Pacquiao says he had foot cramps in Marquez fight
November 13th, 2011
By Chris Williams: With the Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez fight now over with Pacquiao winning a controversial points decision last Saturday night, the excuses are already starting to pop up for why Pacquiao struggled so badly against the 38-year-old Marquez. You knew the excuses would come, but I didn’t expect them to happen so quickly from Pacquiao and his trainer Freddie Roach. One of the reasons Pacquiao looked so awful last night appeared to lose the fight by a comfortable margin was that he had foot cramps. Not sure what Pacquiao can do for his chronic cramps problem. Sure does sound like an excuse to me.
I bet. I think Pacquiao is just getting old. I’m sure Marquez had his aches and pains but he’s not bringing them up because he’s not into making excuses. But then again, he has no reason to make any excuses. He fought beautifully against Pacquiao last night and deserved to win the fight.
Roach also came to Pacquiao’s rescue with the excuses, saying “It was difficult for Manny. His in and out motion was affected and he was coming in flatfooted. The pain started n his arches and then spread up to his calf.”
How sweet, Roach is making excuses for Pacquiao. Roach looked completely flummoxed at what to tell his fighter Pacquiao. You could see Roach spinning his mental gears but nothing he came up with seemed to help his fighter. In the end, Roach was jabbering away without any positive action from Pacquiao. And I figured that Roach and Pacquiao would come up with excuses after the fight and sure enough here we are with the excuses. How sad. I do buy that Pacquiao had some cramps but I don’t think there’s much you can do about it. Pacquiao is 32 now, and that’s when you start seeing your body act up on you, especially with the small fighters like Pacquiao. He’s getting old now and cramps are one way for your body to tell you that you’re not a spring chicken anymore. Pacquiao no jumps around like he used to, and that’s been like that for the past year and half. It didn’t just happen this fight. pacquiao has really lost his foot work, and that’s why Marquez had such as any time with him last night compared to the last two times he fought Pacquiao.
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@timo
The percentage of punches connected does not really matter. When a fight is close, the aggressor would get the round.
If a boxer throws only 10 punches and connects on all 10 the percentage is 100%. But if his opponent throws 200 and connects on 50%, 100 punches are counted as hits. Clearly 100 punches is better than 10 if you will decide who should win the fight.
Maybe Marquez 32% would be lower if he did not step on his opponent’s foot. And what’s Marquez whining about? He got pain $5 Million just for showing up.
the king has no clothes
@ Kanuto,
You make no sence!!
You’ll have foot cramps too if you are stepped on. Try searching the net about “Marquez Foot Stop Trick” and see.
well, all the footage shows why manny had foot cramps. anyone care to say anything about it? all i have to say is, “marquez, get the stepping!” too funny.
ITS FUNNY CUZ AS BIG AS HIS LEGS ARE CMON SON!!! IF IM NOT MISTAKING HE SAID THAT HIS LEGS CRAMPED UP THE LAST FEW OR COUPLE FIGHTS!!??
The last name Williams means he’s probably a Mayweather fan if you know what I mean. So he has to hate Pacquiao of course. I just laugh at all these cry babies. Cry for me cry babies. Cry.
@NEMESIS HIS FOOT CRAMP REASON IS LEGIT YOU Didn’t SEE HOW MANY TIMES MARQUEZ F**KING STEP ON IS FOOT???
Manny clearly win the fight.. the only thing that JMM can do is to cry because he doesn’t even beat Manny in the ring.. if you watch again the fight,try to answer your doubt… Did JMM really beat Manny???? and for floyd,why don’t you try to fight Manny and will see what the outcome will be.. for now i think floyd is the winner 116-0 for trash talking fight..
He got cramps because marquez was stepping on his foot on many rounds. Just search my username in yahoo answers. I got the link there
how in the world can any one look at this fight and say pacquiao would beat mayweather is CRAZY.. MAYWEATHER WOULD BEAT THIS OVERRATED BUM!
Pac wins via fraud decision and many pet dogs in philipines get slaughtered for dinner.
@timo he missed more punches but he was the active fighter and thats how you have to give away points in a close fight.
im not a pacquiao fan but i think he won a close fight and i don’t understand all this drama. look at the stats he trew and landed more normal and power punches.
just because the mexican crowd is not satisfied with the decision doesn’t mean they are right -.-
It’s funny how pac’s fans are now refering to compubox for pacs victory. they always criticise moneys win over castillo in the first fight even though CLEARLY may won the fight on compubox and with one hand. Also they criticise the fight against ODLH but CLEARLY according to compubox may had EASILY won the fight landing almost 20% more punches. Now if you pac fans can do your math Marquez actually landed 32% of punches compared to 30% for pac but pac gets the win! GTFO!! Pac may have thrown more and landed more but he also MISSED more!! Shocking!!!!
When you use a supplement that gives you extreme energy you’ll always get cramps in your feet specially in the toes . I remember when i was 23yrs old i used to take a supplement name ‘BSN N.O. Eplode’. It used to give me lots of cramps in my legs,feet,and in my tummy. I remember that it even gave me Diarrea constanly. then when i went to the docter he told me that i had produced an ulcer. But i remember those are the sign effects of peds. Pedman is indeed cheeting my friends.
jmm still did not kd or ko d pacman 4 a convincing victory.
Marquez thinks he won just because he punched the most, BUT Pacquiao punch less WITH More power! Marquez isnt Patient! at all at the end he thought he won so they lifted him up with his arms up sayin” he’s winner’ unlike pacquiao who just went on the side praying . Marquez is a cry baby/ whiner.
