Ortiz: It was unfair what happened to me; I want a rematch against Mayweather
September 22nd, 2011
By Dan Ambrose: Former WBC welterweight champion Victor Ortiz (29-3-2, 22 KO’s) is finally opening his mouth to complain about his controversial 4th round stoppage loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26 KO’s) last weekend in Las Vegas, Nevada. Ortiz was clobbered twice by Mayweather after dropping his hands to apologize for headbutting him.
This is what I thought happened. Since referee Joe Cortez had taken his eyes of the two boxers and had turned his body to face the ringside timekeeper, it left Ortiz unsure of whether the action his truly been restarted. This is the reason why Ortiz chose to look at Cortez after Ortiz was hit with Mayweather’s first shot, a left hook. Unfortunately, Cortez was still not looking at the action even after Ortiz was clobbered with a left hook. Given that Cortez says that he had told the fighters “Let’s go,” he should have been looking at the action instead of at the timekeeper for such a long time.
Ortiz wants the rematch with Mayweather but the chances are probably remote of that happening. Mayweather will likely want to fight Amir Khan next or another top contender. There’s a lot of money in a fight against Khan.
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If Victor wants a rematch he should beat Berto and Khan cause sane people dont wanna see a rematch. For what?
@Urg & Chen-Zen…..Yo thanks Urg for clearing that up and I’m sorry Chen if I affended you but that the point I was trying to make as far as the language barrier between the two. You must understand that promoters such as Arum and King has been robbing fighters for atleast 40 years. These guys are con men. If they see that a guy(boxer) who’s not that smart when it comes to his business, then they skim all the fat and most of the meat(money) off of the bones. What’s left for the fighter is basically about 40 percent of their actual purse but in turn the FIGHTER has to pay about 10 percent to the trainer, then taxes and other necessities. Why do you think that De La Hoya and Floyd left this crook. And look at De La Hoya and Floyd now……..BOTH ARE PAID and FLOYD GETS PAID WELL, 25-40 mill per fight! FACT!
Sorry about that. I myself not a native english as well.
Thanks Urg.
a rematch? both of you dont even deserve to get paid, both of you are shame in boxing!
@Chen-zen – Chen, kken wasn’t trying to be offensive. He was just pointing out that the language barrier has represented a problem for Manny to establish the upper hand in his relationship with Arum…
@kken
Pacman is not a native english explains why he can’t speak fluently. At least he is trying.
Are you able to speak Filipino language?
@Urg……..Yeah Urg but the difference is Holmes had street smarts too and that toughness to say, wait a minute MOFO where is my cheese…..GIVE ME MY MONEY OR SOMEBODY GONNA GET KILLED! Arum & King knew to not play Larry about his dough. Pac can’t speak a lick of english and just put all his trust in the old crook ARUM!
Ortiz kinda has a good point except he forgot to mention the fact that none of that would have happened if he didn’t headbutt FM. Ortiz is a young good fighter and Floyd said it perfect about Ortiz ” He will have his chance one day but not with me”. I’m sure Ortiz likes his biggest pay day against Floyd and that could be why he wants a rematch?I don’t think that will happen. Floyd should fight Pac or the winner of Cotto/ Margarito. In my opinion they will all be very easy fights for Floyd but will be good for boxing and the fans.
@Get you
I understand that it is true that finance is the reason these people go to boxing. But to say focus more on their finance issues rather than the fighters themselves is according to me is not how it should be.
That is how I understand your previous post, and if you meant otherwise then that I might have missed.
@Sprite, many boxers continue boxing due to their finances, holyfield, roy jones to name a few. finances and this sport is a marriage, one kinda goes directly with the other, remember it was pac who all of a sudden via arum demanded more money for a minute there. So finances is key to this event.
@Sprite so lets talk boxing… Trevor Graham is the reason Arum refuse to let pac take the test.
@Get your
“Floyd who talk trash to the dude, or Arum who completely took advantage and robbed the man.”
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Floyd vs Pac is about boxing, Arum vs Pac is about finances. I think its nothing but normal to talk about the first one in this forum, after all this is boxingnews. Agree?
Rematch? And see another HEADBUTT and a CHEAP SHOT?
