Marquez robbed! Pacquiao wins very controversial decision
November 12th, 2011
By Chris Williams: In a fight outcome that left virtually no one happy other than Pacquiao fans, WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao (54-3-2, 38 KO’s) labored to a controversial 12 round majority decision on Saturday night against 38-year-old Juan Manuel Marquez (53-6-1, 39 KO’s) at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada. The final judges’ scores were all over the place with one scoring it a draw at 114-114 but the other two giving the decision to Pacquiao by the scores of 115-113, 116-112.
This was the third straight time against Marquez that Pacquiao has either gotten a draw or win in fights where Marquez appeared to win. It’s so sad. After tonight’s fight, Marquez left the ring without complaint and without giving an interview. He was truly a class individual by leaving without bad mouthing Pacquiao. He didn’t need to. The fans at ringside were booing like mad, many of them seemingly Filipino fans of Pacquiao, who weren’t happy seeing Pacquiao win a fight that Marquez did more than enough to get the win.
If you’re into monitoring punch stats it’s interesting to note that Pacquiao landed slightly more shots at 176 of 578 compared to Marquez’s 138 of 436. However, many of Pacquiao’s punches landed came in the last three rounds when he appeared to be far behind in the fight needing a knockout to win. He landed a lot of shots in those rounds but was totally dominated in rounds one through eight. I didn’t give Pacquiao a round until the 9th. He was getting drilled over and over again by left hooks, right hands and jabs from Marquez and seemed totally clueless what to do.
In other fights on the card:
Jose Benavidez Jr. UD 6 Samuel Santana
Dennis Laurente TKO 7 Ayi Bruce
Juan Carlos Burgos MD 10 Luis Cruz
Mike Alvarado TKO 10 Breidis Prescott
Timothy Bradley TKO 8 Joel Casamayor
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the only thing clear to me is that marquez new health & and conditioning coach was a big factor because marquez was alot bigger and stronger. marquez was fighting at the same catch weight as the mayweather fight but looked much more muscular..just look at both fights it’s obvious . why all of a sudden get a health and conditioning coach who has a record for giving the people he was training performance enhancing drugs….pacman won..it was clear and the judges see the whole picture.
ha ha ha marquez, i like your style i saw manytimes when i watch your fight with Pacman 3, from Round 4- 12, your feet also manytimes beats Pacman feet,,, your a good figther style ha ha ha u LOL
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who was bleeding?
All u haters the pacman won get over it all your crying is not going to change things next time marquez he’ll know that when you fight a champion you better bring it on and not leave any questions on who may have won the fight if u want to take something from me u need to knock me out take it off and run same thing in the ring
i feel pity to this guy (JMM) he’s trying to convince himself that he defeated pacquiao in all of their fight… JMM you should face the truth… u dont even win to pacquiao and even knock him down… PACMAN is your greatest frustration….
it is so obvios marquez won it is disgusting, yea pacquiao throw a lot of punches, so many inacurate punches, im not even a big fan of boxing …..they just want the fight with floyd as a champ, after that marquez will win if the ever fight again.
it is so obvios marquez won it is disgusting, yea pacquiao throw a lot of punches, so many inacurate punches, im not even a big fan of boxing …..they just want the fight with floyd as a champ, after that marquez will win if the ever fight again
CRITERIA FOR JUDGES IN SCORING FIGHTS ON A 10-POINT MUST SYSTEM IS BROKEN DOWN AS FOLLOWS:
25% Effective Aggressiveness
25% Ring Generalship
25% Clean Punching
25% Defense
Lemme break it down so you clueless maytards can wake up and smell the juice:
Effective Aggressiveness, as defined by the A s s o c i a t i o n of Boxing Commissions, means “when a fighter presses forward and in doing so, scores more punches” are given more scoring weight. Last I checked Pac was the more aggressive fighter and that he landed more punches as a result of being more aggressive and initiating the action. CHECK – Pacquiao.
Ring Generalship – “the ability to control the pace and style of the fight”. Obviously, Pac was the one who pressed the action the ENTIRE FIGHT. If Pac had not thrown punches, JMM would have been content to sit back. There were several moments when Pac d e m o n s t r a t e d his in and out & side to side movement in order to open up punching angles. All JMM did was move backward and counter everything Pac threw. CHECK – Pacquiao.
Clean Punching – “A clean punch is one that lands on a scoring area (face or side of head, not including the back of the head; the front and sides of the torso) with the k n u c k l e portion of the glove.” Marquez did land some clean punches. But it wasn’t enough because Pac threw more and thus landed more. Watch the fight IN SLOW MOTION and you’ll see what I’m talkin about. All of the ignorant ones who claim Pac lost simply think that JMM landed more effective shots because of the reaction of the crowd every time JMM landed a punch. On the other hand, when Pac landed a punch, half the time people didn’t see it because it was too fast. But JMM’s FACE TELLS THE STORY as well as punchstats. CHECK: Pacquiao.
Defense – “is the ability to avoid punishment.” Pac landed more and thus received less punishment. Punch accuracy was virtually even but since JMM threw and landed less it means Pac was able to “defend” himself better. Just compare the two faces at the end of the fight. That tells the story. CHECK – Pacquiao.
WAKE UP MAYTARDS. These are FACTS.
gee is filipino le meto el pino
robbed marquez for third time
Had to watch it twice…calling it a draw now…though manny one by 2-3 rounds the first time i saw it. Its pretty clear what Floyd would do to manny now guys…C’mon already…he gets out boxed…Floyd would hurt him.
According to CompuBox, Pacquiao officially threw more shots (578) than Marquez (435). Pacquiao edged Marquez in power punches, connecting on 117 of 274 attempts or 43%, while Marquez connected on 100 of 254 power punches thrown or 39%. Per round, Pacquiao threw 49 punches and landed 14, while Marquez threw 36 punches and landed 11
Robbed???? ha ha…what a joke!
The same goes for Ortiz-Mayweather fight.
Mayweather robbed the Fans of a good fight
when he Getto sukker punched Ortiz!
Marquez was not robbed! The Fans was was robbed
by the Pacquiao Team. They promised us a knockout.
They did not deliver.
Lets have an immediate rematch…
FYI – I counted punches before looking at Compu Box… Seemed pretty accurate to me.
I don’t see how Marquez got “robbed” in this fight. It FELT like Marquez won the fight because he did more damage and was a heavy underdog, but there’s no way that Marquez won that fight clearly. At BEST, Marquez won the fight by 115-113. The judge who scored the fight 116-112 for Pacquiao was on crack lol.
I watched the fight twice; scored it as a draw the first time, and scored it 115-113 Pacquiao the second time:
R1: 10-9 Pacquiao
This was a clear round. Marquez didn’t do anything. Pacquiao was the aggressor and landed more punches.
R2: 10-9 Marquez
Close round. Both were landing punches, but Marquez landed a few more power punches.
R3: 10-9 Pacquiao
Clear round. Pacquiao was blocking punches all round, and landed his own powershots.
R4: 10-9 Pacquiao
Another clear round. Pacquiao dominated the first 2 minutes of the round. Only thing going for Marquez was his one good punch at the end of the round.
R5: 10-9 Marquez
Clear round for Marquez. He destroyed Pacquiao and only got hit with light jabs.
R6: 10-9 Pacquiao
Clear round for Pacquiao. He dominated the first 2 minutes of the round, when Marquez only landed a few bodyshots. The last minute of the round was more even.
R7: 10-9 Marquez
Clear round for Marquez. He was landing powershots with ease, and countering Pacquiao the whole round. Pacquiao only started landing punches in the last 30 seconds.
R8: 10-9 Marquez
Another clear round for Marquez. Landed powershots and countered throughout the round.
R9: 10-9 Marquez
Close round. Both fighters landed a similar number of punches. Marquez was more effective and did more damage.
R10: 10-9 Pacquiao
Very close round. I had Pacquiao winning the round in the last 10 seconds. The only good combination that Marquez landed was during the accidental headbutt. If we ignore the headbutt, then the round MIGHT go to Marquez.
R11: 10-9 Pacquiao
Closest round in the fight. Pacquiao dominated the first minute, and Marquez dominated the second minute. Pacquiao landed more effective punches, but Marquez did more damage. Gave this round to Pacquiao for being the aggressor and landing more punches.
R12: 10-9 Pacquiao
Clear round for Pacquiao here. Close for the first 2 minutes, but Marquez was running the entire last minute of the fight.
Total: 115-113 Pacquiao
I would give Marquez a 115-113 win only if we ignored the accidental headbutt in Round 10, and gave him Round 11 (even though he landed less effective punches).
I’m happy with the majority decision. It was a damn close fight, but there’s NO way it was a robbery lol. I’m not a fan of Floyd, but if Pacquiao fights Mayweather, Pac’s going to get destroyed. If he’s having trouble landing against Marquez and getting countered that many times, he’s not going to be able to touch Mayweather.
If Marquez didn’t win then it should’ve been a draw. I thought marquez won.
Robbery!!!!!!! And who the hell was doing the punch count??? Everybody was in on it, fro
The commentators to the judges!! Manny knew he lost, it was all in his face at the end… It was very WWF ish..
if its not the number then what?
so Marquez land clear shots but got the swollen face.
So he won by back pedaling, and as how I see it Manny did not even flinch on Marquez’s body shots.
And if you look who was beaten badly by stronger punches, then that’s Marquez. don’t tell me you didn’t see his face after the fight?
Mayweather need not worry he will destroy pacman!!! I’m a mayweather fan but i never really had an issue with pac till now. Marquez ROBBED boxing is robbed the fans are robbed!
Don’t give me that “NUMBER’S DON’T LIE THING” it is very subjective if its football or basketball yeah numbers and statistics will tell you all but boxing.. Man I told you it is not applicable and it will always stay subjective…what they’re showing us in video highlights were only to conditioned our minds that indeed Pacquiao won, this they do to promote the biggest fight (Mayweather-Pacman fight) and you know the reason why.