Pacquiao got hit with the clearer punches he looked frustrated he knew he lost that fight he missed a lot of punches i think he is overated just like nonito what happened to all those boxing fans oh manny is gona ko marquez in the first round
Floydiots shed a tear ^_^
MARQUEZ WON! No lie marquez will always be a better fighter pacow only has that one punch Marquez can punch with both hands
Marquez wonnnn!! He got robbed he gaved pacquiao a boxing lesson he whooped manny not just that it’s all over the world that Marquez won
so if it goes toe to toe, manny should lose? its like all of you are trying to put it as if manny should score a KO to win.. it was marquez who should be in that position he is the challenger. sure, pac didnt put on a spectacular show, but hey, JMM didnt do much either. i think we are all just expecting too much from manny.. give the guy a break.
pacquaio clearly won, don’t ask me ask the compubox they don’t lie but haters lie everytime. losers get it over with you won’t win thats enough don’t be too much cry baby coz all of you pro maquez have some school for boxing so you’ll understand. your guy jmm is not a though warrior he just counter punch and hoping the judge can take care, no way, the judges are not dumbed as what jmm thinks
I’m blaming Nacho for saying that they’re winnjing the fight and Marquez did nothing on the last two rounds. He should have told Marquez to give eveything that he got without hesitation and that he needs a knockout to win the fight.
It was a close fight and Pacquiao won by two points in my opinion.
im a massive pacman fan but also an honest boxing fan and manny got his ass handed to him on a plate last night one o the worst decisions ever i always said manny would destroy floyd but after last night im struggling to see anything other than a floyd win it hurts to say that has manny become bad overnight of course not but jmm and mosley clottey too wernt exactly great performances jmm must now be dissolusioned with the sport that he loves
It’s interesting that Mayweather and Pacquiao have been in controversal fights this year. Perhaps a sign that they’ll be in the same ring in May.
hey retard, go watch mtv, stay out of boxing, you are sub species of lesser intellect.
Any of you who think that the marquez manny got schooled by last night is the same marquez mayweather faced are ignorant bandwagon fanatics. Marquez has now adjusted well to a heavier weight and I hope he gets to fight little floyd again.
Manny Pacquiao just earned himself a 25%-30% share of the purse in a Floyd Mayweather Jr. showdown.
It was a very close fight indeed.. but Pacquiao is the Champion and Marquez the challenger. To steal the belt from the champ you must be the agressive fighter. You must understand that they started as Pacquiao being the Belt Holder so Marquez should show the judges that he is the truly the better fighter. He must show it throughout the fight. Otherwise, it is stupid to give Marquez the belt for an ordinary performance. It was a very very close fight and the Champion/Belt Holder should retain the belt.
violet says:
November 13, 2011 at 2:13 pm
The difference between Pacquiao and Marquez is that Pacquiao is and will always be a “gentleman”, unlike Marquez who is and will always be a “sore loser”. If the judges will say that Manny lost, Manny’s reaction will be very different from Marquez. I’m sure he will congratulate Marquez and will not blame the judges like in their previous fights which Manny’s camp think they won the fight. Such humility, and that’s Pacquiao. Marquez? Such arrogance and bruteness!!
ASI OMAS MEDIOCRE…NO PUEDO CREER TANTA ESTUPIDES…NO CABE DUDA QUE VIERON OTRA PELEA…TIENEN LA CABESA LLENA DE ESCREMENTO….ES IRONICO LOS PRIMEROS 3 ROUNDS SELA DAN A PAQUIA..NO MAMEN HDP!!!!
The little fella is a fraud
The difference between Pacquiao and Marquez is that Pacquiao is and will always be a “gentleman”, unlike Marquez who is and will always be a “sore loser”. If the judges will say that Manny lost, Manny’s reaction will be very different from Marquez. I’m sure he will congratulate Marquez and will not blame the judges like in their previous fights which Manny’s camp think they won the fight. Such humility, and that’s Pacquiao. Marquez? Such arrogance and bruteness!!
I think if thier is a 4 fight between Pacquiao and Marquez it must be 15 round.To all loser pay your bill now stop crying.
that is a wake up call to Jr, Daddy, Uncle.RBT is not the answer to beat Pacquiao good training,goodboxing less garbage talk.You see they shaking thier hand nobody hit when one want to shake the hands.Ok Jr you come out now Pacquiao have foot problem this is your type an easy fight
This fight shows how easily Floyd will.dominate pacquio
MARQUEZ UNA VEZ MAS LE DIO CATEDRA AL TANGALO PAQUIAO….NO ASE FALTA DEVATIR PERO QUE DO CLARO QUE LA MAFIA DEL BOX LE INTERESA MAS LO ECONOMICO QUE LO DEPORTIVO….UY SI, IY SI PAQUIAO LIBRA X LIBRA PORFAVOR!!! QUE DO CLARO QUE BOB ARUM ES EL DOLAR X DOLAR!!….LOS FANS DE PAQUIAO TIENEN LA CABEZA INFLADA DE ESCREMETO….HBO CON TODO RESPETO PASAS A CHINGAR A TU MADRE!!!! XD GRASIAS.
ATTE ALDITO.
Maybe Mayweather will be man enough to fight Pacquiao since the champ struggled with Marquez. It should be an easy win for Floyd since Pacman slowed down quite a bit and now he was calling
Floyd to fight him. Marquez is not man enough to accept defeat.As a challenger, he should be the aggresor to take the belt from the champion. What we saw is never ending retreat and occasional counter-punching with no ability to dethrone the champ. I think Marquez should change career and fight for MMA and UFC.
Foot cramps or not. Bottom line he won. Now kindly GTFO.
that was a close fight, but here’s the thing… AS A CHALLENGER, YOU HAVE TO “CLEARLY” BEAT THE CHAMP. YOU DON’T JUST OUTBOX HIM A LITTLE , OUTHIT HIM A LITTLE. YOU HAVE TO BE THE AGGRESSOR, YOU HAVE TO TAKE CHANCES. MARQUEZ DIDN’T…IN A VERY CLOSE FIGHT LIKE THIS ONE, THE CHAMP GETS THE NOD.
last time I see the record books .. Pacquiao has a “W” and Marquez a “L”. Get it over with. Pacquiao won and you haters all lost $$$. You will always blame someone else EXCEPT your boxer who DID NOT do anything to WIN. He counter-punched but thats it. You don’t win by counterpunching, you win by BEATING the opponent. Marquez NEVER dominated Pacquiao. Everything all equal, the AGGRESSOR always win. LIVE WITH THAT!
