hank

To answer wow’s question about the word megaER, yes it is a scientific word, at least to me. Pacquiao KO over mayweather, 4th round. And yes, i’m probably outta my fun’ mind. And so is mayweather.

Posted March 22, 2010 

Big Lo

@Joel,

Another poster on this thread made a good point about the attendance. As noted during the fight, the Texas scene was a big draw for fight lovers over the years. It doesn’t really matter who the star was, there probably would have been a big turnout.

Posted March 15, 2010 

JOEL

only 51,000 fans travelled to texas to see the pacman. i guess the steroids thing really diminished mannu’s popularity.

Posted March 15, 2010 

JOEL

and the floyd fans say he will do this and that to manny. easy to say when it hasn’t happened yet and probably won’t. only way to find out is to get floyd in the ring with manny but instead of convincing floyd to fight,his fans are covering for his cowardice. like idol like fans.

Posted March 15, 2010 

JOEL

and their excuse for the day is washed up? c-list fighter? weight-drained? steroids? and the winner is……. it’s a fix! these spin doctors will never quit.

Posted March 15, 2010 

jujuhound

It seemed that at some in the 2nd or 3rd round, Clottey’s legs went wobbly for a coupla seconds. Was that it, or was that Clottey doing a little jig to mock Pacquiao?

Manny’s defense leaves a lot to be desired. I know he was goading Clottey to let his hands go so that Manny’d have some opening, but Manny shouldn’t allow himself to be hit so much.

Posted March 15, 2010 

rat-a-too

not sure if this is true but heard pac made 14 millions last night and cottey made 3 +millions
but the crowd love and came to see manny .heard them chanting his name in the 9 rd.

Posted March 15, 2010 

LuvBoxing

I was spot on with my predictions that this would be a easy win for Manny. I was DEAD WRONG in my prediction that this would be a good fight and Clottey was for real. Clottey never showed up and is just counting his money at this point.

I was also right that Manny had no chance of a KO in this fight though. He never came close to knocking Clottey out and probably couldn’t have. In fact, I made some nice coin betting that Clottey would not get KO’d!!!

Boring fight but that was not Manny’s fault, it was Clotteys and Arums.

Posted March 15, 2010 

rat-a-too

I wonder if when mayweather do fight manny will he still be fighting so open ? keep his left hand at waist level and his right below his jaw. that means he have to duck and weave 1,200 punches. ha,a sure knock out,
pac jabbing was hitting well last night.a new thing to counter floyd jab.then when floyd right hand leads and gets crossed pac uppercutter will be waiting.

Posted March 15, 2010 

rat-a-too

what floyd dont understand is? the 40 million is for fighting in Dallas staduim only ,floyd refuse to fight their,as vagas dont have that kind of cash or seats, as the contract was 45,000 +seats = 40 million each.so why do he keep saying manny dont want that cash/fight. floyd also has to also give in to fighting manny at dallas staduim too if he wants 40 millions

Posted March 15, 2010 

rat-a-too

knew pac was going to fight cottey from a distance with jabs,he did just that when cottey counter pac duck back and counter a combination right back,he never gave the counter puncher a chance to counter. damm if only cottey open up pac could had have that knock out.the clam was protecting his face,not the face please,ha,a too defensive fighter never give his all.

Posted March 15, 2010 

Eli

@ preston.. you have a point my man. clottey probably in ghana now chatting ,, “were in the money” . lol

Posted March 15, 2010 

j

Pacquiao has fought two top solid welterweights something we have yet to see from mayweather.He deserves all the credit in the world.Clottey is not washed up like most people are gonna say pacquiao was just the better man enough said.Bring on pacquiao vs mayweather.

Posted March 14, 2010 

cody

ryan.
thanks good read,
your last comment about biased, not on this site
have you read lhars rubbish, i think you need to talk to him,
over six weeks of rubbish and then this rubbish,

ryan keep writing

Posted March 14, 2010 

goodgrief

@ ryan dunn
I read from one former comment that that mayweather talking about a-side-meth that soldiers uses to be invincible for bullets.I research on this a-side-meth and actually mayweather mispell a-side-meth. its “agimat” (ah-ghe-math) not a-side-meth. And its not a drug but a amulet or charm.What if paquiao agrees with random blood test. and mayweather will have another excuse about “agimat”? Could you please research and write about this i maybe wrong thanks

Posted March 14, 2010 

santiperes

The problem with fighters fighting Manny is that they have two choices. Its either cover up like Clottey did or go toe to toe like Diaz, Oscar, Hatton and Cotto did that resulted in them getting KTFO. Clottey was smart the moment he tasted Mannys power he clammed up and saved his record of never been KOed.

Posted March 14, 2010 

gard

@Butter,
You’re idol is trying to clean up the sport and here you are calling for a dive..a fix. Then why you still follow boxing?

Posted March 14, 2010 

Oli

I have watched the fight again, and i am sorry but there is just something not quite right. It stinks of a set up to me.

HOW can a fighter who in his last fight beat the hell out of miguel cotto, fail to win a single round? Clottey threw about 30 punches the entire fight and Pacquiaos face was swollen at the end, that tells its own story! When Clottey did throw he looked good and pac looked hassled. Clottey could have made this very interesting if he had wanted to. It was as if he got to the ring and decided I DONT WANT TO TRY TOO HARD

This was not the real Joshua Clottey, something is going on here. He could have done much better but he choses not to and only Joshua Clottey and Bob Arum know why.

Posted March 14, 2010 

preston

butter- c’mon man……there is no need to go there……Clottey was a 7-1 underdog, and he made it VERY clear that he was content to throw 4 punches to Pacquiao’s 30 because he thought that he would block and frustate Pac in doing so, and find an opening. Clottey did not do ANYTHING more than what was expected from him. Pac beats Clottey 10 out of 10 times based on his output alone. Clottey on his best day is not going to throw ANYWHERE near 500 punches in an entire fight, while Pac won’t even drop down that low in punches on his worse night. Pac beat Clottey fair and square, and there was nothing more or less than that.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Vince

There’s no way Pac landed 236 punches,maybe 175,but no way 236.

Posted March 14, 2010 

wowzabean

Now the fight was fixed? You guys are hilarious. Manny just makes fighters look bad, Floyd does the same thing. Everyone on here knows I’m not the biggest PBF fan, but if he wins a lop sided decision against Mosley (which I think he will) I’ll give him all the credit. I didn’t want to see Pac/Clottey or May/Mosley. There’s only one fight to see, Pacquiao/Mayweather, and if Floyd gets past his next bout, there should be no excuses from BOTH camps. The mega fight is only becoming megaER (real word?). Next up, Shane/Floyd, 24/7 starts my bday weekend.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Tray R

Clottey was twaty! This is a total set up for the Floyd, Manny fight! I thought Shane would go in there & give Floyd a helluva fight but this fight shows me he’s not. It’s all a set up. If Floyd & GBP want to clean up boxing it doesn’t start & end with PED’s they better give a good showing instead of this farce of a fight that we saw last night.

This is why everyone is turning to MMA & I don’t even like MMA. If Shane doesn’t at least give Floyd a run for his money I already have the tombstone ready “HERE LIES BOXING’S LAIRS BORN IN THE 1800′S DIED 5-1-10 FOR SETTING UP FIGHTS & THINKING ALL OF US ARE BUT WIPES & CAN’T SEE PAST THEIR GREED”!!

Posted March 14, 2010 

butter17

This fight was so fixed it’s a shame. Everybody knows what boxing is trying to do right now. Trying to set up the super mega fight between mayweather & pacquiao. Last night fight showed me what is going to happen in the mosley vs mayweather fight. Mosley is going to take a dive. Clotty is a way better fighter then he showed last night. He didn’t even try to fight… when he did, he landed some nice shots. For the most part… he did nothing but cover up. I wonder how much his payoff really was. I’m a mosley fan, but i expect mosley to do the same thing may 1.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Tray R

Clottey was twaty! This is a total set up for the Floyd, Manny fight! I thought Shane would go in there & give Floyd a helluva fight but this fight shows me he’s not. It’s all a set up. If Floyd & GBP want to clean up boxing it doesn’t start & end with PED’s they better give a good showing instead of this farce of a fight that we saw last night.

This is why everyone is turning to MMA & I don’t even like MMA. If Shane doesn’t at least give Floyd a run for his money I already have the tombstone ready “HERE LIES BOXING’S LAIRS BORN IN THE 1800′S DIED 5-1-10 FOR SETTING UP FIGHTS & THINKING ALL OF US BUT WIPES & CAN’T SEE PAST THEIR GREED”!!

Posted March 14, 2010 

gard

Manny Pacquiao will be fighting one or two more times,depending
on the outcome of the May 1 fight,it also depends on how soon
Valero come up to the WW or Jr.WW.

So enjoy why it last.We might not see another one like this!

Posted March 14, 2010 

armtheladnless

that fight was another reason why pac needs to stop being “scared” of a few drops of blood and fight mayweather.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Big Lo

Guys,

You all really need to stop with this nonsense about Pac not wanting to fight top guys and the top guys being scared to fight Pac.

Pac is a real fighter and will fight anybody (much like Mosley and Darchinyan ). Floyd can get away with not fighting Pac because he can make big money fighting anyone, but everyone else will make their biggest pay day with Pac (or Floyd).

IMO, if there is any funny business going on, it’s with Pac’s team (Arum and Roach). They are the ones who are shielding Pac.

Posted March 14, 2010 

James

No matter what you say againts Pacquiao, he is a winner, he will be paid millions, and so as Clottey will have his share, and you Pac haters, you don’t have millions of dollars, and you don’t have his fame, not even close!

Posted March 14, 2010 

preston

lolol……yeah Dave really put himself out on a limb with that one,

Posted March 14, 2010 

Helloooo!!!

Dave Lahr Prediction Before the Fights;”Clottey will rip into Pacquiao with his beak-like punches, tearing Pacquiao’s face apart and making him look like an hound dog that’s been sitting in the sun for too long. Pacquiao will quickly wilt under the heavy bombardment from Clottey, and just fall apart completely”.
…. Dave Lahr Where are You now? Why you Didnt write a article
about the Fights?

Posted March 14, 2010 

totoybato

Clottey was hurted ( body shots) and was scared that’s why he caccooned himself into that tight defense mode and same time also scared to be knock out. PACQUAIO haters always have excuses and say about him but you can take that away the fact that he’s the NO. # 1 P4P boxer right now.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Bruno

@ haku. yeah because they are all scared

Posted March 14, 2010 

Haku313

But once again Pacman beats another flat footed, stiff, unatheletic BUM!!!!! Nothing new for him, but he did what he had to do and what he shouldve done. But, dont get it twisted; Pacquiao WILL NOT beat Mayweather,Mosley, or Tim Bradley Jr,….. and you better beleive that!!!!! But well never find out cause Pacman will NEVER fight any of them.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Haku313

@WOWZABEEN

First, 50,000+ is impressive. However, what did you expect? 4 of the top 5 fights were in texas! whitaker vs chavez…c’mon man? How Many so called big fights come to Texas? So, of course theyre going to come out in masses. So, its not really about Pacman being just wildy popular. And to top it off it was the first Boxing event in the new stadium. So, lets not get carried away.

Posted March 14, 2010 

t3xA$ M@D3

Mayweather is the bes period!