Pacman can’t even throw combination in which he was very succesful on all his foes but with Marquez Nahh..he exposed himself on the third match. Floyd is smiling right now since he knows already that he can destroy him that is the truth of the matter.
MARQUEZ WON!! He gaved manny a great boxing lesson he will take to his grave manny knows it he lost
Marquez won clear and was robbed big how can people say well his ignorant fans say that manny won when in no round he got Marquez with big punches he actually had problems couldn’t even hit Marquez with a right or left Marquez was working that hook jabs and rights all night long MARQUEZ WAS ROBBED BIG freddy knows mannh Lost marquez made manny look badddd
there was tons of Mexicans in the venue that’s why he got booed.
haven’t you heard it during the singing of Mexico national anthem? could be 50% or more were singing!
Marquez lost, get over it!
I love Marquez, but not anymore when he once again claimed he got robbed. what’s wrong with you?
Compu box was dead wrong most the shots that look like they landed were missed replays show that marquez eazily landed 2wce as many! Totally out boxed him I was shocked, I had to watch it again after people on here saying it was close, the second time it looked even more one sided. We had an American and Kahn commentating over here they were very pro paquiao and by the seventh couldn’t get over how he was being dominated. When the scores come in he said “well I’ll read it to you if you’ll believe it ” then read those scores. It kills boxing. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a crowd so large stay to boo and chant the “loosers” name! Bravo to those fans of boxing refusing to let money kill our sport!
If Pacquiao and his team has honor, they would recognize that Marquez is the real Champ, but It wont happen, because money is the real king.
Until yesterday I was a Pac-Man fan, but now I hate him. His a fake as good as the freaking Fredy Rouch.
They make me sick.
I like Marquez, but to see him once again claiming he was robbed is terrible.
He’s a disgrace to the sport.
“Hears the thing” let me explain to you why this fight shows that Mayweather will beat the brakes off of Manny. First off, I already felt this way prior to this fight. Ok, Manny does not fight well against a counter punching style. Yes Manny beat Hatton, easier than floyd did, but what style did Hatton use? Styles make fights my man. And the tatics used against Pacman last night are the tatics he can expect against Mayweather, only bigger, better, faster, and stronger with far superior defense. Floyld fought Oscar @ 154 so lets not even compare that fight to the drained 147 Oscar. Roach has already gone on record after the fight last night and said “Floyd will give us problems, we have to learn how to deal with counter punchers.” Not word for word, but pretty much the way I remember it. Google it for yourself. So even his trainer believes this fight gives insight as to what will happen if he fights Mayweather. He has to learn how to deal with counter punchers? really? Isn’t he supposed to be the best fighter in the world? Lol. Is he going to learn this on the job in the ring against Mayweather? I doubt that very much, and I doubt you see Pacman in the ring with Mayweather as a result of this fight, not in his next fight. Mayweather went on record BEFORE the fight and said he will fight him win lose or draw against Marquez.
MARQUEZ won the fight hands-down, WHAT A SHAME for boxing values !
It was a close fight and it could have gone either way. I actually had it 7-5 for Pacquiao
Pacfans remember what did i told you guys ? Marquez was gonna teach pacquiao another boxing lesson ,and indeed thats what happen. another ‘Gift’ Decision for Pacquiao. Bob is the mobster here by paying the 3 American judges,and the HBO announcers. Marquez won it! and he got robbed by the 3rd time. More shame to the USA really bad ruling.
if you are sure that JMM won last night
check the video on this site ” click Boxing video at the top”
Pacquiao vs Marquez 3 Fight Highlights: Pacquiao beats Marquez, pacriods vs floydiots next!!!!!!!
“people lie numbers don’t” clear as a crystal who won the fight!
Let’s put it this way if Marquez won (which he did IMHO) there will never be a Mayweather-Pacman fight. Boxing world’s motivation is all about money so judges decision have been corrupted because of this.
MARQUEZ-PACQUIAO = PACQUIAO
MAYWEATHER-MARQUEZ = MAYWEATHER
If:
MARQUEZ-PACQUIAO 3 = MARQUEZ
it would clearly tell that:
PACQUIAO-MAYWEATHER = is no longer necessary.
THAT MEANS NO SUPER FIGHT AND NO RICH MATCHUP DEAL OF THIS CENTURY.
check this video on youtube!!!
Pacquiao vs Marquez 3 Fight Highlights: Pacquiao beats Marquez, pacriods vs floydiots next!!!!!!!
as Floyd fans always saying “people lie but numbers don’t lie”
Always contraversy in a big close fight.Two fighters with fans and followers.
Their both great Champs and I’m a huge fan of BOTH, but there is no way Manny won this fight. Sorry, but the truth is the truth. Have to face it whether you want to or not. Otherwise you’re just a fanboy instead of a true Boxing fan.
Pacman doesnt deserve a shot at mayweather after that performance, if anybody should fight mayweather next its marquez! He clearly lost an if marquez can do that to pacman then mayweather will destroy him
If Pacquiao knocked him out, it would’ve been Marquez got caught, if Marquez won by KO it would’ve been he was the superior, if Marquez won on points its Pacquiao didn’t take his PED’s or finally got found out as a fraud, Pacquiao wins by points and now its daylight robbery poor guy can’t win no matter what he does.
people must either be blind or stupd to claim this fight was close. it was a total landslide and bob arum should be arrested for match fixing, this is a crime!
what if maquez is the champion? pacquiao did not do enough to win?
i really cant believed anyone can even claim in jest that pac won. pac got EXPOSED by a 38 year old legend who should go down as the most ripped off fighter in history. MAYWEATHER IS THE P4P #1
I can’t believe Pac fanatics still think he stands a chance against Floyd. I like Pac but you guys are in serious denial.
Aint no need to lie Marquez DOMINATED pacman all night, the crowd
BOOING the out come Bob Arum stacked the judges box with his own
people an Freddy Roach lieing an shaking, MARQUEZ WON THAT FIGHT
an UNLESS ITS A FLOYD FIGHT I WILL NEVER BUY A PPV AGAIN
@jay-k
YEAH RIGHT!!!!
How long have you Been into boxing?
“Have you ever thought that maybe manny didn’t want to ko jmm because if he did there would no way be a mayweather fight? Now may might find PAC to not be as hard as a fight. Or is manny playing possum so mayweather takes the fight and the real manny comes out to play”
Nate:
No, I haven’t thought that because I don’t do stupid thinking! He was trying desperatly to win but got clean-punched all night and looked out of sorts.
BTW, isn’t it Pacquiao who is refusing to get tested for the fight? Why would he intensionally let himself get beat in order to get a fight with Floyd? WOW, some thinking!
Marquez won that fight. Manny exposed!!! by 38th year old Marquez!!!
Lots of people saying “look at compubox” what you think Arum and CO cannot tinker with the compubox? do you remember the big big ripp off with chavez jr where compubox had him landing 50% more punches? which was totally BS!!!!
Really no point in arguing, manny fans eventually will repeat to themselves manny won until they actually believe.
Manny??? The Aggressor? Where? JMM was stepping in the whole night, preventing manny from getting in reach distance!!! Really i hate manny fans!!!
Warquez 3 fraudquiao 0. no more rematch marquez let him live with that on his mind, i told you guys paquiao was slowing down. Warquez is your master and mentor now lol.
It was a disgrace this decision. Pacquiao have lost the fight and he knew it. Everybody knew it, Roach, Ariza , Buboy even his wife Jinkee. I was going for Pacquiao before the fight because i wanted a great next fight with big mouth Mayweather but Marquez won the fight and won it clear. I thought Manny Pacquiao will destroy Marquez this time but Juan Manuel fought a great fight and outboxed the pound for pound king.
paquiao won because mayweather is in the mix. thank floyd pac!
The only people that saw a Pacquiao win are the Tards. If Pacquiao struggled and labored with a 38 year old JMM, what the heck do you think Maywearger will do to him?
Pacquiao will NOT see round 12 vs. Mayweather. No way…NO HOW!!!!
Ofcourse you will always say Marquez is robbed Mr. Williams, no matter what the outcome of the fight is! Pacquiao won 7 rounds to 5. He simply outworked Marquez. From rounds 9 to 12, Marqeuz was very reluctant to throw punches.
I said this yesterday that pacman can’t handle counter punchers and it came true yesterday if JMM could make pacman look so ordinary what would PBF do to him and PBF made JMM look ordinary and beat him every round with a round 2 knockdown.
No I did not I was way up there in the cheap seat. 150 dollar sits. What happen? I watch a lot of the on the big screen. Let’s meet up and talk boxing
SORRY (Been awake for 36 hours)! IF Manny get’s schooled so easily by Marquez who was simply counter punching, could you imagine what Mayweather will do?
Also, if it’s close in Vegas, Mayweather get’s the decision! Manny hasn’t the heart anymore, once you lose that, you should retire!
IF Mayweather get’s schooled so easily by Marquez who was simply counter punching, could you imagine what Mayweather will do?
Also, if it’s close in Vegas, Mayweather get’s the decision! Manny hasn’t the heart anymore, once you lose that, you should retire!
it was a business decision – simple as that….what a shame
@MoneyTG…
Section L, lower levels behind the floor seats.
Where did you sit at? Did you see what happened fight before Marquez left the ring when Max Kellerman and another guy from HBO approached team marquez to try and interview him?
did anyone see how bad manny got boooooed. Wow. That was ten time what floyd got after his last fight. Manny was in shock. Has not had to deal with that reaction before. Finally got exposed. Thought marquez would come in small. Marquez came in at 150 pounds. That boy was roided up like crazy. Two roided up fighters made it a good fight. Arum right now saying berto ortiz bradley and floyd all off the table. Floyd will destroy this dood.
in post fight interview outside the ring by espn manny asked about fighting floyd next… Manny sais he does not know he is not choosing the next person he fights thats up to his promoter. He wants no part of floyd . Next few weeks we should see arum swindle his way out of that fight. Manny can not handle fighters with movement who can counter. Forget bradley. Look for a brandon rios fight next.
