Ortiz believes the time is right to defeat Mayweather
August 29th, 2011
By John F. McKenna (McJack): World Boxing Council (WBC) welterweight champion Victor Ortiz (29-2-2, 22 KO’s) thinks the time is right for him to defeat Floyd Mayweather (41-0, 25 KO’s). Of course that is pretty much what you would expect to hear from a fighter who is an overwhelming underdog in an upcoming fight.
Boxing fans also believe Mayweather’s obsession with protecting his undefeated record is the real reason he has not stepped into the ring with his arch rival Manny Pacquiao. But there are some who think “Vicious” has a real shot at beating Mayweather. They point to all the instances throughout the long illustrious history of boxing where huge underdogs have indeed been victorious. Jack Dempsey was given very little chance in his “David and Goliath” matchup against the towering Jess Willard. Willard had knocked out the great Jack Johnson four years prior and at 6’6”, 245 pounds enjoyed a huge size advantage over the 6’1”, 185 pound challenger. But Dempsey came out of Toledo, Ohio on July 4, 1919 with the heavyweight title.
Max Baer was also a sure win against the “Cinderella Man” Jimmy Braddock in their historic battle in 1935, but on fight night Braddock won a convincing victory. Cassius Clay stopped the unbeatable Sonny Liston in 1964. “Iron” Mike Tyson was already thought to be a future ring great when he was stopped by Buster Douglas in 1990.
The point is that no one really knows what is going to happen when two talented fighters step into the ring against each other and circumstances do change. Victor Ortiz is not the same fighter he was when he lost to Marcos Maidana in June 2009. For Ortiz the Maidana fight was a watershed moment. He feels that the Maidana fight made him a better fighter. Since that fight Victor has had a rededication to his boxing career.
The Ortiz camp thinks that much hype has gone into building Mayweather into the Mega Superstar he is in boxing. Victor Ortiz says that he has not bought into the hype surrounding Floyd Mayweather, where the media hangs on to his every word and reports his every move.
Ortiz was not supposed to defeat Andre Berto in April, but he was transformed as a fighter and came through with flying colors. There is no denying that Mayweather has a vast edge in experience and Ortiz is fully aware of that. He feels that his skill as a fighter has been underestimated while Mayweather has been riding the wave of media hype. Ortiz to be sure recognizes that Floyd Mayweather is a very good fighter, but he insists that he is not in awe of him and he will be the one to shatter Floyd’s aura of invincibility.
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donnieb,
i know you were cowering in some_____…so i had to devise some tricks. as expected…you took my bait…hook line and sinker. you took it literally through the mouth. LOL
FYI i didn’t SPEAK in english…i WROTE in english. your reply make no sense… perhaps, that’s what you get for ____ killa’s dog HA HA HA
I turn my back for a minute and folks keep calling my name. What the hell do you want today ZDRX???? I’d have thought you’ve had enough of me, don’t you know when to quit?? SMH!
Mayweather is ripe for a loss. This cherry pickn MF er has been livin on his rep. The reality is he’s a part time fighter on the downslide. We’ve seen this before, Delahoya, Ray Leonard, etc.. Ortiz with the right gameplan can win this fight, I’m only worried about his and his corner’s inexperience to come up with a plan. My advice to him, play to your stenghths, rough and rumble him. GO ORTIZ
Manny is no boxer…he is a wild slugger. That style could not beat Mayweather.
Ortiz still so young to beat a boxer like Manny!
i would have loved it if Ortiz would have fought Pac man first. If he were to fight Pac like he did Berto he would beat him hands down. I don’t think Arum would have allowed the fight but it would have been nice.
It would have really painted the picture of how great this fight between him and Mayweather is. I hope if Mayweather wins Ortiz doesn’t become gun shy and let this destroy his career. I would love to see him fight Pac man at this level of self confidence. I’m sure he would be the victor!
