Pacquiao vs. Mayweather or Marquez? Roach has the solution
November 21st, 2011
By John F. McKenna (McJack): Ever since the November 12 fight between World Boxing Council (WBC) welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao (54-3-2, 38 KO’s) and WBO/WBA lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez (54-6-1, 39 KO’s) boxing fans have been asking the question what’s next for Manny Pacquiao?
What made those fights so compelling is that Ali and Frazier had no qualms about putting their fistic reputations on the line. In fact both fighters were eager to prove to the boxing world who the best heavyweight in the world was.
Unfortunately for boxing fans those days are long gone. Numerous attempts have been made by boxing promoters to strike a deal and get Pacquiao and Mayweather into the ring. Try as they might though the powers that be in boxing have been unable thus far to arrange what has been referred to as the “Dream Match” between Pacquiao and Mayweahter. Both camps are equally adamant in blaming the other side for the break down in negotiations and their loyal fans are just as adamant in supporting their hero.
After Pacquiao’s less than stellar performance against Marquez, the Mayweahter camp has made comments indicating that their fighter is eager to move forward in an attempt to nail down the long anticipated fight with “Pacman”. In fact prior to Pacquiao’s bout with Marquez, Mayweahter’s people secured a date of May 5, 2012 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas for a bout against a fighter only identified as the “Little Fellow”. Since Top Rank CEO Bob Arum had never been notified of either the date or the venue the Mayweather camp was not taken seriously.
After Manny’s highly controversial win over “El Dinamita” Arum expressed the opinion that another Pacquiao – Marquez fight was in order. Not everyone agrees with Uncle Bob. After three fights it is pretty much a given that another Pacquiao – Marquez fight would again be close and controversial no matter who wins.
Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach is of the opinion that if a bout with Mayweather can be arranged, than that is the fight he would like to see Manny take. When asked if Marquez should get a rematch Roach speaking to Max Boxing said:
“But the thing is if Mayweather comes to the table first, that’s the fight everyone wants to see. We’d like to get that one out of the way and then Marquez can fight the winner, I guess.”
To Roach it is all very simple. A bout with Marquez would bring in around $30 million, while a fight with “Money” Mayweather would bring in over three times that amount. And after a Mayweahter fight, a bout with Marquez would still be there.
Roach’s reasoning is that if for whatever reason a Pacquiao – Mayweather fight never happens a $100 million fight will have gone down the drain.
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mike says:
November 21, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Why is it that now mayweather and his team are eager to fight pac man right away, when pac man has been calling him out a long time ago. Marquez fought good, but folks Pac is the champ and marquez couldn’t even knock him down. Marquez should fight Martinez or cotto. A pacman – marquez 4 would be just another match that we now pac will win
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The Mayweather Team called PEDquiao out over 2 years ago and he was scared and instead decided to fight Clotty. Even before Marquez beat Pacquiao, the Mayweather Team had already announced that Mayweather would be fighting on May 5th and wanted PEDquiao. So Team Mayweather has always been willing to fight it’s just that PEDquiao always had excuse not to fight.
-Won’t take the test
-Scared of needles
-Whatever Arum says
-He can’t come outside and play
-His baby toe hurts
-Mayweather hurt his wittle feelings suggesting RBT
oops was for @chicagogato … The movie Planet of the Ape is about the future of the Mayweathers if Floydiots run the world.
@M4rkSDS … The movie Planet of the Ape is about the future of the Mayweathers if Floydiots run the world.
Why do americans mix up THEN and THAN?
The Analyzer says:
November 21, 2011 at 8:38 pm
“the fight between flody and pacman will determine whos really stronger a man or an ape….and whos the smarter between the two species…..”
The last time I checked an ape has straight hair and thin lips.
If Mayweather is as good as he thinks he is, take the fight to the Phillipines! What could be more dramatic than beating Manny in front of his own adoring fans! Another thriller in Manilla!
It would never happen, but I for one would pay big dollars to see it take place!