SORE LOSERS
MARQUEZ VOS PARA MI SOS GRANDE!!! VOS DIJO ES FACIL ENFRENTAR UN OPONENTE PERO GANR COTRA CUATRO IMPOSIBLE…..
I see a lot of users here that normally accuse Pacquiao of being on steroids. I see these users now saying he’s slow. He’s old. He’s not Supermen. That he lost.
Make up your minds.
Your suppose take the champs belt, you don’t let it get that close, Marquez lost a close fight, but Pacquiao definitely won, get over it. its not even debatable, the punch stats will tell you that.
Have we all watched the same fight? Marquez was good BUT manny was better! Stop dragging about Marquez! The judges were fair! Sore losers.
Pacquiao won LEGALLY!!! Marquez LOST LEGALLY!!! Whatever you Marquez fans are saying, as if you’re all better than the judges from all the Pacquiao-Marquez fight, your idol just counterpunched,and HE LOST!! Why Marquez is so afraid to attack Manny because he knows by do so, he will be KO’d by Manny. Sorry to all of you but you are all just SORE LOSERS like your idols!!! You even say that the judges are paid, that Compubox can be manipulated, that Manny is making excuses for his cramps. SORE LOSERS!!!
Mayweather needs to hurry up and beat the brakes off this guy so everyone can shut up about Pac-Man already. It seems like the fights get easier and easier for Mayweather.. EASY MONEY!!! Mayweather is gonna beat Pac-Man and then Martinez and once again be the best that boxing has to offer..
you dont ask for permission in taking a championship from someone. YOU TAKE THE DDAMMNN THING. just like when pacquiao took that belt from marquez in 04 and 08.
you dont take a championship by points and hopeful that youd score enough of it without risk. marquez was trying to take that belt but he didnt do enough. wtf did he do really? wait fopr pac to punch so he could counter just for pac to get even right away?
however, admitting that jmm is one tough taco, pacquiao was expected of too much by his fans.
back in the day when pacquaio was only pacquiao. no kids, no seat in congress, no millions of poor people depending on him. all just him and boxing, not afraid to get hurt.
pacquiao’s sense of responsibility on other things kicks in.
with that I say boxing is not all in pacquiaos mind anymore. he is not the same.
but marquez is still the same marquez from 7 years ago. could only give pacquiao a close fight, could never annihilate pacquiao.
Records will show a “W” for Pac… albeit one with an “*” beside it.
Hamstrings against Mosley and now foot cramps against Marquez. Lots of excuses
First of all Marquez won! Second: whats up Ariza?! I thought PAC was going knock Marquez out in first round. What’s up Roach?! I thought your fighter was going destroy Marquez. PAC ain’t nothing.Marquez is still going run his mouth that he won. So,there’s got to be another rematch. Third: if PAC can’t destroy Marquez,how the F..U…C he going beat Mayweather?!?! Ain’t no way!! I’m out! Marquez rules!!!! Rematch!!!!!
congratulation. it seems ur getting another big payday from this fight. all youse got to do is keep writing hate articles bout the pacman and yuoll keep putting food on the table. keep it up.
Excuses,Excuses!..Pacfans remember what did i told you guys ? Marquez was gonna teach pacquiao another boxing lesson ,and indeed thats what happen. another ‘Gift’ Decision for Pacquiao. Bob is the mobster here by paying the 3 American judges,and the HBO announcers. Marquez won it! and he got robbed by the 3rd time. More shame to the USA really bad ruling.
marquez should forget manny.. If he is not gonna retire he should try to set up a fight with khan next.
with the way manny was talking after the fight he wants no part of a rematch with marquez and he wants no part of floyd……. He knows marquez was juiced up but he cant make him take any tests since he wont take them himself.
November 12 2011 many paquiao received some boxing lessons from MARQUEZ boxing school. From he’s master JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ.
No matter what the judges says all the audience on the MGM can’t
be wrong.even paquiao himself did not raise his arms at the end of the fight because hi knows hi lost. but is a bad looser.
and MARQUEZ again won the fight and the crowd. congratulations Marquez You are far better boxer than paquiao
i think the biggest loser here is mayweather—it should have been him exposing pac man but the job has been done by marquez. The so called fight of the century has lost its edge
if you are sure that JMM won last night
check the video on this site ” click Boxing video at the top”
Pacquiao vs Marquez 3 Fight Highlights: Pacquiao beats Marquez, pacriods vs floydiots next!!!!!!!
“people lie numbers don’t” clear as a crystal who won the fight!
check the video on this site ” click Boxing video at the top”
Pacquiao vs Marquez 3 Fight Highlights: Pacquiao beats Marquez, pacriods vs floydiots next!!!!!!!
pacquiao fought the best mexican fighters when they where in their prime? its clear someone here does not know their boxing very well, pacquiao beat a battled erik morales after 3 wars with marco antonio barrera, pacquiao beat a battled barrera after 2 wars with erik morales, HE HAS “NOT” BEAT JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ lets be realistic an accept this, the only reason they “GAVE” this fight to pacquiao its because they want that multi million dollar mega fight with floyd mayweather, sorry pacman i “WAS” your fan i was expecting for you to atleast recognize that you lost this fight but instead you said that you won clearly NO YOU DID NOT in fact you “LOST” clearly
guess what? its 12 rounds and Manny won..
Marquez didn’t do any good. He was just waiting and back pedaling the whole time. He landed clean shots but Manny landed more shots. You can see through JMM’s face..
simple, put an A for JMM or B for manny WHO WON???
A
Cramps? Bring Mayweather out of his mother’s closet.
THAT IS A LOUSY EXCUSE BECAUSE MANNY’S FOOT WORK WAS GREAT SO HOW ON EARTH YOU HAD CRAMPS AND MANNY WAS MAKING CIRCLES AROUND THE P4P JMM .
Just admit that you lost the fight and give the belt to JMM if you are a gentleman .
marquez was backpeddling that was it sit and wait for pac man and he use some movement ok thats easy if a person want to play it safe and not get knock out. Pac man will be ok against floyd mayweather. They will work with pac man so that he can cut the ring off. Trust me freddy roach is a 5 time trainer of the year it will be fixed. Marquez didnt want to fight pac man tried to make it a fight thats it
check this videos on youtube!!!
