Arum wants Rios-Alvarado winner to fight Pacquiao in April
October 10th, 2012 | Post Comment
(Photo credit: Chris Farina – Top Rank) By Chris Williams: In a move that’s not all that surprising, Top Rank promoter Bob Arum is reportedly interested in putting the winner of this Saturday’s clash between Top Rank stable fighters Mike Alvarado (33-0, 23 KO’s) and Brandon Rios (30-0-1, 22 KO’s) in with his number #1 cash cow fighter Manny Pacquiao next year in April in a Top Rank in house fight.
Arum told the Manila Standard that a fight between Pacquiao and the winner of the Rios-Alvarado fight “Could be unbelievable. The public would go crazy for that fight. Imagine Manny against either of these animals. Manny will have to become an animal himself.”
Like I said, this isn’t unexpected because Arum tends to put a lot of in house fights together with his stable of fighters and he’s pretty much run out of guys to throw in there with Pacquiao after exhausting most of stable. In the last three years, Arum has put the following Top Rank fighters in with Pacquiao: Miguel Cotto, Joshua Clottey, Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosley and Tim Bradley. Things have gotten so bad that Pacquiao is fighting 39-year-old Juan Manuel Marquez for a fourth time in December. And this probably won’t be the last time we see Marquez and Pacquiao fighting.
If Brandon Rios emerges as the winner of this Saturday’s fight with Alvarado there’s going to likely be a lot of criticism of Arum if he chooses to match Rios with Pacquiao because a lot of boxing fans aren’t impressed with Rios as a fighter. They also feel that Rios should have lost his last fight against Richard Abril, who made Rios look real bad in out-boxing him in what appeared to be an easy win. Some boxing fans think Abril was ripped off for that fight to keep Rios, with his big money making potential, an unbeaten fighter.
At this point I think either Rios or Alvarado would give Manny problems because he’s starting to lose it now and isn’t fighting hard for the full three minutes of every round. I don’t see either Alvarado or Rios as the best fighters at light welterweight, but they might be good enough to outwork a fading Pacquiao, who has lost a few steps from age in the last year.
I don’t know if a Pacquiao-Rios or Pacquiao-Alvarado would be a big fight, however. Neither of those guys are big stars, and even if their fight this Saturday turns out to be an exciting affair, I don’t see them emerging as well known fighters with casual boxing fans. It takes a long time to get known to casual fans because they don’t follow every fight of the sport. At the end of the day, I see a Pacquiao vs. Alvarado or Pacquiao vs. Rios as doing about the same PPV numbers as Pacquiao vs. Tim Bradley did. We probably will never find out what kind of numbers will be, because I doubt HBO will release them. We never found out from HBO what the Pacquiao-Bradley final PPV numbers were for some reason. However, Arum, Top Rank and Pacquiao will do really well because it’s an in house fight for the company and Rios and/or Alvarado won’t be able to command big pay for the fight because they’re not huge stars. That means more money for Pacquiao and company.
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@GAZ
YOUR EMOTION, GAZ… CONTROL YOUR EMOTION.
IT’S BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH AS FLOYD, JR. TOLD US THAT FIGHTING PACQUIAO IS VERY BAD TO HIS HEALTH.
MYCHAEL PERRY IS VERY CONCERN ABOUT MANNY PACQUIAO’S BOXING CAREER MOVE. HE MUST BE PAC’S FAN.
I THINK HIS ANXIETY SHOULD FOCUS ON FLOYD MAYWEATHER, JR. WHO IS KEEPING ON HIDING DOWN THE BASEMENT OF HIS HOUSE.
JUST PURCHASE YOUR PPV RIGHTS, CLEAN YOUR HOUSE, BUY A DOZEN OF LAGERLITE OR HIENEKEN, AND WAIT TIL DECEMBER 8.