Posted March 14, 2010 

DoWn-$oUtH

@ MANNY FANS I ain’t no Manny hater.I think he’s good.BUT he ain’t all around good cause he has no defense.MAYWEATHER is great cause he GOT GREAT defense,pinpoint counter punching, and he can mix it up on the inside.If Manny fights like that with mayweather alot of them punches finna hit AIR and just case yall don’t know hitting nothing is more tiring then making CONTACT.Plus we talking bout Mayweather who strikes back like a cobra. Go to youtube and look how fast his punches are.Don’t get me wrong manny is fast to but nowhere near mayweathers fast. BUT HE THROWS ALOT of more combos then Mayweather.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Oli

For all these 100 punches a round pacquiao threw id say he landed about 1. He couldnt hurtClottey if it had lasted 25 rounds. Clottey could have made this a real awful night for manny but for some strange reason he just didnt do it. It almost looked like he wasnt trying to win.

Or maybe im being harsh, it must be difficult to throw back when the P4P king is firing off rapid hard shots at you non stop. I just think Clottey is better than this. Something just seemed a bit fishy, too much respect

Posted March 14, 2010 

Adam churms

Congrats manny he did all that he could do bet clotteys ribs are sore today i dont think any1 wud look good against clottey
Im not even goin to comment on floyd he a waste of energy the bottlin egotistical ass

Posted March 14, 2010 

badasschicano

wowzabean, you are absolutely right about max.
i cannot believe he would say that about manny. max knows that manny will still not subject to mays request, so he is just trying to see if pac man would just take the test. thats called being desperate, and max made himself look bad.
may ducked pac man twice. one by comming out of retirement a few days before the pac man fight and the 2nd is the obvious, the start up of negotiations over testing. it is becomming more obvious about may. i will not pay to watch his fight. i will watch the fight the next day after i down load it for free….

Posted March 14, 2010 

THE GOLDEN FAN

Destroyed Clottey???? I don’t think so. It was Pacquiao who looked like he lost the fight. Pac did win convincingly by volume punching and pressure but he was far from destroying Clottey. I am a big Pacman fan but this fight really opened my eyes to reality. Pac will never defeat PBF at WW!! PBF will be too big too strong and too fast! I would consider PBF as strong as Clottey and much more elusive with lightning counter punches. The Pacwagon will end at the hands of PBF if this fight happens. Even though Pac has done well in WW, PBF will prove he does not belong there. Example, when Trinidad blew out Joppy in Five rounds for the MW title everyone thought he would blow away hopkins too and what happened? Hopkins showed him he didn’t belong at MW as simple as that. So if Pac-Mayweather happens put your money on Pretty Boy and you will profit from all the hype. FYI. I am not PBF fan and never will.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Jorge

Wowzaben,

Im not hating didnt say anything bad about Mr PAcquiao….
its not his fault Clottey didnt come out to fight.
You have two “Elite” fighters on May 1st not Pacquiao vs a Bum or against someone that’s just happy to be there.

Only thing that was impressive to me was the amount of punches Pacquiao threw. I’ve seen Pacdquiao spar agains Urbano Antillon and there sparring session was more exciting than this fight.

Everyone wants to see the May 1st fight because of the anticipation of Manny vs Floyd or Manny vs Mosley!
That there makes it ten times more exciting.

Pacquiao did look good against Punching Bag Clottey moving in angles, in and out going to the body!
he was litterally doing bag work on Clottey.

Anyways
there some good fights coming this month and APril!

Posted March 14, 2010 

wowzabean

Let’s get a couple of things straight before I watch the Cavs rape the Celtics. Firstly, Pacquiao is the most popular boxer in the world right now. This fact is inarguable. Secondly 51k fans came to see Pacquiao fight a no name. The third largest crowd in boxing history. 51k CAME TO WATCH PACQUIAO! Not Clottey, not Diaz, not Soto, not JLC, not Medina, not Gomez, Pacquiao. For a single man to draw so many people, speaks volumes. If Mayweather man’s up and fights in Dallas Stadium, they’d reach 70k+ people watching. You can’t hate the great, peace.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Manong Tagacebu

if joshua clottey’s chin was so powerful… then he should have taken some risks. His trainer was always telling him to take risks.

Posted March 14, 2010 

DoWn-$oUtH

No caps, Down South! This was your final warning.

Admin

Posted March 14, 2010 

wowzabean

jorge,

Wow hater. You think last nights fight was boring, and you’re looking forward to the May 1st bout? Sorry to disappoint you but May 1st will make last night’s fight look like Ali/Frazier. I want to see May/Mosley too, but it’s not exactly going to be exciting. The mathup is, the fight sadly, will not be.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Jorge

Bang, Bang, Bang….. there was nothing exciting about this fight or this “EVENT.”
There was no bad blood between the fighters, it looked as if Clottey was just there to get paid.
These guys couldnt even stare each other down without laughing at the weight in.
The fight was more like a sparring session! They tapped gloves before the rounds and tapped gloves after every round… I know you have to respect your opponent but it doesnt mean you have to like him. You get paid millions to fight, to take a risk its your profession to go out there and put it all on the line. Clottey failed to go out there and do a good job, he had nothing to lose. To be out punched by 832 punches is unheard of in a championship fight.
The most exciting part in the fight was in the 8th round with like 40 seconds to go where Jim Lampley got so frustrated at Clottey that he started screaming “Bang, Bang, Bang, three for punch combinations Bang, Bang, Bang, try to stop me Bang, Bang, Bang, LOL” That will tell you something about the fight and Clottey never in my life have i heard a commentator just get fired up like that. Not because Pacquiao was doing a great job it was because Clottey wasnt doing a damn thing.

This whole “Event” was garbage! even the undercards!
Bob Arum this fight was “No Bueno”
Cant wait till May 1st a real fight with the two best weleterweights in Boxing and the real P4P king Floyd Mayweather JR!!

Posted March 14, 2010 

blanche-boy

still the obvious result, pac in a very impressive victory, a frightening one to those who will fight him next. floyd, mosley, berto, bob arum better gave them chance to shut up the pac haters out there. this a preview of what they can do in fighting the pac express, defend but not a chance to win against him, engage him and take the risk of beaten black and blue or for floyd hit and run. FOR NOW, LET’S WHAT FOR GARDUNO, LAHR, PEREZ AND CO TO AIR THEIR EXCUSES AND BIASED WRITING AGAINST PAC. WHAT WILL THEY SAY, PROBABLY CLOTTEY IS NOT A GREAT FIGHTER OR DID NOT COME TO WIN BUT COME TO COLLECT! Anyway, you can hope and pray again pac to loss next time! Shame on you, as we told you so!

Posted March 14, 2010 

wowzabean

big lo,

After the fight. Kellerman had a history of pressuring for the random blood tests and insinuating Pacquiao’s guilty for not taking them. His little tirade after interviewing Pac and Clottey was just annoying to me. Yelling into the mic about how the Pac/May fight should happen. I agree, but just the way he went about it. Plus I was totally wasted by that time, so maybe I was just being violent, i don’t know hahaha.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Big Lo

@Wowza,

Can you elaborate on your Max Kellerman comment? What should Manny have decked him for? His comments during the fight? His interview after the fight?

Please elaborate.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Manong Tagacebu

Arum and Jones WON!!!

I wonder whats the PPV buys for this fight?

Posted March 14, 2010 

hardway

im so sick of paying for boring undercards. im so pissed

Posted March 14, 2010 

toxic

it was absolutely amazing to see manny fight, yes clottey had a tremendous clam shell defense but all in all clottey could a pure welter weight could nothurt manny with those shots that did connect, if u watch the 4th and 10th rounds you would see that paquiao would stand in front of him and allow him joshua to hit him with 3 straight upper cuts ( manny takes them all and then some) amazing really. I saw joshua feel manny’s heavy hands and all he could do was to cover up, there was just too much speed difference between the two. speed won over strenght and joshua’s durability in this fight. yes i clearly saw joshua was a little bit wobbled in the 11th round when manny took him to the corner a continuous assault could and would make an affect that’s why joshua could only muster covering up .

Point is Manny is still the best pound for pound welter weight. Josua clottey is a good boxer ( it’s just that speed over whelmed him in this battle) man i would love to see paquiao vs berto, paquiao vs margarito, heck if paul williams go back to welter that would be a great fight too, it seems that now more than ever if floyd wins over mosley we would see this fight happen as a boxing fan ( in the mean time time to go dave lahr hunting )

Posted March 14, 2010 

D

and before anyone comment on what i just said i want to add people must give manny his dues he did fight someone who was bigger and strnger and he won. but the fact is he did’t beat him up he just looked the busyer fight the whole fight. and as for the body shots they didn’t seem to hurt clotty at all he kept coming forward for more. u have to give respect for that as well. lol and i do agree floyd vs clotty = boriiiiiiiiiiiiiing fight

Posted March 14, 2010 

macho_pac

down south, you cant have a perfect defense if you throw as much as manny does.. floyd and clottey look good defensively because punching output is limited..

Posted March 14, 2010 

Dre00

@WOWZA hahahahah “Wow what a fight?”"” dude please! don`t start!!

Posted March 14, 2010 

macho_pac

dre00, yeah like they said tyson was gonna knock douglas out right? well we knew what happened there.. my mother taught me to show manners to whom its due… biatch

Posted March 14, 2010 

wowzabean

Nice job Ryan.

Wow, what a fight! This just proves one thing, how great Pacquiao really is. Averaging OVER 100 PUNCHERS PER ROUND! I seriously want you guys to absorb that, OVER 100 PUNCHES PER ROUND! In one round I think he threw 122 punches. If 90% of these bloggers threw 100 punches in a round, they’d puke.

People would argue that Clottey didn’t put up a fight, but the reality of the situation is he had nothing to hit! Great fighters make good fighters look like trash, that’s exactly what Manny did. Cover up like Clottey for a second, and imagine what he saw. Punches non stop coming at him, and no way to counter.

Half way through the fight Clottey had 2 choices. One lose the fight by decision, two open up and get KOd. He knew this, and decided to end things w/at least keeping his “never getting KOd” attached to his resume. Seeing DeJesus say “open up, take a risk!” and watching Clottey shake his head thinking “F*ck you, you fight him then!” LOL, precious. Round 10 Clottey almost got knocked down, though.

This brings up 2 points!

1. Pacquiao/Mayweather HAS TO HAPPEN! A busy fighter who can use a jab, contrary to what these bloggers say, vs. the best defensive/counter puncher! It will be crazy! Pacquiao would make even a Mayweather fight exciting, even I didn’t think that was possible.

2. Even though there was no KO that night, Max Kellerman needs to get his @ss kicked! Pacquiao should have decked him.

Peace.

Posted March 14, 2010 

D

lol i like the fact that people say that manny destroyed clotty. manny beat clotty clearly on points only because he threw more punches.most of the punches were blocked and hardly any clean punches landed. to be honest clotty landed the cleaner and more damaging punches is just he didn’t throw enough. infact manny looked alot more damaged than clotty. i i personaly think that although manny was winning the rounds he was taking punishment and not landing any clean punches. so wot i wonna know is how can manny fair against someone who has a much better defence who will have alot faster hand speed and in general alot more very harder to hit than clotty of cause iam talking about floyd mayweather.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Dre00

@ Macho_Pac >> You don`t even know what i was referring too, didn`t your mother taught you manners, when you are not spoken to, you s h u t up??

Posted March 14, 2010 

macho_pac

@bojangles, exactly.. one covering and one backing up..

Posted March 14, 2010 

macho_pac

dre00 fights are not won by article, you’re stupid!