Pacquiao vs Marquez 3 Fight Highlights: Pacquiao beats Marquez, pacriods vs floydiots next!!!!!!!
as Floyd fans always saying “people lie but numbers don’t lie”
marquez was backpeddling that was it sit and wait for pac man and he use some movement ok thats easy if a person want to play it safe and not get knock out. Pac man will be ok against floyd mayweather. They will work with pac man so that he can cut the ring off. Trust me freddy roach is a 5 time trainer of the you it will be fixed.
Marquez won the fight paquiao look like shait he was trying fight With out the juice he ain’t shait he needs The juice o steroids lookn as foo Roach just wanted to test him with out. The steroids but he knows He ain’t shlait
Well style do make fights pac man has been through lots of wars more than mayweather. Pac man fought alot of those mexicans when they was at their prime. He beat them but it was tuff. Mayweather never been through wars with any body so what are youll talkling about.
I agree with Lefty since JMM is the challenger he should have gone all out and knocked the champ out. JMM was not convincingly dominating the champ…he’s just waiting for pac… you have to DOMINATE him.
its very simple marqeuz gave pac a boxing lesson it was 1 of the best performences ive seen in yrs marqeuz was robbed and should get the rematch soon this isnt good for boxing i dont blame pac i blame arum this decsion keeps his money cow going marqeuz won no doubt about that in my mind arums just as bad as king get rid of this old guy before he tarnishes pacs legacy being a boxer myself i know pac knows he didnt win and if he is that great champ that i think he is he ll wont to fight again
I predicted YESTERDAY this very out come. I said it would a points win for Pac very close like 7 to 5 rounds! I did not see the fight yet but have read a ton of reviews on it. I can say that I have not read one article saying that some one thought Manny won! Dan Rafael on ESPN said he had it a draw. Most said that Marquez landed at a higher percent than Pacquiao and Juan won the bout no question. On espn they asked Pac if he thinks he got a gift decision just so they could fight Floyd. He said as usual, I leave it up to my promoter! BOOOOOO. I want to see him say “I want Mayweather next” or I want no part of Floyd Mayweather right now” …As I also said yeaterday I do not think Floyd Manny will be that good. Floyd would counter Manny all night, end of story. Manny will have no answer for Floyds style. If the fight does not happen in May, I am done with it! I will not be on the hook any longer. We all have been listening to excuses from both sides for years. Lets either make the fight and see who is best or let us move on. I do not care to see like B-Hop and Roy Jones fighting ten years past there best. Now or never.
Manny . U lost admit it. Great work Juan Manuel Marquez. U really proved urself on this 1. We won for the 3rd time and da whole world witnessed it. All u pacman fans can go back to backpack land . I can’t wait till mayweather tears him up. Deuces
In a close fight you have to finish it like it is the whole fight at stake ./,instead a big mistake.Hats off to the strong finisher.Marquez should comlain to his instructor,because he was misled.Marquez fought better than most of us dreamed,But he came up just short in a close one.
pac has looked bad for a while now…. he’s had teribble foot work and is always unable to cut the ring off…. mayweather would tko pac in the 9th or 10th easy just by landing straights on pacs face. and I never saw pacs corner rub pacs legs through out the whole fight… so I call bs on the cramps
Second time he uses the same excuse, he said that against Mosley 2
I’m not a fanatic of either boxer, but JMM clearly got PACMAN’s number and exposed the champion. However, being a challenger, JMM can not expect judges to favor him if all you do is wait for the champion to make a mistake. JMM should have gone all out and knocked the champ out. JMM was not convincingly dominating the champ. It was a really close fight and difficult to score. PACMAN on the otherhand was trying to make the fight; thus, judges tend to notice it.
were is the roids issue now that Pac cannot knockdown JMM on this last fight. i guess FMJ can convince himself that his fighting style can esily beat the Pac!
@god save the queen and everyone else: Baseed on Pac’s performance last night, I ask again: HOW DOES PAC BEAT MAYWEATHER? Just stick to the facts and stick everything else you know where.
I wonder if pacmans new long hair got cramps to as it was whipping back and forth all night long from the constant whiplash Marquez gave him.
Does anyone know if packable sang after the fight like he said he would? If he did he probably got booed off stage
Why not shut up…why most people don`t accept defeat? The cuts of Pacman was due to head-on collision not marquez punches. As a challenger you should knock him down as from their previous fight that marquez knock down by pacman. As a defender I should also be careful with my move not to be knock down…LOOOOSSSSERRRR…
I am a true boxing fan for over 30 years. I am a fan of Marquez, Pacquiao and Mayweather. I am now convinced even more that Mayweather will shut out Pacquiao in the fight. Pacquiao only looks good fighting guys with out movement. He is too one dimensional to beat a great boxer like Mayweather. Mayweather is the more highly skilled boxer plus he has better height and reach. Manny Pacquiao is a great fight too but Floyd Mayweather is even better! They will not want any part of Floyd now unfortunately.
“I was robbed, It happened again. I don’t think there is much more I can do in the ring.”–Juan Manuel Marquez
Floyd would want 60% of the money now. Considering that this fight wold probably do bad PPVs.
How do I know this? They fight started really late. They were waiting to squeeze in last minutes buys… this fight won’t do a million PPVs.
PAC VS JMM 1 ended up a draw even pac floord jmm 3x, jmm is the champ at that time.. now pac is the champ and the aggressor he won last night.
Good day sore losers. Your whining and complaining won’t work. The verdict has been rendered and final, a MAJORITY decision, meaning a clear win for Pac. Let’s move forward and see what the Floyd camp can came up with in the table.
It was Nacho’s fault that JMM lost the fight. He told Marquez to play it safe in round twelve because he thinks he was way ahead in the scorecards, big mistake.
now its time for Floyd to step on the plate, no matter what JMM do he cannot beat Manny, i just wanna ask this Pachaters now that Pac cant KO JMM does it means his not on roids?
