Arum’s four-fighter list for Pacquiao: Two retreads and two non-stars
January 9th, 2012
By Chris Williams: You know things are bad when you have Bob Arum rejecting Floyd Mayweather Jr. for a bout against his fighter Manny Pacquiao for the sake of Arum putting him in with one of four fighters – Timothy Bradley, Miguel Cotto, Lamont Peterson and Juan Manuel Marquez – that Arum has personally selected for him to fight.
Arum is interested in seeing them fight again because of the money that Marquez brings in from the Mexican fan base of Marquez. Arum wants to see Pacquiao do better than he did last time. I don’t know if he can but I don’t think it really matters. The judges probably won’t give Marquez a win over Pacquiao unless knocks him out or beats him senseless. Pacquiao is the star and stars in boxing are almost impossible to beat by a decision unfortunately.
Pacquiao because Cotto so badly that boxing fans are still turned off at the idea of Arum putting Cotto back in with Pacquiao. But since Arum has already exhausted pretty much his entire Top Rank team, with the exception of Mike Alvarado and Brandon Rios, he’s now using retreads like Cotto.
Peterson and Bradley are not big sellers in bringing in fans. Bradley is more of an investment for Arum than someone that he can cash out right now against Pacquiao. Arum needs to put Bradley in against better opposition to increase his value before he cashes him out.
I just don’t know if Arum has the patience to wait two or three years for Bradley to build a fan base before he put him in with Pacquiao. Besides that, Pacquiao may not be around in two or three years. If Arum matches him now, it will be like Pacquiao is being put in with Joshua Clottey again because Bradley is about as popular as Clottey. He’s not going to excite anyway and if Arum thought he was getting a future PPV star when he signed him up, he’s likely to be in for a rude awakening when that fails to happen.
It’s still hard to believe that Arum turned down Mayweather for these four guys. It makes it seem like Arum is just interested in milking Pacquiao rather than having him really tested. I guess it’s a good move for him and a good move for Pacquiao. Arum continues to make good money with Pacquiao beating guys that aren’t in his class, and Pacquiao doesn’t have to see his paydays drop after a loss to Mayweather.
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Any one that knows boxing knows floyd is going to kill manny.
Manny is one directional, and has struggled in his last 3 fights, marquez killed him.
Floyds the best fighter to of ever lived and i cant wait to see him KO manny,
Its not even gna be a contest, floyd is that much better.
And now that manny is off the gear, hes even weaker and slower.
The was manny moved up in weights without putting an inch of fat on is scientifically impossible without the use off steroids or growth hormone.
Manny a nice guy, but also comes from a camp that cheats.
Floyd doesnt need to fight manny why does he?
Floyd has run over every single opponunt he has faught killed them. Manny has struggled every time and lost the last fight.
Floyds never lost.
Floyd makes the most money out of every boxer.
Floyd doesnt need this fight.
I want to see it happen just to see all the manny arse lickers who no nothing about boxing to eat their words.
Cant wait if it ever happens.
Bob arum needs to retire, he is old and stupid.
What did Floyd lied about and what is it that he is not matching with his mouth?
@ Scared
Considering the only fighter of the 2 who is doing all the talking ( Maynever ) how come he has not entered in to negotiations then?? He has not even tried, yet you seem to think he wants the fight lol. Pacquiao does not say much.
Fraud has said on video ” your next Pacquiao ” then later retracts that statement. He again on video said ” sign the contract ” and ” take the test ” well for your infomation how can you sign a contract if no negotiations have taken place?? or how do you take a test if there is not any contract to sign.
These are not excuses, this is Fraud Maynever at his lowest trying to make people think he wants the fight and it is team Pacquiao’s fault it is not happening. But as you see in the above Fraud is what FRAUD is a LIAR who just talks smack and can not match his mouth with his boxing… He is just a complete TOOL
lol a floyd fan with the name scared says it all
Is it the eye, the venue or the opponent the fight is not happening? May 5th is still open for the two to fight each other. Maybe after Pac tells Arum he wants to fight Floyd we will be lucky to see this fight come true. Last week people were saying Mayweather was ducking Pacman by pleading guilty in court something I never heard off. Now he is free until June. Why is Pacqiou still wondering who he can fight next when he can fight Money in May? The bottom line is if Pac wants this fights he should do like Mosley did when he left his promotion to fight Floyd. Maybe he does not want to be disloyal to the man that made him the man he is today. Understandably but who gets all the insults? Unfortunately Pacman. Pressure is now on the fighter himself. We shall see…
Lol. Scared you’re far off. I dont just want this fight, I want both of them to beat da dog$hit out of eachother with a double k.o in the twelvth rd. U r a ignotant bag a$hit.
