Pacquiao and Mayweather continue to play mind games
September 21st, 2011
By John F. McKenna (McJack): World Boxing Organization (WBO) welterweight champion Manny “Pacman” Pacquiao (53-3-2, 38 KO’s) and newly crowned World Boxing Council (WBC) welterweight titlist Floyd “Money” Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26 KO’s) continue to play their nonsensical mind games with each other.
Both Pacquiao and Mayweather are in a media war in their attempts to psych each other out and outdo one another regarding any possible match up between the two. Manny let it be known a couple of weeks ago that his legacy was secure and he really does not need Floyd Mayweather Jr. After all the argument goes, Pacquiao has won championship belts in eight weight divisions in addition to his fighter of the year and fighter of the decade awards. On top of that Manny is considered by most to be the best Pound for Pound fighter in the world. Pacquiao and his multitude of supporters reason that Manny has accomplished more than he had ever hoped to when he embarked on his boxing career and therefore does not need Floyd Mayweather Jr. to secure his legacy.
Not to be outdone Mayweather fired back his own salvo immediately after his KO of the badly overmatched Victor Ortiz. Floyd went into another of his rants in attempting to explain why he does not need to fight Manny Pacquiao. “Money” wound up going on the attack against Pacquiao and as is normally the case when talking to the media about Manny implied that he uses or has used performance enhancing drugs (PEDS). The Mayweather logic is that Manny could not have gone from 108 pounds early in his career to where he fights now at 144 pounds. Mayweather strongly implies that without PEDS Pacquiao could not have won titles in eight weight divisions and beat fighters who are typically taller and bigger than he is.
Essentially whether he realized it or not, Floyd spent ten minutes making excuses as to why he will not fight Manny Pacquiao. The mind games that go on between Pacquiao and Mayweather almost appear to be scripted. The script from both camps borders on the ridiculous. Both Pacquiao and Mayweather routinely make comments to the press stating that they do not need each other, apparently in an effort to smoke out the other side.
Top Rank CEO Bob Arum has even become involved. Recently Arum said that the Pacquiao camp would not chase after Mayweather, after which the boxing world waited for the other shoe to drop when Floyd fired back with his own salvo. Stay tuned, the game being played by the Pacquiao and Mayweather camps is called “Mind Games 101”.
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The scared and coward Floyd Jr is a big insult and shame to the american people.Bwahahahahahaha!
The scared and coward Floyd Jr is a pure liar.Bwahahahaha!
The scare and coward Floyd Jr is a joke.Bwahahahaha!
you must be out of your mind a house cant be paid by him. thousand of sponsors are dying to get pacman on there commercial.a house that coz husdred of thousand or a million the most cant be paid by a boxer earning morethan 20 million a fight.if thats the case the house must worth hundred millions of dollars right…tupid
dude this boxers earning millions in minutes and not likely us working on a hourly basis. stop commenting about there finances coz they are million time richer than us. u cannot tell them there broke coz we are much broke than them.
most asean know how to handle there finances specially when you atarted poor or from rugs to riches. i think mayweather is more broke coz he dont know how to handle his finances…burning money showing off…thats what a fancy stupid guy do.
Search “Manny Many Prizes”
Bleacher Report’s interview with Freddy Roach.
VisionQwest’s press release detailing all his finances (or lack of).
You still think I’m joking?
LMAO.
mayweather fans dont seem to get boxing either. they keep talking about what pacman didn 6 years ago. did you know duane bobick knocked out larry holmes in the amatuers? so what? pacman is a much much better fighter. mayweather is not as good as he once was. it was apparent from his fight with oscar, that if they have met in their prime oscar would have won. i found that shocking…
in reality mayweather fans are as afraid of pacman as he is, they make endless excuses about peds. mayweather will win easily, but they dont want him to fight….make sense? pacman agreed to the test a year ago. mayweather still doesnt want to fight.
Don’t Test Me, Bro – your joking right?
Floyd is scared, no money can fix that. And he earned between $25M to $40M against Ortiz so why lose that easy bundle on Pacman?
