Roach: Don’t make an issue of Marquez’s foot stomping of Pacquiao, it’s part of the game
November 23rd, 2011
By Chris Williams: Loyal boxing fans of WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao have been upset recently about the five times that Juan Manuel Marquez accidentally stepped on the feet of Pacquiao during their recent fight on November 12th.
Roach said to Fight Saga “It’s [foot stomping] part of the sport. When lefties [southpaws] fight righties, it happens all the time. It happens and it’s part of fighting a southpaw [Pacquiao], so don’t think it should be a big of an issue. Don’t make an issue out of it.”
In other words, don’t get your panties in a bunch about Marquez accidentally stepping on Pacquiao’s feet five times in the fight because if that’s all it took for Marquez to control the fight then it really doesn’t say much about Pacquiao, does it?
Instead of looking at the foot stomping, Pacquiao fans should look at why Pacquiao was so inept at cutting off the ring and defending himself from Marquez’s counter punches. Floyd Mayweather Jr. handled Marquez with ease, cutting off the ring and getting out of the way of Marquez’s counter shots. It was too easy for Floyd. But Pacquiao looked like an amateur against Marquez and was completely clueless at times.
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@CheeseWiz So if Manny lands 10 jabs then Marquez rocks Pac with 4 huge hayemakers in a round are you telling me you’d score the round to Manny as he landed more punches, I don’t think so. Learn the rules you amateur.
You can defend Manny all you want like his little pet boyfriend but if you ask 100 boxing experts who won the fight 95% will say Marquez. Also if your judging fights by punch stats, I suppose you agree Marquez won the first 2 fights seeing as his punch stats were better than Manny’s in the first 2 fights.
Face facts pal Manny lost that fight and no matter how much you deny it you know like everyone else that Marquez deserved to win.
@ donkey
i am the precision boxer, pure science. Just becus a fighter throws and lands more doesnt mean n-e thing. Its about who wins more rounds and who landed the obvious and clearer shots. EVEN THE FILLIPINO press thought Marquez won AND DEEP DOWN SO DO U.
elorde hold the 135 lbs. division for almost seven years. his signature punch is somewhat left hook and upper cut, when he turn his back, it is finished. nobody see his punch, that is why he was called, flash elorde. now dont tell me, if you cant see the punch of manny, it is not there. of course it is there because we see the damage in marquez face.
Hey Chris, Floyd did not avoid Marquez’ counterpunches.
Floyd forced Marquez to be aggressive so Floyd can do the counterpunching. Being aggressive is not Marquez’ style so he lost. Two counterpunchers make a boring fight.
They are both counterpunchers so Floyd already had the advantage being taller/bigger. Plus Floyd intentionally make it overweight to make sure his advantage over the small and bloated Marquez. If Marquez’ conditioning at that time was same as his conditioning with his latest Pacman fight, Floyd cannot win all the rounds I think.
john says:
November 24, 2011 at 3:44 am
i doubt manny landed more punches,i don’t buy into that compubox thing,who’s to say they don’t make mistakes there.if people are going by manny landing a few more punches then i guess marquez won the first two fights…pacman fans are just embarrased because their so called pound for pound champion couldn’t ko jmm,after all their talking about how manny was going to “ko jmm in 6″ “how manny is so much improved since their last fight” “how manny has a right hand”…lol.yeah right,against bullshyt fighters like oscar,margarito,and so forth who wouldn’t look invincible?…jmm make him look silly,like an amateur…and thats why his retarted fans are upset because he looked so ordinary and not like the all time great they made him out to be,,,i still think fighters like ali,leonard,etc deserve an apology for the insult of even thinking for one minute manny was on their level
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You can cry me a river and that won’t change a thing. Quit acting like a little girl and get over it. Like I said before the easiest way to hit a person is to keep him from moving away. FACT! If you were a boxer you would know this. Now it happenned, but Pacquiao still won so enough BS talk already.
i doubt manny landed more punches,i don’t buy into that compubox thing,who’s to say they don’t make mistakes there.if people are going by manny landing a few more punches then i guess marquez won the first two fights…pacman fans are just embarrased because their so called pound for pound champion couldn’t ko jmm,after all their talking about how manny was going to “ko jmm in 6″ “how manny is so much improved since their last fight” “how manny has a right hand”…lol.yeah right,against bullshyt fighters like oscar,margarito,and so forth who wouldn’t look invincible?…jmm make him look silly,like an amateur…and thats why his retarted fans are upset because he looked so ordinary and not like the all time great they made him out to be,,,i still think fighters like ali,leonard,etc deserve an apology for the insult of even thinking for one minute manny was on their level
if we are going to watch the fight again in slow motion, it shows that marquez intentionally stepped the foot of pacman, and i just want to ask what was a yellow liquid color had marquez been drinking in the fight? now i hope every body is aware of that. cheaters really never win!