Why is it that now mayweather and his team are eager to fight pac man right away, when pac man has been calling him out a long time ago. Marquez fought good, but folks Pac is the champ and marquez couldn’t even knock him down. Marquez should fight Martinez or cotto. A pacman – marquez 4 would be just another match that we now pac will win.
you can’t judge any fight to where it will be going. try to look at pacquiao – marquez III. almost everybody predicted what’s gonna happen but suddenly, all was wrong.
Isn’t it funny knowing the Pacquiao cheese dip is done?
@stephen king “Its a missmatch, Mayweather will humiliate Manny..”
I’m afraid so, I’m noypi, but not blind – FMJ has got some serious skills, the guy started boxing in his diapers! Add to that the reach, height, and weight advantage, oh man, no one in the welterweight division can beat FMJ.
Then again I’ve underestimated Pacman before..
Look guys Before the Marquez fight Mayweather was Scared.
Pacman has Beat Hatton, De la Hoya Cotto, Margartio as Maywweather ducked him.
And Pacman can Beat Mayweather if he plays it smart like he did with De La Hoya.
Also Mayweather did really BAD against De La Hoya.
Let’s see if Mayweather Rematchs Victor Ortiz and Shuts him out!!!
@Archie, welterweight is @ 147lbs. and jr. welterweight is @140lbs. if that clears anything up.
Roach’s choice will be Manny Floyd at ten percent of estimated Manny?s purse of 4100 Million thatsa whopping $10 M for the joke coachraoch. Pop Floyd must be green with envy.
Torrecampo – catchweight.
Cotto – catchweight.
Margarito – catchweight.
Marquez – catchweight.
Foreman – suggested catchweight.
Mosley – demanded catchweight.
Martinez – demanded catchweight.
Anyone can look great in front of a stationary heavy bag. Especially when you make it less ‘heavy’ and even more ‘stationary’ by demanding crippling catchweights.
Marquez is an “A” Grade Junior Lightweight Fighter. He HIGHLY EXPOSED a B level WelterWeight Fighter. 2 levels above himself!
GREAT JOB JMM…NOW THAT IS A CHAMPION!!!
the fight between flody and pacman will determine whos really stronger a man or an ape….and whos the smarter between the two species…..
Ever been to the dog track? There are A/B/C level dogs. Never will a B or C dog win in an A race, unless the race is fixed. AKA, fighting under the Top Rank Label.
Put Manny in with the very best 2 years ago, Manny would have been exposed 2 years ago!
Wow, Flips, it must hurt pretty bad doesn’t it? What’s left, name calling and swearing. To tell you the truth, the only people that are surprised are the Pacquiao die hards. Noone even remotely thought Manny Pacquiao could beat FMJ but Pilipino’s.
Sorry my little friends, as much as you would like it for Manny Pacquiao, he was created by Bob Arum, and “SIMPLY IS NOT VERY GOOD”.
TRUTH HURTS…
its clear manny does not want this fight so his camp might as well be quiet and everyone might as well move on. Manny has always refused to fight anyone on top of there game for a long time now. We all know get destroyed then he gives u a shot.
I don’t think FMJ will fight 49 fights. I think he will retire at 45-0.
His next victims…
1) Manny Pacquiao
2) Amir Khan
3) Unknown
Then he will retire…
Mr. joto isidro,don’t fool yourself into thinking your idol manny has a chance against Mayweather. I am a fan of neither fighter. The only good thing coming out of this fight will be the end of the p.a.c.t.a.r.d.s. after Mayweather gives him a humiliating boxing lesson. The fight itself will be boring,with Mayweather peppering pacquiao’s giant noggin and moving,while making pacquiao stumble around the ring trying to catch him. Same dose for 12 rounds.
@Archie, let me understand this so I am not getting confused.
Manny Pacquiao just went 12 FULL ROUNDS with a 38 year old Junior Lightweight fighter to a 3rd “Controversial” Decision, and his legacy is secure?