Posted March 14, 2010 

bojangles

@ Z

If floyd had of fought clottey last night… it definetly would of been the most boring fight of the decade….

There might not of even been a punch thrown in the whole fight haha….. a clamshell versus a little girl trying to pot shot the clamshell,… seriously what would of floyd done against clotteys “great wall of ghana”… thrown a few jabs and then retreat?… floyd wouldnt of engaged at all…clottey would of been too big an scary for lil fragile floyd haha

at least pacquiao made it half interesting, getting off some good combinations, showed an excellent punch/work rate…

Posted March 14, 2010 

Dre00

@Wilson show me one article that stated that Manny could never beat Clottey, dude!! everybody knew Manny would win!! Safe all your nonsense!!

Posted March 14, 2010 

wilson

Some idiots don’t really give Pacquiao a credit of beating a stronger & bigger Clottey. The BIG WHY? Because they’re simply IDIOTS. lol. They said that Pacquiao never destroyed Clottey. That’s funny & stupid. Pacquiao beat him up for 12 rounds and the only Clottey did is just cover his face. Why won’t you ask Clottey if his body really hurts? You Pacquiao haters you guys need to have life. You such all a stupid morons with an empty brains and blinded to see the facts & truth.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Dre00

Yeah! looking at how Manny fought, and how Clottey activity was dissapointing, Floyd would have won this fight easy, cause Floyd trows way more jabs, and is more active (footwork) etc, Manny would have never got the chance to trow that many punches, and land body punches like that.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Got Skillvoid

I havn’t watched the fight yet but i’d imagine it’s gonna be something along the lines of a welterweight version of Kevin Johnson Vs Vitali Klitscko!

Posted March 14, 2010 

San Diego

I’m a Pac fan. The fight was boring. Shame on Bob Arum for putting together lousy undercards and matching up Pacquiao with such a loser! This was a packed 50k attendance for boxing and this is all Top Rank was able to show? Half way through the Pacquiao-Clottey fight, I was thinking to myself “they should’ve gotten Margarito in.” Controversy would’ve at least added to this boring PPV event.

Congratulations to Pacquiao for showing up to the largest sparring date you had. I feel bad that he didn’t really have an opponent worth sharing the stadium with. Hopefully Mayweather doesn’t bore the t out of us this May. I hope Mosley knocks the shit out of him! Enough with these overly defensive boxers who come in the ring for a paycheck and not a fight! Pacquiao Vs. Mosley!!!

Posted March 14, 2010 

preston

anon – it is a little frustasting because it sooo easy to root for Pac……what is there not to like about the guy?…….but these fights that have catapulted him into superstardom have not really been true fights to guage his greatness……..NONE of his recent opponents have come into these fights riding ANY kind of momentum…….they have all been on the heels of a loss a recent loss…….Oscar had loss his last 3 out of 6 fights before fighting Manny……Hatton looked like he was out on his feet against Collazo and Lazcano, and was KO’ed by Floyd before he fought Manny……Cotto had been beaten mercilessly by Margarito just one fight prior, and Clottey was comming off of a loss himself. First, I would like Manny to fight a viable opponent whom will not enter the fight 7-1 underdog…….an opponent whom Freddie Roach actually considers “good”…..and an opponent who actually isnt battling his way back from a recent loss.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Ali

Am I the only guy who saw this fight as a boring fight, with one guy who wouldn’t launch a punch incase he loses, it wa sa farce, mayweather would knnocked out Pacquiao

Posted March 14, 2010 

Who

@ Foxy , actually I’m very educated and I do not accept what you said. I’m educated and a real 35 year plus boxing fan. Manny is a great brawler and exciting. But when you do a side by side comparison of the greatest fighters of all time, those greats who had offense and defende, pac is not in those greats league. Tyson was a brawler, he is hall of fame quality for sure, that is the type of great fighter pac is. Now Ali, he destroyed with offense and defense, that is class of hall of fame great fighter that floyd is. Tyson and Ali both hall of fame fighters but different styles. But like all things, history show defense wins games, offense will handle itself, if you ever played a high school sport you would know offense only get you so far, because its only a matter of time before that someone or team show up who offense is much better than yours. Football, Basketball, Hockey, you name, offense is key in order to score points, but all sports heavily stress defense. March Madness, the crowd always cheer what? Defense Defense, we get excited when they score, but we know offense sells tickets, but defense wins games.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Oli

Clottey clearly lost the fight due to his own lack of agression. But he definatly did NOT get destroyed.

Pacquiao could not hurt Clottey. In fact il bet Pacquiaos face looks worse than Clotteys. When you are fighting pacquiao obviously your defence has to be on point, but i still cant help wonder did Clottey really do all he could have done offensively?

Posted March 14, 2010 

Bob

All you people with Mayweather this and that the bottom line is he will lose why Floyd throws 20 to 30 punches a round most of the time he’s behind in fights going to round 7. Pac will out hustle him Floyd has never thrown 100 punches a round. Anyone who can’t comprehend is a fool.

Posted March 14, 2010 

anon

preston i totally agree,hes been fed the right fighters at the right time by his team and people are buying it the only thing thats been impressive is how easy he beats them not that hes winning cos u wud expect him to

Posted March 14, 2010 

anon

how did he destroy a fighter that he barley landed a head shot on all night?the fight went exactly the way evry1 thot…the only thing that surprised me was clottey even threw less than i expected which made it that much easier for pac,boring fight

Posted March 14, 2010 

r.a.w.

Arum promotes both guys… Throughout the lead up to the fight, I saw Manny being treated like a prized fighter. Best training, best conditioning, and I think I saw his name on a plane. On the other side, I saw Clottey living in a shack, eating two meals a day, and running around in a garbage bag. The least Arum could have done is made sure Clottey had a decent substitute trainer and some good sparring. Bottom line, Clottey trained to make weight and not to fight. Don’t blame Pac and Clottey for this travesty, blame Arum!

Posted March 14, 2010 

preston

Eli- lolol……..I dont know what Clottey was thinking about……problay about where and when was he going to collect his check…………….you call him the grandmaster….lolol…..let me add to that by calling him the grandmaster of thieves….lolol

Posted March 14, 2010 

Eli

@ preston I feel you dude, i expected more outta the grandmaster clottey too. but i think his offense stayed in training. lol

Posted March 14, 2010 

Oli

Lets get it right, Clottey was NOT destroyed at all. Yes for the first time i can honestly say he actually WAS beaten and he was beaten clearly and fair and square, but lets be real, he WASNT destroyed. Diaz, dela hoya, hatton ,cotto THEY were destroyed.

He didnt disgrace himself but on the other hand Clottey was far too passive for me. I think he let this chance pass him by, because when he actually countered or went on the offense, he COULD have made a real argument out of it.

Was his passivness down to himself, or was it down to mannys brilliance? Dont forget this was the P4P. I still like Cloteey and i think he can be proud of himself but i think he could have done so much more, he didnt press the fight and looked happy to just NOT be knocked out.

It proved two things…ONLY the very ELITE can beat Clottey, and that pacquiao IS the P4P king

Posted March 14, 2010 

NamCap

Now my eyes are set on the next BIGGER fight …. PBF vs Mosley
I am watching this with a dozen of my buddies …. would be a very interesting match up.

May the best fighter win on this one.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Big Lo

@Pat,

Khan has said he wants to fight both Manny AND Floyd, so the assumption is that he thinks he can beat them both (without saying it outright).

Posted March 14, 2010 

Foxy

Just accept that Pacquiao is the king of boxing. Plain and simple. If you’ll talk to highly educated people they’ll accept that pacquiao is the best now. If i were you fellas, just convince py boy Floyd to grow some balls and fight Manny Pacquiao under the commission rules not on Floyd’s rules. Who’s Floyd Mayweather btw? He;s just a challenger to Manny’s and Shane Mosely’s belts. You losers have to accept that. Don’t keep riding PBF’s NOB unless you’re enjoying it.

Posted March 14, 2010 

patpump

Strange fight but entertaining, Pac did what he had to do to win and Clotty did what he had to do not to get knocked out or beat up. Next up Floyd vs Shane, may turn out to be similar, or they might really go at each other. Oh bye the way has Kahn come out and said the he thinks he can beat Manny yet, just a matter of weeks before he spits that out.

Posted March 14, 2010 

preston

I got you ryan………..I hope I didnt come off the wrong way…….I am just a little dissapointed in Clotteys performance………lolol…….just venting.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Big Lo

@Namcap,

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe it’s the new “Manila Ice” LOL!

Posted March 14, 2010 

Ryan Dunn

@preston

I agree with you. But my point was that playing a defensive strategy without gaining Pacquiao’s respect early isn’t going to work. Even if he doesn’t connect he will throw, and shut you down.

Anyone who wants to beat Manny the welterweight has to hurt him early and gain his respect. Probably a flash knockdown or a hard shot that buckles him. Otherwise, he will continue to come forward with speed and if you open up against him he’ll deliver odd angles and power shots from everywhere.

I think he’s a deceivingly tricky, slick fighter to beat, and I think too little credit is given to his set of tools, most people simply say he has fast hands, decent power, and terrible defense. But that is oversimplifying it, and any opponent who subscribes to that mind set will end up like Cotto.

That’s all I mean.

…ryan

p.s. thanks Big Lo for punch stats. Manny lands 1 of every 6 shots, Clottey lands 1 of every 4 shots, Manny lands twice as many shots. Manny wins. I guess that’s the fight in a nutshell?

Posted March 14, 2010 

Eli

destorys? pac won cause he was the busier fighter, pacs punches didnt faze clottey, the boys a rock!! with the little bit of punches clottey threw, look what he did to pacquaio face, imagine if he was willing to chance it against pac-man?. pac won because he threw more punches. but defense and punch accuracy belong to clottey.

Posted March 14, 2010 

preston

And when is Pac going to fight a serious challenger whom Roach wont be discounting as soon as the fight is signed????? Roach told everybody that Oscar was done as a fighter when Pac agreed to fight him…..Roach told everybody that Ricky Hatton was not going to poise a serious threat to Pac when they agreed to fight…….Roach told everybody that Cotto was damaged goods…..and Roach told everybody that Clottey was “not that good”……and true to what Roach was saying, Manny Pacquiao has feasted on these guys. But Roach would not allow Pac to fight Shane Mosely becasue he felt that Mosely was “too good of a fighter”?????…….and now we are getting set up again because even though Roach and Pac has talked about wanting to fight Mosely and Mayweather publicly, there are also the quiet chatter about Pac fighting Antonio Margarito in his next fight……and I for one, wont be fooled again…………unless Pacs next opponent is not named Mosely, Mayweather, Bradley…..hec, I would even take Valero, I wont be interested.

Posted March 14, 2010 

NamCap

Can anyone tell me what that illegal shot is called? … when Manny hit Clottey with his two hands on both sides of his head.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Big Lo

Final Punchstats:

Pac 246/ 1231 (20%)
Clottey 108/399 (27%)

Posted March 14, 2010 

Big Lo

Ryan,

Yes, I agree ring generalship was clearly Pac’s. But, I would argue that defense and clean punching were Clottey’s. Also, I just finished the fight again, and Pac did win a lopsided decision, but I still thought it could have been a 9-3 fight.

