Why is Pacquiao being matched against so many faded fighters?
January 3rd, 2012
By Sean Anderson: Manny Pacquiao has quite literally been considered a phenomenon since breezing through the boxing weights, beginning his career at flyweight in February 1996. Between 1996 and 2008 Pacquiao won world titles at Flyweight, Super-Bantamweight, Super Featherweight and Lightweight.
Pacquiao gained massive plaudits for this success. However it was not until his victory over an aged Oscar de la Hoya (another Mexican!) in December 2008 that he gained worldwide recognition. By this time De La Hoya was 35, and being ask to fight at a weight 8lbs lower than his previous bout. As a result he was considered ‘dead’ at the weight and the future “Hall of Famer” quit on his stall after eight rounds.
Pacquiao then sought a World Title at a fifth different weight when taking on Britain’s beloved Ricky Hatton five months later. 18 months previously Hatton had been dismantled by Floyd Mayweather before showing worrying signs of diminishing punch resistance against the lightly regarded Juan Lazcano. From this it was obvious Hatton was on the wane and he was knocked out in three devastating rounds by Pacquiao.
Only 6 months later Pacquiao moved on to Miguel Cotto, the well regarded Puerto Rican who the year previously had been stopped in brutal fashion by Antonio Margarito. Pacquiao won this WBO welterweight title fight with another stoppage to win a world title at a sixth weight. Ironically Pacquiao then defended this title against the durable Ghanaian Joshua Clottey, who in his previous fight had lost to Cotto. Pacquiao won a lopsided points decision.
This was followed by a bid at a world title at a seventh different weight against the slayer of Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito. Margarito had recently returned from a ban for using illegal substances in his gloves, and was knocked out by American ‘Sugar’ Shane Mosley in his last world title fight. Pacquiao out pointed Margarito convincingly, leaving the Mexican battered and bruised.
This up to now is the end of Pacquiao’s journey through the boxing weights. He did however step down to regain the WBO welterweight title against Mosley via points decision. It may not surprise you to hear that Mosley lost to Mayweather a year prior.
In Pacquiao’s most recent fight to date he fought his old foe Marquez for the third time in May 2011. Marquez had lost to Mayweather in conclusive fashion in 2009, and it was thought that he was on the slide and that Pacquiao would make short work of him. This was not the case and for the second time a contentious points decision went in Pacquiao’s favour.
In review, Pacquiao has had seven fights since December 2008, and each and every one of these opponents has taken some kind of beating in their previous four fights, four of them by Floyd Mayweather! Some fighters had merely had tune up bouts between losing and taking on Pacquiao. It cannot be denied that Pacquiao has some incredible names on his CV but whether any of his opponents since 2008 were in any kind of prime is questionable.
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I tell what… I once did a pooh & it motivated me to start boxing. I am now very good. I always dedecate my win s to the legend that is Mr Roy Walker (catchphrase).
@joe
FAKEquiao should take the taste if he brave
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@jak laur
those guy you mention are all drain fighter
while clottey? he never a champ all his carrer
Why Can’t Floyd Or Pacman Just fight the Best.
Only fighters that haven’t dodged anybody are;
Hopkins
Mosely
Martinez
At pound for pound fake. Whether they are hall of famers or not, the point was that a loss( or in pacs case, slim victories) does not dictate a win over another. Remember weight drained or not, fmj vs de la hoya was a close fight, who many say Oscar won, while Pac man destroyed him. It’s no ones fault but his trainers didn’t prepare Oscar for Manny. In short, you can not predict winners with past victories. It’s a toss up on these pound for pound champs.
if hissy boy fraud haybedder jr. wasn’t such a coward, the pac-man would have fought him
A LONG TIME AGO.
grow some balls.
yes, YOU and your idol fraud haybedder jr.
If he thinks he is the best, he needs to fight the bestand tim bradley is NOT the best
1. greatness
2. richness
or
1. richness
2. greatness
now what?
mayweather should fight pac if he is brave
pacman is fake simply because hes not american…hahahaha
pacquiao is fake
When I want a laugh I come here to read Dom’s dum comments, the guy knows nothing about the sport he is just a Fanboy
opppppssss……….. chance
tin says:
January 4, 2012 at 12:44 am
floyd fans are bashing pac coz hes the only boxer that has a chance to beat thier idol
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Wrong. Cotto, Clottey and Margarito also has a change to beat Floyd.
