Schaefer/Ellerbe: Arum doesn’t want Pacquiao vs. Mayweather bout
November 15th, 2011
By Chris Williams: Leonard Ellerbe, an advisor for Floyd Mayweather, and Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer are saying that Bob Arum doesn’t want to put together a fight between his fighter WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao and Mayweather Jr. Instead of making that fight, they see Arum avoiding the Mayweather fight to put Pacquiao back in with Juan Manuel Marquez for a fourth fight between those two guys.
Ellberbe had this to say in an article by Dan Rafael at ESPN: “In my opinion, you have three cowards – Bob Arum, Freddie Roach and Manny Pacquiao…It should be clear to everyone that they don’t care what the fans want, especially when Floyd is ready, willing and able to fight Manny Pacquiao now…All along we know why the fight isn’t being made…It’s a disgrace.”
I really can’t blame Ellberbe and Schaefer for being upset because Mayweather-Pacquiao would be a huge fight and the fight needs to be made before boxing fans lose interest or Pacquiao gets whipped again. However, I can understand why Arum is reluctant to match Pacquiao with Mayweather. After all, once Pacquiao faces Mayweather the gravy train will be over. Pacquiao will get easily beaten and a one-sided loss to Mayweather no doubt would have a negative impact on Pacquiao’s future PPV appearances.
Who would want to pay to see Pacquiao fight after he gets beaten badly by Mayweather? Pacquiao also isn’t in the position to take the Mayweather fight right now because of how badly Pacquiao was made to look by Marquez last Saturday night. Ignoring the scores, which were nothing short of a joke, Pacquiao got beat by Marquez and made to look bad. You can’t have Pacquiao moving on after a clear loss to Marquez to face an even better fighter in Mayweather. For one boxing fans won’t be as eager to see the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight now because of the controversial decision Pacquiao got over Marquez. And secondly, Pacquiao needs to prove that he can pass the Marquez test. Right now, Pacquiao has lost all three fights in the minds of many boxing fans.
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let’s be honest pacman stop using PED…due to be a congressman or scared that he might be exposed during radom drug testing…chanes are that he will return to the PED for the 4th fight against Marguez…mark my words it’s going to happen watch the 4th fight if it happens
Keith
Explain to me why Amir khan is telling everyone manny should retire and not fight floyd. He also says manny would lose if he fights floyd
Posted November 16, 2011
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WHY?…because everybody and anybody… EVEN AN IDIOT…can have an opinion… that’s why…you DUMB BUM…
Explain to me why Amir khan is telling everyone manny should retire and not fight floyd. He also says manny would lose if he fights floyd
Manny Pacquiao’s win over Juan Manuel Marquez is a hard earned fight compared to Floyd Mayweather’s against Victor Ortiz cheap shot victory with a mixture of cheating.
HOW CAN YOU SAY ALL ROADS LEAD TO PACQUIAO? THAT’S FUNNY. EVERY ROAD LEAD TO MAYWEATHER. HE’S THE UNDEFEATED CHAMPION. EVERYONE WANTS TO GIVE HIM THAT FIRST LOSS BECAUSE IF YOU DO YOU WILL BE ON THE RECORD BOOKS FOR EVER.
And Floyd aged 40 would still whip Manny with ease.
floyd was given his chance…he blew it. now, pacman is busy… with his unfinished business with marquez. floyd has to wait in line…behind bradley, martinez, berto, bundrage, mike jones, amir, canelo etc. floyd will have his chance…when he turns 40.
SIA,
A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, MAYWEATHER CAMP IS NOWHERE TO BE FOUND AND VERY SILENT ABOUT A POSSIBLE PACMAN FIGHT BUT NOW A WEEK BEFORE THE PACQUIAO-MARQUEZ 3, MAYWEATHER CAMP IS SCATTERRED ALL OVER THE PLACE, VERY LOUD AND IN THE PANIC MODE IN CHASING BOB ARUM.
BUT BOB ARUM KNOWS, ROACH KNOWS AND MANNY KNOWS THAT THE WISEST MOVE IS A PACQUIAO-MARQUEZ 4, THEN PACQUIAO-BRADLEY, IT WILL ALSO A HIT! AND BEFORE THE PACMAN RETIRES, A MARTINEZ MEGAFIGHT.
FORGET LITTLE FLOYD AND HIS DEMANDS, ALIBIS AND HIS OWN COMMISSION ON DRUG TESTING.