Also, about coming back at me, keep it coming. I’m asking for it…

Posted March 14, 2010 

ashishwarrior

nice to see pacmans fought more welters in top five than mayweather the light weight is more feard then the welter

Posted March 14, 2010 

boxer

Hey you guys, it’s better to stop dreaming the fight between Manny and “Money”(FMjr). FMjr is just a coward gay boxer and scared to lose her money. It’s better that FMjr will take the stero vs. Manny with no stero then you will see that FMjr will cry like a baby black cow to her father with a big mouth. Expect a Manny vs. Mosley soon after May1. FMjr should be scared to Mosley because he has a history that he took stero. FMjr just take a fight with Manny just to prove yourself that you can beat Manny and prove it by yourself that you are undefeatable boxer. FMjr you talk too much just prove it by yourself of how you can defeat Manny. Coward lady!
Anyway, if you worried about Stero during fight night then what the HBO saw when they made a 24×7 coverage and what is the use of that blood test???! Why this black lady scared too much to fight Manny??? What can I say is… FMjr go and take the stero and fight Manny. Hahahaha!

Posted March 14, 2010 

preston

Ryan- The blueprint for beating Pac??? Clottey was a 7-1 underdog, and stated that he was going to throw 4 punches to Pac’s 30, so we knew, if anything that, that definately was NOT going to be the blueprint to beating Pac…….I think that JMM, whom is a very good counter puncher, but has no where near the speed of Pac, gives you a blueprint….Morales gave a pretty good blueprint also…..counter, counter, counter. Pac is very quick with his hands, but he is a very hittable fighter, as Clottey showed you last night, when he attempted to do so. And yeah, Pac threw over 1200 punches against Clottey……….lolol….but, another welterweigth fighter, Antonio Margarito threw close to 1700 punches against Clottey also……….

Posted March 14, 2010 

Ryan Dunn

Ah thanks @Big Lo, what was Manny’s final percentage? In fact, I don’t have the stats here, could you bless the thread with them? All the final punch stats I mean.

…ryan

Posted March 14, 2010 

Ryan Dunn

@Big Lo

I hate to keep coming back at you, but as far as ring generalship, no way you can give that to Clottey, if and when Pacquiao LET Clottey come forward, it was so that Pacquiao could side-step and try for hooks to the side of Clottey’s defense.

I just don’t see anything in last night’s fight to suggest any weakness has been exposed in Manny that hasn’t always been there. The slugger is always open to the counter shots, just ask JMM. But at welterweight, the gap between hand speed an sharp countering is more great because of how speedy Pacquiao look against these guys.

Floyd and Shane stand a chance, but I now think that it is THEY who have to bring the perfect fight to Pacquiao. Manny can win points in every round if the other guy isn’t busy, and as Cotto learned, when you get busy against Pacquiao, you get TKO’d.

…ryan

Posted March 14, 2010 

Big Lo

@Ryan,

FYI – Clottey landed in the mid-high 20′s (27%).

Posted March 14, 2010 

ZKO

Good point Moseley-Pac would be the more exciting matchup because of the styles. Even if Moseley loses a close decision to Mayweather, I would still like to see Moseley-Pac before or immediately after Mayweather-Pac.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Big Lo

@Haroon,

That’s exactly my point. Pac’s punches were mainly landing to the body. And, it’s VERY difficult to determine which body shots land and which body shots are blocked. So, if the judges are scoring rounds based on the body punches, then they are basically scoring based on activity because they can not really tell which body shots are landing.

Also, in all of Pac’s recent fights (since moving up in weight), he ALWAYS ends up chasing his opponents around the ring. This did not happen against Clottey (which suggests to me that he wasn’t as effective in terms of landing punches as many believe). In fact, it was Clottey who was pressing Pac the majority of the fight.

I think the commentators said it best. Clottey’s style works against non-elite fighters, but against elite fighters he needs to throw more. The reason this is significant is becuse it suggests that there are different standards depending on the level/ class of your opponent (a double standard of sorts)

Posted March 14, 2010 

FIXED!!!

Man Clottey walking out of there with a sutcase full of money!!! FIXED fight!!! BUT, even if it wasnt, Pac-Man would beat him anyways so…..

Posted March 14, 2010 

Ryan Dunn

@Anonymous

Any premier fighter is GOING TO hit Manny, that is why it’s so exciting to watch him. Because he COULD get KO’d at any moment. He trades in conservative defense for non-stop aggression. It definitely leaves him open to get hit, but it also makes it very difficult for his opponents to have a rhythm.

A peek-a-boo, shoulder roll, pot-shot game plan is NOT going to work against Manny. You can criticize Manny’s connect percentage, but as Big Lo can attest, even when Clottey lands a clean shot, Pacquiao just keeps coming forward, unaffected. I felt Pacquiao’s balance was better in this fight than ever before, and for the record Clottey’s connect percentage was as abysmal as Manny’s, somewhere in the low 20′s I think.

At the end of the day, Floyd has more in common with Clottey than he does with Mosley. And Mosley has more in common with Pacquiao than either of the other two. If styles make fights, the most EXCITING fight on paper is Mosley vs. Pacquiao, without question. But the biggest fight is Pacquiao vs. Mayweather, because of the 0 in Money May’s record. Until someone takes it away like Mayweather did to Hatton, people will continue to wonder, can ANYONE beat Mayweather.

Ironically, after last night, I wonder the exact same about Manny the Welterweight. He’s shown he can take any opponent’s weapon (Clottey’s turtle defense, Hatton’s telegraphed left hook, etc.) and use it against them.

…ryan

Posted March 14, 2010 

fighttime69

It was very easy to look good against a fighter who wasn’t even trying to throw punches. Man, I would have loved to get paid a few millions dollars to cover up and throw a few punches a round. I like Manny alot. But, now way that would happen if he fights Mosley or Mayweather, them covering up like that. What a diservice to Clottey’s team and himself. That was a big opportunity for him and he blew it. Some of his purse should have been withheld.

Posted March 14, 2010 

JOSH

I’m just wondering what the PPV numbers are,.. Anybody?

Posted March 14, 2010 

hook&jab

This was one of Pacmans easiest fight! He wasn,t force to do anything! With clotty size and strength, its hard to believe that he could not force his way at all. Pacman gets no credit for this fight. He didn’t have to fight

Posted March 14, 2010 

preston

Well at least Clottey remained true to his word of throwing 4 punches to Pac’s 30……and he made this fight VERY easy for Pac…..While Freddie Roach was wrong about knocking out Clottey, he was very right about saying that Clottey is “not that good”. funny thing is, when Clottey attempted to throw punches….it did appear as if he could make things interesting, as even Manny himself remarked of how “tough” this fight was for him…..and he was NOT talking about Clottey’s defense. All in all Manny does did what he had to to win this fight by using his speed and barrage of punches to control things from start to finish…..but it is becomming VERY apparent that Pacquiao is absoluting feasting on these guys with big names, but very little bite….when the betting odds are 7-1 in your favor, then that does speak volumes. I think we can all safely say that Joshua Clottey, as Freddie Roach said…is “not that good”……in 6 of his most publicized fights, the guy is 2-4, and the Pac fight was his last chance to prove that he was more than just a ‘tough”, “durable” and “solid” fighter.

Posted March 14, 2010 

JOSH

You can’t blame Clotty for covering up too much and not being able to throw punches back, he knows the danger of slugging with Pac. He prefered to be safe inside his nut shell defence rather than be onother victim of a pcquiao KO. If Cotto could not survive by backpeddaling and Clottey could not cover himself enough to safety, I wonder what Floyd would do to be able to get a win from Pac.

By the way Pac is the one that has the belt, therefore if Floyd wants it and wants to have a big payday he should just come out and ask for it and be courageous enough to fight with no P*USSY P*USSY reasons.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Haroon Abbasi

BigLo Clottey didn’t look beat up because he covered his face all the way through the fight. A lot of the punishment Clottey took was to the body. Had he not covered his face, that accumulation of savage body shots to the head instead would surely have stopped him eventually.

Offensively, fighters like Clottey have to plant their feet to gain leverage in their punches. This makes Clottey slow and ponderous. By the time he set himself up to throw decent combinations, Pacman just moved to one side to unbalance Clottey again.

However one criticism of Pacman last night was his poor defence. He tried to prise Clottey out of his shell by inviting him to swing and in so doing took a couple of thuddering uppercuts bang on the chin. That was sloppy by the Pacman. He also took some solid Clottey jabs through the fight.

This was not an easy fight for Pacman but Clottey is an experienced, technically good and above all very strong welterweight. I was actually surprised Pacman and his crew chose to take this fight, a high risk contest against a strong and skillful welterweight.

Respect to Pacman, I thought he could lose but he was simply too good for Clottey in the final analysis. Clottey threw well little and while he defended well, he was hamstrung by having his gloves held high in front of his face, never able to gain leverage for this power shots. That was due to the fear of the Pacman’s power.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Ingenius

Pacquiao should NEVER do this again : Standing still in front of opponent convering his face. He got a lot of uppercuts from Cotto and Clottey with this style!!!Every fac fan should tell Pacquiao and Roach that this experimental defense is a failure!!! He should never use it again or he’ll be knocked out!!!!

Posted March 14, 2010 

hook&jab

I haven’t been on this site in a while but I had to get on the site and say that it looks as if Arum had another one of his boys to take a fall for the sake of Manny. I have seen many of Clotty fights a if this wasn’t taking a fall then I don’t no what is. The man was just holding his gloves up and made no atempt to even win a round. I just lost a lot of respect for clotty. I won’t blame pac cause he may have not knew but arum needs to stop his $hit. I know one thing! Clotty will make a dam good punching bag. Bring on Money so he can end this $hit for good. Money is nobody’s punching bag!

Posted March 14, 2010 

Anonymous

its not about bieng a powerful puncher. if u catch ur opponent when hes comin in or off balance it can do more damage because they dont have theyr feet set

Posted March 14, 2010 

Anonymous

whenever pacman throws a jab and is ready to throw the left right after, he keeps his left hand by his waist. very low. now throw 12 huned punches n miss 1000 of them, n floyd gon catch u.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Big Lo

@Ryan,

OK, I agree that Pac needs credit for beating both Cotto and Clottey (especially back to back), but I WOULD call his beating of Cotto a “dismantling” (I checked that google image and his head is wrapped up because they had to drain his ear, but he is a bit more swollen than I remembered), and I WOULD NOT call his beating of Clottey a “dismantling”.

I think the faces say it all – Cotto looked like he got beat up after the fight and Clottey didn’t (also, my main point is that Clottey deserved a few more rounds – I think rounds 3 and 5 should have been Clottey’s, and I’m still watching the rest of the fight).

Posted March 14, 2010 

Mr Ruun P

ok ok, that fight was less than exciting i agree but, that was pacman’s game plan, he didnt come in big and shredded, he came in there a nice lean and small fighter. freddie and pacman’s plan was to take it to the later rounds and pull a “W”. thats exactly what they did. they knew what type of defense clottey had and they had to adjust to that. clottey is a great boxer, and truly in his prime, he jus couldnt adjust to manny’s style.

as for mayweather and pacman, it really doesnt matter who “THE BEST POUND FOR POUND” fights, it could be mosely or berto or mayweather. all i kno is that at this point in manny’s career, hes already solidified a spot in boxing greats and history. sure mosely has done that too and maybe berto is on his way but mayweather will be always known for an untarnished record always fighting a smaller man.

ill tell u why mayweather will not take this fight. mayweather has more to lose in this fight. if he wins, ok he was supposed to win, hes a bigger man. if he loses there goes his undefeated record and everythin that his legacy was riding on. not to mention all the boxing bull talk that he was giving. mayweather is a good boxer, he plays the system well BUT what floyd can do manny can do better!

