Toney: Ortiz will quit against Mayweather
August 17th, 2011
By Jason Kim: James Toney believes WBC welterweight champion Victor Ortiz will quit next month against Floyd Mayweather Jr. in their fight on September 17th in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Speaking with examiner.com, Toney said “Victor Ortiz, he already quit once and it’s going to happen again.”
I’m not sure if Toney saw Ortiz’s fight against Andre Berto last April, a fight in which Ortiz got up off the deck twice to win the fight by a 12 round decision.
Things weren’t going smoothly for Ortiz during stretches of that fight, yet he came back and proved himself by knocking Berto down twice and outworking him. I think Berto is a harder puncher than Mayweather with equal speed and better combination punching.
If Berto couldn’t make Ortiz quit, then I don’t believe that a pot shot fighter with lesser power like Mayweather is going to worry Ortiz to the point where he’ll quit. I mean may lose the fight by a 12 round decision if Mayweather can outbox him but I don’t see Ortiz ever quitting in this fight.
It’s going to take someone really powerful to put enough of a beating on Ortiz where he’ll quit just to survive the beating. But I don’t think Mayweather is that kind of fighter that has the power needed to make Ortiz crumble mentally and want to escape by quitting.
I don’t see either of these fighters quitting. But I do think Mayweather will likely end up winning a decision by a fairly wide margin. It’d difficult to win rounds against Mayweather, and I can’t see Ortiz doing enough to win very many rounds.
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James Toney knows what its like to be on and off steriods.
James Toney aint 1 to talk…got beat to submission with a MMA clown…Toney nuthin but a big mouth…only time u get him 2 shut up is when he got a burger in his mouth lolololol
How long are people going to hold the Maidana fight against Ortiz? I’m not saying Ortiz is going to beat Mayweather but come on already, man. The kid’s had six bouts since Maidana, winning all of them except for the Draw against Peterson. And that Draw included putting Peterson down twice.
Berto even knocked him down twice in their bout. Did the kid quit? Did he give up and begin to wilt in the face of adversity, again? No. Instead he got back up like a true champion, dusted himself off and continued to dominate Berto until the very end. The Maidana fight was a hard fought learning experience. A test that Ortiz wasn’t ready for.
I’m not excusing Ortiz for saying “No Mas” in the Maidana fight, just saying the kid did learn from that loss so I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for him to quit again, because he won’t.
I cant believe people even care about this fight. This is the scared little rabbit thats running from pacman and until he mans up im not interested.
Can’t see Victor winning this one, Mayweather is technically the best boxer in the world. Only way Floyd is gonna get beat, is when age catches up with him, eventually it does!
I would have loved to have seen Mayweather v a prime Hamed, sadly never happened.
@Steve guess you didnt see the Gotti fight and the rest of the idiots that think Ortiz has a chance is crazy hes out his league
Man some of you guys are fools.Victor Ortiz will win this and make it look easy.I can’t believe everyone is basing their opion of this fight on Mayweather’s performance against 35 year old Delaya Hoya,who even at 35 fought him to a one point split decesion,jr. welterweight Hatton,lightweight Marquez,OR 38 Year old Mosely.Not one of these fights has a damn thing to do with Victor Ortiz.7-1 odds,absolutely crazy.Pacquiao vs Ortiz 2012.Watch and see.
Wow. James Toney. Well, if James Toney said it, I guess that’s it. Sorry Victor…….
I think this fight will be closer than it looks. Safe bet is to go with floyd but remember, one punch can make the difference. We can only wait and see. One thing I know is that Seeing Ortiz quit is not gonna happen.
Ortiz lost to Maidana at 140lb… Ortiz should have never fought at 140lb to begin with. Even as a welterweight, Ortiz is a HUGE welterweight, he’s going to walk in at about 165 pounds come fight night.. That’s as big as Margarito….. That’s like telling Margarito or Cotto to drop down to 140lbs to fight Maidana.. That was a Golden Boys mistake to have him fight at 140 in order to build his name slowly. He should have been fighting at 147 all along.
Notice how at 140lbs Ortiz looked tired/ drained in the later rounds against both Maidana and Peterson– and notice how at 147 Ortiz looked fresh through the whole fight against Berto… Never stopped coming forward, and never looked tired.
Ortiz is being very underrated. I expect Ortiz to seriously hurt Mayweather and I’m not being a Floyd hater. But if Ortiz can drop Berto by brushing his head with a left hook- Then I believe that Ortiz can really hurt Mayweather.
well no one is unbeatable if they hang around long enough
toney is an idiot if he thinks that mayweather does as little as he needs to do in order to win. i have never seen him pressure anyone he will probably knock ortiz out but he will not pressure him in to quitting.
What the hell does James toney know. He is irrelevant in boxing, he is better off having some dude on top dry humping him for 15 minutes in mma.
What ever Toney says the opposite happens, this means Floyd will lose
Victor Ortiz will not quit in this fight, and Floyd will not be knocking him out. Floyd should win this fight by decision, but anything can happen if Victor’s power finds an opening. Floyd at this point in his career is simply too smart to try and brawl with this kid and take big shots during the process. Floyd will do what he does best (box) picking his shots and blocking. Victor does present the issue of being a younger, stronger, hungry fighter. But with youth comes a certain amount of ignorance and this could prove to be his down fall in this fight.
Toney is punch drunk..
This is going to be a repeat of Mayweather Jr. VS Gatti….
you forgot to add at the end…..Jason kim REPORTING
floyd mentally frustrated marquez and completely took him out of his game so he can do it to ortiz. And no one in the game puts there shots together better then floyd. Corner of ortiz is gona stop this fight. They will not let this young kid take the punishment that mosley took. This is gona be hopkins trinidad all over again. One sided tail whippin.
Victor Ortiz may not quit, but his corner could very well throw in the towel. I see this a a YUGE one sided fight. Victor Ortiz will show the same frustration in his face that Juan Manuel Marquz did. That frustration could lead to mistakes, which then could lead to Ortiz getting knocked out!!!!
mayweather will beat ortiz! thats all that count. 41 tried 25 were ktfo and 16 escape with there life. so to say mayweather doesn’t have power is just dumb.the sleepfest was pac man vs mosley.
If Ortiz didn’t quit against berto then he wouldn’t quit against mjr..
Floyd will win by UD, PaC will KO Marquez and then Floyd wiil retire and refuse to fight Manny again.
Spider is right, its gonna be a sleepfest with Floyd with no knockout power in his pitty patty punches winning by UD. Boring fight, the audience booing in later rounds and heading for the exit.
ortiz with his style could walk onto a punch into this fight and thats when punches do the most damage.lets face it ortiz is as wild as ricky hatton in the ring,this one might not go the distance.
Floyd in a 12 round UD sleepfest.
There could be no other way.
BERTO IS A SMALL FISH MAYWEATHER IS A SHARK.BOXING IS NOT ABOUT WHO HITS HARDER. I DONT THINK ORTIZ WILL QUIT HIMSELF BUT HIS CORNER WILL DO IT FOR HIM. THE CORNER WONT LET HIM OUT FOR THE NINTH.
Toney would say that because he is right!
Of course Toney would say that to back up Floyd.
Toney was a shoulder roller himself.
If Floyd punish him the way he punished Mosley Ortiz will quit