To all the Pac-fans… Before you reply to my message… Please do me a favor—- Please go to youtube and see who MANY TIMES, PACQUIAO stepped on Marquez’s foot.. They did it to each other– it’s a south paw style vs orthodox- learn the basics of boxing before you get animated with your premature responses.
Secondly— @ all the Pac-fans claiming that it’s only Mexican’s claiming that Marquez– on the real– EVERYONE except Pacfan’s are claiming that Marquez, even headlines in the PHILIPPINES are saying that Pacquiao LOST!
Pac camp and fans stop crying is yall think yall won the fight. Mike Jordan never cried about the game winning shot!
Just look at Manny’s face after the fight when he’s announced the winner just an empty expression, almost as if he knew he didn’t win.
the boxer says:
November 23, 2011 at 11:33 pm
@ pak pak
Let me school u on why in the first 2 fight they hardly footstepped each other and why at the same time this time they did. Its becuz Pacman tried to change up his footwork for this fight. And thats why he looked so amateurish. HE DIDNT KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING.
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This is how STUPID the boxer is… It does not matter what Pacquiao did with his foot work, it was Marquez stepping on Pacquiao foot and not the other way. Easiest way to hit a person is to keep him from moving away. FACT! If you were a boxer you would know this. Now it happenned, but Pacquiao still won so enough BS talk already.
U CAN WATCH THE REPLAY A MILLION TIMES AND YOU KNOW THE TRUTH,THERES NO WAY MARQUEZ WON THAT FIGHT,IF U BELIEVE MARQUEZ WON THEN YOURE IETHER A FLOYDS FAN,A MEXICAN,FLIP WHO HATES OTHER FLIP,ROOKIE OR A HATER.
@ pak pak
Let me school u on why in the first 2 fight they hardly footstepped each other and why at the same time this time they did. Its becuz Pacman tried to change up his footwork for this fight. And thats why he looked so amateurish. HE DIDNT KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING.
Certainly that’s not the issue! The real issue is until now these sore losers just won’t shut up their mouth. They still continue to cry, whine, hate and curse. But hey, let them suffer the agonizing sting of defeat until they finally lost their mind.
foot stomping 36x in 12 round is accidental only chriss, part 1 and part 2, marquez don’t use this tactic..
Do not read Williams article.He is non-sense
@ Focker
Are you serious or are u joking about a southpaw and righty stepping on each others foot. IF IT HELPS PACMAN DID THE 1ST OF MANY FOOT STEPPING 18 SECONDS INTO THE FIGHT.
Stan, Stomping didn’t happen in the first two fights, Marquez did it on purpose, Roach can aware the referee about it so that he can watch closely if it is intentional or not, Call me stupid again and I fock your wife.
@ Archie
I am a fan of the sport of boxing. I dont judge who is more popular. i judge who won the fight by damage, clean punching, ring general ship and EFFECTIVE AGGRESSION. Marquez was aggressive sometimes w/ the left uppercut followed by right hand and hardly missed and he also landed SUPERB BODY SHOTS. besides Pacman always lost his balance by trying to reach and ended up getting caught w/ clean, hard shots. End of story.
@floyd fan … it jut proves that Roach has nothing to hide regarding his fighters.
Regarding RBT, Many has agreed to the term in his interview with ESPN. Floyd just need to sign the first contract he agreed to with the addition of the RBT.
Floyd … please stop hiding and sign the contract.
Foot stepping contest won by Marquez!!!
Joke! Joke! Joke! Joke! Joke! Joke!