Pactards how did floyd do against marquagain hahaez
This was a clear win for Marquez.
I had it 116 – 112 for him, maybe 115-113 but he won it.
In Australia, we get the asian commentator team of Colonel Bob Sheridan, Rich Moretti and Mario Lopez and they all had Marquez winning the fight relatively clearly.
Pacman looked slow and didn’t have anything that worried the great Mexican.
While I like Manny, I am gutted tonight.
Have to wait until May for the 4th fight now.
I would have more respect for Manny if he and more of his fans admit that he got beat! It is not shameful to admit this. There has to be a winner and a looser (or draw sometimes) . Marquez is a great fighter, one of the best, and won hands down. Some Pac fans have admitted it already but most are in denial still. They said Marquez would get knocked out easy in any round Pac choose. I mean Pac is GOD he is unbeatable they say. If I were Pac I would hold a press conference and give Marquez the belts and admit you got beat. Juan was the better fighter last night and in at one of the other two fights! Man up Pacquiao!
from what i saw…. marquez can walk away knowing he won that fight. However that being said i have to go back and watch it with the volume off in detail as i do routinely. Can make a huge difference. I dont expect to come to any other conclusion however.
Manny eats up guys who either a) come forward, or b) stand still when he attacks. It means he can hit them and move around them, his angles become very effective and it is easy to create angles. When somebody doesn’t do this and instead moves laterally or backwards, it forces you to move forward. This is what both Mosley and Marquez did. Then when you go forward, and they step to the side or backwards, you cannot find an angle. As they are instantly square to you again. I think this and this alone explains why Manny could not use angles and didn’t look as good. Unfortunately, Mosley couldn’t pull the trigger.
Marquez won both the other fights, you will definately think he won this one. It was the most one-sided of the lot.
manny is the real winner i give him round 1,3,4,6,9,10,11,12…clearly hes also the aggressor, jmm always waiting , a challenger must attack always…stop complaining jmm fans respect the judges…..accept the defeat.
Oh .. at the end of the day, who won? records will ALWYAS be there … so STFU ….
SORE LOSERS …. we will still watch Pacquiao fights until the end …
BTW … I AM AMERICAN so don’t use the racial thing …
What did I say all last week? Just watch the fight! Look at Pacs face after that or ANY Marquez fight! Now go back to you tube and watch how easy I beat Marquez! Look at my face and compare to the ped man. When is the last time you saw any one in any fight do that to me? Marquez was just a tune up fight for me! Pac can not even beat a38 year old man with the aid of a catch weight!
Can you all say Pacquiao exposed? 
Who id p4p the greatest fighter on the planet? Yours truly of course!
On May 5th I will show how easy it is to beat Pacquaio! I am not one of them Toprank paid to loose punching bags! I will make you miss and make you pay. I will knock Pacquiao tfo!
Marquez = the people’s champ. 3-0. Don’t retire Dinimita. You are, and were today, the superior boxer and technician. You gave Manny a boxing lesson for the ages. Next time, Manny shouldn’t wear boxing gloves, but a pen in one hand, and a notepad on the other, so he can take notes.
please dont start the manny is old talk. Marquez is about to turn 39 manny is 32 years old. He just finally faced someone who had movement and could counter . He faces floyd he will get destroyed but the way he was talking after this fight he wants no part of floyd. Only reason he faced marquez he thought marquez was done and would be too small he did not see marquez coming into the fight at 150 pounds.
They think that we’re stupid and we are if we buy the fight that decided this fight. Let’s all get together and try to save boxing from the clutches of businessmen and hit them where it hurts, the WALLET. Do NOT buy Pacquiao vs Mayweather. We are not stupid! Are we?
Now you all know how he really fights when he is on the JUICE.
im a manny fan always have and always will be. but last night marquez won that fight a draw would be unfair.manny was not at the fight marquez studied manny and learned from his previous fights. and arum from top rank talking about money after the fight added insult to boxing and showed the sport up for what it is now. joe frazier will be turning in his grave with what the sport has become lately.as a true boing fan and a manny fan i know this is not right.
Simply put.. He (Manny) lost and the look on his face is the evidence.
I saw the fight and in my humble opinion, and to be as objective as possible, the judge who scored the fight a draw, did it correctly. Pacman did not win neither did Marquez. They both gave as much as they took. They have now fought 36 rounds and neither fighter came out with a defining win. Pacman was, based on the survey, supposed to destroy Marquez and better fm. But it did not happen. It looks like JM has Pacman # just like Veron forrest had SSM #. What has Pacman performance done to make a future fw fight a mouthwatering must see. I will tell you, Pacman should avoid FW at all cost and honestly retire and pursue his political ambitions or else he will get so badly humilated it will be sad. He has had a great boxing career, a good human being, but it is time for Pacman to pack it in. The sun is setting on his boxing career and he should go out on top. He came from humble beginings and has risen to the top and now he should gracefully give his last bow and leave the building.
Damn rip the man off again,you can tell who won the fight by the way the fighters react at the end.Marquez put his hands up like he won,Manny just walked to his corner with his head down like he knew he lost.And forget how the fighters react,i know what my eyes saw,amd JMM won the fight.
The fight was close and you can score in any side. I don’t tink paquiao is done or the age is afectim him. I believe marquez have the perfect stile to complicate paquiao live. We saw that clear. Now maywether want fight paquiao because he lock bad last night. Is funy that maywether figth boxer only when he see weakness. And then he proclame be the # 1. But I still belive paquiao van bet floyd.
If some people said Pacquiao is over hyped, He can fight anybody now. Good for him, He will not run out of opponents. I continue buying his fight until he retires.
@thomas…
don’t even think you can reverse-psyco’ed a Filipino. their smarter than that… and stop looking stupid.
Marquez won that fight. It’s unfortunate and a disgrace to rob him the third time. Pacquiao knows in his heart he got beat.
@larry. i totally agree with you, true fans know marquez won. i too was a pacquiao fan till last night. totally shocking night and devastating for the sport witch is already collapsing due things like last night. hopkins/dawson was a farce so was mayweather/ortiz and now this.