@Keep it 100
accept it your natioanal hero pacquaio does not want this fight. maybe you ether.
we boxing fans want this fight. we dont care how much money they could generate. all we wants is to make this fight happen to shut up pacquiao and his loyal stupid followers.
Why are floyd fans acting like floyd tried to set up a pacquiao fight? The only one that seems ready is pacquiao.
TsipaR7
War: I’m sorry but you are close minded why are you still blaming Floyd for the fight not happening the writing is on the wall his promoter don’t want that fight. The promoter has given Pac four guys that he can fight not inluding Mayweather!! You need to keep up with the news sir… I smell hate mm nasty!
Posted January 9, 2012
so cmon tell me when the fight on may the 5th was offered to manny ? no answer4 to that is there , because it didnt happen
USA
Arum is the farmer, Pacquiao is the cow & Mayweather is the butcher.
Posted January 9, 2012
i take it your a typical cheating yank ?? tell me then if the usa is sooooooo good why ban a drug in 49 states and one lets it be used ,,, nevada ,,, oh yeah so floydy the cheat can get his hand injections .. usa just got proved corrupt .. live with it
How is Manny’s eye?
Oh by the way! How us Manny’s eye?
War: I’m sorry but you are close minded why are you still blaming Floyd for the fight not happening the writing is on the wall his promoter don’t want that fight. The promoter has given Pac four guys that he can fight not inluding Mayweather!! You need to keep up with the news sir… I smell hate mm nasty!
Catchweight Coward Manny PacROID targetting two jr. welters, one lightweight, and a jr. middleweight that he refused to fight at a full 147 limit.
lmao.
And his excuses for not fighting Floyd:
‘My cut won’t heal in time’
‘The MGM is too small’
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
Coward Coward Coward. Just a scared little Filipino BOY.
floyd is ready n willing… Manny has said yea to tests.. n now they want none of Floyd… WTF?? Carnello whoops Bradley, Cotto, Marquez, and Peterson any day. Guererro has tried to get a fight with Manny but they ignored him coz he comes into fights weighted up n he boxes well. If Guerero had a mexican style of fighting Manny would have fought him; but Guerero is a boxer n Manny don want it.
Floyd is fighting undefeated guys, strong n big guys, tall n all. Hey I like Manny as a boxing fan but ps pple see the truth. A floyd vs Guerero fight will se guerero come in at 162, while Carnelo at about 172 n Floyd will be about 150. As a fan of boxing I admire his opposition.
Also to be honest; Manny wont fight Bradley. He’s too strong and willed and there’s no blue print on beating him. Manny has to wait for Floyd to fight him first then they can take the risk last. The risk is there in Bradley and if Arum lets it happen it might be that Arum is ready to Den Manny to build a young new cash cow… As in if MAnny looses it better be with someone in his stable and not Floyd..
All this st is all on Arum,,,,,,,,,,, he m akes a bad name for jewish pple as in “greedy jew”
@mayweather loves nevada
and peterson/bradley? big and strong for the p4p king pacquiao. but too small for coward mayweather?
i guess pacquiao is a fake champion.
scared
@war
canelo is bum but bradley/peterson is big and strong? WTF!
Posted January 9, 2012
canelo aint a bum but hes not ready for the big time yet
Amir Khan could beat that catchweight queen Fakequiao
@war
canelo is bum but bradley/peterson is big and strong? WTF!
@ WAR because they are fighers coming off wins KO wins at that you Pactard idiot, Floyd only fights live fighters unlike your coward idol, the catchweight queen.
I think its more arum than manny. Manny seems to not really kno wutz going on. Pacquiao sure never fought scared so wut makes people believe he is?
I think Manny is better than Ali..
Yes I am a Pactard.
@keep it 100
okay. if pacquiao declined the may 5th. pacquiao is scared. if he take the challenge them i’m yours. DEAL!