NOW WAY!
Breaking news!
Pacquiao’s next concert “somtimes when we touch” would be on HBO PPV next month. And there would be a 24/7 LOL
It’s pretty sad that Arum has taken complete advantage of Pac. But what’s even sadder is when people in this forum continually express hatred towards Floyd. I mean seriously, who is worse? Floyd who talk trash to the dude, or Arum who completely took advantage and robbed the man. I think the native people are expressing hatred towards the wrong person. Arum has completely robbed and tricked their most popular and famous star in their history. Forget Floyd, ya’ll need to be highly upset with Arum, Koncz and Top Rank.
Funniest thing is Pacquiao’s stupid singing career generates more money than Mayweather fights.
@kken – So was Larry Holmes, and he’s a very successful businessman. He pretty much owns half of Easton, PA. Pac brought this upon himself.
@mike weeeeeeeeeeeee????
Pacquiao game plan.1 perfomance inhancment up until 5 weeks of the fight get tested come back negative 2. take tastosterone up until 2 weeks of the fight take test before fight come back negative and still LOSE to Mayweather
Rematch? No way. Why give Ortiz another 6-digit pay once more? He blew his chances and must work again from scratch. And for Floyd, why give him a free ride to another excuse of not fighting Pacquiao and extend his 43-0 by giving him a sure, easy win in a rematch with Ortiz? It’s not fair to boxing.
Rematch!! Give me a break. I am not a Floyd fan at all, but Victor Ortiz was very disapointing. No rematch please Victor had his shot and blew it.
@Urg…..great comeback! LOL, yeah I think kamote just wakes up sometimes from his dreams and makes things up to satify himself because he hates Floyd.
@FORGOOD…..and if this is true(which it is not) he learned from people who look like you peckerwood…..Kr a c ker!! You cheated for years.
@kken – Yeah, it was hilarious. When you run out of arguments you start saying random stuff. Now as to my man kAMOTE, he better know that “camote” in Spanish means someone who’s up someone else’s rear end. Given he hates Floyd so much, guess who’s rear he’s deep in?
@Kamote….. Floyd’s career is going down the drain???? He’s the CASH COW of the sport skippy! Kamote are you serious?? You got this amatuer Khan who’s basically trying to call Floyd out now…….do you know why?? MONEY!! You can’t take it but Floyd is the CASH COW skippy. No boxer today generate the most money in the sport of boxing than Floyd period! And this is a fact and you know it. CASH COW!
MAYFLOWER IS A CHEATING NEGRO AND WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED AS “”THE GREATEST NEGRO CHEATER”"
@lou…..keep dreaming clown. File a protest to get Floyd’s record changed and that will make him grant Ortiz a rematch?? Say what? Huh? You idiots just wake up without thinking!
@URG & Kamote……URG you’re my boy but that s..t that Kamote asked you about what does URG mean URanGuttan, was funny as hell dude. Kamote you’re the biggest Floyd hater of all times but dude that s..t was funny!!
The figt between Pac and Floyd are millions miles apart just like the distance between the Philippines and USA. Unless Floyd will train in the Philippines, the fight won’t happen.
Hey URG, before I leave, I have one question.
What does URG stand for? URanGuttan?
Later…
he wants more $M
@kAMOTE – A 42-0 question mark? Having taken USADA tests in the past? Gimme a break.
“if Pacquiao continues to make excuses about not taking a test that not only ensures his opponent but his own safety as well”
Well… if Mayweather is unsure of his safety against the smaller Pacquiao, what does that tell you? Why not take the depo and prove that youre really up for cleaning the sports of boxing? Show the world your real purpose of OSDT RBT and show it on 24/7. Floyd is a big QUESTION MARK, plain and simple.
No rematch needed. Floyd was whooping him so bad its clear ortiz was looking for a way out. Nobody paying to see a one sided fight again.
Why discuss about Pacquiaos finances? Who cares? The real issue here is Pacquiao already said “YES” to RBT even upto the 6th rd. WHere is Floyd?
“Don’t put words in my mouth?” hahahahahaha
@Anonymous
I got one answer for you buddy
“Pacquiao, youre next”
“I didnt say that, so don’t put words in my mouth”.
and be the judge
NO rematch for HeadButt Ortiz. The cheater can get back in line and fight the likes of Berto.