It’s “Foot Cramps” in Asia. In Europe they call it “Sore Toe”. In america they call it PEDS. And they scare off some. Did you know that?
Pacquiao is full of excuses even with leg cramps he should beat Marquez bad it already says for it self Pacquiao can’t fight vs technical counterpunchers which means he can’t even beat TIMOTHY BRADLEY
yeah foot cramps,after the mosley fight it was legs cramps and after the morales fight it was blood weakens me. get real pac man .mayweather would destroy you
losers! hahahahah..
Haye told paq to say his foot hurt
Lots of people saying “look at compubox” what you think Arum and CO cannot tinker with the compubox? do you remember the big big ripp off with chavez jr where compubox had him landing 50% more punches? which was totally BS!!!!
Really no point in arguing, manny fans eventually will repeat to themselves manny won until they actually believe.
Manny??? The Aggressor? Where? JMM was stepping in the whole night, preventing manny from getting in reach distance!!! Really i hate manny fans!!!
If your a true boxing fan like myself you know Marquez won the fight. I was a Pacman fan until last night! Pac you should do the right thing and give Marquez his do. And to hurtbutt your a idiot.
to Filipinos, out there, you get so proud when Pacquio wins before why can’t you offer full support to his win with marques now. such a hypocrite!!let’s just be happy for him and hope there will be rematch.
MARQUEZ WAS ROBBED!!!!!ROBBED I SAY….ROBBED!!!!
If you don’t think Arum had the judges on highlight to ensure Pacquiao got the win no matter what, you are fooling yourselves…Too much money on the line for May 5th!!!
I want to be the first to say this!!!!
MANNY PACQUIAO WILL NOT SEE ROUND #12 VS. FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. FMJ WILL NOT LEAVE IT IN THE JUDGES HANDS TO DECIDE…
EASY WORK FOR FMJ…EASY WORK!!!!!
The cramps were real. You overheard Buboy asking Pacquiao “How’s your (tiil)foot now”) on 6 round break. Maybe if Marquez was not too cautious on the 12th round, he could have won the fight.
He was too confident when his camp told him he has the edge.
I’m tired of Pac/Marquez fights, I want Mayweather next or I never buy another PPV fight again.
don’t bring shame to the filipino people, you would be the greatest boxer and filipino’ if you admit you lost, be the MAN brod, return the belt!
mayweather is next
EL BOXEO SORPRENDE A LAS GENTES,POR LOS JUECES..LA MANERA
QUE ELLOS VEN LA PELEA HACEN QUE LOS QUE PAGAN PARA VER LA PELEA SE DESANIME.. YO ESPECIALMENTE YA NO VEO BOXEO Y ME ENCANTABA,DESDE EL 1960 ESO ERA LO MIO,NO ME PERDIA UNA PELEA
ES UN DEPORTE DURO,YO BOXEABA PERO NO PROFECIONAL,AHORA BOXEO CON EL DIABLO POR QUE ME CONVERTI AL SEÑOR Y DESDE ENTONCES ME DEDICO A PREDICAR LA PALABRA DE DIOS.. AUNQUE NO VI LA PELEA ME DEJO LLEVAR POR LOS COMENTARIOS, Y ES TRISTE..
PERO LE DIGO A TODOS LOS FANATICOS QUE SIGAN HACIA ADELANTE..
LOS QUIERO MUCHO.. PASTOR: WILLIAM NELSON LOPEZ
be the gentleman manny, admit you lost
no excuses manny, be the first man to admit you los, you know it. don’t breing shame to the filipino people. be the man and admit you lost. i’m pinoy
I guess Manny Pacquiao says that counter punchers can’t not win decisions. What is he talking about?
Can’t believe how thick American people actually are.
watch the replay.. pac is the clear winner… you had focused on how marquez hit manny… look at the punches landed and marquez face..
if you admit you lost you will be the winner and the greatest filipino there is.
check this out in youtube:
Pacquiao vs Marquez 3 Fight Highlights: Pacquiao beats Marquez, pacriods vs floydiots next!!!!!!!
and you will know who landed more shots
manny admit it, jmm was the winner, no excuses. your my idol but you lost! admit it, be the man to admit you lost.
You can still make the argument that JMM has only lost one fight, to Floyd [Mayweather].
“Pacquiao you’re next”
Just like I beat Marquez, I will expose Pacquiao for the fraud that he is.
You all saw it last night!
May 5th, come get some of this.
If you think Juan gave you an a.s.s. whopping you have not seen nothing yet!
You did not see any of team Pacquiao begging to fight me last night did you?
I am p4p the best in boxing.
If Manny can’t beat Juan he has zero chance to beat me!
let us accept it…marquez did his best but it was not enough…the fight is so close that the judges were left with no choice but to give it to the defending champion..that’s basic in boxing…marquez must have shown more than being very technical…you do not win championship just waiting….DOMINATE THE RING….
i’m filipino and i’m for manny, but clearly jmm won! if i were manny p, i would accept the defeat so he would be more honorable. jmm won without a doubt!
Theoretically Pacquiao has lost his last 3 fights but in each case he was given the decision by the officials because he is …..Manny Pacquiao. Someone will have to stop him or KO him in order to
get a win and that is hardly likely to happen.
JMM connected the clean shots. Pacquiao did not connect many clean shots…
I mean Pacquiao was being boo at the end of the fight and the decision was boo badly by the fans.
Enough with the whining just admit that JMM humiliated you and exposed you like never before . JMM deserves that wining of fight not a stupid remach .
I thought Manny said that is going to leave no doubt hahahahah. I guess he left many doubt about him being a P4P .JMM exposed him and hurt him .
Manny was gifted the fight
Pacquiao was ineffective. Every time they show the replays he was missing while JMM was countering him. JMM won the fight.
Whenever Pacquiao hit JMM he was off balance.
how easy is it to become a judge? Seen more than one controversial decision this year but this is the biggest stage of all, i’m gutted for Marquez he made Manny look old and tired and beat him good. Let’s have round results after the bell or something even old skool 7-5 to marquez cuz that’s what it was. There’s too many points on off.