@here the thing
My badd. BF: breakfast C.C. ( cirus-cirus casino)
Where did you sit at, here the thing?
Money TG…
A “BF at CC”?? You speakin’ english bro? lol
Here’s the thing bro…I respect your opinion and everyone is e n t i t l e d to one. And in my 30 years of knowledge and wisdom in the fighting arts, I can say with conviction that the fighter who is more aggressive and can dictate the pace and maximizes his offense to perfection will always beat the other fighter no matter how great a defensive fighter the opponent is. Whoever dictates range, pace, tempo, and distance and applies the better offense will always win any fight, be it in the ring or on the streets.
With that said, it is up to either FLoyd or manny to accomplish this when both face each other in the ring.
It’s a 50-50 call. Floyd has all the tools to beat Manny and vice versa.
And imho, if Pac fights the perfect fight, he will defeat Floyd. But if Pac makes mistakes like he did against Marquez last night, and Floyd fights a perfect fight and throws enough punches to nullify Pac’s offense, then Floyd wins.
hey Dom…so all of a sudden just because Manny didn’t impress you this time, Floyd will easily whoop Pac? Since Floyd beat marquez better than pac did, then you’re so sure Floyd will annihilate pac right? LOL
Using your logic, Pac will easily beat Floyd since Pac beat Hatton more convincingly, beat Delahoya more convincingly, and since Pac knocked down Mosley and Floyd couldn’t, I guess you can also say pac would put Floyd to sleep.
Am I right or are you confused? LOL
That’s was me here the thing taking your name, anyway let’s have a BF I am at C.C
Did you see some of PAC fan booing?
To your question: money will counter punce him all night long- plus he is faster, bigger and a better boxer then jmm. You have 30 Years of boxing knowledge, you know manny will not beat money.
If you only can see now that Pacquiao would lose badly to Mayweather thhen you are a Pactards…..Mayweather would embaress Manny Pacquiao in 2010, 2011 or 2012 because he is superior in every way, EASY WORK like Floyd Promised.
Floyd Mayweather would absolutely humiliate Pacquiao inside a Boxing ring absolutely no questions, Pacquiao is a fraud WHO CAN NOT FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tell me Pachaters….since Pac struggled to win against Marquez and all of a sudden you’re 100% sure Floyd will beat pac because you clowns think Floyd is better since Floyd dominated JMM while Pac struggled, then tell me…
HOW COME MOSLEY GOT KTFO VS FORREST WHEN MOSLEY KNOCKED OUT THE MAN WHO BEAT FORREST TWICE?
Explain your logic. If you can’t prove yourselves to me, considered yourself STFO (Schooled the F**K out).
Hey mi verga…
why don’t you tell me what Pac fans are cryin about and I’ll tell you what Marquez fans are cryin about.
@The Impostor…
I don’t drink or smoke buddy.
@moneytg
I’m always at Pac’s fights
its you pac fans who are crying, little manny has been exposed and was booed off the ring.
better wipe your tears now dont live in your world of illussions face reality and be a man learn how to accept defeat and do not insist your illussions…hahahaha….
chris williams is a stupidest writer if i ever saw one.
@ here the thing
Did you make it to the fight buddy?
@ here the thing
I sat in the cheap seat. Where did you sit at?
Tell the truth here the thing- it look like marquez won. Can’t wait to download the later on today. Let’s have that drink buddy, I want meet you.
Marquez will go down as one of the greatest fighters of all time, a recognition well deserved.
Manny Pacquiao is the only fighter I’ve EVER witness physically RUN at opponents like against Clottey in round 7 & Mosley in round 2…whilst throwing power shots in rhythmn.
The man RAN, RAN like a bicycle chain, interlocking with power from both fists…
He is a FREAK….the ULTIMATE fighting machine.
No boxing fan SHOULD EVER FORGET what Manny Pacquiao has given to the sport of Gods…
The IMPOSTOR is back…lol
You’re so jealous of me that the best you can do is IMPERSONATE my name.
Good one. Like I keep telling everyone here:
I’LL MAKE YOU FAMOUS
@Sean…I’ve been doing martial arts/boxing for over 29 years. Now you decide if I’ve ever put on a pair of gloves.
And it’s funny how I disprove your “headbutt” comment and you come back and bring up the drug testing lol.
how come you dodged my other questions? You can’t hang with me or what? lol
Keep tryin’ buddy.
congratulations ! PACMAN won again bwahahaha ! for those who refused to believe go to punch stats and see who leads all category, not for you chris williams coz you are already branded as pac hater, jmm just back peddaled all througjout of 12 rounds no aggression, challenger don’t win fight that weight besides loosing in punch stats so chris just be a cry baby no matter what you write robbed robbed robbed u r the real looser
@Hear’s The Thing – gonna rewatch the fight now here in the U.K & come back on here.
What I’m witnessing is a mindset of a warrior who’s SOUL is elsewhere but in BOXING!
Manny’s heart, soul & body language DICTATES to me…he’s DONE with boxing my friend.
There were times tonight where he had opportunities to NAIL marquez on the ropes….& he turned away & got hit! ..& got hit again…HE COULDN’T CARE LESS!
To strike a power shot into Manny Pacquiao is to pis* off a violent wasp…..not anymore.
ALL HUMANS lose “natural energy” between 32 to 34….it is where UK soccer players retire, ALL HUMANS slow down between this point physically.
Mentally…..Manny is obsessed with “poverty” etc…last thing on his mind is “toe to toe battles”.
In his prime, the man was UNFIGHTABLE….purely UNFIGHTABLE!!
suleman fk you have some balls and come out and have the balls and get ride of this jinks.
IDIOTS!!! Clearly, Marquez did not even prove to be a threat…. smarties normally call it, the “CAMOTE” tactic. because May was coward enuf to fight pac, they devised a plan to trap May to fight Pac. Dat is “let May think that Pac is WEAK.” that Pac is not that good… that May can easily beat Pac. fIGHT fans… MAy and Pac will fight… huwahahahaha
@here the thing
I am at C.C. Let go have a drink buddy.
Oh! I know you heard all of the boo! And yes some of them where PAC fan.
@Gee…i respect your opinion bro, but I respectfully disagree with you.
As hard as it is for me to understand your point, I must say that Manny has regressed a lot in his last two fights.
Particularly in this fight, I observed that he was clearly g a s s e d by the time the 10th round started. He was breathing with his mouth open. I, for one, believe he overtrained a bit. This is Ariza’s and Roach’s fault. And Manny’s to a certain degree.
But like I said, this is another learning experience from Pac. Certainly, at 32, you’re not past your prime and you’re still growing and maturing as a fighter. Wanna know why I say his mind and body aren’t done with boxing? Because he trains just as hard, if not harder, than he did back in 2005-2009. How do I know? I’m there to witness it firsthand.
But you are e n t i t l e d to your opinion and I can’t wait to read your next article explaining why you think Manny is done. I hope you bring legitimate facts to back up your opinion. As far as I see it, I’m gonna reserve judgment until I see his next fight.
Because like I said, this was a TOUGH learning experience for Pacquiao (Mosley fight doesn’t count because that wasn’t a fight at all), and I’m curious to see how Pac responds to this kind of adversity this late in his career. If he puts up a stinker in May, then it will speak volumes in my observing mind.
@hears,the commission also said extra testing is up to the fighters to negotiate.I will find the link novice! I don’t even know why I debate with you because you are the least knowledgeable Pac fan.Have you ever put on a pair of gloves?
ALL DEFENCES are not just IMPREGNABLE…but REALISE THEY’RE IMPREGNABLE, hence FEAR!
This my good friend is the PSYCHOLOGY OF ONE VUNERABLE FLOYD MAYWEATHER….
@ Sean..the GREATEST OF natures DEFENSIVES cannot withstand natures OFFENSIVE ONSLAUGHTS of typhoons, volcano’s, tidal waves.
FIGHTING PHILOSOPHY dictates that ALL DEFENCES ARE IMPREGNABLE….
Sean…you clown.. the NSAC CONFIRMED that the cut above Pac’s eye was the result of the headbutt.
You wanna argue with what the c o m m i s s i o n says? LOL go ahead. It just shows how confused you are.
Better yet…give me a link that shows CLEARLY with I N D I S P U T A B L E EVIDENCE that the cut above Pac’s eye was caused by a marquez right hand. I bet you can’t do it.
Sean says “Being aggressive doesn’t win fights it’s clean effective P.U.N.C.H.I.N.G.”
This statement proves to me that you’re not a real boxing aficionado like I am.
So explain to me mister…if it’s clean effective punching that wins fights, then how come Delahoya lost to Trinidad when Delahoya clearly landed the more effective shots in that fight?
How come Marquez lost to Pac in their second fight when Marquez had more of your so-called effective punches?
How come Chavez lost to Randall in ’94 when throughout the fight Chavez landed the more effective blows?
Wake up dawg.
quite a difficulty to judge… im no mexican nor a filipino… but certainly in all aspect a… challenger should prove dat he is worthy to put up a fight… not just staying back and waiting 4 d champ 2 punch him…
@Noname…
**See below comment to @devil.
There is no such thing as “shot” as a result of a fighter losing a previous fight. If a fighter was truly “shot”, he’d retire. Case in point: Hatton and Delahoya after Pac beat them.
Some boxers come back better after losses. Using your logic that fighters are done after getting beat up, then it means Pacquiao would have been done after losing to Morales. Then it means Cotto would’ve been done after losing to Pacquiao yet Cotto is currently a world champion. Then it means Hearns would’ve been done after getting KTFO by Leonard yet he still came back to beat Hall of Famers Duran and Benitez and managed to get a draw on the rematch with Leonard 8 yrs later.