This issue falls on all three. Arum may n pac are all to blame. Quit being ignorant
Hahahaha could’nt be more right Arum is the farmer, Pacquiao the cow & Floyd the butcher & when Arum is finished milking this b*tch he will send him to be destroyed by Mayweather.
Arum is the farmer, Pacquiao is the cow & Mayweather is the butcher.
Pacquiao is scared of Mayweather’s ability.
Arum is terrified of Mayweather’s ability, it will hurt his pocket.
Give me a P, gimme a A gimme a C gimme a T gimme a A gimme a R gimme a D what have we got? The dumbest mofo’s ever PACTARD.
Mayweather 119-109 Pacquiao all day long!
You can’t win with the Pactards, they have it already made out, after Mayweather makes a fool of Manny & wins every round, these idiots will have 100 excuses, this is why I’m pi**ed Mayweather has not got his hands on this fake earlier but even if he did the clowns would still cry excuses, Anyone watching this sport along time know’s Arum won’t touch Mayweather & for one reason only “Pacquiao would lose miserably like JMM to Floyd.
END OF STORY.
Yes Manny is scared “He is scared of what he’s got & losing all of it once Mayweather shows him up inside the ring” ie Fake azz fame, incredible speed & all that other crap the Pactards say, this would all come to a brutal end If Mayweather got his hands on Pacquiao, So technically YES Pacquiao is scared.
pacquiao is t0o $cared to fight floyd mayweather jr.
once mayweather calls his 2nd option for may 5th the ring magaz1ne of 0scar dela h0ya will strip the p4p title to pcquiao. watch it.
the reason why pacquiao is still #1 r1ng magaz1ne p4p is to make floyd the underd0g to generate more m0ney when they get meet inside the ring.
look.
yah0o sport,E.S.P.N, etc. etc.. they’d strip the p4p #1 title from pacquaio.
Pacquiao is now a laughing stock. The world know’s this guy is a pup who is scared to death of the beatdown Mayweather would hand him, go on Manny & continue to hide behind your boss.
BoB Arum is scum & Pacquiao is a fraud lapdog of his.
I don’t think he is scared. Why would he be? He is a fighter; I don’t see any reason why he will be scared of another fighter. I favor Mayweather to win if ever they fight but scared is out of the question…
@chris
yeah im a mayweather fan, a boxing fan.
and you
pacquiao is your national hero. WTF! pacquiao is your GOD and you’re nationalistic homie.
press release, pacquiao is pressing for floyd! and floyd can be seen peeing on his pants running scared and screaming ” get me to jail right now!”
I think that the reason Pac can’t make his own decision is because he wants to be loyal to the man than made him who he is today. If it wasn’t for Bob we probably would have never heard of Many Pacqiuo.
@Scared.. looks like your also blaming Pacquiao why FMJ goes to jail. It’s not Pacquiao’s fault that Mayweather is going to jail… He want’s to go to jail because he is scared of Pacquiao… That’s another excuse from your idol…
BBOOYYCCOOTT!! Arum’s Top Rank fights from now on until he stops being GREEDY! He dont want to split profits w/ other promoters so he lets his boxers fight each other to keep the money in house. FANS WAKE UP
The fact is that Floyd is still scared of Pacquiao. You are all cry babies…
I don’t think Pacman should give so many concessions to Floyd. He’s agreed to testing, getting lesser purse, etc. Enough is enough. He should know that Floyd is just using his name to make money but won’t fight him.
lol breaking news pacquiao insisting on floyd fight. i think floyd and his fans are peeing on their pants right now.
@ scared you are the one stupid, there’s a new press release where pacquiao is insisting on floyd fight. just wait when floyd makes another ridiculous demand, he may even say to nevada judge, i dont accept the delay I want to go inside the prison now!
@blackbox ur stup1d
pacquiao said the he cant fight in may 15.
but
he said he is willing to fight floyd even in jail, so do the math. 90 days or may 5th.
pacquiao has guts to say those thing because he knew floyd is in jail at that time but when floyd is ready for may. where is pacquiao? c0ward!!