Posted March 14, 2010 

belowthebelt

I am really the only one that thinks there is something drastically wrong with the Pacman story ? Honestly ???

Let’s examiner the concerns I have :

1) He has moved up many weights and in each division he has stopped, he has not only beaten his opponent, but is oddly far,far stronger than the guy he is facing in the new division ( generally an opponent that has been established at the weight for some time ). He then proceeds to batter the new foe and is totally unharmed or bother by the power of these guys in the bigger division ? ;

2) The utterly lame excuses he has given to refuse Mayweather’s demand to submit to blood testing really doesn’t hold water and is too suspcious to be overlooked, despite the crap that falls from Bob Arum, Freddie Roach’s and Manny’s lips !

Sorry, I do feel that there is something very wrong where Pacman is concerned ?!!

Posted March 14, 2010 

Ryan Dunn

Personally I think Top Rank made a sweetheart deal with Jones, and when GBP cancelled a meeting to consider the venue for the Pac/May fight, they sealed their fate because Arum was taking Manny to Dallas one way or another.

And secondarily, I think January negotiations for a March fight between Pac and May was too rushed and did a disservice to the magnitude of the event. A Fall fight, fully promoted, with time to seep in and spread like wildfire, is a smarter strategy.

Plus if both fighters won this Spring in their respective matches (so far so good for Manny, now it’s Floyd’s turn) then their stock might actually go up a bit MORE as a result.

There might be more marketing strategy at play here than meets the eye.

and @Big Lo… I’m not disagreeing with you that Manny got hit. But he took Clottey’s best hooks and uppercuts and wasn’t fazed. Same with Cotto, he took the best Cotto could throw and then proceded to take every weapon away from them both. Reducing them from top tier welterweights to average sparring partners.

Don’t discredit the fact that the smaller guy dismantled the bigger, stronger, more established welterweights. That’s all I’m saying.

Oh and as far as the Cotto fight and how Manny looked after that fight, I would encourage you to Google “manny pacquiao post fight press conference” in Google images and check the first result. Don’t forget what Manny did to COTTO in that fight, btw.

Nobody said Manny has the same defense as Floyd or Clottey, but nobody can argue that either of those guys have nearly the same OFFENSE as Pacquiao. Nobody really does, man.

…ryan

Posted March 14, 2010 

dayyammmm

Like I said, the proof is already out there.

There’s a reason why Roach refused to let Shane fight Pac unless he starved himself down to 142.

And that is the same reason why Roach let Clottey fight Pac at 147. In his last 14 fights, he’s had 2 KO wins. 2. Two. As in 1. 2. You don’t even need a full set of fingers to count that low. An amputee with only one finger and a thumb could count that number of KO’s for you.

They cherrypick opponents who don’t pose a threat. Or if the opponent does pose a threat – they cherrypick a catchweight to force them to fight weak.

Last night’s fight was hardly an accomplishment.

Posted March 14, 2010 

tiger1223usa

clottey can beat mayweather to bad fm talked his way threw the ww division instea of fighting guys like clottey .clottey will make all his apponents look bad fm too.clotteys tough .

Posted March 14, 2010 

Big Lo

I meant especially Pac’s left eye.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Leroy

Clottey is a joker and disgrace to great and proud warriors like Ike Quartey and Azumah Nelson; and the nation of Ghana. To me, Clottey went into the fight to pick up a pay check (cheque), not to win. He should never again, get the opportunity to be an opponent in a big fight. Apparently, he learned nothing from his fight with Cotto.

I must give Arum and Roach much credit for selecting Pacquiao’s opponents prudently.

Posted March 14, 2010 

vince vegas

Joshua Clottey WORLD’S HIGHEST PAID SPARRING PARTNER!

Transcripts from Clottey’s corner:

Clottey’s trainer: Joshua, when you said ‘Peek-A-Boo’ defense I didn’t think you meant you were going to peek out between your hands & yell BOO! Hit the mother f***ker!!!

Clottey; You want a black man to hit somebody, in Texas, will 50,000 witnesses? What are you, out of your mind? Don’t you know who I am? I’m da richest man in Ghana Bi-Yotch!

Pac Corner: Pacquiao to Boo Boy (In Tag-A-Log): Boo Boy, how’s my song list coming for tonight?

Freddy Roach; What did he say?

Boo; Ahhhh, well boss, he say guy don’t want to fight, cover up & cry like little girl, too nice, can’t fight

Roach; OK, Manny, ahhhh, I don’t know, throw lot’s of punches, to his arms, try not to hurt him & make him cry, the ACLU might file a law suit

Boo Boy Translation; Manny, you invited Cotto to your b-day party, maybe you should invite Clottey to your Kareoke party?

Billionaire Row:

Bob Arum: Hey Jerry, how rich are you?

Jerry Jones: Well Bob, I’m REALLY F***ING RICH!!!

Bob Arum: Hey Jerry, ME TOO!!!

Demonic laughter erupts from both men; Arum has to adjust his yamika in order to cover the birth mark on his head that bears a strange resemblance to the number 666. Jerry’s cowboy hat almost falls off, but is caught on one of the horns coming out of his head.

That was a bulls**it fight if I ever saw one.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Big Lo

@Ryan,

I’m actually watching the fight right now (just finished the 3rd round). Last night, I went to a fight party so I couldn’t hear the commentators too well, but I am re-watching it for that exact reason (to see exactly what they were saying, because it seems to me that everybody is agreeing with the commentators and not being reasonable in their own analysis of the fight – and to your point, it sounds like Max is agreeing with you, but Steward was agreeing with me).

Last night a friend said the same thing about Cotto (that Pac looked worse after the Cotto fight). I have to disagree completely. After Cotto, Pac only had a slight Cauliflower ear, but after Clottey, Pac was swollen, red, and had lumped up eyes (especially his right eye).

Posted March 14, 2010 

liam knows

im sorry was i watching a different fight. ‘pacquaio destroys clottey’?, no sorry pacquiao whitewashed clottey, but he hardly landed a clean punch on him in the fight despite throwing about 1000. Ok before all you pac nuts get on my case, this was largely due to clottey covering up for the entire fight, and you can only beat the guy in front of you. but this was a terrible fight and even though he won just about every round i was not impressed with pacquiao. Clottey is a very average fighter, so no further credit should go to pacquaio for beating him. In fact pacquiaos stock should fall as a result of this performance. despite having a boxing dummy in front of him for 12 rounds he couldnt land a clean punch all night. I dont care what any so called boxing experts say, manny telegraphs his punches and is extremely one dimensional. ther is no way that he deserves the title of best p4p or all the hype he has gotten recently. The winner of mayweather mosley will be rubbing their hands at the chance of facing him. With that performance he has proved just how easy it would be for mayweather to pick jim to pieces, i mean come on if he couldnt lay a clean shot on clottey he has no chance against floyd, who can box a bit too by the way and is just as quick as manny. if mosley wins(which i doubt) then we really will see what happens when manny tries to trade with a proper welter legend who can not only slug but has great boxing skills, either way you have just seen the last win of pacmans career, so enjoy it all you pac loons.

Posted March 14, 2010 

boxing fan

pacquiao is way too much for clottey!he cannot counter because of barrage of punches pacquiao thrown!the only time clottey connects was when pacquiao allows him to!it was pretty even before the fight until the bell rang!those punches to the rib cage and arms surely hurts that’s why clottey stayed at his defensive mode!

Posted March 14, 2010 

Ryan Dunn

@Big Lo + Z

This was a rather boring fight, but Manny did throw over 1,200 punches. If you recorded the fight, I’d watch it again. If you think Clottey beat Manny up any more than Cotto did, you must be listening too closely to Max Kellerman.

For the 1 to 10 punch ratio between these two fighters, sure Manny got tagged, but Manny was WIDE OPEN due to the fact that he HAD TO throw a lot of shots otherwise the judges wouldn’t have given the round to EITHER fighter.

Manny exercised ring generalship, controlling the movement around the ring and imposing whatever he could on the defensively poised Clottey. His aggression may have been inefficient, but it was still effective due to the volume. And if you look at power shots and punches landed, Manny still has the significant edge.

I think if your statement is that Manny tasted leather, then yes, but we all knew he would. Clottey is a very accurate, and strong puncher. But did he ever hurt Manny or anything close to it? Not a chance.

It was a bit of an impasse of a fight, but Manny won basically all 12 rounds convincingly even WITH a fighter who refused to trade.

Still looking for that game plan to take Manny out of it. These welterweights will have to deal with a tsunami of punch volume they’ve never seen before. What’s the last welter who threw almost 1,300 punches and lost? Even half that is a busy night for a welter.

…ryan

Posted March 14, 2010 

Josh

Enough guys!!!

PAcman should retire now as the next fight everybody wants would surely be boring…Floyd, the Overrated boxer/runner.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Brent

Man that fight sucked I’m mad that I paid my money for that crap. I thought clottey would have put up more of a fight than that. Now here we go again with the mayweather questions again. There will be no fight if manny does not agree to the random blood test. Freddie roach nows what he is doing when he talks that crap manny too they both know they r not going to take the test so they can talk all the crap they want. I don’t ever see them fighting so all we can do is keep wondering who would win or lose so we might as well get this fight out of our minds.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Roo Dog

Hey Jonny Allen,
Who bored you Pac or Clottey

Posted March 14, 2010 

Big Lo

As I expected and as I posted a hundred times, Pac won because of his speed and activity, but he got beat up. Am I the only one who thinks that Clottey hammered Pac (not that he won, but that he beat Pac up)? Look at their faces at the end of the fight.

Pac won purely because of his activity (which is not what boxing should be scored on – it’s supposed to be clean punching and effective aggressiveness). Throwing 1200 punches and landing 20% should not be enough to win a fight (and judges will certainly have a hard time determining which body punches are landing and which are being blocked).

If activity is what judges are looking at, NOBODY will be able to beat Pac. He is just too busy and too fast.

Posted March 14, 2010 

z

I do have to laugh because if floyd fought that fight last night these same pac fans would be all over the boards today saying how unbelievably boring the fight was and how floyd is the most boring boxer ever, but because pac fought it i guess its not boring but tactical and skillful lol.

But in saying that i try to be a middle of the road fan, i dont dislike floyd or pac. Its not pac’s fault that clottey wouldnt throw back. Pac threw 1200 punches which is incredible, he did what he could to try to make the fight exciting, clottey was just content with collecting his $ and going back to ghana which sucked for us but he has a couple mil more in his bank account today.

I dont discredit pac though he is a great great fighter, i just wanna see him fight a great boxer and someone who actually moves their feet.

Posted March 14, 2010 

dagohoy

clottey give my money back.damn ///sss.

Posted March 14, 2010 

ozzy osborne

clottey was bigger and stronger than pacman?? cmon man !! put any spin you want on it but lets at least be a little honest here Ryan… the only reason clottey was fighting pac was because he was an easy fight !! easy to make because he is a top rank fighter.. the whole card was a joke !! i give credit to manny thou…he was sensational.. you cant make a fighter fight you… time to move away from “pac-mania” now and focus on real competitive boxing …pac vs. shane would be entertaining as heck, pac would stop a very game mosley late imo..now pac vs. floyd is another story !! like clottey mayweather has great defense.. thats where the simalarities end.. floyd has an offense too!! what a concept !! floyd will win at least ten of the rounds vs. pacman… i think floyd has a good chance of stoping pac late.. unlikely thou…mayweather by u.d….