Ortiz, only Manny can beat Floyd, thats why you are by Floyd he knows by himself he can easily beat you by hit, run and hug, and you fade it the late rnd, then us usual Floyd by a boring decision! i’m not buying it!!
@pact4ardblow: Its may who’s scared dead of pacman with too many, tooooo mannny excuses. He is not the boxing commission who give conditions before a fight. Excuses started when he is being pitted with pacman. This RBT is BS bec. pac has NEVER been tested positive of Peds. He accuses pac that he’s on Peds with no HARD proof that he’s on PEDs. Why not tell your floydie to TAKE THE DEPOSITION!! You say he agreed to 10 mil penalty if he comes overweight. this is bec, he cheated on marquez. ask marquez to fight at 144 but he comes in @ 146. marquez is already bloated @ 144 yet he cheated him at coming in @ 146.
Corner Floyd, go body, body, body & get him to start dropping the guard.
But be prepared to eat a lot of straight rights doing it.
Time to man up Victor.
Anonymous says:
August 29, 2011 at 1:54 pm
@floyd loves bloated fighters says
You are just blowing smoke trying to build-up your boy PEDquiao by putting down the truth. Give it up, even you know the words coming out of your mouth is nothing but garabage. The truth speaks for itself.
Mayweather:
41 and 0 (because he cherry picks his opponents and they must be bloated)
6-time world champion (i’m not a boxer but i can 100-time champion if i cherry pick my opponents)
rated P4P King when active (and retired when pac is about to face him lol!)
#1 PPV King (hmmmm….and why is the IRS after 3.4M only?)
Will take the test (neuro psychological test? i doubt it!)
his own man (yeah, he can beat anyone he wants because he was his own man, he can beat women, children, security guards and anyone he wants lol!)
PEDquiao:
been defeated (still avoided by floyd despite those defeats that dates back to antiquity tsk tsk tsk…cowardice at its best!))
8-time catch-weight champion (pac had been fighting giants and there only 2 catchweight fights while floyd fights smaller fighters who were bloated lol!)
rated P4P king only after Mayweather retired
#2 PPV King (ppv is only in the US, had it been internationally, pac is the real PPV king! FACT!)
Won’t take the test (he will, and floyd become bothered, so as the floydrats lol!)
Arums puppet (floyd’s envy that a harvard graduate is helping manny in his lawsuits while floyd’s attorneys were all nuts lol!)
NOW YOU KNOW THE TRUTH THAT EVEN THE FLOYDRATS CAN’T DENY!!!
Victor Ortiz will beat this fraud and make it look easy.Watch and see.Pacquiao vs Ortiz 2012.
Who did floyd fight at welterweight??? Shane moseley??? Waaawww nice resume.. Margarito was caught with the plaster before the fight so he was beaten before he step in with moseley.. Juan manueal marquez lol not even a welterweight.. Pacquio ?? cotto clottey margarito moseley I dont see floyds left overs .. Moseley was done before floyd fought him
Pacquiao is the cherry-picking Queen. Arum is his cherry-picking King since he makes all of his decisions for him.
@zdrx,,,Killa and donnieb hide in the drainage, Floydrats!!!
Floyd is the cherry picking king.
I give him that.
@ KAZHAK BOY
Nonsense, you named all Top Rank retreads. Your just repeating the rumor that Bob Arum started. Bob does it to try and lure the cash king into a fight with one of his retreads, but you out of ignorance to Bob’s nonsense.
Ortiz looks fat and slow.
Ortiz won’t last 5 rounds this is funny.
@TopDawg,
You forgot to add that he’s also rich like charlie sheen.
@keep it 100
So I guess you saying Mayweather should be 40 and 1 doesn’t make you a hypocrite. Who died and made you the judge. In all 41 of Mayweather’s fights, tell me which ones did you serve as judge. Just stating my opinion, just like you.
anybody seen Killa and donnieb?