NOW ALL ROADS LEAD TO THE PACMAN!
reasons…excuses…
SIGN THE CONTRACT PINK FLOYD! YOU CAN BEAT MANNY!!!
PUT FERTILIZERS IN UR BALLS RIGHT KNOW TO MAKE IT GROW !!!!
floYDIOTS GATHER MORE HORSES MANURE IN HIS BALLS
HFGSB MOVEMENT
join the club now
Why would they want to fight Marquez again before they get the PPV numbers from this fight? What if this fight does poorly? Them wanting to fight Marquez is an admittance to everyone that they don’t really believe they won the fight. If they hadn’t came out and made all of those predictions of a KO victory, maybe they wouldn’t be choking on their pride right now, not to mention many people in boxing felt Pacquiao lost. I believe Matquez was a measuring stick for Mayweather, just as Ortiz was for Pacquiao and Pacquiao won but failed. If Pacquiao had knocked out Marquez, despite what Arum has been saying about not negotiating a fight with Mayweather, they would be all over trying to make that fight happen…….I think!
Been saying it for years almost PACTARD YOUR BOY IS A COWARD AND HE’S BEEN EXPOSED NOW NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY OR DO TO TRY TO COVER FOR HIM THERE IS NO COVER!! He’s never wanted to fight Floyd and neither did his promoter. Roach only wants to fight him now because he knows Manny is washed up and wants the pay day notice he suddenly wants Khan in the mix! Face facts your boy has been the hang up in this fight all along and now every one is seeing the him for the coward he has always been!
gravy train end? top ranks coming lined up fights like cotto-marg,etc looking good to me. maybe gbp gravy train have already end. runfmj has no where to go he is in the mercy of bob arum. who is gbp prospect amir khan? hahahaha.
Manny Pacquiao opponents…
JMM IV – REALLY?
MARGARITO II – SERIOUSLY?
COTTO II – DON’T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT
MARTINEZ – HE WOULD KO PACQUIAO
BRADLEY – YES TIMOTHY WOULD WHIP PACQUIAO
RETIRE MANNY….IT’S OVER!!!
Unfortunately for Manny Pacquiao, his fans, and all of his pepul, “THIS MEALTRAIN HAS COME TO A SCREETCHING HALT”.
IT’S OVER….
RETIRE MANNY….YOU ARE DONE!
What d fk!! Pac just said on an interview after the fight… Get it on and let the fight happen between him & FMJ!!! If you Floyd’s fans say that FMJ can beat Manny easily… why is it demanding for the RBT, Marquez fight Pacquiao w/o any demand. That’s only proved that FMJ is still scared of Pacquiao!!! Looks like everybody enjoys the figth between pacquiao & marquez rather than Floyd vs ORTIZ (Cheap Shot)…
“Did I say that? I never said I’m gonna fight him (Pacquiao) next” Floyd when asked about a fight with da Manny.
What is the brain size of these Pinoys who are posting comments on this Forum ?
floyd beat ortiz but,,,,hehehehhehehehehehehe he is like a kid,,,,wahahahahahaahah
floyd destroy pac?oh oh ,,,maybe but the problems is ,,floyd is a very coward boxer,,try to fight pac first before we make a comment ,,ok?
becoz you know im very afraid of pac dats why i have so many alibis wahahahha poor floyd ….number 1 coward…your fans will follow your style …..many reason …hahaha
mayweather is and always have been the true p4p. Pac lost that fight to marquez and even his fans are seeing him as a fraud! pac refuses to fight mayweather, he still scared of needles even though he and his peoples all got dumb tattoes!
Next time Pacquiao fights, he will be wearing boxing shoes with a slippery toe guard to frustrate fighters doing the same thing JMM did, you read here it first remember that.
well if pacquiao really won the fight,why in the world would arum want to fight him again?……Because mayweather would destory pacquiao azz, arum know this, roach know this, and pacquiao & fans know this.. you see how pacquiao look without the roids……..
Okay Pacman fans… Why would Manny fight Marquez again if he “already won 3 times”??? A 4th fight REALLY??? I guess we are finding out why the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight isn’t really happening. 3 controversial fights vs one annihilation… Hmmmm…. With every fight, Mayweather is proving he would destroy Pacquiao. Probably with a K.O. or TKO
anonymous… go to hell! you are the idiot!
