De La Hoya: Canelo vs. Chavez Jr. only at 156 lbs

By Chris Williams: If Top Rank promoter Bob Arum and his fighter WBC middleweight champion Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (44-0-1, 31 KO’s) want a piece of WBC junior middleweight champion Saul Alvarez (38-0-1, 28 KO’s) next year it’s going to have to occur at a catch weight of 156 pounds, says Oscar De La Hoya of Golden Boy Promotions. Speaking on twitter, De La Hoya said “Only if it’s 156.”

That certainly makes sense because Alvarez is only 5’9” compared to the 6’0” Chavez Jr., and Alvarez doesn’t come into his fights weighing anywhere near as much as Chavez Jr. does. I’m not sure how much Chavez Jr. weighed last night in beating challenger Peter Manfredo Jr. by a 5th round stoppage, but my guess is Chavez Jr. looked to be at least 170 lbs at the minimum. In his fight before this one, he scaled 180 lbs the night of his fight with Sebastian Zbik last June. I don’t think Chavez Jr. came in as heavy last night, but he still looked like a huge 170. You can’t have Alvarez facing a guy that big unless you’ve got a catch weight to even things up a little.

Chavez Jr. changed his game around completely last night, showing a lot of movement in the first four rounds before he started to tire in the 4th. The movement pretty much stopped in the 4th, as Chavez Jr. became more stationary and started to mix it up. He got hit with a few really good shots from Manfredo in that round and showed some really poor defense. I gave that round to Manfredo. In the 5th, Chavez Jr. nailed Manfredo with a right hook while he was coming forward. The shot staggered Manfredo, causing him to back up against the ropes. Chavez Jr. then went after him and landed a flurry until referee Lawrence Cole halted the fight just at the moment that Manfredo finally started to clinch. I thought it was a bad stoppage but it really didn’t matter much. Manfredo Jr. was going to lose the fight anyway, as he wasn’t throwing enough punches and just looked slow.

The win puts Chavez Jr. and his promoter Arum in a bind. They can’t keep facing B level fighters like Manfredo Jr. because the WBC supposedly told Sergio Martinez that he’ll be facing Chavez Jr. next. I seriously doubt that’s going to happen, because Chavez Jr. will be destroyed by Martinez. However, Chavez Jr. is going to have to fight someone good like Alvarez or Marco Antonio Rubio. Those guys would be a lot of trouble for Chavez Jr., even with his new style of fighting. He can’t circle the ring for 12 round continuous rounds without exhausting himself, and his defense is just as horrible as it’s always been. We already saw that Chavez Jr. was running out of gas against the B level Manfredo last night. Can you imagine what would have to Chavez against someone that actually punches back at him with good power? I don’t think Chavez Jr. would finish on his feet against either Alvarez or Rubio, and Martinez would annihilate him. Like I said, Arum and Chavez Jr. are kind of in a bind right now unless they can convince the WBC to allow for another opponent in the same quality range as Manfredo. I don’t know how long Chavez Jr. can be maneuvered around the better fighters without it becoming a total joke. Guys like Peter Quillin, Andy Lee, Rubio and Matthew Macklin can’t be avoided forever, and neither can Martinez. If I’m Arum, I’d do anything possible to get Chavez Jr. the fight with Alvarez so that I could cash out before Chavez Jr. gets beaten by one of the better middleweights in the division. Once he’s beaten, his earning potential will likely drop thereafter. That’s why you’ve got to get Chavez Jr. in against the biggest name possible before he’s whipped by a good fighter. He’s fought pretty much exclusively B level fighters his entire career and he’s got to fight the best fighter possible before he’s destroyed.

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17 Responses to “De La Hoya: Canelo vs. Chavez Jr. only at 156 lbs”

  • Just a fan says:

    If these two were to fight i do belive that canelo would win because hes just the better boxer. He punches harder hes faster he knows how to move. Chavez jr is just way to over rated just because of who hes dad is if it wasnt for who hes dad is this guy wouldnt be anything in boxing

  • alberto says:

    Time for Chavez Jr to face El Veneno Rubio. This match has to happen on 2012. Otherwise, ageing might catch up with el Veneno. He would be the 2nd smartest boxer Chavez would face. (we know Zbik got robbed a la Marquez). Key difference…el Veneno does slowly wear down his opponents.

  • filipino food is dogsh1t says:

    lol, 156?

    Chavez Jr. has a hard time making 160 without cheating using sh1t like Furosemide.

    This overrated hypejob needs to step up and let Sergio Martinez just brutally KO him already.

  • Whey Protein says:

    @Olbermann Thats just my point of view. I didn’t say this was about Basketball or about BodyBuilding. I just can’t see Canelo taking a good shot in the jaw by a MiddleWeight, or a JuniorMiddleWeight. Chavezjr by ko if they ever fight.

  • Olbermann says:

    hey whey protein this is not a basketball game or a bodybuilding contest, chavez jr’s father is 5 ’7 and he was one of the greatest of all time, chavez is a fraud and a complete joke he has not fought one single punching bag with any knock out power! and he never will, he is pathetic. Canelol got to were he is at by sure tallent and lot’s of good oposition.

  • Whey Protein says:

    I’m not Mexican but Chavez Jr would beat Canelo Alvarez really easy. Chavez Jr finally learned how to used his height to his advantage.

  • Olbermann says:

    Canelo is 10times the fighter and what seperates canelo from chavez jr is that canelo got to were he is at by knocking guys out and with heart , while fraudelent chavez jr got to were he is at by his father a lot of favors owed to chavez senior and a lot of bribe money and manipulation of rankings of his boyfriend bob arum.

  • Olbermann says:

    If his drug addict father had any common sense he would have hired Nacho Barenstein not Roach, I mean how they hell do these two clowns communicate these “Naco” chavez some how never learned English even after his father had money and Roach speaks a new language with his desease, Lol LOL LOL LOL circus oley both are a joke

  • bgblu73 says:

    everything you said is all true ,chavez is a maniquin getting nothing but trash fighters but here come the the cavalry with nothing but talent .he better catch that fight with alvarez and after he gets beat go adios cause his just a pulicity stunt.

  • Olbermann says:

    chavez jr is a complete fraudand a joke he is 26 years old and has fought obsoulutely nobodie his father was champion of the world at 21, he has zero punching power and a questionable chin! this fool reminds me of baby huey! he didn’t inherit any of his father’s genes what a shame

  • Al says:

    @ paclander carefull here comes marquez

  • Paclander4life says:

    Pacquiao would murder these 2 bums.

  • Carlos Gomez says:

    Bunch of idiots chavez will beat the hell of alvarez with out of doutb .the only man who can beat chavez is martinez and chavez looks great last nigth he never get tired like the idiot who wrote this articule.

  • Eastside boxing .com says:

    Big nose = big puff D’real big puff……. @?ussy hoIe your aunt gotta say that to make your sorry azz feel little better … Lool

  • Patrick says:

    Canelo will stop Chavez Jr. I say in less than 8 rounds.

  • BIG NOSE.(D'real Big Nose).... says:

    Like my aunt says ‘lets hope the ugly boxer wins’.lol!

  • Anti hater phaser says:

    Arum isnt in a bind. He just going to nickle and dime the Mexican people just like he does the Fillipino people. Arum is a joke. Only casual fans follow Arums circus.

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