Well so far majority all boxers and trainers alike side with Floyd on this issue, so theres no need to continue discussing it. What we should be discussing is why is pac broke, why did he let arum rob him like don king did tyson.
@kAMOTE
Your delusional if you think Mayweather is afraid of Pacquaio. Think about it, Pacquiao fought De La Hoya, Hatton, and Mosley after Mayweather. If Mayweather was so afraid of Pacquaio, he could have simpley stayed retired. When he did come back, he beat Marquez and immediately afterwards participated in negotiations with Pacquiao. Your boy Pacquiao walked away from negotiations like a coward. Mayweather has gone on to beat two reigning welterweight champions and Pacquiao has not fought a reigning champion in his last four fights. Pacquiao should never have walked away from negotiations at a time when he held the advantage. Mayweather is simply letting Pacquiao and his boss Arum know that he won’t be manipulated. There are other people out there were he can make money. Don’t be suprised to see Mayweather fight either Martinez, Khan, or Berto, if Pacquiao continues to make excuses about not taking a test that not only ensures his opponent but his own safety as well.
Chrome
I expected this one, Mayweather is not a good guy here! Cheap shot yet that was a legal punch. Taking advantage? Maybe, hes a type of fighter that doesn’t waist any chances.. Smart but clever!
Love or hate him. We need to admit that he is the most skillful boxer out there..
Money vs Pacman – we all hope this fight would be maid next year. Please do it for the fans. We waited too long for this fight!
The winner of this fight would be know as the best boxer of this generation and boxing need this badly! Make it Happen for us!
Everybody relax. The fight will happen. Pac is broke from trusting Arum, so he will eventually fire Arum and fight for is last big pay day so he can some money to retire with.
@FAKE Urg – Manny doesn’t agree to tests including the day of the fight, as they go into the ring.
Gary H says:
September 22, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Manny you are really irritating me now. Days slipping by and still no test.
TAKE THE TEST MAANY YOU COWARD
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you’re an idiot! how can manny take a test if floyd is not open for negotiation… the test coward floydie wants s b4 and after the fight!…
And remember, it is freddie Roach who is quoted saying on the record that Pac would not be who he is right now today if it was not for the help of Trev as he calls him, Trevor Graham. who they called into camp a lil while ago for ‘secret strength and conditioning training’
protect yourself at ALL times, Ortiz headbud Mayweather, Ortiz apologized and kissed Mayweather (1st apology) the ref took a point away, Ortiz apologized again and touch gloves with Mayweather (2nd apology) they were both sent to neutral corners when the referee said fight they came together (PAUSE) now Mayweather could have hit him then because he was fair game but what did Ortiz do APOLOGIZE for the third time and thats when Mayweather knocked him out. example Mayweather vs Mosley Rd. 8 Mosley man handle Floyd he apologized 2 times the third time floyd punch him in the mouth. Mayweather vs Gatti 1st. Rd Gatti got low Floyd held him there floyd let him go Gatti said something to the ref Floyd dropped him the ref never stopped the action Gatti was still fair game. Mayweather vs Corrales Rd. 1 Corrales stop to fix his trunks and Floyd punched him in the face your in a fight not the dressing room. Mayweather actions are justified and they were all legal (PROTECT YOURSELF AT ALL TIMES)
kaMOTE
You are such a little sweetie. Come to Uncle Gary and we’ll hug it out. Bless you dear
Oh I forgot, a gift decision against Castillo. LMAO
42 – 0 My A S S
Mayweather lost his confidence after witnessing Pacquiao’s onslaught against DLH, Hatton. Mayweather struggled against these guys considering that DLH admited himself that he was done when he faught Mayweather and yet many people thought that the winner could have gone either way. Funny thing though is, Pacquiao agreed with all floyds demands, and excuses from Floyds camp keeps on popping out. Floyd even contradicted himself on video. True Champion? Floydiots are running out of argument so they stick with… “Pacfans know nothing about boxing” LOL or “Take the Test”LMAO.