Posted March 14, 2010 

Nam Cap

Clottey was just to afraid to get hurt, Did not take any risk to do anything or was overwhelmed by a lot of punches … that even compared to his other fights which at least he dominated a couple of exciting rounds was a bit exciting.

Dunno what happened to him but at least this time he did not complain against anything.

A small portion of this fight is what we would see if Pac and PBF fights …. very interesting indeed.

At least the Pacman did not dissappoint his fans…he tried to be as entertaining fighting a turtle .. lol… sorry guys…lmao just could not get the two punch at the same time in my head of Clottey ..lol

Posted March 14, 2010 

elgato

Steroids and a punching bag of an opponent equals very one-sided fight

Posted March 14, 2010 

Ryan Dunn

Someone said Marquez showed the gameplan to beat Manny. True, and so did Morales. But that was not at welterweight. I guarantee you either of those guys in their prime bs. Manny right now would lose embarrassingly.

I posited what WELTER could find the gameplan to beat Manny. Paul Williams would have a chance, but last night Manny took on a hard counter puncher with great defense who likely weighed 15 pounds more on fight night and Manny scared the guy to even TRY to open up.

It’s impressive no matter how you spin it and I want to know what Floyd can do to steal rounds if his gameplan is to hide behind his gloves and throw counter shots.

Someone else said Manny faded late with lower pinch output. You might want to check the compu box numbers. He was throwing over 100 punch rounds almost all the way through.

…ryan

Posted March 14, 2010 

Nam Cap

I am LMAO when Pacman punch Clotty with both his left and right on the side of his head … lol … probably telling Clottey man do something … lol but ref called it illegal/foul? Not so sure.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Family Guy

what would floyd do different you ask ?? floyd would punch back !! clottey like most fighters on the card was just there to collect a paycheck and go home !! that was probly the last time you will see clottey in a major fight, imo…gotta let those hands go joshua…

Posted March 14, 2010 

jujuhound

With all respect to Manny, I wouldn’t go as far to say that he destroyed Clottey. I was actually quite disappointed that he wasn’t able to floor Clottey at least once. That Clottey is one rock-solid mutha’. A little bit boring compared to Manny’s other fights, but then again, Manny has spoiled his fans by always trying to go for the KO, and we always expect that.

Posted March 14, 2010 

hijynx

The event was fixed! Just look at clotteys gf reaction inside the locker room before the walkout to the ring. Man they dooped everyone. Boxing is no longer what it used to be. Boxing turned to wwe. It’s not real!

Posted March 14, 2010 

RMC

Good performance by PAC, still I would not say he destroyed Clottey, like the title of this article states. UD was always on the cards. PAC landed very little clean flush shots on the night as a lot was leather on leather, he simply could not break down the tough Clottey, so switching his tactics to volume punching and work rate was the sensible avenue to approach, when he knew he would not get Clottey out of there. The problem for Clottey was he offered very little offensively to trouble PAC. At points he hurt PAC, but simply did not have the speed nor foot movement to cause PAC too many problems, so long as PAC stuck to his game plan, kept out of range and moved! However as a neutral it was an entertaining fight, tactically interesting and well worth staying up till the early hours of the morning for, I think Clottey was hoping for PAC to blow himself out…but that was never going to happen…and found himself slipping behind round by round. I did like the way Clottey showed a lot of heart and tried to rally at the end and it was nice to hear the crowd getting behind him at the end. Both true warriors, good fight, now I cannot wait for Mosley v Mayweather…I have a sneaky feeling Mosley will cause an upset!

Posted March 14, 2010 

jonny allen

amazing is a bit too much of a strong word. the fight was basically clottey having his hands up, and pacquaio throwing many punches, what else coud he have done. the fight was boring 2 be honest

Posted March 14, 2010 

bmcilonoy

Floyd is chicken and waffles.

Posted March 14, 2010 

lionheart66

Pac is not and never has been juicing.When at 105 he was 16,pbf 20.Plus he a skinny dude on a bowl o rice a day not steak and greens.He just filled up on good ol american grub.Got his warrior mentallity from wars with true champs,morales,barrera,marquez at fighting weights.He just filled out and got better.Floyd just saw his chance to preserve his 0,and after last night against clotty,pac showed that unless you ko him,and what the odds pbf doin that?to beat him you have to outpoint him,and that also impossible,you cant outwork pac,so floyd fans fess up,he would LOSE.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Foreal

Exactly like I said. Clottey would cover up through 12 rounds and will get smothered. I was correct to say he will go the 12 rounds, but I was wrong to say he would cry foul at the end of 12 rounds. Manny put up an exellent fight and it couln’td have been any better, and the winner any clearer. Manny is certainly a decent, top fighter and I am wondering how Floyd can hundle the speed and the power. Certainly, the only one who can bring Pacman some problems is Floyd, I hope that this will happen because big questions are begging for answers. For now, hands up for Pacman!

Posted March 14, 2010 

mickeymarley

poor guys ribs must be sore thismorning

Posted March 14, 2010 

Bikeshop

In short, Mayweather is a businessman, and supremely arrogant. He is terrified, at the unconscious level, that his view of himself could plummet and his stocks would fall if he were to lose to Pacquiao.
In short, Mayweather is a chicken, and definitely not in the Duran, Hagler, Hearns category – where being the best in the world meant something – even if the fight had to take place in a back alley.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Bikeshop

It is clear that fans of Floyd Mayweather have taken on the same insecurities as the boxer himself. With latent fear of having Mayweather lose,they hang on to the increasingly dubious belief that Pacquiao takes steroids.

If last night is any indication, Pacquiao has one weakness. If he likes and respects an opponent, as he did Clottey, he let’s them off the hook. Pacquiao coasted in the twelfth.

Should/when Mayweather and Pacquiao fight, expect a rustled bee-hive fierceness in Pacquiao; win or lose I suspect he will first leave lumps all over Mayweather, then knock a few of them off.

Posted March 14, 2010 

graham

Thanks vinny.

unknown,

Take care. I would love to continue talking to you but have to go.

ciao!

Posted March 14, 2010 

unknown

@Graham
so you’re just accusing Manny of using PEDS without evidence… if it is unfair for you to give evidence of his PEDS use before accusing him… do you think it is more unfair to accuse him without evidence? you have to be partial men… you’re the one who’s making the accusation witout evidence then you’re the one who’s crying unfair because we need evidence of the accusation… is the world getting crazy? and besides there’s a lot of reason why Manny don’t want that random test… it could be that Mayweather is beginning to piss him off… by the way, you mentioned that there’s a lot of red tapes… what are the others that tells you that Manny is on PEDS?

If for 40 million Manny will not take the test… then for 40 million why would Mayweather not drop the random test… is he scared? Don’t tell me that it’s Mayweather’s intention to start cleaning the sport in spite of losing 40 million… we all know that it’s pure bs…

Posted March 14, 2010 

vinny

@graham: Alright, I’m cool with that brother. I’m the same way about finding out who messed everything up, but we might be on different sides as far as our suspicions go! Doesn’t mean we can’t understand each other.

I just hope and pray that the two get to fight each other while they are in their primes. PBF has a tough task of taking on Mosley, he has to win if all this talk is going to mean anything in the end. I honestly believe that Mosley is the biggest WW threat to both PBF and Manny.

Imagine if Mosley KOs PBF and then KOs Manny, we’d have a new king of boxing to talk about. Don’t think it will happen, but he does have a definite chance to steal the fight, more so than a lot of people think. We are talking about Mosley the man who will fight pretty much anybody and always puts on a fight.

Posted March 14, 2010 

graham

vinny,

It’s nothing personal I assure you. The whole thing just amuses me.

Imagine what would have happened if it was Mayweather on the other end. Mayweather would have been crucified.

I am just trying to see who twisted this thing is. I am just trying to see if people are really serious about what they are saying, and whether their morals really mean anything.

Posted March 14, 2010 

graham

unknown,

Sorry I think you misunderstood me. I meant a “Red Flag” as a signal that there is something unusual is going on.

And I think it’s unfair to ask me to come up with concrete proof, if Pacquiao will not even have his blood drawn for $40 million. How am I supposed to do that?

Posted March 14, 2010 

vinny

@graham: Are you really that big of a PBF fan? Seems like you take this all so personal. I’m just trying to have a civil debate without any hate.

The answer is it was financial, but my point is the negotiations ruining the fights. In Manny vs PBF you have one fighter accusing another without any evidence, just the fact that one fighter is fighting at an elite level. In my opinion (I have no evidence) this makes the fighter making accusations look scared. Now that doesn’t make my opinion true, but I’m entitled to it just like you are entitled to your opinion (no evidence) that Manny is on PEDs.

Posted March 14, 2010 

unknown

@Graham… “refuse random test?”… didn’t I told you not to mention that… that does not mean anything… if I am Manny and you pissed me off for saying that I’m on PEDS… then I will also piss you off… I will want my way… take it or leave it… besides, I’m the champion… I have my say… will I loss money? So do you… and besides who needs more money? I have more than enough to even retire…

that “random test issue” is just a mind game between these two fighters that blows off beyond expectation… until their prides ruled… so don’t give me this “random test” crap as red tape… give me one that’s more concrete… with proof and evidence that Manny is on PEDS…

Posted March 14, 2010 

graham

vinny,

So what was it exactly that stopped the Hopkins vs Roy Jones Jr. fight? was it the commission rules?

Posted March 14, 2010 

vinny

@ares: I agree that shouldn’t have happened the catchweight fight at 145 with Cotto.

That’s why I think the fighters should just agree to commission rules and a 60/40 split to the winner because the winner should be the one who is rewarded, in this case a financial reward.

Posted March 14, 2010 

MoneyPack

Ryan, good read and well written. I agree, Pacquiao dominated
the whole 12 rounds. Clottey looks scared to counter-punch Pacquiao’s combination and speed. Every time Clottey unleash his punch/jabs he’s countered by 4-5-6 power combos. I’m just wondering how can Floyd defend an average of 100 punches/rd a total of 1,231 total punches? Floyd’s best defense would be…not to step in the ring.

Posted March 14, 2010 

vinny

@graham: My prime example of negotiations ruining fights that should have happened when they were in their primes is Hopkins vs Roy Jones Jr. Crazy demands from both sides ruining the fight from ever happening. Now we see them fighting each other a decade too late. Is this what we want to happen to Manny vs PBF? I know I don’t want that too happen.

I’m willing to bet you are a PBF fan and not a boxing fan. I’m just stating facts about rules and you are basing your opinions on accusations without evidence (factual evidence) not accusations made up by Floyd Sr. of all people.

Posted March 14, 2010 

clotpacboringfight

boring fight yawns!!!!! thank god i didnt pay for that garbage. watched it free online and it was still waste of time. whta a lame…..cant wait for mosley and floyd..

Posted March 14, 2010 

graham

unknown,

You mean red flags?

I’ll give you one: Pacquiao refusing to take an Olympic-style random blood test.