You keepin up with me yet? Or are you confused? LOL
d agressor wins in pro boxin … if u dont agree go watch amateur boxin instead
@noname
dela hoya was aging and dehydrated.
hatton was exposed by mayweather.
cotto was damage fighter after the fight with margarito.
clootey no name. fixed fight.
margarito. beatean up badly and has 1+ yr lay off
mosley past his prime. cant fight after 3rounds
YOU’RE MISSING ONE POINT…MANNY DISMANTLED THESE WARRIORS WINNING 57 OUT OF 58 ROUNDS!!!!
Devil says
“Mosley=40 years old
Hatton = put of shape and dum
Clottey= who’s that bum
De la hoya= skinny old and dehydrated
Cotton= never the same after Margarito and was caught in a catchweight”
LOL…First of all, you don’t even have your facts right. Mosley was 39 when Pac fought him. You still suffering from your LIE that Pac got knocked down vs. Barrera? I will put you to shame dawg. Read this and weep.
Baldomir – 36 yrs old, out of shape, and EVERYBODY’S leftovers.
Mitchell – 35 yrs old, out of shape, and EVERYONE’S LEFTOVERS.
Delahoya – Old and slow by the time Floyd fought him. DLH said it himself.
Gatti – never the same after Ward exposed him and beat him to a pulp 3 times.
Hatton – Floyd made him fight OUT OF HIS COMFORT ZONE (147 lbs). If you know boxing, you’d know that Hatton did ALL HIS DAMAGE at 140.
Marquez – in 2009, JMM was already considered a Pacquiao leftover. lol
Mosley – 38 years old (vs Floyd) vs. 39 years old (vs Pac). In other words, OLD.
Now did Floyd have the balls to fight Cotto, Margarito, and Williams when these welterweights were dominating the division? I think not buddy.
YOu wanna keep going with me? LOL
@ Hears the Thing…you school idiots with “one hand tied behind your back”
I would bet 100k that you will NEVER see Manny of 2009..or even March 2010..ever again? This performance was ON TOP of Mosley remember….
Manny threw punches LIKE HE COULDN’T CARE LESS mate….he couldn’t give a flying f*k against his nemisis!! NO RETALLIATION, NO COMBINATIONS..WILD punches back pre De La Hoya…
As for DE LA HOYA slaggin him off on Twitter….what a bitter man he is!
I cannot defend him tonite…retirement or he’s gonna make a mockery of his LEGENDARY existence.
@Devil…NO i cannot agree with you that Manny will get picked apart by Floyd because of both fighters’ experience against Marquez.
I revealed your flawed logic below. Did you read it? Or are you ignoring it?
The truth is, NOBODY can say who is better between Floyd or Pac because the FACT IS, they’ve never fought each other.
Let me ask you this:
Explain to me why Mosley lost to Vernon Forrest when Mosley knocked out the man who beat Forrest twice?
The fight was so close that the winner of the 12th round won the fight.
Marquez stopped fighting in the 12th and Manny keep going and won.
i must disagree with the majority, first off i didn’t think manny looked good and i must say he didn’t win by 116-112 that judge must be banned from boxing.
i do think it was more like 115-113 it could be a draw it could be. i just don’t agree with people saying marquez won hands down etc etc.
from my perspective it seemed like marquez did land clean shots but not enough to win the fight. he landed alot on the guard of pac like the glove area or the elbows. pac landed more punches, not always as clean but he did landed the most punches.
ofcourse marquez and nacho claim he won the fight they have been robbed again. but that’s just ego talking. i’ve watched this fight twice now. and pacquiao won by a razor thin decision over marquez
The headbutt was on the bridge of his nose,the cut came from the right that landed before the heads collided.Gotta stop using revisionist eyes
@hear’s,the same people that gave Manny the nod are the same ones counting punches so that compubox argument is L.A.M.E. Being aggressive doesn’t win fights it’s clean effective P.U.N.C.H.I.N.G. Manny got handled pretty easily tonight! Who am I supposed to believe you or my lying two eyes? I won’t debate what is a clear loss for Manny!
@hearthethings
all of those boxers you mention was past their prime and beaten up badly.
dela hoya was aging and dehydrated.
hatton was exposed by mayweather.
cotto was damage fighter after the fight with margarito.
clootey no name. fixed fight.
margarito. beatean up badly and has 1+ yr lay off
mosley past his prime. cant fight after 3rounds.
Marquez the great mexican warrior won. Pacquiao lost. Period
cry baby cry for mayweather and marquez fans bwahahahahahaha. dumb people dont know how to accept defeat. hahaha….. always have excuses…that is why you will never grow as a man and you will stay forever as a boy….. so so sad a situation..
Sean…did you read all of my comments tonight? I don’t think you did.
I’m a boxing fan brotha. And I will tell you straight up that Marquez did not defeat Manny tonight. How can you argue with the punchstats? How can you argue with VETERAN JUDGES? How can you argue the fact that Manny, THE CHAMP, was more aggressive than JMM, the CHALLENGER?
Haven’t you watched enough boxing in your lifetime? Haven’t you noticed that in all championship fights, the champion almost always gets the decision if the challenger isn’t the aggressor?
Yes, Pac was less than impressive. And yes, JMM fought him nail for nail, tooth for tooth. But the fact remains, JMM still did not put a hurting on Pac.
here’s a couple facts:
1) Numbers don’t lie and compubox stats show Pac landed more shots overall. There is no stat for “effective shots” unless they are knockdowns. FACT
2) JMM had a swolled right orbital bone as a result of a Pacquiao left. Pac had a cut as a result of a headbutt. The only blemish on Pac’s face was a small cut inside Pac’s lower lip. Both Pac’s eyes were completely open and his face never swelled. FACT. Now you tell me who was more beat up.
Mosley=40 years old
Hatton = put of shape and dum
Clottey= who’s that bum
De la hoya= skinny old and dehydrated
Cotton= never the same after Margarito and was caught in a catchweight
@hear’s; keep it 100% Manny got beat easily tonight and I don’t care what anyone says.If you were a true boxing fan you would admit that.Marquez beat Manny as easy as Floyd beat Juan. I would give Manny only two rounds in that fight and I am being generous because I like to help the needy.
@ here is the thing
Pacquiao got knock the f### out b**** a $$ pactard stack of s### if pacquiao has the same performance against Floyd he will get pick apart could u agree with me on that one at least he better stop making the excuse about the crambs secong time he uses that excuse
Profit says “He [Pac] can’t take on skilked fighters”
I guess this means the following opponents have no skill whatsoever:
Barrera
Morales
Marquez
Delahoya
Cotto
Hatto
Mosley
Last I checked, all of these fighters are going to the boxing Hall of Fame. But i guess you don’t have to have skill in order to be a hall of famer. LOL
Wake up people.
@Devil…you just said “u believe” barrera sent Pac to the canvas. So ur not sure?
LOL
Wake the f**K up b1tch and watch the fight again. The slip happened 30 seconds into the first round. Pac DID NOT get knocked down as a result of a clean punch. It was a slip.
Keep cryin that Marquez got robbed. If you wanna go toe-to-toe with me about boxing on these blogs, you will get schooled big time. Trust me on that.
You don’t want none. And if you do, I’ll make you famous.
By robbing Marquez they have put another nail in the coffin, after Mayweather and Pacquiao fight, it will be dead for good, I’m a boxing fan, hated MMA and UFC, but come on, Marquez proved tonight that he is top 2 P4P worthy
All you Pac idiots watched his first proper fight and see him lose…. He can’t take on skilked fighters, only washed up / beat.
I pray the Floyd fight never takes place because that is the reason the result was fixed.
here’s the FLAWED thinking of Pac haters:
DEVIL says “Marquez out box and exposed pacquiao, now I’m 100% Floyd would pick apart easily”
With this logic, one can claim that Pac would pick apart Floyd easily since Pac KO’d Hatton in the 2nd round and it took Floyd 10 rounds. One could also claim that because Pac outboxed and made DLH quit on his stool, then it means Pac would also defeat Floyd easily.
But the truth is…STYLES MAKES FIGHTS. What one opponent does to defeat another opponent DOES NOT entail what another opponent would do against that same opponent.
Case in point: You’d think Mosley, who beat Mayorga, would also beat Forrest because Forrest lost to Mayorga (TWICE) but yet Mosley got KTFO by Forrest.
CASE CLOSED. @Devil has just proven himself to be a certified clown.
In their first fight in 02 I believe Barrera send pacquiao 2 the canvas u dum f*** pacquiao got and beat him up watch the fight idiot discrase calling ur a pactard and he got ko 2 other unknown fighters in his career fact hahahaha
Pacquiao/Marquez 1 DRAW
Pacquiao/Marquez 2 SPIT DECISION TO Pacquiao
Pacquiao/Marquez 3 Majority Decision to Pacquiao
PACQUIAO/MARQUEZ 4 ????????
BRING IT ON. IT is better than Rocky 1 to7.
Watch for the PPV numbers on this PAC/Marquez 3. HBO would be releasing it a week after the fight since it will be over 1.25 million and I repeat HBO will be releasing it and not a third party.
@devil…since ur memory fails you, go watch Pac-Barrera 1 on Youtube again.
That fake knockdown you speak of was a slip by Pac after Pac’s feet got entangled with Barrera’s. But the referee erroneously ruled it a knockdown just like the referee erroneously ruled Pac getting knocked down against Mosley.
Like I said, wake up.
A Pacquiao vs. Mayweather fight is not as appealing as it once was.
@devil…barrera never knocked down Pac you clown. Get your head outta ur azz.
Point is…Marquez didn’t TAKE IT from Pac. And in this world we live in, a challenger has TO TAKE IT from the champion by being the aggressor. If a challenger knocks down a champion, it simply becomes more convincing in the judges’ minds.
Wanna know why Delahoya lost his belt to Trinidad? Because Trinidad took it from Delahoya in the championship rounds. That’s how judges think when it comes to championship fights. Wake up.