@keep it 100 Morales never made such a statement and floyd camp morales and gorerro fights would be stupid. Arum was. Contacted a month before the marquez fight he said he would not negotiate untill after the marquez fight. Hour was contacted after the narquez fight he said he was not interested at that time. And we all know what happened after floyd got jail date pushed back arum said Still no thanks.
just take the fight. no more stup1d cut.
now pacquiao have spoken, he said he wants floyd in his next fight! he said there’s no more problem. I already agreed to drug testing and even agree for a lesser purse just to make th fight happen! what is floyd next move? he is running out of demands. I will not be surprise i floyd demands pacquiao body to be dissected to prove he is not alien and for sure pacquiao cant agree to that then floyd d fraud will declare pacquiao is a coward and afraid of knife! LMAO
This all talk over Pac vs Floyd is useless. Floyd is scared of Pacman and won’t fight him. You’re stupid if you haven’t figured that out yet.
@keep it 100
morales your face. get lost
The second Cotto vs Margarito fight was the last dollar Mr Arum will see of mine. Pacquiao is now offically a piece of s h I t. I read on another site that now Pacquiao wants to fight in June. So it isn’t just Arum. Why is the cut such an I s s u e? If Pac is the great fighter that everyone claims he is, it shouldn’t be a problem. Warrior my @SS!!
The pac haterz are acting like mayweather tried to set up the mgm for pac. Dont b dumb. Morales even stated mayweather offered him may 5th. I think the only one that thought it was about to go down was pac.
I wouldnt say any of these fighters are non stars or retards. I would say personally bradley is the best fight, young and hungry fighter who needs to prove to everyone his worth. Theres a lot of hype with him and either way the fight goes the fans will win. He will either expose a fading pac man and end his career or he will get knocked out and shut that self hyping mouth of his.
bobo you look like mr williams… the stupids!!!
William McKay is a bad bad nob
First Bob Arum said that Manny’s cuts can not heal fast enough to be available for a Floyd fight because Juan Marquez beat Pac-fake too much.
Next when it was known that Floyd was going to jail, Manny can fight again soon maybe even in a couple months!?!? wtf?
Now the justice system says they can delay Floyds sentence so he does not have to go to jail until this Summer so the fight can be made! They do not mention Floyd as even a opponent!
WTF is going on? Does daddy Bob know his Pac-fake will get beat bad? Floyd will not just beat Manny, he will school him bad! I know most of you Pactards are flips and do not know what school is so I will tell you. It means you are smarter in the ring and can adjust to any style! Floyd will not knock Pac out, he will pot shot him until he quits on his stool because he can not see any more! bwa hahahahaha
I thought fighting someone under ypur division was wrong? And I thought Pacquiao would not fight anyone that was over 147?
Seems like Pac’s fan are slowly disappearing. They finally figured out that Floyd is the superior fighter.
jjm vs mayweather 2, at 144, we all know he wom pacman,let jmm rep[resent mexico on may 5th.
Floyd Mayweather is the ULTMATE FIGHT of Manny Pacquiao before he retires from boxing. Just wait it will certainly happen because of the huge prize money involved. MARK MY WORD!
webby
it will be perterson FACT thats why hes wi bob arum nar. he will dodge marquez and mayweather. Cotto and bradley are tough fights so he will dodge them. and that leves peterson whos lost to bradley draw wi ortiz and only just won khan. easy hand picked fight yet agen/ manny is a paper champion
Posted January 9, 2012
duh pamans fought cotto … mayweather is the one who ducked him look at post fight after mayweather v hatton , he was asked he was scared he even said id rather retire cotto scares me ha ha
I know everybody wanna see Pacman’s fight no matter who will be his opponent bcoz Pacman is an entertainer, Pacman is an exciting boxer to watch, Pacman shows skills,power and ability and many more. Right guys?Please don’t show jealousy here my friends.Bwahahahaahahahaha!
it will be perterson FACT thats why hes wi bob arum nar. he will dodge marquez and mayweather. Cotto and bradley are tough fights so he will dodge them. and that leves peterson whos lost to bradley draw wi ortiz and only just won khan. easy hand picked fight yet agen/ manny is a paper champion
Cotto is a bum, Marquez already beat Pac THREE TIMES, and Bradley, who’s he? Peterson would beat Pac easy. Pac is an over rated, one dimensional boxer that is 100 percent hype.
Arum is stealing from the real boxing fans – lining his pockets rather than put Pac in with other decent fighters. Pac is happy to sit there thinking that is is P4P No1.
