Juan Manuel Marquez against the odds
December 15th, 2011
By Julian Valenzuela: How is it that a boxer can have the career, be in the type of fights that Juan Manuel Marquez has had and yet never really get the respect he deserves? He has fought the best, he has beat the best, and yet in every major fight he is considered an underdog.
It’s kind of sad really for boxing and the real boxing fans who see what he really is and stands for and has given to the sport. Why is it that Sergio Martinez, who has fought one fight in the last year against a nobody like Darren Barker in which he looked horrible, get rated number #3 pound for pound? Or Nonito Donaire, in which he also fought once in the last year, against a nobody, and looked bad also, get rated number #4 on pound for pound list?
Marquez who has been active, fighting tough fighters, and just fought the p4p best fighter gave him all he can handle in which I saw him win, rated number #5 on the p4p list. It’s truly sad I’m sure it’ll have the same people who cant except that there could be true Mexican fighters in the sport and will start writing how bad Marquez is and how old he is but deep inside you know he is a true legend and will still beat all fighters from 147 down except for Floyd Mayweather which I believe cant lose to anyone in the sport today.
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Boxing is only a business. It’s no longer a respectful sport. Any writer who had some balls to do say what he knows is actually accurate would have Mayweather 1 and Marquez 2 on the P4P list.
Marquez is a crybaby. He did not win any of the 3 fights against Paquiao. The last one was close but he still lost. I thought it was funny how he was speaking English before the fight and after the fight while he was in his dressing room being pouty in his sombrero, he could only speak spanish to the interviewer. Its looks like Paquiao beat the English out of him! LOL!!! He needs to sit the f@#k down have a Jaritos and shut the hell up already. Sore loser.
nice Ross
simon@ you are the blind here, when i saw the replay i notice many of paquious punches would not land on marquez. replay even convince more that marquez won and yea marquez found the way to beat pacquiao and thats beeing inteligent by counter punching pacquio every time he can. pacquiao is the one that needs to learn how to fight marquez. and yea marquez is great warrior he still can beat alot of boxers out there. marquez has nothing to proof pacquiao has alot to proof and you pactard know what im talking about.
arriva marquez al berga con los haters
Marquez vs Peterson and Khan vs Bradley then the winner faces off period
are you blind? pacquiao won by more close rounds than marquez won few clear rounds. Don’t you know the 10-9 round scoring? damn!
if you see the replay and in the slowmo manny is connecting inside. coputer counts manny connected more. yes, marquez is gracefully executed but without power but manny is not but with power. marquez is not willing to exchange more that five combination but manny is willing. manny is offensive in 12 rounds, marquez is defensive in 12 rounds. marquez face has more damage, manny face has little damage.
pacman won from official boxing judges. jmm won as claimed by non-boxing judges. who is the better judge. of them all?
I was in disgust when the decision came out. Although I am a huge Manny Pacquiao fan and expected him to win this fight easily, I could only see Marquez as the victor. I am not a boxing judge but a great fan of the sport… I also agree on the Castillo V Mayweather I fight as I believe Castillo had won that fight. It is what it is and will always be in the history books, however although Manny Pacquiao will be remembered for his historical efforts, Marquez will always be remebered for his greatness in the sport and his ability to give Manny more trouble than any man.
@Ross:
Who cares what those fighters thought, the end result was Pacquiao won and that is in the record books. Alot of people also thought Mayweather lost to Castillo on the first fight, did the judges overturn their decision?? Why don’t you go appeal on Marquez’s behalf and see what happens. I thought you were a boxing fan yet it seems that you are just a hater.
I’m really amazed at people insisting that Marquez won over Pacquiao when the records will show that Pacquiao won. C’mon guys, move on, there’s no point crying over spilled milk. No matter how much you keep on insisting that Marquez won, you cannot reverse the records. Pacquiao won and thats it!
lol 38yo lightweight exposes the drug-test refusing catchweight chump-ion.
Have anyone here have seen BrokeBack Mountain ? My Favorite.
Paquiaos skin seems smooth like a baby butt..I’m pretty sure he puts baby oil or body lotion or something like that.
Marquez had no business in the ring w’ Mayweather. Marquez is a junior lightweight and Mayweather is a welterweight. Mismatch for any fighter to try this especially when the bigger guy weighs more than hes supposed to .