And Pac murdered them. Floyd avoided them, that’s the reason Floyd fans are bashing Pac.
Pacquiao is proven and tested many times of his boxing career.Perhaps, ur one of them who r insecure of his greatness…
Your dumb so shut up. De la hoya vs Manny was a dream fight they both did not chllange itch other they just agree to fight itch other. Plus De la hoya was retire and came back from retirment Manny did not make him retire and also De la hoya was just there for the money not for the fight if De la hoya was a pride boxer he would of won but insted it was about the money so win or lost it did not matter.De la hoya just fights for money not honer his a piss of $h!t.
Manny fans are all racist they all hate Floyd because he’s black. He is a good undercard fighter. I’ve been watching boxing for over 25 years and there is nothing spectacular about him other then his ability to trow so many punches. Freddie roach is the worst thing to happen to him. He didn’t make him a better boxer. All roach fighters do the same thing punch punch punch punch punch and step to the right.
Manny Pacquaio is a great fighter there’s no doubt about that and you can’t say his opponents were faded fighters last I remembered de la hoya challenged him not the other way around. And whos. floyd’s opponents an ageing mostly, an ageing De la hoya, an undersized marquez, a 1 time wonder victor ortiz. I didn’t see him fight Joshua Clottey, Miguel cotto, or Antonio Margarito and dominated them. The pacman is the truth
Exciting volume puncher with no real boxing skill. When has he ever set up a shot?
NEVER!
floyd fans are bashing pac coz hes the only boxer that has a chance to beat thier idol
You can only say a fighter is faded if he is no longer in top 10 or 15. How can you say Cotto, Clottey, Hatton & Margarito was faded when they fought Manny. They were still contenders. Cotto has only a few loss now and still sells PPV. If a fighter is from a loss then he’s faded then Ali also was faded before he fought Foreman, Norton and Frazier. Then Ali was faded before inducted in the hall of fame. What kind of logic is that.
@ real boxing fan
Remember Morales beat Manny in 1st fight. That was Erik’s prime and Barrera too. Marquez was trying to fight Morales or Barrera that time but no chance. After Manny beat him in 2nd & 3rd fights that was start of his career decline. Morales was in prime when he fought Barrera & Manny. Manny ended their careers – almost.
i think it’s wrong to say that a fighter is badly before that’s why he lost the fight because they are given ample time to prepare for the fight and study his opponent. there are other things to look at why a fighter lost coming off a lost.
Great article
What did Floyd do to Marquez ??? What did Pac do to Marquez???? Nuff said!!
WHY?
because arum wants FAKEquiao to preserve his FAKE greatness…
one and two should fight to see whos the best
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if your going to say floyd then thats fine,so pac comes in as a second,so dont call him a fake.
Actually, fighting fighters coming off a loss is harder! Those fighters DON’T want to lose again.
if your not impress with PACs record show me one boxer today that has better.
pac rose to fame bcoz of this name boxer had he fought unname boxers youll be saying he hasnt fought the best yet.
@ the bad
does your name indicate your bad posts? yes floyd came in overweight but remember this floyd mayweather took a tuneup fight after being off nearly 2 years a tuneup against manny’s demon and marquez couldnt touch him.
so floyd tunes up on guy’s that beat manny what a shame
Pacquiao could throw a bag of white rice in a phone booth & he still would’nt tag Mayweather.
PS Mayweather would counter right hand every grain in that bag.
All you got on BN24 is Pactards….Idiots who never heard of Boxing before this chump Pacquiao came along, you know your a Pactard when you want to see JMM fight Mayweather again after Floyd beat JMM like a joke 12 rounds to 0! Yea that same JMM who beat Pacquiao by 6 rounds a few weeks ago!
Whenever I need a good laugh I read some Pactard comments.