Posted March 14, 2010 

The Northfleet mauler

How you can lord this one up is beyond me. Clotty doesn’t throw enogh punches and it was obvious that he was gonna lose this one as soon as it was announced. You say who is going to come along and execute the game plan to beat Manny, but Marquez already did that on at least one occasion. There are a lot of up and coming fighters out there he could’ve fought, but his camp choose to fight somebody who is ultimately very beatable. At least Mayweather is fighting somebody who comes to fight and has ko power. More often than not team Manny fight a man coming off a loss or someone that is beatable in their eyes. I feel that them and Mayweather are no better than one another and the sport is worse for it. I don’t think Manny really cares who he fights, so really I am blaming his team. We all know what a knob Mayweather is, but he would beat Manny, of thiss I have little doubt>

Posted March 14, 2010 

unknown

@Graham… do you mind sharing us the red tapes you noticed? Or is this just another empty words from a Mayweather fan?

Posted March 14, 2010 

ares

@ vinny
the catchweight i was talikng about was for cotto, where cotto was FORCED to have his ww title on the line even though it was catchweight @ 145

Posted March 14, 2010 

Jinx

CLOTTEY HAS BETTER DEFENSE THAN MAYWEATHER!!!!!! WAAYYYY BETTER!!!!

Posted March 14, 2010 

graham

vinny,

Come on! How many excuses are we going to have. You are not Pacquiao? How can you come up with an excuse, especially that one.

There are a lot of things that are not required by the Commission but that has never stopped the fighters from negotiating and making the fights.

This was a private negotiation that put Pacquiao on the spot. There is no need for him to hide behind the commission rules. The Mosley-Mayweather deal has proved that this can be done.

To make things easier for everyone, why don’t we just ask Pacquiao to speak for himself. You don’t need to make excuses for him.

Posted March 14, 2010 

vinny

@ares: I didn’t say that I agreed with Manny’s $10 million dollar penalty. Take that out of the negotiations too if it makes my argument sound any better.

If I’m not mistaken the fight was set at 147lbs to begin with, there was no catch weight.

Posted March 14, 2010 

unknown

@ares
What’s the use of what I gained in training when I can’t use it at fight night? OK, during training I’m strong, I don’t feel pain, I have endurance… blah… blah… blah… but at fight night without the effect of PEDS I’m back to just being me… if the effect of PEDS stays with the fighter until fight night while it is flashed from the system then I would say there’s a need to test during training… otherwise just do the test after fight…

Posted March 14, 2010 

ares

@ vinny
you say stick to the commision rules but commisions have weight penalties in place so why did they ask for $10 million dollar penalty? the commision has penalties in place for boxers coming in over weight. the commisions also sanction ww (title)fights at a limit of 147 pound, not 145. so its ok for pac to ask for things outside of the norm but floyd can’t. sounds like a double standard to me.

Posted March 14, 2010 

inutil

boxing will become oring again once Paquiao hang his glove for good!

Posted March 14, 2010 

inutil

I dont know but it seems Paquaio is holding back a little against Clottey,the commentator noticed the same thing.
Manny could have finish Clottey in some point of the fight but it seems like his taking a pity to beat Clottey like he use to do in other opponents!

Posted March 14, 2010 

vinny

@graham: Only simple answer is because it isn’t required by any governing body of professional boxing. That doesn’t seem like a complicated answer except to die hard Mayweather fans.

I’m not a die hard Manny fan and I’m not a die hard PBF fan. I’m a boxing fan and I like watching great boxers fight each other and would like to see the two duke it out while they are both in their primes, but too much negotiations crap and too much talking makes no sense. Just stick to commission rules that have been implemented and take a 60/40 split to the winner “End of Negotiations”

Posted March 14, 2010 

unknown

oh sorry Graham… cut and paste is my secret to successfully post my comment… since sometimes clicking the Submit button fails and I don’t want to retype my comment again… if I’m on PEDS then I wouldn’t mind retyping it since I would be real fast in doing it… but since I’m not on PEDS then I will for a better way to do it…

Posted March 14, 2010 

vinny

@golden boy: I agree Clottey is a great fighter. I was expecting a stronger fight from Clottey too, but he does tend to shell up when he fights. He is usually able to use his defense in a way to punish his opponents such as Cotto, Margarito, Baldomir, and Judah. I still think he would give any WW a tough fight regardless of what just happened tonight. Just as he said this was his only true loss in his career.

Posted March 14, 2010 

graham

vinny,

Don’t let Mayweather’s “BS”, as you put, distract you from the real story here. The real story here is that a top fighter, a warrior, someone who has been involved in brutal and bloody fights, a world champion with several belts, and now voted boxer of the decade, was asked to take part in a simple blood test and this guy did everything he could think of to avoid taking the test.

This is a test standard test in other sports and there is nothing unusual about it. So why would Pacquiao refuse?

Posted March 14, 2010 

ares

@ unknown
the whole point of PED’s is not to have it in your system at fight night. its the advantages gained in training that is the benefit. this is why test taken after the fight and 30 days before is not sufficient

Posted March 14, 2010 

Golden Boy

easy fight for pacman, clottey was defending all night long. a shame because I think clottey is a very strong fighter

Posted March 14, 2010 

vinny

@iceman: You are right they give PBF too much credit for defeating Oscar by split decision. Oscar lost to Mosley, should’ve lost to Sturm, lost to Hopkins and only beat Mayorga before PBF fought him.

Floyd “Money” Mayweather also retired before the rematch with Oscar. I thought he was scared that Oscar would come more prepared in a rematch, since he had that much trouble defeating Oscar. Sounds funny to walk away from that much money in a rematch for a guy who nicknames himself Money.

Posted March 14, 2010 

leftie

“In a victory as impressive as any in Manny Pacquiao’s career…”

Stopped reading there.

Posted March 14, 2010 

graham

unknown,

No cutting and pasting please.

Posted March 14, 2010 

unknown

I think blood test after the fight is enough to determine if Manny is on PEDS… i think Manny is not stupid enough to use PEDS while on training and not use during fight night… if he do this then he will only be fooling himself… how can he guage himself during traing with PEDS when he is not using during figth night…

Posted March 14, 2010 

vinny

@graham: You said any kid could see he’s hiding something. He could be, but on the other hand any kid could see that PBF is full of BS and he’s only making all the other fighters do it now because all boxing fans would see that it was a ploy to get into Manny’s head if he didn’t require blood testing for everyone else.

Posted March 14, 2010 

iceman

same applies for manny but his feat in my eyes was alot better!!

i mean who gave him a chance!!!

floyd v marquez??? no one gave marquez a chance!!!
\
pppffftttt…!!!!!

Posted March 14, 2010 

unknown

oh sorry… I mean Graham… share the “red flags” that you notice that Manny is hiding something… of course not just because that he doesn’t want to be tested the way Floyd wants then he is into PEDS… maybe you notice something other than this… I guess you know Manny personally…

Posted March 14, 2010 

x-man

didnt I say it .ha ha,said pac would fight cottey and ko him and the same people who said he would be knock out would say its ped,ha, and some not here are from the mayweather clan.they know who they are.

Posted March 14, 2010 

iceman

i kind of agree with vinny here.

and people forget!!!!!! floyd beat a shot ova the hill oscar! BY SPLIUT DECISION!!!!!!

SPLIT DECISION!!!!!!!
OSCAR IN HIS PRIME???? COME ON!!!!!

Posted March 14, 2010 

vinny

@ unknown: I didn’t say anything about red flags, it’s graham saying there are red flags ask him.

Posted March 14, 2010 

iceman

its such a shame! no matter what pacman does the haters remain!

shame on u guys!

Posted March 14, 2010 

unknown

@ Vinny… what red flags? can you share it with us?

Posted March 14, 2010 

graham

vinny,

I was watching a program last night about Bernie Madoff and the $65 Billion swindle. I couldn’t help noticing the parallels with Pacquiao’s Olympic-style random blood testing issue. There are so many red flags here that even a kid can see that Pacquiao is hiding something. Really, if you can’t see the red flags then you are in denial. Just like those investors who got cheated by Madoff.

As far as his story goes, I have said it before, it sounds nice. “Rags to Riches” is good, but “Rags to PEDs to Riches” is a disgrace.

Posted March 14, 2010 

iceman

just pathetic sum of the excuses! PATHETIC!

Posted March 14, 2010 

Simon D

IT LOOK TO ME LIKE HE GOT PAID NOT TO HITBACK,lets see what happens in the May /Mos

Posted March 14, 2010 

ares

its impossible to know if pac is using PED’s if he won’t take the kind of tests which are best at catching cheats. but i thing we do know for sure is that his behavior is making him look like a cheat. he can get floyd in the ring and prove he is a clean fighter by agreeing the OST. he says hell only follow commision rules but at the same time asks for $10 million fines and catchweights. Pretty strange indeed.

Posted March 14, 2010 

vinny

I posted this on another article, but it is relevant to some posts on here:

There is no way to predict the outcome of a Manny vs PBF battle. Both of these fighters have the skills to pull off the win. PBF has mad boxing skills, but doesn’t have the power to put Manny away. Manny has superior offensive skills, but can he hit PBF enough to win the fight or KO him? They both have speed, but at the moment Manny has more impressive wins at WW then PBF does.

I think the PBF vs Mosley fight is going to be the determination of whether PBF is really that good at WW. Mosley is the arguably the best WW in the business right now and if PBF dominates Mosley than Manny is going to have his hands full fighting PBF, but if PBF has problems with Mosley or even loses than he shouldn’t even think about getting in the ring with Manny.

Posted March 14, 2010 

wiseass

what is it with idiots who jump on bandwagons, have they not got minds of their own! Manny is not on peds,if he was taking steroids he would easily put the extra 2 pounds on to get up to 147, as it is he weighed 145. Mayweathers are just ignorant arrogant ass holes! Its easy to put muscle on with the right kind of training and diet. I once put on ten pounds of muscle in less than 4 months! so people who talk about manny like the do are ignorant mayweather loving sheeple!

Posted March 14, 2010 

Haroon Abbasi

Cottey was afraid of being hit and covered up for most of the fight. That said you have to respect Cottey who was by no means disgraced and did ask a few troubling questions of the Pacman.

In particular, I didn’t like Pacman being careless about defence and taking some heavy uppercuts from Cottey whilst trying to prise him out of this shell.

Towards the end of the fight, Pacman appeared to markedly tire and his punch-rate and power seemed to drop off. I think Mayweather’s exceptional speed and body movement would present an altogether different and intriguing challenge for the Pacman. Mayweather will have seen enough here to suggest he could win what would be a close, hard fought battle.

A good, intriguing fight for purists even if it wasn’t as dramatic as Pacman’s previous fights.

Posted March 14, 2010 

santiperes

Hey guys did you see the illegal punch of Manny that made the referee warned him? That was funny, a two fisted attack on Clotteys both ears done at the same time..bwahahahaha!!!! never seen it before in boxing.

Posted March 14, 2010 

rat-a-too

pac won it from the outside his jab was busy tonight. we didnt see much angle punches as on the inside pac dig to the body,but the jab was holding cottey away and pac was backing up when cottey punched and then came forward to counter all from the outside,just like I predicted.
if cottey had more balls we would have seen a knock down.

Posted March 14, 2010 

golden boxer

i hope clottey never fights on ppv again the guy only showed up to survive and collect his paycheck

Posted March 14, 2010 

P0uch

Cl0ttey,was n0t d perfect match 4 pacquiao.. And i thnk b0xers shud n0t set parameters, i wud agree w/ juan,dirty s0uth kept on saying ab0ut ster0ids,wil i gues his a peahead.. mayweather is just on a mind game.and i think mayweather is just afraid..haha.. The truth is ‘thinkers r d0ers’haha, dirty s0uth ur mind is like in prehistoric times.g0 many..