Pacquiao won the fight! From rounds 9 to 12 Marquez threw fewer punches than Pacquiao, waiting too much to counterpunch. 7 rounds to 5 for Pacquiao.
for once i agree with you williams
Pacquiao lost that fight period. The world saw how Marquez was all guts in the fight. Not the slightest sign of fear. It’s a pity the Mayweathers weren’t there even just to watch the fight. I’m sure they didn’t have the balls for it. That’s not my problem anyway.
i love manny,but he got beat fair and square,he knew it,you could see,all he did was follow and get hit.Decisions like this are destroying boxing,i have been a boxing fan for 35years and am very dissappointed,another sad day for boxing
((((((
Pacquiao was involved in fixed fights. Marquez can’t be bought, there is too much prime in that guy.
floyd dismantled and manraped Marquez winning every round and humiliating the undergunned marquez. Paq never fights floyd.
after the fight i thought marquez won, but when i watched the replay, it was very clear, paqiao outboxed marquez from the 9th to the 12 round. it was only in the middle rounds 6th to 8th that marquez won.
Pacquaio now blames his bad performances to leg cramps….this is the third time he does that…
Maybe Pacquiao forgot to take his power pellets.
Thats a damn shame how many times is BOB ARUM gone rob Marquez
The crowd Booing, Freddy Roach lieing an shaking at the same time
Pacmans JUICE wore off in the 2nd round ( gotta see dope man his sh&t
weak) An Marquez cant belive what happend AGAIN …ARUM ROBBED
HIM AGAIN, IT WONT WORK AGAINST FLOYD, THE MONEY TEAM WON’T
LET U STACK THE JUDGES BOX AGAINST FLOYD, LAST NIGHT FLOYD WOULD
HAVE KNOCKED PACMAN OUT,
I´m sorry to you ODHL. That remarks supposed to be adressed to “unknown”.
@ ODHL
If you´re truly filipino, you shoulkd be ashamed to your kind. Pacquiao did his best and u should be proud of it.
@unknown
i am from the phillipines and i am dishusted with manny he was appauling he has brought shame on his people.
sure really you’re from the “phillipines” not from the philippines nice try dude!
Pacquiao vs Marquez 3 Fight Highlights: Pacquiao beats Marquez, pacriods vs floydiots next!!!!!!!
I said this yesterday that pacman can’t handle counter punchers and it came true yesterday if JMM could make pacman look so ordinary what would PBF do to him and PBF made JMM look ordinary and beat him every round with a round 2 knockdown.
boxing just became a joke. been a pac fan for years but bob just ended that. i gave pac 4 rounds at best.
When many people say that Pacquiao isnt a true champ,all his fans dont want to believe to that.I already said,Pacquiao isnt a true pound for pound,cause he often fights,opponents who come from bad bad loss,or by catchweigh,or opponents who dont move.Among all his last 7 opponents,it’s only Marquez who was skilled,he showed it once again this morning.
What happened this morning is a good thing,to show Arum that this time if he refuses the Mayweather fight,it’s over for Pac’s career
Who will buy the Pacquiao’s ppv fight with an unkwown fighter?
The next for Pac is Mayweather or nothing.Mayweather will outboxe
Pacquiao all night,maybe stop him.
Look it wasnt even close. Hbo lick pacmans arse, they never said anything everytime marquez connected. I watched it on primetime and like myself all the commentators had it 117-111 in marquez’s favour. Even roach was saying to manny come on your behind
I was out with friends and did not see the fight yet. It sounds like it went just how I said it would yesterday! I said on here that Pac would win a close decision. It sounds more like he got robbed looking at all the stories. I was at the first fight and I thought the that fight could have gone either way. Manny had the knock downs but Marquez the better boxer winning rounds. If you watch the second fight with out being a hater or a fanboy as I have, I saw Marquez winning fairly easy in the 2nd fight. Of course I am not saying the fight itself was easy just to me it was clear the Juan won that fight. The truth in boxing is that when you fight a big star such as Pacquiao you have to beat him even more so than normal! Juan would have to ko him or win 10 or 11 rounds. If Juan was fighting a no name fighter he would have won by a large margin.
respect the judges…pacman won it…marquez cannot KO pacman thats the reason he still remain as loser…
@marquez won both fights??????? Wont have to worry about judges. If that fight happens manny will not last the 12 rounds…… By the way manny was speaking he wants no part of that fight.
i am from the phillipines and i am dishusted with manny he was appauling he has brought shame on his people
when tyson fought douglas… tyson is the favoured one.. but what’s the outcome? who would think that douglas would put tyson to canvas that night
Make that three! One more Top Rank decision in the books. If I was a Pacqiuao fan I would hold my head in shame. He is a joke to the sport.
There is no doubt who would win a Floyd Manny fight. Wait I though Marquez was going to get knocked out in the first round? When Floyd beats Manny in every single round I hope Bob’s judges are not working that night.
is this gona be the new thing manny making excuses when ever he looks bad. Got booooed like i have never seen before. Manny can not handle movement. Proven once again. And this is the so called man to beat floyd????? If it happens look for the odds not to be close. By the way he was talking after the fight he wants no part of the money man
WHATEVER YOU SAY AND JOW MANY ARTICLES YOU WRITE CHRIS WILLIAMS, YOU WILL NEVER BE OF THE SAME LEVEL OF THE JUDGES WHO JUDGED THAT FIGHT. THEY ARE EXPERTS IN WHAT THEY DO, AND YOUR OPINION DOESNT MATTER IN THE OUTCOME OF THE FIGHT. SO STOP ALL THESE “HATE” ARTICLES AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE ALREADY. SURE, IT WAS A BAD JUDGEMENT AND I MYSELF (A PAC FAN) ADMIT THAT HE LOST THE FIGHT, BUT I DONT WRITE LOPSIDED AND HATE ARTICLES LIKE THESE. YOU ARE A MAD BOY, CHRIS WILLIAMS. YOU ARE JUST OUT OF CONTROL.