@devil
Floyd had his chance. Two chances actually. But I guess the tide is turning. Floydie’s mega fight with Pacquiao may have to wait. PACQUIAO/MARQUEZ 4 IS IT.
Floydie may just have to fight PAC’s leftovers for now.
@ we now pacquiaonis in the hall of shame for the biggest coward and stealing big fights
This sport is really not worth watching at this scale anymore and top rank and golden boy will continue to kill it
@ so be it
Floydie would destroy pacquiaodi
TOP RANK IS clearly the winner tonight not PACQUIAO.
and the most coward Boxer Ever! Hall of Shamer
Marquez out box and exposed pacquiao, now I’m 100% Floyd would pick apart easily, Floyd is a much greater boxer by alot
BRING ON PACQUIAO/MARQUEZ 4 on May 5.
This is the best result as far as TOP RANK is concerned. MORE $$$$$$ on the horizon.
This is also a big bargaining tool for Bob in negotiating a fight with Floydie. Floydie is now just an option for Bob. Floydie needs a fight with Pacquiao to boost his slumbering PPV numbers but Bob does not necessarily needs Floydie in this case as he has Marquez as the other goose who will lay a golden egg for TOP RANK.
Point is idiot Marquez dominated and out box pacquiao why don’t u pactards get it does not matter if pacquiao drop him, pacquiao was drop by Barrera in their first and did that meant anything
Marquez made Pac look mediocre…Again. lol
Hey Marquez fans and Pac haters who keep cryin “robbery”, I got a scenario and question for you clowns:
If you got in a fist fight with a guy at the gym while playing basketball and he knocked you down four times on two separate occasions, what would you do if he gets in your face a third time and challenged you to a fist fight ?
Would you…
A. Wait for him to punch you?
or
B. Be the aggressor and take the life out of him to PROVE your the better and tougher fighter?
Marquez stopped fighting in the 12th … and Manny kept going and got enough points to win.
REMATCH!!!
HAHAHA, Floydiots in panic again! XD
the champion is the one who attacks, while the challenger is the one who runs from the champion and just waiting for an opportunity punch. how are you going to impress the judge?
Lmao pacquiao got outbpx by 38 year old Marquez again hahahahahahaha funny thing pacquiao started praying when the fight finished, he has no chance against Floyd he will get humiliated by Floyd fact
@GEE…you cannot say a champion’s heart is gone based on this fight alone. Pac began training one month early to prepare for this fight. What does that tell you? Pac misses the sport when he’s in Congress. He yearns to train when he’s out doing public appearances.
Pac was CONFUSED during this entire fight because he realized JMM kept timing his right right left to perfection and Pac FAILED to adjust. This was his major flaw. And Pac let his frustrations get to him.
Another thing…personal issues can be underrated in a fighter’s psyche. Two days ago, Pac had a huge fight with Jinkee in their hotel suite. Not trying to make excuses but it can be said that Pac’s mind wasn’t in its proper focus heading into the fight.
Trust me bro. There is no way Pac is retiring and there is no way Pac has lost his edge. A much needed wake-up call was necessary and this was it. Better for it to happen now instead of next year. All the limelight and all the hype may have gotten to Pac’s head a lil bit and I’m sure Pac will regain his focus.
Congratulations Champ Manny Pacquiao. Next fight will be a KO.
Pacquiao is done with Marquez. Pacquiao over Marquez 2 to 0 is enough. If Marque wants to fight, may be Khan or Bradley.
@Filipinos love Japanese Chin Nuts Yes, lets go back, and do boxing like before, the winner of a fight is the one that stands on his feet, no matter if the other one dies or if he is injured, at least if someone cant back up from the canvas, well know who is the really winner…. jajajajajajaja, you’re brilliant dude… JAJAJAJAJA
Pacquiao is done with Marquez. Pacquiao over Marquez 2 to 0 is enough. If Marque wants to fight, may nr Khan or Bradley.
Marquez was robbed and he struggle with Marquez pacquiao for the calibre of mayweather
Manny win by the skin of his teeth, but he still won, Marquez will never beat Pacquiao, he cant make Pac kiss the canvas, if u want to beat Pac you have to take the fight to him!
We all saw the same fight. Marquez was the winner. Who cares what the pid off judges score… we all know thw truth.
Not a good fight, really lacking. Manny seems confused he don’t know what to do. I’m expecting a fireworks but it didn’t happen. I am a big fan of Manny but like other fans I am not happy with the 12 rounds action.
pacman got out thought jmm won that fight hands down. this is wot i think went down the tryin t get the peds out ov mannys system n they wanted t c how gud e was without em n my honest oppion is floyd will skool manny…
Paquiao won 2-0-1 against Marquez. Having lost twice is more than enough.
Here’s the TRUTH:
Pac’s blowout victories over the last three years have built a certain expectation from fans and haters alike.
Now that Pac UNDERACHIEVED in some sort, some people are cryin’ “foul” and “robbery”, including Marquez.
The FACT is, Marquez knows how to fight Pacquiao. But in spite of this, what Marquez has isn’t enough because he cannot knock Pac down or severely hurt him. The reason Morales beat Pac in 2005 was because Morales showed more aggression THROUGHOUT THE FIGHT. And this is what JMM failed to do in all of his fights vs. Pac. And is the same reason why Mexican fans adore Morales MORE than they do Marquez.
This is the truth and nothing but the truth fight fans.
when the mayweather-pacquiao fights happen, love to see it without a 12 round limitation rather that seeing “the losser knealing to the best pound for pound boxer”, no need for judges decision, the only thing needed for both figther is a ring, a gloves and a mouth piece and a much bigger venue, the MGM is too small for fans of both figther.
Floyd is not fight Manny, and may never fight because Floyd knew what Pacquiao will do to him–e.g. Knock him out as cold as Hatton.
PLEASE Stop talking about any rematch between pacquiao and marquez! These two clowns will just chase each other like tom and jerry! Give us an exciting fight instead of this same boring fight! Let’s see some courage and fist fight, KO’s and blood instead of two guys chasing each other and no punch hurting one another. Lets see some real action and not just reel action these is reality not the movies!
first of the judge who ruled 116-112 is crazy, i had it much closer. i had it 115-113 pacquiao. he didn’t look great, he did look a little lost. but he did enough to win. should fans be happy with that? no i don’t think so. sure there i a reason for everything. maybe baiting floyd mayweather into a mega fight. looking slower, less tactical etc. who knows.
i just don’t think marquez did enough to win every round. we all saw how manny came back when marquez landed 2 to 3 punches. everytime that happened manny came back in the last seconds of the round to steal the round. imo that’s what happened.
CHIN NUTS says “you want someone’s belt, you take it just like what pac did when he took marquezs belt. Pac knocked this dude 4 times. thats how you take a belt, not by points.”
For once I agree with you. Well said.
But for once, I’d like to see you have some c l a s s and stop insulting Pinoys and calling them names. I don’t care how much you hate Pac. But not every Filipino is named Pacquiao.
I will no longer respond to your insults. But if you talk STRICTLY BOXING and if you talk INTELLIGENTLY ABOUT BOXING, then you’ll illicit a response from me. I have a strange feeling you know the sport. So next time show it brotha.
Arum, Roach and Pacquiao just set a deadly trap for mayweather tonight. If I were mayweather, I wouldn’t come to the spider web. Pacquiao is much better than tonight’s performance, but again they are baiting mayweather. If mayweather jr. accepts the fight in May, he will be going to Horishima, Japan in the 1940s–one blow and you are done. Period. What a very smart strategy by Team Pacquiao. Take my worlds.
@Chino says:
November 13, 2011 at 3:11 am
@ box234. It would b an easy fight for mayweather ! Do u even know bout boxing. ? U saw. How marquez was able to land clean shots on pacquiao Wid a 37% accuracy if im not mistaken imagine floy who is 48 or more talkin bout accuracy per fight ! Pacquiao looked lost he didnt know wat to do against marquez s counter punches and im not sayin dis cus im a mayweather fan but if u really know bout boxing U should know. Mayweathers skills gonna b too much for. Pacquiao As a matter fact theres another fighter da i know would Easily beat pacquiao. ” sergio martinez”
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Exactly! But my question is, why not fight them if it’s an easy work for him? Maybe in the back of his head he knows that these guys (MP and SM) are capable of knocking him out and wont take the risk? Ask yourself again mate!
@mi verga…keep cryin ese
The BOTTOM LINE IS THIS:
Pac is 2-0-1 against your sore loser Chicano.
PROVE TO ME that Pac got a beatdown.
JMM – Swollen right eye as a result of a Pac punch.
Pac- cut above eye as a result of a headbutt.
LMFAO.
If JMM really beatdown Pac, then how come Pac was the aggressor all night.
Based on my 29-yr fighting experience, the guy who gets “beatdown” is always the guy moving backwards. Was Pac moving backwards the entire fight? LOL
Pac was the aggressor. The judges saw it as that. Pac landed more shots overall. And Pac won.
KEEP CRYIN’. Here’s a servilleta for you lol…better yet, here’s a toalla.
Marquez showed the world who was who in the ring tonight! There is no denying what we all saw! PAcman is a frace.. it was plain to see.
Marquez is a true MEXICAN… never backind down…. NO SE RAJO!!!
This is my last post tonight. To the majority of fans, I salute you for being true boxing fans by respecting the judges integrity and decision. Stand firm in your belief that tonights judges acted with integrity and authority. That they exercise due deligence and absolute honesty in their judgment. To tonight’s losers, take a deep breath and relax. Let your mind and reasoning take it’s course and when you wake up tomorrow, you will find that reality is not afterall hard to accept. Have a good sleep…
Mate…FOR ONCE, ha ha…I think you wrong!
I seen Manny get hit, hit again & hit…& no retalliation! An ACCEPTANCE of being hit!
18 months ago…Mannys fighting philosophy of “take one punch to retalliate with 4 punches in revenge” was evident!