Marquez is one of my favorites…this writer is wrong tho…the only time I had him as an underdog was vs Pacquiao n vs Mayweather….evey other one of his fights my words were “Marquez bout to tap that a$s”….n he always did….he is a true master of the art!
Lol like I said, I knew I would have the same stupid people that write on every other article write on this one … I like pacman one of my fav fighters yea I brought up the fight but really has nothing to do with him.. Yous go on articles that have nothing to do with pac and write about him thats pathetic lol and like I said I like pacman I think hes great but marquez just as great weather yous like it or not and last time I checked marquez got fight of the year 3 times I didnt know that was considered boring
He’s boring that’s the bottom line and nobody likes a cry baby
Im a fan of manny pacquiao and I scored that fight as a draw, they can say all they want but its true that marquez is always a tough fight for pacquiao. Marquez is good at fighting southpaw fighter. But if you gunna put marquez in the ring with cotto, maybe he will not do good against cotto but might win in a split decision. he did good against pacquiao because pacquiao doesnt have head movements and when pacquiao rush in, he can only hits them if they stand straight. But marquez likes to duck his straight left punch and counter. pacquiao doesnt like getting hit, he move back everytime when marquez counter him. That makes it easy for marquez to hit him.i believe pacquiao can knock marquez out if he just forget about getting hits and really trade with shots with marquez. But thats one thing that pacquiao can not do even though he has a good chin, he doesnt like getting hits.
All you haters have to shut-up and leave the fighting to the Boxers! Because your heroes won’t win by your opinions! You have to based it on statistics!
Marquez looked like a beaten Chinesse in his last fight against the best of all time Manny “Pacman” Pacquiao! In other words he got beat by the Pacman and according to the compubox Pacman landed more punched and threw more than Marquez and Pacman is the aggressor, thus Maquez landed a few clean shots. He also did some illegal tactics and a headbutt to Pacman. If you want to be the best you have to beat the best! “Mexican Legend”? Who are you kiddin’? Morales and Barrera are the true Mexican Warrior who will fight till the death!
Because everytime Marquez tries to come forward and fight, he gets put on his ass (i.e. against Pacquiao 1 & 2, Katsidis, Mayweather and Barrera), or gets wobbled (against Juan Diaz). How is he going to be the favorite fighter against Pacquiao fighting that way. So he has to run and hope he doesn’t get knocked out. This is the reason he can never beat Pacquiao.
You better review in slow motion so that you will know who won the fight. In the first place had Manny not been an aggressor on that fight, that could had been very boring fight because Marquez was just waiting for Manny’s flurry. He never attempted to attack as a real challenger. In this case, Manny was acting as a challenger. The judge are professional enought in the field of therir profession. Secondly, it was very clear that Manny threw very much more punches and thus had more connected punches as well was very much more power punches. Marquez threw few punches and naturally he has also less missed but the overall damaged it was marquez who suffered most. I am not sure sof this author whether Pilipino or Mexican..I hope he is not a Pilipino.. if he is,,, very shameful for him….
Justice will be serve here. Pacquiao will lose his next fight . just watch!.
And I bet he would beat margarito the bum and cotto is good but he has no chin marquez would out box him!
Marquez is a good fighter. Manny lost 3 times. Marquez is a bad ass that he also when to the philippiness to challange Manny for a 3rd fight then 2 years pass then the 3rd fight happen i guess for the 4th fight Marquez will have to take a trip to the philippiness and challange him again
Marquez is the man and manny is the woman
Marquez beat Pac-man by at least three points. Any body who says that Marquez did not win is not giving Marquez his just do. It is ashamed that the judges and promoters stole this win from a deserving champ like Marquez.
Pacman I said 147 down ur at 154 buddy lol
P4P he should #3 I hope he come s back and takes a fight at 140 maybe against that big head Bradley and exposes him.
What if Marquez fight cotto or margarito. I’m sure he would lose…
Marquez fans cheered, unfortunately they did not see where a mojority of Marquez’s punches were landing, maybe the should watch the fight again. @ the writer, not everyone thought Marquez won, you forgot about the JUDGES..
There will never ever be a true warrior like marquez again.
so true i know jmm is a tough m f#cker ill tell u that
wow no comment from the great pacman fans about this fight
no comment from the pacman fans