Posted March 14, 2010 

Elijah

Simply the worst ppv i ever ordered. Big mistake. No exciting knock outs,no exciting exchanges, just a complete waste of money. But i am a die hard boxing fan so it comes with the love of the sport.

Posted March 14, 2010 

vinny

@graham: How can you be so sure that Manny is on PEDS. I’m a big fan of boxing, but would you really want your kids getting into boxing because they idolized somebody like the Mayweathers?

Manny’s story is coming from poverty in a third world country, which makes poverty here in the US look like luxury living. Isn’t that the American dream making something of yourself from nothing? Or is it just for americans?

I agree that if he is on PEDS than yes it tarnishes his record, but the fact is there is no evidence besides the fact that he is whooping on everyones a$$. Rumors started by jealous or even scared competitors and their fathers.

Posted March 14, 2010 

kray

After seeing this fight, it’s plain to see that these two men have NO business fighting one another. They have WAY too much respect, for one another. It was a virtual love fest in there. Too much smiling and cutesy stuff. I’ve NEVER seen Clottey so passive in there. He did not fight his fight at all. Pac did what he was expected to do. He followed Roach’s plan exactly…just throw punches. The fight was won on work rate, and the fact Clottey would not take ANY chances. Did Clottey have a plan at all? Oh yeah, block most of Pac’s punches, and throw back a few in return. He just looked so happy to be there, not like someone coming to seize the opportunity. When Clottey countered, you got a sense of what COULD happen, if he, actually, picked up the momentum.

Man, I’ve seen better performances from this Guy. But, it’s obvious he is satisfied with mediocrity. Hell, at least he made the most money, he’s ever made in 15 year career. Anyway…moving on…

Posted March 14, 2010 

beck

Ghana figfter clottey no.1 loser,loser,loser go back to ur fishin”village

Posted March 14, 2010 

graham

Ryan,

Is that the best you can do? Come on polish it up a bit more!

We don’t want people using PEDs in boxing. Boxing has enough problems as it is. A record built on PEDs does not mean anything, and is nothing to be proud of, or admired at. Using PEDs is cheating, and stealing money from the sport and the paying public. PEDs users should not be praised, this simply sends out the wrong signals to other boxers.

Why should we be telling young boxers that they can juice up and get away with it? Is this wise?

This is the time when we should be encouraging the young ones to get into the sport. But which parent will allow their kids to get involved in what is becoming a seedy sport.

It would appear that the only way that boxers will get any credit today is if they use PEDs themselves. How else can they compete with people who are obviously taking PEDs and are doing everything they can, not to get caught?

Posted March 14, 2010 

bongskie

clottey did not come to fight he just wants to prove to the crowd that he`ll be standing at the end of the fight. when it rains you shelter with a brolley and not get wet. clottey couldn`t just throw punches it`s just too much from manny.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Simon

@ Gar 30

I share your disappointment for Clottey and praise for Pac. As the saying goes, it needs two to tango.

Posted March 14, 2010 

P0uch..

I think b0xers,are n0t all0wed to set parameters, mayweather d0es,who the hell is he?and he kept on saying that he is on ster0ids.whaa…he is just jeal0us and indeed a c0ward,or may i call ‘mayweather’. Thinkers r d0ers,mayweather,maybe d 0ne using.haha.l0l.. Dirty s0uth is just a peahead.

Posted March 14, 2010 

MarathonMan1

You can say what you want about Manny but after tonight he has dominated all comers. Call it what you want but its going to take a intellagent fighter to match the intensity level Manny brings. Clottey was in there with a live wire. Everytime he tried to touch Manny he was charged for real estate. Manny UD. Don’t hate!

Posted March 14, 2010 

gar 30

I am a little disapointed in Joshua Clottey I have to say, this is a big strong WELTERWEIGHT and someone I have enjoyed watching in the last couple of years and respected, I didn’t think for one minute he was going to win this fight but I also didn’t think he was going to be so gun shy, at first I thought Clottey was using near perfect tactics (good defence and counter punching with effect and saving some energy for the second half of the fight) surely from round 8 onwards with the referee who told him to throw more punches or he was going to stop it, HE HAD TO GO FOR BROKE!

I am happy Manny won the fight but at the same time I feel Clottey was a beaten man before he got in the ring!!

Congratulations Manny Pacquiao you can only beat the guy in front of you and you tried to bring Clottey out of that shell like defence and make it a fight, even taking some shots that you didn’t have to! What can you do if he doesn’t want to fight???

Posted March 14, 2010 

Punch Drunk

@DIRTY $outh Same old Question Over And Over again.Go back on these
blogs and you will get your answer about 2,000 times. STEROIDS!!!!!!!!!!!! Give us a break

Posted March 14, 2010 

Ryan Dunn

@Dirty South

They need to produce cause for suspicion first, not wild speculation. Then after that they need to lobby and petition the governing body to change the testing protocol. After all, that’s what I would do if I were trying to clean up the sport of boxing.

It isn’t going to happen in a fight negotiation, nor should it.

Is that enough of an answer for you?

…ryan

Posted March 14, 2010 

Clark Kent

we are so used to pacquiao knocking people out that anything less seems a disappointment. But think about it. throwing in an average of one punch every two seconds in a welterweight is an accomplishment in itself and showing no sign of slowing down towards the end of the fight. As per pac’s comment, Clottey was a tough opponent in such a way that pac also expects to knock him out but was not able to. Clottey did admit that of all the losses in his resume, this is one fight that he was sure that he really lost. great fight!

Posted March 14, 2010 

unknown

if Manny only continued hurting Clottey in the body… his guard will go down exposing his head… and a chance for a KO… and besides body shots can also give Clottey a KO…

Posted March 14, 2010 

juan_t

Dirtysouth, manny always get tested according to the commissions guideline, who the hell is mayweather to demand olympic style testing.. he should go back to amateur if thats what he wants..yes amateur stupid boy.. your ladyboy floyd is playing games and too bad manny is not stupid enough to dance with him..

Posted March 14, 2010 

dayyammmm

lol at the suckers who paid for that sy PPV.

Worst undercard ever (JLC quits on his stool in a complete crap fight…wtf??). David Diaz? LOL, you need any further evidence why they cherrypicked him for Pac at 135? Duddy = complete embarassment.

And the main event of “The Event?” shake.my.head. That wasn’t even a fight. That was a training session open to the public featuring Pac throwing combos on a human heavybag.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Punch Drunk

Anyone know the seat count

Posted March 14, 2010 

whose the man

clottey is just happy to be there, thinking how lucky he has been.

winning? who cares about it?

he’ll be singing on the way to his bank

Posted March 14, 2010 

unknown

I think Manny could have KO Clottey if he continued doing the body shots to the stomach and the sides… didn’t you see Clottey “dancing” and shaking his legs (several times) when he was hit at the side? I think he felt Manny’s power… I’m wondering wht Manny did not keep on doing it when it looks like it is effective…

Posted March 14, 2010 

mario

Great read Ryan

Posted March 14, 2010 

amunks

Clottey just wanted to collect his paycheck and not get knocked out…

Posted March 14, 2010 

fan

This was the worst PPV in the history of boxing. The undercard was just boring. The main event was also very boring.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Simon

Ryan, great article. All you’ve stated are nothing but the truth. Your true character shows by the expression of your objectivity and fairness. Keep it up!

Posted March 14, 2010 

boxer 101

Clottey’s a bog disappointment. He fought to survive. That’s why nobody’s watching his fights.

Posted March 14, 2010 

Boxing WTF??

Pacquiao vs Clottey match is the preview of the Pacquiao vs Mayweather..

If you think the fight with Clottey was lackluster.. Wait until you see the fight with Mayweather (boring)..

One guys hides behind his shell.. while the other will runs like the wind..

Pacquiao vs Mosley.. fight of the year.. Dont want to see 12 rounds of dancing.. I hope Mosley Knocks Out Mayweather in the midst of dancing around.. hahahaha

Posted March 14, 2010 

anon

I was expecting a KO but better yet he destroyed clottey not only physically but mentally even clottey’s trainer is fed up with him.. you should take chances hes fighting the current king of boxing and this all he got? too afraid to fight head on?

Good game Manny

Posted March 14, 2010 

straightup

Another excellent article from Dunn. Easily and by far the best writer on this site. Almost everything else on here seems to be just hate mail. Keep it up, ‘s great to read.

Posted March 14, 2010 

boxer 101

If Cotto can’t seriously hurt Pac, What can Juanma bring? It’s gonna be a walkover. Just imagine how Juanma fare against Cotto. It’s gonna be a massacre.

Don’t even know if he Juanma can get past Gamboa. I’m leaning on Gamboa if ever they fight.

Posted March 14, 2010 

vince vegas

I love boxing but I was very dissapointed. It was the first time I’ve started yawning during a Pacquiao fight.

If Clottey had let his hands go this could have been a competitive (well, more competitive) event. What if Clottey got countered & Pac knocked him on his behind? So what. He’s a tough guy but no one has ever mistaken him for an elite fighter.

Clottey came to collect a check, no more, no less.

On a positive note; The fact the fight drew over 50,000 attendance shows boxing still has a pulse & could potentially draw large numbers & gain fans if events were held in big venues around the country.

Will that happen? Personally I think Arum is perfectly happy riding in his limo the six miles from his house to the MGM & receiving a fat site fee from the casino. This event seemed an attempt by Arum to clean the egg off his face when Goldenboy & Co. cancelled a meeting with Jerry Jones, billionaire stadium owner, during the Pac/ Mayweather negotiations.

Arum wants a seat at the next Billonaire Boys Club Barbeque down in good old Texas & kissin Jones a** is a sure way to confirm an invitation.

Posted March 14, 2010 

boxer 101

It’s very clear that it takes two great fighters willing to take the chance to make a great match. Pac was exciting, but putting him there with a defensive minded, safety first, unwilling to take a chance fighter makes the fight uninteresting. I’d rather see Pac Mosley next than Pac-Mayweather. This is a prelude to the Mayweather fight, just like the dela hoya Mayweather fight, it’s not gonna be exciting at all. Pac would chase him all over and Floyd would run and pot shot him. Imagine that for 12 rounds.

Pac vs Mosley or Williams. Bring it on.

Posted March 14, 2010 

T from The Bronx

The fighter that will bring Pacquiao down to his knees will be Juanma from Puerto Rico. Mark my word Wepa..¤

Posted March 14, 2010 

bangus banger

At the end of the night, Clottey care to just be there still standing. Not to be a KO statistic for Manny. Well, the respect goes two ways and fans didn’t see him give it his all. His career maybe shot after this performance. Any up and coming welterweights like Berto would probably fight him to “gauge” but not in any championship caliber fights.

Posted March 14, 2010 

JosephBTS

Awesome!!! That’s Manny Pacquiao. It really shows Clottey was fighting scared. But what can you do if you face Manny Pacquiao in the ring. That’s what 50,000 people paid to see, boxing power and talent. Even in television, we could feel the power of Pacquiao punches. Awesome!!!!!

Posted March 14, 2010 

Guvo

These biggers guy’s are no stronger and are to slow for Pacquiao. Next has to be Floyd then Manny can take his pick on whom and how much.Bradley,Alexander,Valero,Gamboa, would all be more exciting for the boxing fans than moving up to light middle or middleweights

Posted March 14, 2010 

JusMe

cant say I expected anything different….It’ll be interesting to see how this all shakes out.

Posted March 14, 2010