It’s gone…I know fighters, their eyes, heart…telling you now, his heart is GONE from boxing! AT 32/33…you cannot get the heart back, he’s bigger than boxing.
But he needs to retire….was awful to witness tonight, awful.
@ box234. It would b an easy fight for mayweather ! Do u even know bout boxing. ? U saw. How marquez was able to land clean shots on pacquiao Wid a 37% accuracy if im not mistaken imagine floy who is 48 or more talkin bout accuracy per fight ! Pacquiao looked lost he didnt know wat to do against marquez s counter punches and im not sayin dis cus im a mayweather fan but if u really know bout boxing U should know. Mayweathers skills gonna b too much for. Pacquiao As a matter fact theres another fighter da i know would Easily beat pacquiao. ” sergio martinez”
highway robbery
Marquez did NOT do enough to win the fight. Marquez’s trainer gave him a negative encouragement Go back and see yourself.
@GEE…
I beg to differ. Pac shouldn’t retire from the sport. This will make Pac come back even stronger.
The hype was built. And Pac lived up to it for a couple years. He has now become complacent because of all his other obligations. But the fire is still there. And I know it because I’ve witnessed it. Sometimes a fighter needs a humbling experience in order for him to gain that “edge” once again. And this is the beauty in the Marquez experience. It will show Pacquiao that he still has some work to do.
Pac did not make the adjustments in this fight. I saw it with my own two eyes. JMM was timing Pac’s right right jab left straight to perfection and slipping Pac’s left straight numerous times. JMM was d u c k i n g under the punches and Pac was getting frustrated. What Pac should have done was right right jab, then fake the left straight, and as JMM begins to d u c k under, throw a right uppercut. Pac should’ve realized that JMM had timed his right right left and Pac should’ve adjusted. But he didn’t.
Pac will get that “edge” back. I’m sure of it. He needed this to happen. He’s fortunate he didn’t get knocked down or else he would’ve lost.
im a pacquiao fans, but tonight, it was very clear that marquez won the fight, manny was not his usual self, so guess, now that it was clear for tonight that manny is showing his not so good fight… mayweather will love to fight him, afterall mayweather likes to fight a “not so good figther”… thats what he thinks… tonights fight is a bait… watch out mayweather, your not known to be moneyweather if you don’t know…boxing is bussiness!
paclown and little floyd fight already,let the the two queers fight already, they are both jokes with manufactured boxing records. let the two queers fight already, and both of you retire right after the fight and leave boxing, and maybe the sport will bounce back.
I have to say that Pac’s win this time is not convincing. My hat’s off to Marquez who gave Pac someting to ponder in the days ahead. But yes, I’ll have to agree with some that a challenger can’t take a crown away from the champion by just being a counter-puncher. He can’t just wait for a chance to grab that crown… he has to wrestle the crown away from Pac.
Cinnamon boy said:
I was a fan of Pacquiao, let’s face it, everyone, he lost. Is not about if Marquez should make Pacquiao to kiss the canvas, it’s about that Pacquiao look terrible, he was beaten up, he was cut in the eye and mouth… and Marquez… Marquez it was almost like a little swollen face. Pacquiao knows that he lost… everyone, even if you you just want to put some excuse, you KNOW, he lost…
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Unlike you, being full of s h i t, I’ll be honest, i hate this f u c k i n g mmiddget, but Marquez didnt do what he should have done, be an aggressor. i dont even believe you’ve watched the fight.
you want someone’s belt, you take it just like what pac did when he took marquezs belt. Pac knocked this dude 4 times. thats how you take a belt, not by points.
Pacquiao has thrown 578 punches connecting 176 while Marquez had it 436 connecting 138. Pacquiao threw 304 jabs connecting 59 to Marquez’s 182 with 38 connects. Pacquiao threw 274 power punches connecting 117 while Marquez threw 254 with 100 connecting.
‘To be the man, you have to beat the man.” Tonight, Marquez did NOT beat the man. Manny Pacuiao WON the fight.
For all of you people using the compubox defense, I hope to don’t think it’s a computer alone counting punches. Let me educate u, The system calls for two operators. Each operator watches one of the two fighters and has access to four keys, corresponding to jab connect, jab miss, power punch connect, and power punch miss. The operators key in the different punches as they happen, collecting punch counts and hit percentages along the way. So being this is how it works obviously these people were paid to look the other way. There’s no money in a JMM vs FM BUT A HELL OF ALOT IN A PAC VS FM! JMM couldve scored a knock down and I’m sure it would’ve been ruled a slip. Bad day for boxing, I hate to say it the future for boxing is looking dim. Money dictates who will be champ and who won’t.
im a filipino but i am really disappointed with pacquiaos performance…its obvious that JMM won the fight you deserve to win marquez…in the eyes of the people who watch the fight you are the winner you can not cheat the eyes of the people…Congratulations JMM you are the true winner
Marquez won fair and square! 100 meter dash running is the contest right!? Gone are the days of boxing when judges score on punch points. 20 yrs ago, marquez is the sure winner hands down but a very very boring fight. I hate that fight. If marquez was able to connect and hurt pacman he should not run after wards. His punches look crisp and strong but look at the face after the fight he got more damage than pacman have!. Judges are trying to save boxing from UFC and MMA that’s why they dislike boring fighter who just counter and run like hell. Sorry to marquez he should won by points but it is really a boring fight because he run too much I was beginning to question if he is a real mexican!
@DamnIT The fact bla bla bla, Im gonna tell you one thing, he did not win, yes he got a decision of corrupt judges, that is winning, Im dont know dude, a paper, is not a real winning.
Why did Marquez quit in the 12th round … Marquez had a chance but he blew it. The 12th round was the deciding factor.
Manny wins again!!!!
But I would like to see Manny vs Marquez IV.
“he knocked down Marquez so he won” here’s the thing you are full of it, Marquez beat paclown down on there last two fights, and he made paclown look like a amateur again. Boxing fans saw what happened tonight and everbody in the mgm grand knows who won that fight and it wasn’t paclown, Marquez won in the eyes of the public and thats what matters when it comes to boxing legacies.
I am a pacman fan but i honestly felt JMM did enough to win this fight
Anyone or so-called boxing fans who JUDGE Manny on tonight should sit down & witness the night MAYWEATHER turned him down, March 2010…1300 punches against a genuine welterweight with a stone more of muscle! 1300 punches?????
Manny looked genuinely possessed…just before he entered politics.
Boxing will die on it’s arse the day this man leaves the sport of gods…Manny Pacquiao WILL ALWAYS BE TIMELESS in this sport!
Amir Khan even said Manny loss and it pained him to see what Manny was going through.
This fight is an invitation for Floyd Mayweather to fight the little noy noy. if this little mmiddgett tortured Marquez all throughout the fight which he could have done, that will be another reason for floyd to come up with another excuse.
Noy noy eat s h i t .
congrats to marquez the true winner. come on dont be damn stupid and hepocrite
I was a fan of Pacquiao, let’s face it, everyone, he lost. Is not about if Marquez should make Pacquiao to kiss the canvas, it’s about that Pacquiao look terrible, he was beaten up, he was cut in the eye and mouth… and Marquez… Marquez it was almost like a little swollen face. Pacquiao knows that he lost… everyone, even if you you just want to put some excuse, you KNOW, he lost…
How disappointing. The only way to settle it was if one guy knocked the other’s block off. That’s the only way to really settle this. I’m a fan of boxing, not one single player. It’s really shameful what the end result was.
The same people judging the fight are responsible for compubox stats.So those numbers mean very little!
What the corner man told his fighter has nothing to do with the judges decision. Some one needs to put a stop to this kind of stuff. If theirs no integrity in the sports then theirs no sports. Needs to start with the judges. I should call this sport WWF or RAW vs WWE
Sorry folks, we can argue here all night (morning) but the FACT, I repeat, THE FACT remains that Manny won this fight. Sore losers cannot change the result and the judges decision. It’s final. Pac declared the clear winner. Don’t you losers understand that? Your opinion does not matter and will not stand the test of time. Let’s move on to Floyd. After what he has seen tonight, maybe..just maybe, he will change his mind and fight the winner tonight..the Honorable Congessman Manny Pacquaio.
Manny Pacquiao the “warrior” is gone for good..it’s as simple as that! I’m a huge fan…for me he’s the G.O.A.T & I’ll explain why in a future article.
Like he’s said himself, he’s got bigger goals to fulfill…& accomplish! The heart is gone at his age to “FIGHT…JUST FIGHT”, the man’s got 4 children, attempting to be president…not fight!
Manny should retire…there is literally no more he can do in boxing!
JMM’s fans will say that JMM beat Pac three times although Jmm has NEVER made Pac kiss the canvas while Pac knocked him down 4 times and LITERALLY TOOK JMM’s belt from him in 2008.
JMM had his chance in 2011 and FAILED to hurt Pac once again.
JMM – Swollen right eye resulting from a Pac punch.
PAC – Cut above right eye resulting from a head butt.
WHO hurt whom again? LMFAO
Quit cryin Marquez fans and take it on the chin like REAL MEN. P u s s i e s.
Robbery…f.u.c.k. paqcuiao and anybody behind him marquez beat the s.h.i.t. out of him had him confused the whole fight even after the fight
i want to see what floyd has to say about this mess!!!…hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhaahhahaah u pendientes!!!!
both little manny and little floyd have tarnished legacies, Marquez has the respect and admiration of real boxing fans. He will be remembered for being one of the greatest to ever box.
lol Pinoys just full of butthurt right now.
lmao.
You all know i hate this noy noy mmidggets but to be real, if you want to ddethrronne someone or take his belt, you dont fight like a coward and use a “counterpuncher” style as an excuse.
You want to take that belt, you have to fight like you want to take that belt and take chances. You give it all you’ve got and win by knock out instead of trying to win by points.
Its easy to land a punch on Pacquiao coz he’s the aggressive one.