Well said SLY
Has every Mayweather fan forgotten “TAKE THE TEST, TAKE THE TEST”? Pacquiao has given in…Olympic style testing with NO CUTOFF DATE. People crucified Pacquiao for not taking the test…People will now crucify Mayweather because he’s still not gonna fight Manny despite the fact the biggest hurdle is no longer an issue. Just as people concluded that Pacquiao must be juicing just because he didn’t take the test, people will conclude Mayweather has always been afraid.
Floyd ‘Money’ Mayweather.
Manny ‘I Need Money’ Pac-Broke.
LMAO. Dude can’t even pay the very firm he hired to audit his finances. Not only that, but VisionQwest is suing him for money THEY lent HIM to buy Koncz a house in Orange County, CA. Bwahahahah. Dude was scared to say anything because he NEEDED an ADVANCE (not the first time…) from Arum for the Marquez fight.
Tsk tsk tsk…Karma’s a b1tch, right Pinoys? All that mouthing off and sh1t talking about Floyd going broke? LMAO. Won’t be long before your little catchweight chump is back on the streets, roasting stray dogs for dinner.
neither of these mini half men floyd or paq wants the fight. why risk the loss? they make as much fighting the bums and padding their records.
@ Beego
Oh I’m sorry is “The little Guy” better ?
@ Dazed Pacquiao: You totally destroyed your credability by calling Pacquiao a midget. What a mental giant and a WUS you are.
Yesterday at “The Huffington Post” Larry Merchant said he takes nothing back that he said to Mayweather BUT he believes in a fight between Pac and Mayweather he even believes Floyd would win
Well at least it is now official that both men are saying that they don’t need the other to secure their legacy rather than people going off saying that Floyd Mayweather is avoiding Manny Pacquiao. Naturally both men are wary of the other as they are both head and shoulders above everyone else as a pound for pound best but i believe it is Bob Arum that is holding this fight from ever happening.
It is no secret that Floyd Mayweather and Bob Arum don’t like each other and i have found it to be Bob Arum who speaks about Mayweather/Pacquiao and problems between the two rather than anyone else. What i have also noticed is that Top Rank are the ones who keep berating Floyd Mayweather all the time which does nothing to help the fight happen so if it is to ever happen then Mayweather/Pacquiao needs to negotiated by themselves, it is a coin toss fight but i believe Mayweather would win because he is impossible to hit whereas Pacquiao isn’t and the style of Mayweather means he could jab and move whilst Pacquiao came charging in all the time.
Manny’s legacy is secured. He is a beast. An untested one.
How can Mayweather be scared of a midget the same height as Marquez who he STEPPED ON ALREADY..lolololol
Man I read the Article too WOW he is being raped over there at TOP RANK why is he still there that man is too nice just like Freddie Roach said. Sorry Pac-Fans but Manny better smarten up
I think to see this as some sort of fanciful psyche war between Pacquiao and Mayweather is charitable. Truth is, this has been a struggle between Bob Arum and Floyd Mayweather all along. Manny Pacquiao is a bit player, despite all of his ring prowess, is still anything but adept when it comes to handling his career. Manny is doing business with a man that’s shown time and again he can’t be trusted.
Be that as it may, Arum is running the show not Manny, let’s be clear.
I see that Ring Magazine wasted no time in ranking Floyd #2 in the p4p rankings, right behind Manny Pacquiao, who is of course #1. Poor Martinez got bumped to #3.
I was an immigrant 10 years ago and weight only 110 lbs at 5’5″, Now with all the excercise and weightlifting I went to 150 lbs. without using any drugs of any king just good eating habit. I don’t think Pac is using.
several years ago floyd say, “pacman you are next”. and the whole world rejoice because they hear want they want to hear. today floyd cant fight because of PED?
Droid c*hickenfeather is making excuses again, where was pacquio in 96,97,98,99 etc…? he wasnt even in Mayweather division.. and since then he took on legends like like morales and barrera, marquez… all in their prime. Who has Mayweather beaten? he dodged most fighters – exactly as hes dodging manny
You said Floyd spent ten minutes making excuseS. There is only one reason, power pellet popping Pacquiao refuses to agree to random drug testing. And dont go telling me what Bob Arum says they will or wont do while he is promoting the fight with Marquez. Arum cant keep Mayweather out of his mouth during these times.