ENJOY AND LET’S HAVE FUN WATCHING THE LEGEND AND DINAMITA ON THEIR FOURHT ENCOUNTER!
here are the 10 WW from espn:
Devon Alexander (23-1) fighting Bailey in Oct
Kell Brook (28-0) fighting Saldivia in Oct
Victor Ortiz (29-4-2) out due to injury
Josesito Lopez (30-5) fought at LMW in Sept.
Robert Guerrero (30-1-1) may fight in Dec.
Paulie Malignaggi (31-4) fighting Cano in Oct.
Jan Zaveck (32-2) out due to injury back in Dec.
Andre Berto (28-1) may fight in Dec.
Timothy Bradley Jr. (29-0) looking for a big fight.
Manny Pacquiao (54-4-2) fighting in Marquez in Dec.
From this list of WW, Pacman could have fought Bradley(Has his Belt), Berto, Guerrero(Has a belt).
But he is fighting JWW Marquez who he fought 3 other times, that has no Belt at WW not fight for his belt at JWW. And is listed at number 5 on the espn JWW rankings. And the Next possible fight, which was said to sell more tickets for both fights. Is to more JWW ranked 7 and 10. How are you going to want your fans to claim you are the best, not fighting the best in your weight class, and not keeping or wanting to keep a Championship belt.
But Pacman’s fans question why FMJ wont fight at MW. Or I should write Sergio Martinez the number 1 ranked in MW that has a belt.
Alvarado Rios WAR! Cant miss this one! Fireworks & all! Not on ppv nice. good s
Some 1 please shoot Bob Arum” In the Name of Boxing! YA TU SABE”
@ eman
why dont you just shut your mouth, you were on other pacquaio articles yeaterday acting like pacquaio is a god, all fillipinos are great and you phrase your comments like you work for top rank or are part of pacs entourage, try seeing the boxing world through the average boxing fans eyes instead of seeing it through pacquaios a
THERE ARE MANY PROFESSIONAL BOXER WHO HELD MORE WINS WITH ZERO LOSS RECORD THAN FLOYD MAYWEATHER, JR. BEFORE THEY LOST OR RETIRED.
THERE ARE COUPLE OF DOZENS OF THEM.
PAC IS THE ONLY PROFESSIONAL BOXER IN THE WORLD WHO HOLDS THE TITLE “8 DIVISION CHAMPION.
ALONE ON THE TOP.
NO ONE ELSE.
NOW, TELL ME… WHO IS GREATER THAN WHO ?
He is gona make another 135 pounder come all the way up to 147 to face manny and its crazy… He night as well try to set up a fight vs broner…. Catch weight of 142 pounds…. That fight would make a lot of money… Too bad broner has been looking too good no way of that happening.
@MY SUZIE Q
THANKS FOR YOUR CONCERN ABOUT ARUM
FOCUSING HIS SIGHT TO OTHER OPPONENTS AGAINST PAC.
FLOYD’S BOXING CAREER TO SURVIVE IS TO AVOID AND DUCK PAC.
I THINK ARUM AND FLOYD, JR. ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT AND THEY CONCLUDED IN FLOYD’S WIN-WIN SOLUTION.
HE’S TIRED OF CHASING FLOYD, JR.
ARUM THOUGHT CHASING A SCARED MOUSE IS FOOLISHNESS.
Yeah, a good fight for pacman. These two fighters–Alvarado and Rios are easy prey for Pacman. Just brawlers.. No footwork, no head movements…. a literal punching bags.
hi tech, you know when pacman was on top of his game he dictated all the terms to his opponents, well now he isnt on top of his game, he has no world titles & mayweather is totally on top of his game & hold 2 different weight world titles, well knowing that information only a dipstick pinoy would still suggest that pacman calls any of the shots.
I’m agree with Alvarado – Rios winner vs Matthysse. This will be a very good fight, and the winner will face Pacquiao.