What fight were you watching? Both fighters did a great job and a majority decision was reached. No one was robbed. Accept the loss and move on. Pacquiao won a close fight period. Marquez didn’t do enough to win…hell he held back towards the end coz his trainer told him he was winning. Dumb move coz the fight was too close to believe those kind of comments. If anything he caused his fighter to lose. End of story!!! Manny won!!! Deal with it!
You all know i hate this noy noy midgets but to be real, if you want to dethrone someone or take his belt, you dont fight like a coward and use a “counterpuncher” style as an excuse.
You want to take that belt, you have to fight like you want to take that belt and take chances. You give it all you’ve got and win by knock out instead of trying to win by points.
Its easy to land a punch on Pacquiao coz he’s the aggressive one.
@Thagoods…
You wanna know why Pac won the second fight despite landing less punches than Marquez? Because he made JMM KISS THE CANVAS dude. Wake up.
A challenger has TO TAKE THE BELT AWAY from the champion. ANd in this sport, no punch makes more of a statement than a knockdown or knockout punch. And this is what Pac has done to Marquez in their first two fights.
In this fight, JMM FAILED to make Pac kiss the canvas. And Pac landed more punches. So therefore, Pac wins.
And Pac made JMM’s right eye swollen as a result of Pac’s left power shots. Pac’s cut above his right eye was a result of a headbutt, not a punch. Pac had a cut lip, that’s it. Any more questions buddy? I’ll gladly answer it so your head can be cleared of all doubt.
they could give manny all the drugs fight night Floyd aint got a thing to worry about.
@chino
Then go ahead and call Mayweather and convince him to fight Pacquiao. Sounds like an easy fight for him.
Floyd don’t have to worry about a drug now. He should take the fight ASAP.
@ Hears the Thing…let’s be BRUTALLY HONEST!
Manny hasn’t the stomach for a fight anymore….I’ve studied every sliver against Clottey where he was possessed with 1300 punches, 6 months later against Margarito & politics….he had lost that “edge”!
Who can blame him…he’s thinking of “ending poverty”, not fighting coming up to 33! I just hope he now retires to preserve his legacy…
The man is A F**KING LEGEND OF THE RING…always will be!
i think that the fight should have been a draw…JMM didnt win, PACMAN didnt win either.. its my opinion.. =)
116 to 112? Shame on those corrupt judges!
this is the fighter who wants to beat floyd mayweather? the master of defense? no chanse for manny.. amazing defense for marquez.. floyd easy win agains pacquiao
YESTERDAY: ” I BEAT PACQUIAO TWICE.”
TODAY: ” I BEAT PACQUIAO THRICE.”
I think this the new statement of JMM.
For me, I think MP really won the fight.
If JMM really wants to overcome MP he needs to prove it atleast 1 knock down to MP. But what he did is, just wait to counter. But I really admit that MP won not SO convincing.
He need more practice to face FM jr.
my a..ss hurts it feels lke some one just rammed a huge i mean huge cooco in it…love u judges,uncle and mayflower
LOL he should rematch JMM and avoid Floyd because Mayweather would put this worthless Filipino hypejob to sleep.
On another note…those of you here know I’m a fan of Pacquiao but as the old cliche goes “I’m a fan of boxing”. been one for 30 years strong.
I will say this:
1) I was disappointed in Pac’s performance tonight. BIG TIME. Maybe this is a product of the hype that’s been built on this man (for which we can’t blame Manny however) for the last three years. Fans get spoiled, therefore fans build high expectations.
2) For all the work I’ve seen him do in the gym the last couple years, I’m scratching my head in bewilderment as to how Manny still can’t solve the marquez puzzle. I’m going to have to talk to Freddie because Freddie had no idea tonight on how to instruct Manny to make adjustments.
3) Freddie was lost. Pac was FRUSTRATED the entire fight. It was ONLY BUBOY who brought his A-Game. And that’s real talk folks.
I’m glad this happened. Because for one thing, the fight with Floyd will now come to fruition. I’m sure whatever doubts Floyd or his team had about Manny’s supposed invincibility, they’ve now been erased. I still say Pac beats Floyd. But if he fights like he did tonight, Floyd will pick him apart. I have the utmost confidence in Pacquiao that he will LEARN from this experience and most importantly, Roach will have seen a weakness in Manny’s performance and make the proper adjustments next training camp. I’ve got to send Roach a message.
Real Stuff How Can a Fan of Boxing Really watch this Fight and Say Manny won??
Marquez Landed the More Clean Effective Punches the Whole Night..
Even many Looked Surprise when the Judges Gave him the Fight!!!
This is Pure Robbery!!! (FACT) watch this Fight again and Turn off the Volume and Score the fight) No Way Pac Won!!!!
Yes fight was too close… may be marquez outbox pacman but this game is not won by outbox.. it is won and earn every round…some round went to marquez but more rounds won by pacman… May be you just expect too much from pacman but in reality pacman really won by point on rounds…Some were prostrated on the result because it was not very convincing victory for the pacman… My final word.. IT DESERVE ONE MORE SERVING may be mid next year…
Everyone, calm the f**k down! Marquez landed the more effective shots, BUT….he didn’t land enough. If you know you’re boxing, the aggressor, in the judges eye will ALWAYS, I repeat will ALWAYS be the victor. FACT
Nacho actually did Marquez a dis-service by telling him that he’s ahead on points. It could have been a motivational intent, but surely it backfired. Marquez was waaayyy too careful in the championship rounds.
But I must admit, pacquiao and marquez 6-packs are very attractive which is the highlight of that match for me. You gotta love guys with physique like that.
116 -112 ? WTF marquez got robbed again! He landed more combinations than pacquiao counting punching pacquiao the whole fight. I saw marquez winning this fight just like the other ones but I knew this was gonna happen for one reason pacquiao is cow cash Losin to marquez woulda b the end of pacquiao vs mayweather megafight ! Now pacquiaos fans ya saw how marquez was able to counter punch hem the whole fight exposing hem badly !! imagine if he ever squares wid mayweather whos way faster than marquez ? Ohh boy i see. Mayweather schoolin hem for 12 rounds !
Marquez easily won 9 rounds to 3 rounds… robbery!
Can’t believe I missed the UFC Heavyweight Championship fight to watch a masterpiece by Marquez that wasn’t appreciated by the judges.
A lot of people in this blog are sore losers. This is a majority decision for Pac and losers can cry aloud and loss sleep but Pac won, I repeat, a majority decison, meaning a clear win. Even compubox shows a wide margin on the punch stat. So to the losers, my message to you is: Accept with dignity that Pac won, I rest my case.
jmm es la mera verga del boxeo actual…..u fools..hahahahahahahaha he just made ur boy look like sssssssshhhhhhhhhh
After this fight marquez has solidified his legacy, he is one of the greatest boxers to ever fight in the ring, he beat down the supposed p4p king three times. Marquez made pac look like an amateur. I think pacquiao is done he might retire.
Im Latin and my name is Manny. I was open to whoever was a better man tonight. And although Marquez did waaaayyyy better than I expected a 38 year old against a much improved since they last fought Pacquiao, he didn’t do enough to take the belt. If he would of initiated more action rather than countered for the majority of the fight. Pacquiao backed him up 75% of the fight at least, started the flurries and although Marquez countered marvelously then Manny also countered Marquez’ counters. Also I believe that if Marquez would if started some brawls he would of either pulled out a historic win or gotten knocked out for trying. I would of taken either of those 2 results over just looking good countering and leaving your destiny in the hands of the judges, you figured after 2 previous fights, judges like pacquiaos aggression and balls over Marquez’ brains. great fight regardless of who won I love them both as they each have great merit…
Highway robbery!
It’s a damn shame. Marquez won the fight. Who cares about Mayweather and Pacquoi….. I was a huge boxing fan, but lately, it’s damn shame….
If Manny didn’t hurt JMM like you whiners say, then how come JMM’s right eye was swollen big time while Manny’s right eye was CLEARLY caused by a headbutt?
Quit cryin’ haters. Stop stoopin’ to the level of JMM. JMM is a sore loser. He can’t accept defeat LIKE A MAN. And I shouted that out to him on his way back to the locker room tonight.
PUNCH STATS ALL REVEALED that Pac landed more punches, more power shots, and more jabs, and at a higher percentage.
In 2008, Pac won because HE TOOK THE BELT from the champion Marquez. He knocked him down. If JMM wanted to win this fight, he should’ve fought like A MAN and made Pac kiss the canvas. But we all know he can’t and will NEVER do it.
QUIT CRYIN’ HATERS and take defeat on the chin like a real man.
you said:
i like pacquaio i thought he would win but he lost and if anybody thinks he won they dont know how to score a fight
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i say:
ahh, so you know how to score a boxing match. explain to us all how you could have scored the fight. LMFAO?
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lol, if you think this is bad, wait until they release the new P4P ratings and Floyd moves back to #1.
Oh the cries of the Noy Noy nation.
lmao.
@Filipinos love Japanese Chin Nuts_ of course you got lots of people cheering for an MD face it. HE still lost! He’s got his whole country still on his side! your just another crybaby!!!
So to sum up the final fight with Marquez and Pacquiao:
- Marquez out lands Pacquiao in total punches through the first two fights and loses to Pacquiao. However, tonight Pacquiao lands more punches and is considered the more effective boxer, even though he is less accurate.
- How can Marquez get a win against him? He stayed on his feet and out boxed Pacquiao for 12 more rounds.
- Pacquaio was out of control and had difficulty landing clean effective shots the whole night.