Before JMM beat him 2 months ago Pacquiao has not fought a fighter coming off a KO win in nearly 7 years.
Because he is a media created fighter with one purpose “KEEP WINNING” & make the s*umbag Arum more money….
The second Arum puts him in with Mayweather it’s all over for Pacquiao. FACT!
Try matching floydie and marquez again. In their first bout, floydie obviously cheated marquez. Lets try it again.
@chuleton
for you that obviously new for boxing
foreman,frazier,ali or whoever? theres no comparison..
i respect this boxer for their greatness
all of these guys are hall of fame
unlike FAKEQUIAO….hall of FAKE!!!
Boxer says:
January 3, 2012 at 9:03 pm
styles make fight. Manny have trouble with boxers, thats why he didn’t look great with Mosley, Marquez or Cotto the first rounds. If Cotto box Manny it would be a UD not a TKO. Floyd will do the same Mosley and Marquez..BOX…the difference is that Floyd is a much better boxer.
So what’s your point PAC man is a good slugger look up your boxing history all boxers didn’t beat sluggers you fool PAC man and mayweather may be a different fight lol PAC man and jjm fought three times so don’t you know that jjm know PAC man style you idiot Mr Boxer knows nothing lol haaaaa
Floydie’s excuse for avoiding Cotto, Margarito and Clottey is because they are all Top Rank Fighters. So his out of date excuse for the fights not happening is Bob Arum.
“O” record is missing the TOP RANK fighters including the PACMAN.
Opponent. Not polonium. Typo.
styles make fight. Manny have trouble with boxers, thats why he didn’t look great with Mosley, Marquez or Cotto the first rounds. If Cotto box Manny it would be a UD not a TKO. Floyd will do the same Mosley and Marquez..BOX…the difference is that Floyd is a much better boxer.
A win against one polonium doesn’t mean a victory over another.
I believe only 2 guys are faded fighters, its DelaHoya and Mosley. Now if you believe that Cotto, Margarito and Clottey are faded then why do Floyd avoid them. A lost doesn’t give a fighter a diminishing career, age do.
These faded fighters like Cotto, Margarito and Clottey can still give Floydie a run for his money so Floydie is continuing avoiding them.
I’ll bring this up to clarify the situation for those new to boxing. For everyone who keeps saying that mayweather can beat pacman because he struggle in his victories against JMM when mayweather easily beat him, remember this. Foreman beat Frazier, Frazier beat ali, Ali beat foreman, then Ali beat Frazier(just barely the last time)
why is manny being matched against so manny faded and old fighter? why?
is simply because that’s manny FAKEquiao made of…
team FAKEquiao even wants to fight roy jones jr, mike tyson,
benard hopkins,muhammad ali….
hahaha FAKEquiao legacy is a joke
and FAKEquiao fans is all big joke
Floyd and PAC both facing SSM,ODH and all were jokes however Cotto and Clottey beat some of the guys Floyd has faced. Judah was coming off a loss, gatti you wanna talk about a destroyed fighter and Floyd took advantage of Ortiz coming off a win against a fighter who never fought anyone. If were gonna criticize one let’s look at both
I agree that Pacman faced top opposition when
They were vulnerable. In saying that this
Is a business. If I were his promoter I
Would be looking for fights on a risk/reward basis
As well. Ie best chance of winning for the biggest payday
this Author is lack of knowledge. Manny knock-out Hatton in just 2rounds not 3rounds.
Wow, outside of margorita he has fought only the best in his division,compare golden cross dresser dela hoyas record to his and drag queen made his career off of fighting smaller washed up fighters
PAC is an exciting fighter when he has a certain fighter in front of him! You here a lot of ‘PAC was the busier fighter against Marquez”. The truth is Marquez made him miss a lot . He breezed thru fighters that were past there glory days ,damaged goods & weight drained on top of that!!! Can’t wait to see who bob arum picks for Pac?! Cuz you know it’s goin to be someone easy so PAC can look explosive and regain that hallow glory back!!!! Believe me when I say I’m not a hater I just see it the way it is…..