I believe a ALVARADO VS PAQUIAO OR RIOS VS PAQUIAO WOULD MAKE MORE MONEY THAN PAQUIAO VS BRADLEY CAUSE THEIR MEXICAN FIRST OF ALL RIOS HAS A BIGGER FOLLOWING THAN ALVARADO SO THEY COULD EASILY MAKE 1MILLION PPV BUYS JUST BECAUSE THEIR MEXICAN AND MEXICANS FOLLOW THE SPORT OF BOXING MORE THAN ANY OTHER RACE AND IS THE BIGGEST POPULATION IN THE UNITED STATES THATS Y ORTIZ VS MAYWEATHER DID GOOD NUMBERS CAUSE ORTIZ IS MEXICAN SO ITS GONNA BE THE SAME WITH RIOS AND ALVARADO CAUSE THEIR MEXICAN THEIR GONNA DO GOOD NUMBERS WITH PAQUIAO
Why do people believe Bob Arum and Manny Pacquiao should wait for Floyd Mayweather? Who is Floyd Mayweather fighting next Big Show or Daniels Bryan?
Who wants to see that? Rios just moved up in weight, Alvarado is not even on Bradley’s league in terms of selling tickets. There’s only one fight left for Pacquiao and that’s Mayweather.
Since Bradley pulled out against Peterson, why not let him fight Mathysse? Then winners of Mathysse-Bradley vs Rios/Alvarado
Juice lol honestly i do think they’ll get it on late next year though both seem like their past the blame game and r serious about making the fight.
@REM
You’re partially right; however, how much money you think PAC would make fighting in his own country? The “thrilla in Manila”.
I seriously doubt it or else he would be fighting back home.
Arum is the ruin of boxing period
Juice none of that matters. As long as Floyd cant do the #s with anyone else that he will do with Pac he’s entittled to half Floyd needs Pac to do rec. #s. And dont act like theres a big enough difference Floyd only does a little better in his own country against a foreign fighter. Pac is setting records for a foreign fighter in domestic ppv revenue.
how about the mike alvarado-brandon rios winner versus lucas matthyse ?….what a great division !!!
All BS aside; prior Mayweather fights with similar opponents to Pacquiao have made more money than PAC’s fights. Whether you like it or not, MAY is still undefeated and PAC has several loses. You cannot expect equal pay for both fighters.
PAC has a very tough fight in front of him on JMM, which by the way, I think he’ll lose. If PAC loses this fight, PAC couldn’t even ask for 30% against MAY.
We’ll see!
Pacroid there were multiple negotiations from the time Floyd fought Hatton until he fought Mosley it wasnt just that 1 time offer for example outside of the one ur talking about how about the 1 were Arum set the deadline for Floyd to accept before he put Pac in with sumone else. I followed the negotiations i know what im talking about. And this fight is guaranteed to do rec. #s both r 1 mil. ppv buy draws i dont care who Pac “lost” to he’s entittled to half due to his drawing power he’s just willing to do whatever to make the dight happen but Floyd don’t want it plain and simple.
Marquez is pacquiaos daddy ..
pac vs mayweather is no more for good dont blaming each other thank you.
reply to REM
Stop with your B.S rem,After Pacroids turned down the 14 days cutoof on testing Floyd offered him Floyd said the 14 day cutoff offer is off the table and that next time they negotiate that Pacquiao has to do a random testing with no cutoffs date.Then Pacquiao come in agreeing to the 14 day cutoff on testing knowing that Floyd said a 14 day cutoff is off the table.
Then later Pacquiao lost to Marquez which drop his stocks then pacroids said he`d be willing to take less money to do the fight.THen when Floyd offered him 40 mil Pacquiao turned it down and asked for 50%.And there`s no proof that a potential fight between the 2 is gonna do 200 mil,not with Pac losing his last 2 fights and all.
bob arum will never put manny in with a young guy especially who can sugg! that’s why bob is avoiding lucas matthyse.. he had a chance to promote him but it was too risky of a move especially if he matched him against manny and knowing lucas has a real small fan base, he let golden boy keep him instead!
Rios is not a PPV fighter and never will be as he draws no fans and is a bottom feeder.