@ top dawg: LMFAO
Myaweather is the Terminator. He will not be beat… ever. Period. Ortiz knows this. DeLahoya knows this. You idiot commentors on this site know this too. WHo has ever even had this Kid Floyd in serious trouble. And don’t say Shane Mosely with that one 2nd round punce cause Floyd shut him out 10 seconds after that punch 10 rounds to Zero. 41 – 0 come Sept. 18th. Lets goo!!!!!!
Update:
Mayweather:
Undefeated against women, children and security guards
6-time accused criminal
rated P4P Coward when active
#1 PPV King as the most hated boxer
Will take the test, but will use illegal/banned drugs
his own man … love to jack-off
I am with ‘I am John Q’… Mayweather always have a hard time with lefties and this lefty (Ortiz) has a one punch knock-out.
Ortiz all the way.
Mayweather’s record should really be 40-1.
Anonymous… Ur being a hypocrit.
@floyd loves bloated fighters says
You are just blowing smoke trying to build-up your boy PEDquiao by putting down the truth. Give it up, even you know the words coming out of your mouth is nothing but garabage. The truth speaks for itself.
Mayweather:
41 and 0
6-time world champion
rated P4P King when active
#1 PPV King
Will take the test
his own man
PEDquiao:
been defeated
8-time catch-weight champion
rated P4P king only after Mayweather retired
#2 PPV King
Won’t take the test
Arums puppet
one thing why didnt floyd fight erik morales back when morales was in his prime and in his division or de la hoya in the 90′s or even trineda.
or even better why did’nt he fight manny back then ?
Pac is also a cherry picker why didnt manny fight de la hoya back then ?
Why did’nt manny fight finito lopez who was undefeated who was coming up when pac was also coming up and same weight class !!
i think ortiz has alot better of a chance than alot of people are giving him in this fight. my reasons being that shane mosely who is vastly over the hill rocked floyd badly but couldnt pull the trigger and follow it up. ortiz has as much if not more power than mosely and also speed in abundance i beleive ortiz is gonna cause floyd a few problems if nothing else..
Here’s a question ? That comes to mind why did’nt floyd fight de la hoya back in the 90′s or erik morales before he face manny or felix tito trinada or even sweat pea he was still around all these fighters were in his era plus at one point at his weight class .cherry picking !! Same with pac he waited to fight with marquez after four years and why did’nt pac fight floyd back then why wait till now forget about records and titles just fight the best.Promoters protect fighters from a loosing record. we can sit here and debate but the truth is that boxing has to turn into promoting circus !! we have promoters who are clowns and fighters who are plain stupid !! to me pac is not the best for one reason he ducks both him and floyd duck alot of fighters if you claim to say you are pound for pound all time great then fight every one out there pac would lose to tim bradley easily.As far as this fight let the best man win we dont ever know whats gonna happen in any sport so for those who think there god and they see the future take some pills for your sickness.most of yall should talk to teddy atlas cuase you and him have something in comment !!
Ortiz will get Pummeled by Floyd
another carlose baldimer senirio.well hes the best ,he has a belt .may took the baldimer fight in stead of am ,now he is doing the same thing fighting ortiz for less money in stead of pac for more money .
Floyd will pull out the victory agaisnt Victor…. Floyd Mayweather has a lot of skill to loose against a cls B fighter like V.Ortiz.
@ floyd loves bloated fighters can u just do your homework before talking boxing really I know your one of the guys out there that likes to say stuff just to get people to say stuff back lol but just do your homework about stuff u love pac man good for you
but come on home work home work home work home work plz plz plz plz plz thank you
“41 have tried and 41 have failed”,by that logic ,Rocky Marciano is the greatest fighter that ever lived,at heavy weight,”49 have tried and 49 have failed”
Mayweather picked Ortiz ’cause he wants to lose and would not have to face PacMan. Mayweather will get knocked-out, mark my word.
Lets be serious, Mayweather would not have picked Ortiz if he thought he would get beat. We all know how this one will end. Don’t be delusional!