Ok. Everybody move on.
again pacfools wont believe roach unless he is saying floyd is scared but when roach slips up and tells the truth pacfools disregard his words,
like when he said oscar was washed up before they fought him same with shane
and you fools put a video out claiming pac had trouble because of stomping foot.
explain why roach trains khan and pacquiao and he is willing to let khan drug test but not manny?????????????
marquez and pacquioa should move on, maybe their style is not fit to each other. 36 rounds is enough, but if the audience insist them to fight, why not?
Marquez’s face after the fight, tells it all.
Pac didnt get whooped!!end of story.He looked awkward and didnt dominate in the same way he has for ages.But if you watch it again a few times ,he fairly won the fight.Just not a s dominantly as usually does.Boo hoo marquez got a fair decision again.Marquez is just jealous of Pacmans success and in fairness by some freak of nature manages to give Pacquiao a hard time,but do any of you haters really believe that Marquez could have done to De la hoya,Ricky hatton,cotto,and Margarito what Pacquiao did
didnt think so.
Eddie sir, you must be a fan of PAC and it seems like you don’t know much about the sport of boxing. Fighters stomp on each others foot all the time. You are an angry man, so sad for you bro. Freddy is not retarded he knows his fighter didn’t perform good and that is why he is not making any excused for him. You should listen to him more you’d learn something from him.
Marquez needs to move on. He has had his ride on the Pacquiao Gravy train. Marquez needs to find another Gravy Train to ride.
@TheBoxer
1/3 of Manny´s fans and the 3 judges, don´t forget that.
@ J-man
Did u see the fight because EVERYONE is saying Marquez got ROBBED AGAIN except 1/3 of Pacman’s former fans. The ‘real’n truth hurts.
Mexicans are losers anyway they would do anything to cheat.
Your all need to see what really happened in marquezs corner between the round where he was given a coloured liquid instead of water…You Tube have many views already. So the real cheat is Marquez…Not Pac Man
Pacquiao never complained about it cause he did it too,. The only difference Pacquiao tried hard to avoid it while Marquez stayed there as long as he could for more than 6x. Remember Marquez went to ballet just for this fight to learn balance.
@miver
Enjoy your moral victory, which doesn´t count for jack S–T. That sounds like a real loser speaking.
Marquez can dry his eyes on the $5 million he got.
Its stupid. I mean c’mon, how is marquez going to look n step on pac’s foot in the middle of fighting. Especially the way pac jumps around. Even if he did, it didnt or wouldnt of changed much in the fight. Marquez wasnt robbed n pacquiao fought a much better version of marquez than mayweather without cheating the scales. Pacquiao took marquez’s best shots n still backed marquez down. Mayweather has the advantage over pac but who else brings the heat like pac?
it seems like the only sore losers ic in here are pac fans cause your the only one making excuses.get over it biches you won on paper b happy as for the ppl who have eyes we al know who won the fight and it goes like this p4p floyd as much as i dislike the miyate hes number one then marquez martinez then pacman so stop cryin g like sum spoiled b rats whenever thing dont go their way. bwuhahahaahahhahahahaahahaha
Marquez was the aggressor in his fight with Floyd. He was forced to….Meaning, he wasn’t fighting his game but fighting Floyd’s game. Floyd was just smarter…all throughout the fight Marquez was initiating the action but he was just slower then. Couldn’t find his mark against the bigger Floyd.
@Arc- Absolutely, Pacquiao won by majority decision. By the record.That’s final period
Forget Marquez, we have nothing to do with him, I know he ‘s sore loser as what he said.
stepping on the foot of Manny is the surprise that JMM said before the fight happen ,but its not good enough to beat Manny! and i hope Floydrats can convince their coward idol to fight B fighter like Manny!
@Pug
In every sport it often happens that who we believe should have won eventually loses. That´s sports and that´s life my friend and at the end of the day as cliche as you may think it is, regardless of all the surveys, public opinion etc, the W will never get taken away from Manny vs Marquez III.
So at the end of the day, what you think or sergio martinez or what I think doesn´t mean anything. Manny won´t be thought of as a lesser fighter for this fight, his body of work will ultimately be how we think of him. Same with Marquez.
Manny got the win … Marquez another lost.
No matter how much crying Marquez’s camp does … they cant turn back time.
MOVE ON!!!!!
Cheez(y) Whiz, thanks for another cliche. Judges scorecards, while official, dont always tell the whole story. Polls everywhere show that both boxing insiders and the general public feel, as a majority, that JMM won. I don’t look back at Chavez as a victor over Pernell, don’t look at ODLH as a victor over Sturm, etc etc. Do you?