@Pain Language,
No matter how much you explain to Floidiots, they NEVER understand. Even though Floyd admitted he beat his woman in front of his own children, Floidiots still denied; while Floyd was in prison, Floidiots still defended their inmate; even though Floyd has d.u.c.k.e.d. Manny Pacquiao for over three years, Floidiots still don’t see. Well, some people take more one lifetime to learn cowardice.
I bet Arum can sell Pinoys a cluster of islands in the Pacific. Only after he’s dead and buried would they realize the islands he sold them were Philippine islands.
Rios Sucks, Pacquiao is an idiot for signing another contract, and Arum needs to go away. Screw Top Rank!
FLOYDIOTS,
DON’T BLAME BOB ARUM ALL THE TIMES. WHY DON’T YOU BLAME MAYWEATHER’S MANAGER LEONARD ELLERBE? HE JUST TOLD LA TIMES THAT THE ONLY WAY THE FIGHT BETWEEN PACQUIAO AND MAYWEATHER WILL HAPPEN IS IF HIS SIDE DICTATES ALL THE TERMS. YES, YOU HEAR IT RIGHT, ALL THE TERMS. HOW WOULD A FIGHT HAPPEN IF ONE PARTY DICTATES ALL THE TERMS? IF THAT PARTY IS REALLY SERIOUS, WILL THEY DEMAND ALL TERMS TO BE DICTATED BY THEM? TALK LIKE THAT TELLS YOU FLOIDIOTS, PAC’S FANS AND ALL BOXING FANS THAT TEAM MAYWEATHER HAS NEVER WANTED AND NEVER WILL WANT TO FIGHT MANNY PACQUIAO.
Realistically what kind of ppv #s would a fight with 1 of these 2 do. It’ll never happen dont be so gullible.
Rios is a bottom feeder like a carp. low class loser. Paq should fight a better caliber of fighter as Rios brings nothing to the ring but sewer smells.
Pac asked for a 24 day cutoff point for rbts Floyd said 14. Pac agrees and Floyd said no 7 days but ARUMS STOPPING THE FIGHT. Pac again compromises and agrees to 7 days but Floyd again changes his position to up to the day of the fight BUT ARUMS STOPPING THE FIGHT. Pac again compromises and agrees so Floyd retires lmfao BUT ARUMS STOPPING THE FIGHT. Floyd returns to fight Ortiz and says Pac ur next then when asked about it he says i didnt say that WOW BUT ARUMS STOPPING THE FIGHT. Floyd offers Pac 40 mil for a fight that will do 200 mil bcuz of Pac BUT ARUMS STOPPING THE FIGHT. Thats alot more than saying a cut won’t be healed and wanting to build a new stadium
All you Pinoys that defend Arum are sell outs. Its obvious for what ever reason that Arum is trying to run Manny into the ground. Hes already on a 2 fight losing streak. Marquez wins it will be 3. Still no stadium. The defamation suit is settled. Here we go saying MAYWEATHER, just to sell this fight that no one wants but down and out Pinoys. April? Already have a fight lined up? Rios or Alvarado? Are you serious? Arum got you Pinoys stupid.
i hope jmm knocks out manny tired of this cherry picking and catchweight crap
Alvarado and Rios are just a possibility for Pacquiao, the April 20 fight date is just a plan, they don’t reserve any arenas or anything, please! don’t give Floyd and his floydiots any excuses to duck Pacquiao.
Pacquiao entertain Americans for pay and entertain Filipinos for free. that’s right people, Filipinos watch the fight for free, sponsors pay the bill.
I think Arum just want to snub broner of a fight with someone out of his stable.
HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO COOK THE CHICKEN(FLOYD)? I MEAN HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE FLOYD TO GROW ENOUGH CONFIDENCE TO FACE MANNY PACQUIAO BEFORE MR. CONGRESSMAN RETIRES?
Chris, that’s only if Mayweather d.u.c.k.s. Pacquiao again next Spring.
Mayweather, tell the world NOW that you want Manny Pacquiao for next Spring of 2013? Ooops, I forgot that Mayweather is SCARED OF MANNY PACQUIAO.