ITS PACQUIAO FOR ROUND 1,2,3,5 ,11 AND 12… THE REST IS UP TO YOU..BUT I DONT AGREE WITH GLEN THROWBRIDGE SCORES 116-112 IN FAVOR OF PACQUIAO THATS UNFAIR FOR MARQUEZ THE MARGIN IS TOO BIG!!!
Pac won on paper. Well, he is the paper P4P anyways, so it fits.
JMM will never learn his lesson. LOL. He should come in accepting that the only way he can beat PAc is by KO, and that won’t happen.
I believe the foot cramps came from wearing tight socks.
lmao.
We the whole family are sad, very sad. Pac’s performance against JMM in I and II were better. We are Filipinos and huge huge Pacquiao fan, but I think he lost this 3rd fight. Sorry, Philippines, it is good to be honest. We still love Manny tho. Still avid fans. Salute to Marquez.
manny and freddie roach were exposed by JMM and nacho who had prepared properly had the perfect fightplan and in my view and many others defeated pac man once again .. there will be a clamour for part 4 but i think manny may retire for political career
i watched the fight twice and i had JMM by 3 points
i must also say king khan was good as an analyst he is in pacmans gym and he like most others called it for JMM
HahahahahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA we saw last night what is REAL boxing fans have known for ages MANNY IS A FRAUD!! cherry pick and co
Thought this was the perfect time to whitewash jmm in oldage but they came up short lol all you PAC fans out there stay in your little deluded bubble which may weather will SMASH when they fight and he makes PAC look like a 10 year old little boy like he did last night!!!! Goodnight Freddie, arum , and the cash cow manny the fraud pacquiao!!!
Floyd can fight the real winner marquez
If you all think that is an excuse, wait to hear Floyds excuse for not fighting Manny on may 5th
You dum Bums
i thought that Pacmaker had broken toe
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now i really think mayweather will accept to fight pacman coz pacman was exposed by jmm
pacquiao clearly won, well im afraid everybody who saw the fight in person at the mgm grand who booed pacquiao out of the arena would disagree with you about that.
I watched the fight again on replay! i’ts a close fight but since pac is the champ and the aggressor. he won the majority decision.
Pacquiao won clearly though Marquez did a good job. The point is if you want to be a champion winner you should come to fight first. How can you give a score to a guy who was waiting most of the time in the fight? Pacquiao was the aggressive one so no Robbed, no controversial , no bla bla happened.
Marquez had a great showing, but like the last fight … Manny just did a better job to win.
If Marquez wants to win, he needs to attack Manny and get a KO.
But if Marquez opens up to attack, Manny will get his clean shots to KO Marquez.
Marquez cant win with his current style of fighting … fighting to survive will not take the championship away from the MANNY.
How funny that all Marquez fans suddenly all became boxing analyst and judges. Let the fight result be. How can 3 different judges for this fight see it for Manny…one judge having it as a draw. The previous fight was also for Manny’s side. How can 6 judges be wrong. Just accept the result and move on!! I use to have so much respect for JMM, but after this fight, he’s nothing but a cry baby. Emanuel Steward said it all after the fight “Manny is the champ, and JMM didn’t take it from Manny. JMM Fought defensively. If you want to be the champ, you’ve got to fight to take it and JMM did not do that.” So for all you JMM fans…sure let’s do another 4th fight…then a 5th fight, and a 6th fight…let JMM keep fighting Manny until he gets a win, a pathetic win…just so you JMM fans can all claim that JMM finally won. What a pathetic bunch of losers all of you JMM fans. Just like your idol JMM…all f***ing cry babies. Leave the judging for the judges.
stop crying like a baby marquez…… pacquiao won that’s it!!!!!!!
david haye springs to mind
This is what I hate about boxing nowadays. Pacquiao fans think that the only way for Marquez to win is only by KO. It is true that Pacquiao is a golden cow, but you can’t put aside the fact that Pacquiao was outboxed tonight. Marquez was wise enough when he said “it is ok for me to fight one guy inside the ring, but difficult as hell to win against 4 guys”. Sorry but Marquez won, say whatever you want in Pacman favour {I respect Pacman a lot and I think that for sure he is one of the best 4p4) but tonight, the one who got robbed, and the one who can go to sleep with a big smile is Marquez. That is why Pac will never fight Mayweather.
I tried to tell u all that Marquez would lose a CLOSE CONTROVERSIAL decision. I AM PROUD OF MARQUEZ @ 38 beating the p4p king.
thats why everbody who saw the fight in person were booing manny because he lost, but they are all incorrect right. no, the public decided who the real winner is and it wasn’t pacquiao.
manny is the real loser in this fight, he might retire, I wouldn’t be surprised.
Now lets see those who have scream out loud calling Floyd out to fight Pacman continue to scream out again!! I just hope they will not keep quiet… cose Mayweather has sent a clear signal to fight him on 5th May 2012… its up to Manny now
COMPUBOX shows that Pacman connects more hard shots than JMM. I’m confused why JMM still crying like a kid who lost his candy.
Excuse or not …. Manny still won and Marquez lost.
Isn’t it a perfect time for your boy floyd to fight Manny?
pac lost by 6 rounds, the fans reaction said it all. dont look good for boxing.
sure manny that is your pathetic excuse, you lost big time manny, you are no longer perceived as invincible and your legacy as a fighter has been tarnished. Marquez made you look like an amateur. it was funny to watch you get beat down manny.
ha ha. ha. CHRIS DOES NOT WANT TO STOP CRYING GIVE HIM A LOLLI….hahahaha.
Marquez had a chance … the he failed to continue to in the 12th round. Manny kept working until the end … and won!!!
I do hope there is a rematch.
manny won.. judges decided it,
end of story,,
manny won the first 2 also, but on paper it will be remembered 1 draw and 2 wins,
enough said,,
@hurtbutt let them cry to express their emotions. they are actually all sourgraping. please be kind bwahahahaha……..it is in this way they can shed their loss. hahahahaha……
stop crying about losing. Pacquiao won fair and square. Sore losers.