@kamote, the last post from me was for you!
I think you”ve read too many stories which has gotten you so convinced that your starting to believe in that “he’s scared” drama! Many experts and myself feel, when they both fight, fmj would dominated pac because of this style! fmj is too skilled and will be countering pac all night long and eventually will ko him in the later rounds…anything can happen but likely after that night, you will be looking to jump on the newly created soccer team’s bandwagon from the philippines! Seriously though, that fight will happen!
i have a problem with pac being an 8th division champ,he didn’t even fight in the jr.middle division that night,he entered as a welter and not only that,he made the opponent come down 4 pounds..is that how you become great?
@kamote….. Manny is tailer made for floyd. And the more we see both of them fight its becoming kind of clear that floyd would destroy him.
@wizz
Is that the best rebuttal you can come up with against GEE? “You are not a fan of sport?” LMAO.. What he said was true, If Floyd was confident enough that he can beat Pacquiao then wouldnt come up with RBT demand. If your a real fighter and you believe in your skills, you would fight the man on PEDS or NOT. Deep inside floyd, Pacquiao is a threat… PAC is Floyds Kryptonite.
Pac take Damn test.
Ho-hum. This Pac Mayweather fight will never happen so somebody at this site please get rid of these damn stories and actually print some news and not writers views for a change.
Manny’s name is the one on Floyd’s tongue. He’s got a million reasons why he should or shouldn’t fight him. The bottom line is that his middle name is “Money” and that’s the one and only reason that I believe the fight WILL happen.
Do you really think Manny is afraid to fight Floyd? What could Manny have to lose? He’s already lost before, already been KO’d, and is already a billionaire in his homeland with a good chance he will end up president of the Philippines.
What does Floyd have to lose? Nothing besides his ZERO, which might mean a lot and might not. We shall see in the coming months after both fighters have their ring schedules cleared once again.
Fingers crossed that third time is a charm.
I still want the slogan for the fight to be: “BAD BLOOD”
…ryan
@Gee: you are not a true fan of the sport, but rather one who is influenced by so called boxing fans! Do me a favor and watch more fights, so you can get educated about the sport!
I watched the Press Conference after the fight and Floyd didn’t make excuses for 10 min he gave actual concrete facts about Pacquiao that everyone wants to overlook. Like Floyd said where was Pacquiao in 96,97,98,99,2000 and NOW HE IS A GOD ?
Floyd likes to hide and make excuses.
NEVER forget..when this fight were to materialise back in March 2010…ONE fighter chose to restrict the bout by initiating unsubstantiated rumours & demand laws above the commission state. COWARD….COWARD…COWARD!
Simple as….the GREATEST COWARD OF ALL TIME…get used to it!
I guess both Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier trained in the philippines because they fought in Manila. Floyds demands are soooo… G A Y LMAO
boomboombautista if you cant come up with any valid argument on what i posted then STFU.
BOB ARUM DO NOT WANT MANNY TO FIGHT MAYWEATHER PERIOD! EVEN FREDDY ROACH SAID IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR PAC MAN TO TRAIN IN THE STATES. WHATS THE DIFFRENCE BETWEEN PAC MAN TRAINING HERE VS TRAINING IN THE PHILIPPINES? IS THERE SOMETHING HES GETTING IN THE PHILIPPINES,THAT HE CANT GET IN THE STATES? AND IF HES WILLING TO BE TESTED IN THE STATES WHEN HE IS FINISH TRAINING IN THE PHILIPPINES WHATS THE PROBLEM? HEY PACQUIAO WOULD YOU PLEASE BE A MAN, AND SPEAK FOR YOURSELF AND STOP BEING SO DAMM DUMB!
its probably time for both of them to just not talk about each other. Manny wont take the test and that is his right but stop lieing to people that u agreed to them then a few months later u edmit u didnt agree to them once again sais will do tests then turns out he isnt willing to do test. Time for all partys to just move on. Manny is ok with arum stealing all his money and floyd is doing very well fighting other people.