Look how easily PBF beat JMM, won 12 straight rounds, JMM hardly landed a glove on him. Fastforward 2+ years Pacquiao struggles against JMM, gets tagged cleanly for 12 rounds and gets a corrupt decision. This is one of 5 or 6 arguments that prove Pac would not get NEAR PBF. End of.
These pactoids our oblivious to simple logic!!!!
The simplest fights fore the most money. Like always is boxing thats why its gooing so bad fore cus greedy fighters/promoters is killing it.
Floyd mayweather had only three fights since coming from self imposed retirement in 2008. He fought a lightweight in Marquez on Sept 2009 at an agreed weight of 144 lbs and came in at 146 paying $400,000 penalty. On May of 2010 he fought Mosley and won by UD. Last Sept. 17 2011 he suckered punch Ortiz to win by KO and was installed the P4P top dog. During that time frame Pacquiao had seven victorious fights against OLDH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley and Marquez. Pacquiao generated almost six million PPV buys in those fights that made him a multimillionaire thanks to Top Rank.
Who cares? Clearly, Arum, and the entire Pacquiao camp and the + $20 Million he generates per fight speaks for themselves.
Okay, name another current fighter that accomplished what PAC did from 2008 to 2011. He is not even an American and has more star power than any American fighter.
Floyed was active, why didnt he fight Cotto, and Margaritto, and why did he contact Morales for a possible fight??
The only boring PPV fight that PAC had that was boring was against JC. Name one interesting PPV fight Mayweather had?? All are boring!!
Theres a video showing Pacman using illegal handwraps. A handwrapping technique that using an excessive amount of tape including tape rolled into a rope and placed over the knuckles causing it to become hard as plaster. Youtube Pacquiao Cheating Strategy
You pacquiao haters amaze me. EVERY long time champion has fought some tomato cans now and again. Ali had Dunn, Evangalista, Coopman and Wepner sprinlked in with the Frazier, Foreman and Norton fights. No shame in it. Just easy paydays.
Discard everything else Manny has accomplished, his 8 or so knockdowns over the great Mexican trio of Barerra, Morales and Marquez are an HOF accomplishment BY THEMSELVES.
Manny is great for that hard power and relentless punch flurries…but this recent winning streak is over rated…the most credit that i give him in last 4 years was the way he outboxed Cotto. The rest had careers that were “limping” or they were there to be Manny’s punching bags.
Pakyo fought margarito at a 150lbs catchweight while sergio martinez is offering himself to fight pakyo at that same weight but pakyo wants it at 147lbs! I don’t think manny is as big of a man people say he is! Pinoy’s who don’t have a clue about the sport and it’s politics are so blind to see that!
To say that Pacman’s win against those boxers is not overwhelming…common//its like saying that Marquez,Cotto,Margarito,De la Hoya and so on are all noob fighters..this is boxing..& I understand its also a business..but when you look at it.Pacman fought those boxers bcoz he was already eligible. You cant fight a superstar when you are still starting out..you need to fight your way through and that’s what Pacman did. He already had a lot of fights and came out victorious so don’t just base your opinions on those latest fights. you need to understand that he fought a lot of tougher fighters way back before he landed on the “mainstream”.
Only in Pactard land can you claim a guy is a 154 champ when he NEVER fought a 154 champ, NEVER even fought a 154 contender, and NEVER fought at a 154 limit. Oh and when the rightful previous owner of that very same 154 belt makes a challenge, the response is ’150 catchweight or no fight.’ And the cherry on top? The guy agrees to 150, and now PacFraud won’t even talk about him. No, PacFraud is targetting a junior welterweight fighter. (After he just got his as.s beat by a 38yo lightweight).
SMH.
How the hell you guys keep telling PACman vs fix fight. Hatton was not, cotto was not, clottey was not, margaritto was not, morales, Barrera, Dias and marques. The only faded is Mosley and delahoya but this two put a fight and could not beat pacqiuao. Tell floyd jr to man up and don’t make excuses.
