all the way until he was going to retire.

Posted January 7, 2013  


my suzie “q”

sorry guys i didnt give my assessment on the fights, well as i said forget marvin haler as he wasnt a welterweight but the other 3 would have beaten him. Hears & duran would have ko’d mayweather & leonard would have beaten him on points & possibly stopped him but an easy points victory. Hearns well mayweather could have rolled his shoulder & hearns would have punched a hole through it. & i also think hearns would have beaten hagler & leonard if he had boxed them instead of trying to ko them. His heart ruled his head .

Posted January 7, 2013  


2nd Opinion

Ooo.. I forgot PBF!! Total Package!!

Posted January 7, 2013  


2nd Opinion

All of these fighters named… was great fighters,boxers in their own uneek way… The Killer in Hagler.. The Stalking you down of Duran… The Hit Man just had that East Side of Detroit in him!!! Do or Die… Leonard was just a smooth Assassin…

Posted January 7, 2013  


da;Loopster

@ Kingjiwane WOW i concur wit U They” are idiots! Cuz all them Gr8’S never had & excuse to not fight each other! LIKE that Scareweather!!!YA TU SABE”””

Posted January 7, 2013  


Clint

I agree with author. Decent assessment.

Posted January 7, 2013  


greysymphony

Lmao. Lol. Oh my god. Theirs plenty of talent. Martinez. Pacquiao. Their was Williams. Cotto in his prime. Margarito which he ducked. Austin trout. Saul Alvarez. How did he best the best? Best guys he’s beat we’re past their prime. ODLH and Cotto were done.

Posted January 7, 2013  


Starky

I know you’ve written this article to spark controversy but come on Leonard loses to mayweather?? Leonard had it all he could fight box his hand speed is far superior to mayweathers and he wouldn’t be standing still or right infront of mayweather like his last 5 opponents. Hagler would have beat him and so would hearns, the only one I’m in agreement is with Duran who’s aggressive style was tailor made for mayweather.

Posted January 7, 2013  


my suzie “q”

first off your mistake in talking about hagler. Hagler was never a welterweight, he was always a middleweight so you cant compare him. Now i dont see why you didnt mention sugar ray robinson as he fought many fights at welterweight & he is probably the greatesr pound for pound fighter the world has ever seen & he will never be eclipsed from now onwards as they fight 12 rounds now yet he fought 15 round title fights & he had over 200 professional fights. He fought from 1940 to 1965. If you guys havent seen him in action look him up on you tube, you will be amased at how good he is. he didnt have a weakness but he could find your weaknesses Just brilliant is the only words to describe him

Posted January 7, 2013  


chipster

IT WOULD`NT BE FAIR TO FEED MAYWEATHER TO A PEAK MARVIN HAGLER, FOR A START MARVIN WAS A FULL MIDDLEWEIGHT ,A SOUTHPAW, WITH A HARD ACCURATE LONG JAB, GOOD FOOTWORK, HIGH GUARD, GOOD POWER AND A GRANITE CHIN..AND A YOUNG MARVIN WAS EVEN MORE RELENTLESS AND WOULD HUNT FLOYD DOWN AND SHRUG OFF WHATEVER FLOYD THREW AT HIM. MARVIN BY KO AROUND THE 6TH. TOMMY HEARNS WOULD BE TOO TALL TOO FAST AND HIT TOO HARD FOR FLOYD..TOMMY IN 4TH. IF CASTILLO CAN PUSH FLOYD ALL THE WAY, A PEAK ROBERTO DURAN WOULD TERRORIZE HIM. DURAN LATE STOPPAGE. SUGAR RAY LEONARD IS BIGGER FASTER AND HITS ALOT HARDER, HE`S ALSO GOT A GRANITE CHIN..FLOYD GETS A BOXING LESSON THEN GETS KO`D IN 8TH.

Posted January 7, 2013  



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