This seems like a conspiracy. I wonder what Bob Arum is doing to influence the judges.
u fools! the only thing u haters see r marquez landing shots on mp. but yall are so in denial to see that pacs are doing the same thig and more.
also yall m o r o n s dont understand the style of counter punching. a counter puncher just waits for his opponent to punch so they could see an open target. if pacquiao decided to do the same style as counter puncher, what do you think would have happened in this fight?
so someone has to have the balls to initiate the exchange and jmm aint doing that coz he’s afraid to be the one to offer an open shot.
how many times did u see jmm initiate the exchange? one or two. coz hes scared.
i like pacquaio i thought he would win but he lost and if anybody thinks he won they dont know how to score a fight
marquez got robbed
Dude I can’t believe, so many boxing fans are behind the decision. Marquez landed the more effective punches and made Manny look bad (I Mean real bad). At Best… AT BEST…. Maybe you could be such a huge pacman fan, that you could argue draw…. but 116-112? GTFO!!! Boxing makes me sad. Paul Williams stole a decision a while back and now Pac has done the same. I know people want to see Pac vs. Mayweather, but not common not like this. The better fighter should win, if you look at Pac after the fight you can tell he knew he had lost, heck his corner knew he needed a KO. I feel bad for all of you making these condescending arguments that Pac was just playing Possum to score a fight with Mayweather. SMH, Boxing deserves better than this. Honestly Pac/Arum and Mayweather have both been acting like clowns in making a fight happen. They deserved to have it all blow up in their face, but I guess money talks. Sad day for people who truly love the sport of boxing imo.
LOL, exactly.
Catchweight Queen barely managed a MD against a lightweight who drinks his own p1ss.
bwahahaha.
manny and mayweather are both clowns who ruined the sport. who cares who wins when they fight, the way Marquez looked tonight mayweather wants none of Marquez.
Lets face it Bob Arum ruined boxing.
Marquez could’ve won the fight if he was more aggressive but he didn’t coz his corner was telling him that he was already leading the scores.Anyway, a win is a win, he had another chance but didn’t do enough to take it.
@lou_u thought wrong dudens!!!!1
@Filipinos love Japanese Chin Nuts So Wheres the win URINE DRINKER?!!!
I thought Pacquiao improved but after watching this fight his opponents were carefully chosen, I thought Manny would beat Mayweather but after today I doubt it.
filipino hostage taker was involved in this robbery..hohohohohohohohohoh
Ahhhhh my GOD,when people tell you that Pacquiao isnt a true boxer,all his fans dont believe to that,but last night everybody
saw clearly that the midget is a pure farce.Did you see how limited was the midget?Can truly people call him pound for pound?Arum knows why he refuses to fight the midget against Mayweather.Marquez outboxed him all night,at the end,they give
victory to the midget.
Imagine a Floyd against Pac last night?I think that it’s time for Arum to make this fight,cause it’s almost Pac’s end.
Mayweather by late stoppage.
lmao.
Filipino Catchweight Coward squeaked out a MD against a LIGHTWEIGHT.
I can’t wait for the excuses the Phagtards come up for this one.
Were his socks too tight again? lol.
This fight ruined boxing, boxing is dead, that decision was a total farce. all the little pac and floyd fans take it the sport is yours. Marquez you beat down manny 3 times you are one of the greatest boxers to ever lace up the gloves. Respect to Marquez.
floyd is way to skilled trust me on this one
only in las vergas!!!…bwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha
Pacquiao has thrown 578 punches connecting 176 while Marquez had it 436 connecting 138. Pacquiao threw 304 jabs connecting 59 to Marquez’s 182 with 38 connects. Pacquiao threw 274 power punches connecting 117 while Marquez threw 254 with 100 connecting
Have you ever thought that maybe manny didn’t want to ko jmm because if he did there would no way be a mayweather fight? Now may might find PAC to not be as hard as a fight. Or is manny playing possum so mayweather takes the fight and the real manny comes out to play
So where was that 1st round KO?
LMAO.
Floyd would slaughter that Pinoy dogeater.
@ano__wtf did marques do???…..hahahaha dude he counter punched and also humilliiated the so called pound per pound best in the orbe….isnt that enough??…..
jmm also known as “counter punch master”…dam robbery!!!
Hahaha haters in the house. Yo boring fight but the decision was right. WTF did Marquez do. Not to mention Nacho telling his fighter he is winning the fight. Horrible. If he wouldve told Marquez that who knows Marquez maybe couldve ended up ko ing pacquiao. But for all u cry babies stfu look at that fools face. Pacquaio had a cut by a headbutt
What a shame for the sport I once love and now shows it’s @ss
HAD THE JUDGES GIVEN JMM THE WIN..THE MAYFLOWER FIGHT WOULD HAV DISPOSED…SO UNCLE BOB PAYED THE JUDGES…ANYONE THINKS DEFFERENT ITS CAUSE THEY HAVE BRAIN DAMAGE
Manny is the champ,Marquez is chalenger he should be aggresive to fight or knocking out the champ but theres no chance for him,so result is still the champ is win thats the essence of boxing…
Welcome to “WORLD BOXING ENTERTAINMENT”! at least now we know where boxing has come into. Marquez lost but everybody knew he clearly won that one. Looking back, Floyd needed not to cheap shot Ortiz if he wasn’t that stupid. He could have simply waited for the last bell and then wait for the UD in his favor. but as they say, that”s history.
Both Pacquiao and Marquez can now retire albeit in peace. Let’s say goodbye to boxing and hello to what?? MMA???
i thought that justine beiber won the fight…..
these two idiots can easily beat by him…
justine is the no.1 pound for pound…
and mrs.dionisia is the queen…
As much as I love Pacman and thought he’d win this fight easily, I saw JMM winning it. JMM’s counter-punching ability was a problem for Pacman, and Pacman didn’t show much of his punching combinations and was clearly cautious to get countered. But as it goes, the man who landed more punches gets the win, even if it means they’re not as effective as the counter-punches. Pacman was obviously frustrated (notice the Kellerman interview where he usually smiles and looks cheerful), and I feel bad for JMM. Terrific fight nonetheless.
I think Pacquiao out punch Marquez, but I admit that he can win the fight if he was active in 11 and 12 round. No rematch for Marquez, I’m tired of it. I want Mayweather next or I won’t buy PPV anymore.
Pacman won, Marquez once again thinks he won..
not just hallucinating, but also not a good sport..
he should retire..
i had it tied, but manny definitely got schooled, he look ordinary, definitely wont beat FMjr.
First of all I am not a Mexican nor am I a pinoy . JMM was robbed big time . As a hard boxing fan it was a draw or JMM by points . Manny did not hurt JMM a bit and the power punches we
re landed by JMM . Manny was gifted this win due to his status and Bob’s influence .
what a joke! this was a fixed fight, marquez would only win by ko. manny is a reckless fighter in offence, mayweather would knock him out,lets be real people. pacquaio is too wild.
the judges don’t like marquez’ style, always stepping back just waiting for pac.. i have pac winning rounds 1,2, 9 to 12 and atleast a rd from 3 to 8. pac won 7 rds..
Look I personally feel this was a robbery…Or if not they could of busted out another draw not the Majority decision win for Pacman. Although the fight was BS. i wanna see Mayweather vs Pacman
I also notice why pacman wear a doll shoe?
Highway Robbery what happened to Marquez this fight was fixed from the begging. Manny,Roach, and Bob all know they didn’t win that fight even pacman fans told me at the fight this time Marquez won easy 9rounds to 3 rounds. I’ll be nice cause they had an even rd 17 punches each. 8rds marquez 3 rds manny 1 even.
What a SHAME FOR BOXING ??? What on earth is going on with this industry?? Obviously, now I understand why these mafia-like rulers of this sport are so angry with Floyd Mayweather, as he tries to clean this sport!! They don’t seem to do anything honstly!! Pacquiao was outboxed by Marquez tonight, and still the latest could not get the decision!! I guess if the have not yet been able to rob Floyd, is just because that guy completely destroys his opponents… Tonight, it was a SHAM…
Also, for me there is a prsumption that they are so desperate to make big money and revive the sport by getting Many to face Mayweather, so taking this victory from Many, would destroy any chance of this so called mega-fight happening… But based on what every boxing fan including myself, has seen tonight.. THERE IS NOWAY Many can beat Floyd, NO CHANCE!!!
Marquez cannot get the belt or be the pound for pound by decision if he wants to be the champion he needs to KO pacman, he cannot just wait and counter and win points that’s the fact he does not fight pacman he just wait, a KO will settle this
marquez got rob one more time
HERES A QUESTION FOR BOB ARUM. WHY GRANT A REMATCH SO SOON IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE MANNY WON THE FIGHT? MAYBE, OUT OF SHAME AND TO SAVE PACMANS IMAGE?
Honestly I dont see how anyone can watch this fight and give it to PAc..I’m asking all Boxing Fans to watch the whole fight over again and Mute the Volume…Marquez Tagged Pac Clean and stopped him in his tracks all Night Marquez even Hurt Pac a few times…
do you all think marquez got robbed? he leaded the fight in punching stats, which is usually the main cause for someone winning..i do agree that marquez won 4 or 5 rounds, but pacquiao was to aggressive for marquez, although i will ag ree with pacquiao goes into the mayweather fight like that, he will have no chance!!
sorry late night here and i am slightly angry…
“who WON”
@dp so who one the first two fights? clearly you don’t know boxing…..Marquez robbed again
MARQUEZ IS A TRUE CHAMPION!!!
marquez won the fight end of! Mayweather will destory Manny !
SMDH! Who thing Pacquiao can beat Floyd again??
I think any true boxing fan would have a hard time seeing how Pac would actually beat Floyd.
pac isnt ready for mayweather…………. so lets leave it at that. that fight should have been a draw or a victory for marquez……… point blank……..
I’LL DESTROY THE PAC MAN !!!
compubox says paquiao wins! sorry it was close but Pacman won. Part 4 on May 5th!
someone got robbed !!!
God save Packroid:
Marquez is scooling the RoidMan.
bradley is still cream of the crop.
whose winning between Pacquiao and Marquez, any chance for Marquez?
Who won?
Does Khan still have to fight Prescott? How many does Prescott have to lose to end that narrative?
who is winning as of right now…is marquez winning or falling down already?