I should say “NOT” my little friend! Ther are more doubts surrounding Manny Pacquiao than anytime in his career. The world now knows for sure, as they have suspected all along, that Manny Pacquiao is a product of Matching him with very slow, forward plodding, former big name opponents. As Max Kellerman said, Manny Pacquiao has NOT fought an opponent that had since he fought JMM the last time.
Hmmm? If you have confidence in your idol, you should be begging for Pacquiao to get in there and beat the stew out of Mayweather…
Doubts? I do understand…
Why quibble?…Why do you oppose Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao getting into the squared circle?
I have preached Manny Pacquiao’s B- Grade long ago!!! Long before Pacquiao was exposed by Marquez.
Arum has realized the Masquerade is O.V.E.R.!!!
Now…as far as Manny Pacquiao fighting Mayweather like no other, If I can use an analogy, it would be like a 4 Cylinder Hundai going against a Porsche. Try as hard as you can, makes no difference. YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE!!!
There is no other option for Pacquiao. A 4th fight with Marquez could very well end in a loss! Are you willing to take that chance and risk $100 Million Dollars? I would say not.
lmao.
‘deathscare’
‘footstopper’
The sh1t that these worthless Filipinos come up with. SMH.
this topic is like a food that is expired.
if it werent for the money no one wants to see floyd trash manny but lets face it thats what will happen if they fight even max kellerman a pacquiao fan stated that marquez was the best fighter pacquiao has fought since they last fought that had anything left in the tank.
that means he thinks oscar, hatton, clottey , cotto, margarito, shane, david diaz all bums and washed up pacquiao fans have been fooled by arum why even suggest marquez again marquez should fight morales in mexico, mayweather should fight sergio martinez at 150 pacquiao should fight cotto margarito winner again then he should fight the loser then bob arum wins
I hope I can get a license to fight Cotto!
@ sluggerbug
At 147 no man alive can beat Floyd!
By the way Floyd wins, Loaded Gloves down!
Why are entire race’s insulted on this website when we are talking boxing, most of you chumps are internet bad boys that won’t eat hard candy…. get in the ring and stop hiding behind a keyboard. Real men fight, but not with LOADED GLOVES!
I agree with Roach, we’ve already done Pac vs Marquez let’s move on to Mayweather vs Pac. Win or lose for either fighter would stop all of the “who’s the better fighter” comments. But like I said before just because Pac struggled with Marquez doesn’t mean he will have the same problems with Mayweather.
floyd/ortiz failed in the ppv, far from hitting the 1mill mark. only gbp bs that took over a month tell the lie about the fmj/ortiz ppv result. hbo nor ppv never confirmed any numbers. they would do a rematch if it was a good number. like the pac/jmm a rematch is going to be a mega bo office ppv.
Filipinos are stupid and worthless.
There’s a reason why they got chased out of Iraq by a bunch of ragheads in sandals.
@kotr….. U are correct manny marquez would be a better fight a fight with floyd would just be a one sided tail whipping. i think mannys camp is getting sick of him being a puppet and are trying to get him to man up. Roach ariza both saying floyd needs to be the next fight.
Don’t need girl Floyd, Marquez 4 will be much better
hate articles that show how they don’t keep up with whats going on for 1 Mayweather was eager to fight him before he fought marquez lets not get this twisted pacman been beatable all u had to do was open ur eyes
nobody knows, floyd has never fought anybody like manny and manny hasnt fought anyone like floyd ,thats why we want to see this fight,lets get it on!
@ppv king paquaio…. Ur opinion and actual numbers are two different things. Top selling ppv of all time top three non heavyweight ppv selling and grossing fights of all time ortiz mayweather his last fight is the secound highest non heavyweight grossing ppv of all time. There is a reason marquez manny was five dollers lerss then floyd ortiz. I guess a few of u are still not in touch with reality when it comes to manny.