Time for Manny to retire! Become a Congressman in the Phillippines and live happily ever after! As for Floyd?
Who cares!
The headbutts were unfair too right…and the kiss and make up…bs …
ortiz is done as a fighter. no heart gives up too easy. delivery man mex trainer just keep delivering pop.
@boxing lover – 42-0 suggests otherwise. Pacquiao fares bad against defensive fighters – that’s why they’ve kept feeding him tomato cans. Don’t take it from me, most experts give the edge to Mayweather in this fight.
Mayweather knows that PacMan can and will beat him. Yet he is consistant–he is all about the money. I don’t blame him for padding his wallet before he either quits or gets his butt beat by PacMan. It is sad that he doesn’t put his money where his mouth is. He should fight the best to be the best and leave the younger and less experience fighters to others. Tick-tock. The clock is ticking away for both fighters who want to be hallowed in the Boxing Hall of Fame as the best for their generation. It is a shame that they both refuse to do the right thing to make the fight happen. Both are not giving what their fans want. They forget that it is us, the fans, that make them the millions when they fight. They both love themselves more than they love the sport or their fans.
if ortiz was tough big as he was he should have taken the two punches and fought back instead of going to sleep. too soft a wimp
He simply wants another 2M. Ref wasn’t looking though when the fight was clearly restarted but he counted out Ortiz nevertheless…what if Ortiz was hit below the belt? He still would have been counted out? How could the ref have known if the blow that flattened Ortiz was legal or not when he wasn’t looking for a few seconds when he had it restarted? The ref have some flaws there but Floyd actions were within the rules just that Ortiz is stupid for hitting Floyd with his forehead and letting his guard down when ref had restarted the fight…I would say he doesn’t another 2M…
Manny you are really irritating me now. Days slipping by and still no test.
TAKE THE TEST MAANY YOU COWARD
This just in from “Elie Seckbach” that Joe Cortez’s Mother DIED while the fight was going on. WOW after the issues with the fight and then you get home and you find out while you where at work your mom died. DAMN !!!
Ortiz says I HEAD BUTTED MAYWEATHER. THEN HE PUNCHED ME AND KNOCKED ME OUT !!! THATS UNFAIR.
I do not believe Mayweather should be proud of himself. He knew the ref was not looking. Mayweather is a good fighter but does dirty things. Ortiz headbutted in the heat of the moment…I do not belive it was a calculated move. Mayweather should have won with fighting a partner that was ready. Mayweather was gettin it in the first three…but Ortiz was coming back. I wished the fight would have continued to allow each fighter a chance to show their true skills! I would def watch a rematch.
@Killa – Don’t even try to reason with kAMOTE and their likes. Understand that they’re not boxing fans – they belong to the cult of Emmanuel Pacquiao. They don’t even realize the simplest truth: that in boxing, matchmaking is a two-way road. If the Floyd-Pacquiao fight is not happening is because of both of them. Both of them are stubborn, prideful, and have too much at stake. Although after that Visionqwest fiasco, maybe Manny will bend the knee for need of money and take the test as a last resort… let’s hope.
@kAMOTE
You have your facts wrong bro. Floyd never said there was a issue with him training out there. His dad did, Floyd Sr. is not apart of the $ team…
He’ ssupposed to be big and bad, had a 14pd weight advantage and when Floyd was coming foward ready to rock and roll. He was backing up like he was fighting Angulo or something. Lol! Ortiz didnt wanna fight, he was getting tagged all-day…
Stop the nonsense matching… Tell your idol Floyd to fight the one dimensional midget. OOps I forgot, it won’t happen because Pacqiiao only needs to train in US LMAO
Oriz was gonna get KO’s he was getting choped down pretty bad. The guy was frustrated and check out, thats why he thre the illegal shot. He had no chance, South Paws are open for the right hand down the middle so easy. I felt sorry fo rthe kid he had no answers at all.