Bradley is my choice, JMM and Cotto cannot beat the Pac no matter what weight!!!
@ blackbox
these guy’s are paid to fight what they do outside of the ring is their own personal lives. now that being said you pac fans are running out of excuses really fast and you are getting desperate.
manny does not have a voice in his own career he is the ho and arum is the pimp FACT now get it thru your head bob arum freddie roach and all of the rest of pacquiaos camp knows that the day manny steps in the ring they had better have there money on floyd
because the top rank gravy train is ending and manny will be broke as a joke still trying to get fights at 40 yrs old.
what manny should do is ask floyd to buy manny out of arums contract then sign to fight floyd and floyd can get his money back from the fight because manny cant afford to buy his way out on his own or he would have done so.
FACT: MANNY PACQUIAO HAS MADE MORE MONEY FOR BOB ARUM THAN ANY FIGHTER ARUM HAS EVER HAD AND REMEMBER ARUM HAD DELAHOYA AS WELL AS MAYWEATHER…..REASON THEY DIDNT STICK AROUND TO GET WORKED OVER……PEACE
manny is arum’s slave. manny is not a man….scared of floyd! we dont want to see any of these 4 boring fights!
Very well said Mr.Williams keep calling it like it is !!!!
you are a treat to human inteligence mister williams : you need to stop hate people and start to be more objective about true champion like miguel cotto. you need to be in a wheel chair for few months .
Yep, I bet he really wants to prove himself after winning the fight, on two scorecard with a draw on the other. It was quite clear that he must be really pissed off with that result, a long with the win from the fight before and the draw from the first one. Marquez is just too good for Manny and his record of 0-2-1 against him proves that.
Grow up guys and just accept that the record speaks for itself, I know you are desperate to see Manny lose so you can make the same excuses as Floyd is for the two not fighting each other, but unfortunately it hasn’t gone that way.
The only way that the fight will happen if the scared and coward Floyd Jr will say right from his trash mouth that he wanna fight Pacman on May,ok? Surely the fight will happen.Buuuut as his name implies (coward/scared),i don;t think coward Floyd Jr will do so.Bwahahahahahaha!
@bobo bagins… What are u talking about cotto refused to fight manny at welt ???? They made him drop below that to 145. Cotto had the welt belt at the time..
Pacman needs to stand up an tell BOB ARUM he is signing the Floyd contract
with or without him, The date May 5th has been set an the MGM IS THE
BOXING MECA it dont get better, FLOYD HAS DONE EVERYTHING HE CAN
TO GET PACMAN IN THE RING, Bob Arum is out to destroy boxing with
his in house… fixed fights THAT I WILL NEVER BUY AGAIN,
Pac v Bradley/Peterson would bring in a lot of PPVs. Many Floyd fns would love to watch Pac get thumped!
Pacman will not fight a man who are in the midst of depression and frustration just like the scared and coward Floyd Jr.Pacman really understand his situation.In fact Pacman advised coward Floyd Jr to consult a theraphist and counselling,don’t you understand guys?What a pity coward Floyd Jr.Bwahahahahahaha!
Ther are only two fights out there for Pacman.. Floyed and MArquez … the others are just stupid and bad for boxing ..
Why you guys is asking Pacquiao the Lawmaker to fight floyd the lawbreaker a convicted criminal? Floyd d convict does not belong in the league of pacquiao the congressman. Throw floyd to the vagabonds where he belongs!
If cotto don’t give in to a bad catch weight he’ll have a better chance pac has slowed a bit cotto would box him this time, peterson & bradly would be ok fights but not fan friendly..
Filipino = Coward.
LMAO at Mr. P4P’s list.
Bradley – 140
Peterson – 140
JMM – 135
Cotto – 154
So 3 out of 4 aren’t even welters, and Cotto he refused to fight at a full 147 the first time around.
LMAO.
now you’re learning chris it’s all about money that’s why many hate pacman and arum but who cares!
take a look at this picture”’FAKEquiao look like mongoliod
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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“Two Retards and two non stars” harsh enough to say the least…. Arum wont match Pacquiao with Mayweather for one very obvious reason… His most prized asset would be worthless after a Mayweather masterclass which would expose all the fragilites which Pacquiao got away with due to the horrendous in the Marquez fight (FACT)