@Pug
This is not the first controversial decision and won´t be the last but at the end of the day, a win is a win whether any of us like it or not, that´s boxing, if you don´t knock your opponent out this is the risk.
Archie, you can spin it more than a washing machine on high, and throw out as many cliches as you want. You are in the minority.
“Where are all the Fillipino’s, they dont know how to respond to the truth. HAHAHA”
” Sore loser’s people they don’t know how to respond to the truth.” Venderleaf BC
JMM did a good job of fighting Manny straight on in the pocket. Manny had a very tough time of trying to get JMM to his side so that he could throw those angle shots. JMM moved alot to stay straight ahead of Manny. He denied Manny those angle shots. Manny couldn’t turn JMM because JMM was using his footwork to neutralize Manny’s movement of attacking. JMM wanted to make sure Manny stays in front and don’t give Manny any angles, that was the key for JMM.
OK, so excuses are now limited to marquez being on steroids, a fight with Jinkee, not listening to Ariza’s training methods (ariza himself has flip flopped on how camp went 4 times) and compubox stats being the deciding factor in a bout.
@TheSnake
The only thing I need to know is that Marquez has 2 losses and a draw against Manny, regardless of what you think you know. Bottomline is this, Marquez lost. Go buy yourself a box of kleenex and wipe your tears away and move on, life goes on.
Also, you´re wrong. There are no clear standards for scoring fights, so when you see he landed the cleaner more effective punches that means nothing unless you want to show me in the punch stats where it says ´clean punches´ or ´effective punches.´ Fighters win rounds and punch stats are for punches thrown and landed so go and study some more.
for the boxer says:
No response needed…Pacman won..period live with it.
@CheeseWiz Sorry “dude” but if you knew anything about boxing scoring, you’d realise that it’s not who lands the most punches it’s who lands the most clean, effective punches that have the most impact on the opponent and that was Marquez by a country mile. Even Pacquiao said after the fight that Marquez hurt him on a number of occasions. Why do you think Freddie Roach told Manny before the start of the 12th round that he needed to KO or at least knock down Marquez.
Great article
@ dik destroyer….it doesnt take a knock down to beat pacquiaos a.s.s like marquez did
Where are all the Fillipino’s, they dont know how to respond to the truth. HAHAHA
Marquez cannot even knock Pacquiao down. Much more win a fight against d’ P4P king….
Great Article
Foot stomping is illegal in boxing if you got caught. Referee should warn the fighter if it happen excessively. Roach cannot complain now because the fight is over. He failed to notice it also and I blame him for that. If you watch the fight, every time Marquez step on Pacquiao foot, Pacquiao got out balance and he got hit. Marquez didn’t win anyway!
They should tie Marquez’s feet together next time, only fair right?
This was the biggest non-argument ever for Pacquaio not winning decisively. It can’t possibly be that Marquez is just a tough opponent for Pacquaio. There is no shame in that.
@TheSnake
Manny landed more punches at a better rate. Not sure what fight you were watching. That´s 2 losses for Marquez, sorry dude, move on.
Are you people serious. freddy roach is retarded he talks crazy. if it so common for foot stomping between lefties and righties why didnt he train pac to take advantage of it like marquez did.
Marquez still lost.
BOXERS FIGHT TOE TO TOE !!! DON’T YOU KNOW !!!
Come on Pacquaio fans, you don’t honestly believe this is the reason Pac got whooped do you. Just admit it, although Pacquiao got the nod he got dominated by Marquez fair and square.
Ah ha! so that’s the reason Marquez completely dominated Pacquiao. So all you need to do to beat one of the best fighters in the world is stamp on his foot a couple of times. So it has absolutely nothing to do with Marquez’s superior skills and tactics.
It´s a tough pill to swallow but the judges call fights, not the fighters. We could probably make an argument either way. The reality is that style wise this fight will go this way 100 times. I wouldn´t pay a penny to watch them fight again or even watch it for free on the internet.
Actually that an issue. Don’t take it for granted. That’s why Roach made an statement.
there u go pactards shut up
but-but-but the ‘footstopper’ is a dirty tactic!
lol.
pinoys. smh.