Bradley needs to put a 50 oz gloves on his forehead. What makes you think bradley is good? Berto? Who got beat by Manny’s sparring partner? LMAO
@aaa – No man I wish he wouldn’t, but based on his previous choice of opponents (DLH, Hatton, Mosley – all after Mayweather, and you can add Marquez in the welterweight division perhaps) it’s likely he’s gonna pick up Floyd’s trash. I wish he would fight someone else like Bradley or, hell, Berto, who are at least younger, but it’s safe to speculate he won’t…
Urg u want paquiao to fight yet another guy coming off a loss
Polo let c u get hit when not engaging shows u never fought. & u want to criticize a champ all bs he got a point taken away when he headbutted o ya and floyd had his elbow up after joe cortez the ref that floyed picked did nothing remember he’s 24 & all of u will be kissing his ads in 5 yrs hipocrites.
3rds 3rds and everybodys sure that he would’ve lost when he headbutted he was in the corner
If you can’t fight to the finish cheap shot is the way. If you can’t fight Pacquiao, fight your Dad, wife & children or poke a security guard instead
Mayweathers Way… Hall of Shamer and Greatest Coward of All Time
Better than Muhammad Ali indeed LMAO
@lou you my friend has always been a hater….its not good for you to hate a person just because of a person skin color!
No need for a rematch.One was enough and was ruined by all 3 idiots involved:Ortiz,Mayweather and Cortez.
could have split floyd face wide open if that headbutt connected better. He got what he deserved. 95 percent of the boxers including hopkins donair james tony martinez berto bradley lenox lewis and countless others all think he got what he deserved and they all said they would have done the same thing. Ortiz got hit a lot harder by berto and got up he could have gotten up he was looking for a way out.
Next I’d like to see Floyd fight Khan, Martinez or Pacquiao… I’d prefer Floyd-Martinez over the other two. I hope he doesn’t take Berto or some other lesser opponent.
I guess Pac will take Ortiz next. He’s “ready”
” protect yourself at all times” Ortiz should learn the rules then try boxing
Sorry wrong cage Vic. Try Zaveck, get beat and then what???.
hhj
What was “unfair” was Ortiz’s repeated (I counted 6) attempts to purposely headbutt Floyd. So the fact that Floyd with only two fists was out-landing Otiz’s two fists and his head I’d say a rematch isn’t necessary.
Why not do the fight again for free?
It’s unfair to the PPV subscribers and everyone who watched in Las Vegas if both Floyd and Ortiz ask for another 25 and 2 million again.
Victor needs to sit down and shut up, and so does everybody else. This guy could have caused some serious damage with his mohawk missile, and now he is complaining because Floyd turned the tables on him…….lolololol. And all of these so call “fans” need to have a reality check to. Floyd Mayweather was dominating this fight, and Ortez has no one to blame for himself for the position that he finds himself in. If I was Mayweather, I would not waste my time with that clown in Ortiz. His camp called out Mayweather for being dirty….he resorted to dirty tactics and found himself on the end of the short stick.
The fight was decent, might have been a great one but not sure if he will get a rematch.
All i see is fix fight the hug time is the signal to execute the fix fight Mayweather learned a lot from his WWE stint he made Ortiz dumb lol…………
@jabs…Do you really think Floyd was worried about losing? He was dominating him before the fight was called!! Ortiz’s face was already starting to swell and they had only gone just under 4 rounds.
How do you figure Floyd’s career is going down the drain?? The guy is a huge draw which is why he is making more money than anyone else right now. Don’t get me wrong I’m a huge Mayweather fan and would have rathered he display his skills and beat him in a different way but there is no mistaken that he was well on his way to winning. Floyd is generally a slow starter yet he won the first 3 rounds and was well on his way to winning the 4th before the incident/KO. Floyd out landed Ortiz by more than 40 punches and there was no sign that was going to change.
Ortiz already had his chance I don’t Mayweather would do it again.My opinion is that FMJ felt threatened during that fight coz he knows it can be the greatest upset of all time that’s why he took the chance to knock him down while Ortiz was off guard.Ortiz didn’t really want to win that fight he was just after the fame and of course his 2 million.
Vic’s career is over IMO, just like Agapito Sanchez. Mayweather’s is going down the drain too due to his unsportsmanlike cheap shot KO. Sorry bud, you’ve lost your chance.
File your protest to change the decsion a loss on Mays record will grant a rematch
Yeah after all is said and done, unfair is the right word. No one feels good about wot happened, not even floyd deep down.