Most of u guys who dont know boxing all master boxers use the step on the toe trick to keep a mobile boxer from moving Bernard Hopkins is the best at it..Look at his Fights with Taylor, Tarver, Pavlik Pascal all of them and tell me if this is new….
Great article C.W.
Even though you only have 41 hits still good read.
Ppl stop hating and give C.W. His hit.
When liars talk, then all they say are nonsense.
schaefer ask your GOD floyd before you set the fight between pacman & floyd cause floyd is innocent.
Chris, it is easier to negotiate a fourth fight between Pacquiao and Marquez than a Pacquiao Mayweather fight. Sure Mayweather is “ready and willing”to fight the Pacman unless all his demands are meet. And Mayweather is making more and more demands each time Pacquiao is willing to abide to it. How could you negotiate a fight like this. With a Pacquiao-Marquez 4, there’s no hazzle. All they need is just to negotiate the prize and abide with the state boxing commission rules and regulation and that’s it. Plain and simple. With Mayweather demands, then forget it.
I’m sorry to all my fans. I don’t want to fight Mayweather he will beat me to bad! Forgive me for being a fraud.
If Manny won why fight JMM again?
All Pac fans are saying look at the numbers Pac won. Ok we will take that, so why fight JMM again if you won three times? Move on to Mayweather….
@ eman: You are messed up in your head. Team Floyd booked May 5th for the Pac fight way b4 the JMM-Pac fight. E’1 thot Pac would win easily, unfortunately he lost easily (unofficially tho). Blv wat u want to as you clearly have no brain to think.
Anonymous, you are the idiot. The judges have spoken and any non-idiot will accept that decision and be silent. Pacquiao’s win is also supported by Compubox which had Pacquiao landing more punches. So stop calling Filipinos idiots because you are the idiot, whoever you are.
yeahh…….. in your dreams. idiot.
Step n Release… Perfect execution by Marquez. Best footwork I’ve ever seen! Even pacquiao didn’t noticed it ‘coz his mind was busy on his upper bodies’ activity. Something like someone bump you and taking your pocket at the same time.
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i agree
all filipinos r idiots who no nothing about boxing if u go through the fight again they stand on each others feet about 12 times each because ov ther fighting styles marquez won the fight by about i had it 8 to 4 for marquez pac cant win counter punchers and floyd beats both on same night
Floydie had 2 chances to make the Mega Fight happen. He even went on vacation and was not thinking of boxing at that time. Now the table has turned and Bob is no longer interested (at the moment).
So it is no use crying over a spilled milk Floydie.
i don’t understand all this b/s about pac being an all time great,what an insult to the truly great fighters of the past..honestly,what an insult
Pacquaio really won the fight but i dont care bec. They are both my hero in boxing, and my inspiration.no matter what what happen they are both the true champion in boxing and the greatest. Pacquaio and marquez are good example not only for the filipino or mexicans but for the whole nation. I like pacquaio for being humble and marquez for being brave to stand no matter how many times he falls. Million salute for pacquaio and marquez
When a south paw fight an orthodox fighter their foot clash most of the time. No tricks at all… I’m just saying
What does marquez need 2 do? Kill manny so he can win? Or shud the wbo fire the 3 judges? Everyone knows that marquez won even roach,ariza,and manny himself. I cant believe they were stupid enough 2 predict a manny 1st round ko.
Pinoys have a reasoning problem.
Pacquaio and marquez please review the fight .pacquao clearly won the fight. Try to count the punches on both fighter. Pacquaio landed more punches compared to marquez. I advice pacquaio and marquez to get a pen and and a piece of paper and count the punches on both fighters. And do it fairly without being influence of the commentator of primetime and hbo. Thanks!
All that needs to come out,is that PAC used roids.
We don’t wanna see boring mayweather more than anything pacquiao needs Marquez because MARQUEZ SCHOOLED PAC MAN made him look bad and Marquez got robbed 1st is 1st with the 4th Marquez vs pacquiao
Lol! Blame all this on Marquez. He exposed PAC. Man…all went down the sewer pipes!
pacquiao never wanted mayweather
Arum has never wanted this fight, the gravy train would be derailed. Let us see who stands in-between this time around.
Didn’t I say it…that the truth will soon come out?
Nothing, but the truth.
Bob never wanted the fight
pac vs marquez 12 rounds was far better than floyd vs ortiz cheap shots