@KAMOTE: Can you gives us your own personal opinion rather than just repeating what someone else said! lol.. C’mon my friend, you can do better than that!
Calzaghe = 46-0
Chris John = 43-0
Flyod = 42-0 (Castillo as gift descision, Ortiz cheap shot)
If Floyd and Pac don’t fight, Mayweather “0″ loss will forever be questioned as the man full of excuses who never wanted to fight the Best. COAT “Coward of all time”
Correction:
Pacquiao dumps Arum.
Pacquiao fans don’t seem to want the fight to happen. BNB said it below. The journey will be over for Pacquiao and Arum when they lose to Mayweather. There are two ways for the fight to happen. Pacquiao dumos Arum. Or Arum decides to let Pacquiao fight for his final fight in 2013. In my opinion, Pacquiao needs Mayweather more than he needs Pacquiao. Floyd can retire undefeated. There is no on out there that can beat him as a welterweight. If Pacquiao retires without fighting Floyd, people will question Pac’s record and the blood testing issue.
@BNB…. WELL SAID MY FRIEND!
im a fan of both, flyod seems to take all the flake for the fight not happening but to me he seems more interested in making it. manny seems content to hide behind public opinion and say i dont need him and bob arum makes the decisions thats bull and a cop out all he has got to do is call flyods bluff and agree to the test.which lets face it every boxer should be taking anyway were talking about someones life not a gold,silver or bronze medal here. boxing is the hardest sport and the weakest tested. i wonder how people would react if manny was demanding the test and floyd was refusing, the media would be all over him.manny is a great fighter who can do no wrong at the moment with the public opinion on his side but no one is whiter than white,every body thought oscar was back in the 90s. manny just make it happen agree to the test if flyod puts up another block then we will all know who really wanted it.
Manny is an embarrasment to all true boxing fans, because all he fights are either washed up or old fighters who were once recognized!
I wasn’t saying anything Floyd now was I? why bring him up every time pacs name is mentioned?
I wonder whom did Mayweatherher knocked out..hmmm.. Oh yeah, the the “CHEAP SHOT” KO LMAO
Pac fantasy land
Deny it as much as you want but Pacquiao is more recognized by majority than your idol. =P
How can 2 low IQ individuals play mind games?
GOAT? beating clottey, cheato, Mosley, makes you the best and not a single ko? wake up now!
Why would you need someone who doesnt wanna fight? Pacquiao has accomplished more than any boxers did. Mayweather is just one of the gifted boxer of this era nothing more. Pacquiao on the other hand is a sure HOF, GOAT.
Mayweather said it best, haters are confused fans.
Roach, Arum and Pacman know that facing the great Floyd will be the end of their journey…It will be a loss and maybe a bad one…
Even if Manny is clean is better no to take the (real random tests), so he never has to fight a truly great fighters.
Erik Morales and JMM arguably beat Pacman…what do both have in common…they can counter and box…So all these statues at Top Rank can’t be confused with real great fighters.
Nobody will ever say that Margarito, Cotto or Clottey were ever great fighters…they merely good fighters and when Pacman beat them they were already shots…to top it all up…
Why did manny fight margarito for a 154lb championship when either weren’t even ranked in the top 10 then after winning it, gives it up cuz he his excuse was that the guys were too big for him at that weight division… To add to that,Manny didn’t even make the weight limit at 148lbs…How many legitimate championships has manny actually won?…It’s obvious he’s selling out all the pinoy boxing fan wannabe’s! Atleast Nonito Donaire who is also pinoy has and will be fighting legitimate champs!
Dont blame the fighters blame BOB ARUM
if they never fight they both go out as winners. both make 25 million a fight anyway why risk losing. are you people that dumb you cannot figure that out. fight never happens not worth losing. duh?
boring now dont ya think?
Imo it would be easier if Pacquiao was not with top rank. Bob Arum is steering Pacs path. Bob and Floyd do not see eye to eye.
A pac loss would hurt bobs cash flow down the road. The fight will not happen any time soon….. Neither fighter has a whole lot of incentive to make the fight. Floyd make 10s of millions last week for fighting Ortiz. After splitting all the money with top rank would he do that much better?