“Pacman has beat all the best in the world” lol… Go hang urself…
the answer is simple because he may not be able to beat top fighters… for pac to fight someone they need to be half dead it’s sort of like holmes beating ali or tyson beating larry holmes
these pac nuts are ok with that type of matchmaking
This author blocked my previous blog, but let me say this again. Every point he makes, he discredits Pacquiao while credits mayweather.
Opinions are just your own opinions, but the FACTS are what on the book.
Real boxing hasn’t fought anyone with titles yet he has belts in how many divisions. You wanna talk about left over fighters how about gatti, Judah coming off a loss and ortiz who beat a guy that has not one notable win on his belt come on. Hatton, Ssm and Odh were bad for bboth to fight but cotton and clottey beat the people Floyd fought
If you look at Paquiao’s resume it’s pretty impressive, but of you bean following boxing for a while & know a little bit about it you would find out that Pac did skip a lot of the better names than the ones he fought for example he skipped : Rafael Marquez very & Israel Vazquez both very dangerous from ’96-’04, Juanma Lopez , Orlando Salido, Daniel ponce de Leon, victor Ortiz, Jorge arce, Fernando montiel, celestino caballero, Marcos maidana, those are some names that come to my mind w/ out any reasech but do some good reasech from 96-08 & look at the classes that Pac was fighting at the time & captured titles & look at the good names he skipped
I disagree with this article. All fighters at the time Pacquiao fought were considered top, top fighters…mostly were top tens. After Pac beat them, they are not the same fighters anymore. They became faded AFTER, NOT before, Pacquiao fought them. And that’s how deadly this man is.
Pacman HAS BEAT ALL the best in the boxing world to become the best of the best.
Ditto was and is still fighting well and is probably Pac’s best win in the last few years. I like him, but he has to stop the catch weight fights. The magarito fight should not have been for the world title that’s for sure. I think only the Hatton fight had no catch weight.
@real boxing fan,
Every point that this author makes, he discredits Pacquiao while credits mayweather. Go back and read it again if you didn’t see that.
“Pac man has not beat any belt holders period…”? This statement is untrue. He won and took his titles from so many title belt holders. I will you do your homework and see for yourself in order to gain more respect for this Great Man Manny Pacquiao.
Who is the ONLY boxer that has sent the most opponents to the hospital?
ANSWER: MANNY PACQUIAO.
Again I am reasonable man Jeff why call me stupid ? I came here to debate if thats ur answer so be it. Peace
this author is a floydiot.
Pac fights the best, but floyd avoids the best. One is a warrior (Pac) and the other is a coward (floyd).
Real boxing fan: you’re stupid.
Pac-kill has killed ALL the best. Just one coward remaining and that is floyd. After Pac-Kill knocks this coward out if this long-time coward grows some balls, the Great Manny Pac-kill will retire and become the President of the Philippines.
All you of you guys who commented are ignoiring the facts of the article. He didnt speculate he laid out factual information. Pac man has not beat any belt holders period. And if you wanna get really serious he was handed a faded Morales too if you think about how many wars he was in before the Pac man fights.
Manny Pacquiao is not an Alien, but floyd is scared to death to fight him. If Manny Pacquiao is being matched against faded fighters, then did floyd.
To the boxing world, Manny Pacquiao, being the smaller guy to every opponent he squared with, has fought all the Best in eight divisions and won Ten titles in those Eight divisions. The One exception is floyd because floyd is scared to fight Manny.
Mr. Author,
Those fighters are not faded; they are among the best in boxing. No other better HUMAN boxers in those divisions.
Do you want to see Pacquiao to fight Aliens or what? Are there any Alien fighters in this world anyway?
They both have joke fights such as SSM, ODH and Hatton and Floyd fighting JMM and showing up over weight. However I will take Cotto and Clottey over fighters like Judah, Baldomir and gatti
I love how these guys wanna question the fighters PAc has faced since 2008 but let’s not take a look at Floyd. facts are they both fought Hatton, SSm and ODH and they ne ver should have happened. But fought Cotto and Clottey both of which beat some of the guys Floyd fought. Also PAC did just fight JMM who with more time to prepare for his weight gain and not having to go up to full 147 it benefitted him
1 answer.
He’s been active and Mayweather hasn’t been active.