Pacquiao sucks ass Mayweather would destroy him. Brandon Rios has no business getting in the ring with Pacquiao he’s garbage
Ya see this is bulls..t no wonder ufc is getting so big
What a joke pacman still cherry picking his fighters. Alvarado and Rios are smaller specially Rios that he is moving up from 135. I beat pacman will still ask for a catchweight this is your idol pacman’s fans what a joke.
If pacman had a sack he will fight mathize,Ortiz,berto,maidana, even khan. @154lb cotto or Alvarez even martinez.
Like how Arum matches Pac up with next opponent to avoid the Mayweather fight how the hell Pac fans ignore this is amazing, I aint fussed if the fight happens or not because it won’t be no mega fight just a one sided sparring session, Pac won’t have an answer to Mayweather in the ring other than the usual NO NO NO I don’t want to fight routine.
Rios is more garbage than anything else and has no fans.
somone said that if pac fights rios or alvarado…the manny pacquioa fans would be upset????/lolol……….manny fans are from the philipines….they dont know any other boxer then manny pacqioa…thats why he sells so much becus they do not know any other boxer……manny can fight my grandmother and still make money….becus the phiilipinos dont buy it to watch the fight…they pay to watch manny pacquioa
Pac haters r hilarious r y’all from a parallel universe where Pac constantly changed his demands and purposely priced himself out of the fight to avoid it. Y’all just ain’t gonna let facts get in ur way huh.
With Mayweather chicken out, Pacquiao doesn’t have who to fight anymore for some time.
Chris if pacquiao was fighting a child you would say that PAC might have problems in the fight.
Lmao it would b more humane to throw one of these 2 in with a hungry lion. Give Pac problems get real.
More of his inhouse BS. Arum needs to retire.
these two are just kid in boxing,,, Arum jokes again.
Wow. Uncle Bob was the one talkin all that s*^t about pac and May doin a double header next year. Where in the hell is this coming from? Oh yea, he has always knew that pac would be embarrassed by Floyd. Lot of smoke, as usual
@Anonymous,
You can’t defend this like everything else Arum and Pacquiao do, so you turn your aggression on Chris. Not that I always agree with his articles, but this is not his fault. This only proves what you have been afraid to admit, Arum will never let Pacquiao fight Mayweather as long as he has the ultimate choice.
Well, I predicted this at 8 AM. Its rare that you can predict something scheduled to happen six months in the future and have it proven true within hours….
i feel sorry for pacquiao. not only is he gonna look bad against marquez yet again, i don’t like his chances against rios. i believe rios will destroy alvarado and put a whuppin on pacquiao.
This is a Joke for boxing!
pac vs ríos = WAR.
@ froy
U got a great point. When Marquez ko’s Pacman, Pacman vs Alvarado/Rios would actually make alot of sense. But only if Pacman drops down to 140 where they fight.
Pacman vs Alvarado/Rios??? LAME booooo This would be a HUGE backward step for Pacman. These guys are small. This would make Pacman’s fans extremely upset.
nobody cares who pacquiao fights next…he might even lose his next fight against marquez
Yet more proof that Arum doesn’t want to put Manny in the ring with Floyd…Manny might want it, but if he lets Arum call all the shots, the publics perception will be that Manny doesn’t want it either.
Ducking Floyd again.
So Arum still finds away to pimp Pac and duck Floyd. Wow !
well done bob arum, get manny to sign with you for another two years and start by putting him in with an absolute bum, if manny doesnt see that bob arum has no interest in helping give the fans what they want then the little fillipino puppet aint worth watching anymore
Pacquiao has many opponents willing to step cuz they got balls. We’re talking about Jr WW like
Maidana, Mathysse, Garcia, Alexander, Khan and Alvarado. The list is deep. In the Welterweight division you have Kell Brook, Malignaggi, Bradley, Bailey, berto, Lopez and Ortiz. Any of these guys will be a great action packed fight. Except for Bradley of course. He suffers from the same case of illness as Mosely. Run Forrest run!