Said this a thousand times; read my articles for the truth :
“Mayweather, Pacquiao & PEDS : Boxing 24″
Type it in google…
floyd with only his undefeated bargain chip to show for, it clearly tell the tale that this fool along with his blind fans are all mired from the past.
pac rematch jmm will be a mega box office revenues. pac is the ppv king for the past few years now. mayweather has nowhere to go, but pac man to even hit over 1.5mill ppv expectation. so floyd does not deserve to be put on the same sentence with pac man, he has to earn it again. i do not see how he will gain any ppv ratings like the way he use to, those days are long gone. like his career all mired from the oast with his confused fans.
arum and pac is todays boxing period.
ALL HAIL BOB!
If the solution is Tim Bradley then I refuse to hear it.
What I don’t understand is, at first the pac roids was say tell mayweather to find his balls and fight.then he nails down the mgm for a may5 th date, and now the pac roids cry who do he think he is?he can’t do that, I think its clear , so clear that even a pac roid can see that they don’t want to fight mayweather!
Floyd please don’t fight PACMAN. Don’t want to see you lose.
@ Dom: Don’t be too sure pal. Everyone thought Foreman would demolish Ali and look what happened.
Pacquiao needs to stay 4 years away from Marquez again. Just fight Mayweather first and winner can take on the great Marquez @ 14o lbs. next time.
@JOHN….That would be your average “PACTARD” My friend, they are a strange creature with little to no knowledge of the sport of Boxing.
If Pacquiao fight Floyd on May 5 and win, he can kill two birds in one stone. no one will question that he is better than Marquez. I think he will. Pacquiao’s 10 year old son was in TV this morning and he want his dad to fight Floyd next.
I hope it’s Mayweather because I have about 10 Pactards betting me 100$ that Pacquiao win’s so that’s 1000$ I’ll collecty easy.
unbelieavable that people here still think floyd is afraid of manny after manny looked like shyt after the marquez fight,unbelievable
Pacquiao fights JMM he wins another decision
Pacquiao fight’s Mayweather he loses by UD or TKO.
i agreed to you anonymous, floydrats needs to go out and help floyd find his 2 balls to make the fight that boxing fans want to see.
Keep it 100. I agree. Hate to say it but a boring points win for mayweather. I think the fight will happen as well because of the dodgy decision pac man received.
Floyrats needs to help their idol Floydie to find his eggs so fight will happen!!!
I agree with Roach … fight Fraud Floyd now because he may run under a rock again.
Marquez will still be there; Marquez only big money fight is with Manny.
Floyd … please meet with Arum and sign the contract. You are the only reason why this fight is on hold.
Manny has agreed to the RBT.
Pacs WBO champ maywathers WBC
i’m a very big fan of money mayweather.he’s the greatest boxer of all time. though i’m afraid that pacquiao will knock him out.i really do.he has no chance with the aggresiveness of manny.i dont like that pacquiao.he is a self centered SOB, i dont like him.he is evil.but i really think that he will knock my idol money mayweather
dont fight him money may!
This fight needs to hapoen so the rest of the boxing world can move on. They have been stealing too much shine with only hope. Its too easy to not engage in boxing, n mayweather would have no shame in doing it. Could end up being the biggest hyped snoozer of all time!
i m seeing a manny vs mayweather bout, manny will beat floyd with a decision, then again it will be controversial, then another rematch where pacquiao will def. mayweather in a decision which will be controversial yet again, then a 3rd match where pacquiao will knock mayweather out.
@ Stephen
I agree with you on all of your points. I just don’t see how Manny could win that fight based on the styles and size difference but fear of losing should never be a reason not to fight.
Regardless of outcome everyone wants to see this fight happen and even if Manny does lose he will at least have $50 million to lay his head on at the end of the day.
Its a missmatch, Mayweather will humiliate Manny, I am a Manny P fan and he has done great things in the sport.
Hes a gentleman, sportsman and loved by his people, we all know Floyd’s character and how he would go about the build up. I dont want to see the fight because I feel Manny would be humiliated in the build up and in the fight Floyd would embarriss him with a slow beating.
Manny dont fight him.