@Yard
They will defend this to the depths. Tards will go all out to justify this foolishness. It wouldn’t even crack 250,000 buys. They love the kool-aid man.
Lets see the fight and see what happens. Might be a good call
Good to hear! Alvarado coming up
BOXING TRANSFORMED FROM BEING A SPORT OF PROVING WHO’S BESTTO A BUSINESS OF PROVING WHO’S GOT IT…AND MONEY DOES. PAC KNOWS HE CAN’T BEAT MAYWEATHER AND KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT POLITICS IN BOXING LET ALONE WHATEVER THE HELL IS GOING ON IN HIS NATIVE COUNTRY. HE ALWAYS SAYS WHEN ASKED WHO’S NEXT “WHOEVER MY PROMOTER PICKS”.
U KNOW WHAT SUCKS THO…THE SAME PPL B!TCHING ABOUT THIS RE-SIGNING ARE THE SAME PPL LACING ARUMS POCKETS
You pactards know that every time you spend money to see Manny (your idol, you worship the ground he walks on), you are killing the good fights!! Stop defending every thing Manny does. You tards know that no boxing fans (even pactards) were asking for a 4th Marquez fight before he siged 100 years old Juan Marquez.
hahaha… rios and Alvardo are bums
Now he’s talking. Alvarado is no joke and if the Mayweather-Pacman soap opera doesn’t end, this fight could be a good alternative. Let’s not write out Marquez yet, 39 or not, he’s got Pacman’s number and could get through the 7th or 8th time…
The whole point of working in life is to eventually ‘BE YOUR OWN BOSS & CALL YOUR OWN SHOTS’. Why work for Arum forever!!?? Pac is an employee, Floyd is a boss. Floyd’s been paying Goldenboy a flat fee, NOT a percentage, to help promote his fights since 2007, so staying an un-signed fighter allows Floyd to keep majority of his earnings. Its the reason why Floyd was named #1 by forbes for worlds richest athlete with NO endorsments. Pac has a number of endorsments plus boxing earnings and still is #2 behind Floyd. Ppl talk how Pac is so loved all over the world and has more fans than Floyd, but where are they at ppv time????? Floyd beats him there too. Ppl brag about how Pac holds congressional office in the Phillipines, but he doesnt control his own boxing career. Someone please explain that. He’s at a point that he can promote his own fights with his name alone. A Floyd vs Pac fight would not need too much help of a major promoter. I just dont get it. Is Pac really that dumb to re-sign….Or is something else going on???? Does Arum know something about the PED’s story that we dont…. And anyway Floyd would beat Pacquaio, 4yrs ago or today. Period!!!
ITS BEEN COMING FOR THE LAST 2 YRS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep let paq fight the smaller guys. Tell paq to fight at home in the land of the mud huts and shacks and poverty.
Hey BOB kiss my A ?
Surpise Surprise! Alvarado and Bam Pot Rios? What a joke? Ricky Burns would beat these two guys no problem?
Who cares.
Let me see people defend manny fighting the winner of this fight… Its an absolute joke.
Hey arum what do you mean that “The public would go crazy for that fight” have you asked the boxing fans about this suggestion???
There are a few fighters that us boxing fans want to see Manny involved in and i’m not sure that Rios or Alvarado are included in that list.
this guy has no idea what hes talking about…………….1st of all…..obviously this is the last time for manny and JMM to fight……chris williams just goes by past history….he dosnt have a brain of his own………..2nd of all……rios and alvarado do have potential to become big names after this 1 fight………look at victor ortiz and andre berto after their fight of the year…………it takes 1 exciting fight of the year type fight to make you a star……………i guess chris williams dosnt watch boxing……he only reads about it
Arum is a greedy, rich, slick, pathetic slumbucket promoter. Wow. He’s gotta be joking.
Trust me guys, I know what is best for Manny. You guys dont know jack.
Of course those guys are Taylor made for pac, he won’t have to chase them, their going continue to milk this guy…
ARUM IS A JOKE!
ARUM must be joking…….