My Crystal Ball shows it’s Victor Ortiz in all angles to win this fight against Floyd Mayweather by an impressive win. I don’t ever believe Victor Ortiz is an underdog.
Ortiz expects to win…..but he won’t.
I dont hate fighters. Just what they say and do. I am hoping now that Ortiz and JMM pull off wins and i dont have to hear of Pac Mayweather again.
superpacterd, aka bloated, zdrx and lots of others, SHUT UP!
seriously if you hate a boxer like floyd so much then why devote every waking hour to him?
did floyd screw yer wife or what? for not liking him you sure talk about him enough.
will manny become “bloated’ too after floyd schools him too? hahahaha. cherry pick that little boy.
floyd loves bloated fighters is bob arum
Ortiz expects to win when he steps into the ring with Mayweather.
funny same people who yelled for a manny ortiz fight now have an issue with floyd facing him….. I remember when it was though everything was settled for a manny floyd match. Talked changed from floyd is scared to he is only facing manny because he knows he can beat him and the person he should be facing is mosley who just beat antonio and is a true welt. Floyd takes on mosley . Everyone sais floyd will be knocked out then tune changes after floyd destroys him. People are gona have to give this guy his due sonner or later and he will dominate for two or three more years.
If ortiz makes it his fight he wins
if mayrunner makes it his fight he will win the fight
that simple..
i’m not a boxer but i can defeat even the klits bros, all i have to do is bloat them so that they can’t move an inch lol!!!
i can go 100-0 if i cherry picks my opponents, way better than floyd lol!!! of course they all have to be bloated…
manny is brutally demolishing all those that made the fraud tremble in fear…
the world is waiting…WHEN WILL FLOYD FACE A REAL WELTER??? (not bloated nor newcomer of course!)
perception and reality are two different things. Floyd actually has weighed less then the person he faced in every match except two. Secound. Delahoya hatton mosley and marquez all ranked top ten p4p in world when floyd faced them. And ortiz is the #2 ranked welt in the world and comes in 164 pounds day of fights. This will be floyds secound fight he will be facing someone that outweights him by more then 15 pounds day of the fight.
@ floyd loves bloated fighters
If Floyd beat them in the 1900′s than Manny fighting them when they were older is not big accomplishment. Manny needs to fight a legit anybody. And for the record, Mayweather 41 and 0 includes fights at lower weights. So you thinking that he fought 41 bloated fighters shows your lack of boxing knowledge. Who is Manny’s leftovers that Mayweather has not fought other than Top Rank retreads. Simple fact Mayweather doesn’t feel like he has to give Arum to time of day. If the retreads were promoted by someone other than Arum Mayweather would have disposed of them by now. 41 and 0.
pac is fighting Mayweather’s leftovers, old washed-up boxers, and retreads from Top Rank???? so what made you think he is on PEDs????
ortiz is new at welter that’s why floyd will be facing him. he can’t face someone who had been in this weight before or someone who is not bloated. that is a FACT and i wonder why floydrats don’t see that.
remember, floyd said he can fight khan knowing khan struggles at welter. but after hearing khan says he will have 2 more fights before facing floyd, the fraud suddenly changes his tone and said khan is not a ppv draw (the same excuse he had been using to avoid cotto, margarito, clottey).
I hate the way he talked to his father! I am the biggest fmj fan but he needs to be humbled
delahoya and mosley were legit welters way back in 1900. floyd fought them in the new century lol!!!
manny brutally killed floyd’s leftovers who gave the fraud some problems, while floyd is dead scared of pac’s leftovers even if they were already reduced to minced meat FACT!
floyd needs to fight a real welter, at least ONE REAL WELTER if he wants to be respected!!!
@ floyd loves bloated fighters
Delahoya, Mosley were both legit welterweights the Mayweather fought and Ortiz his upcoming opponent is a legit welterweight. You should be asking when will Manny fight someone other than Mayweather’s leftovers, old washed-up boxers, and retreads from Top Rank.
@Mcpactard
“Boxing fans also believe Mayweather’s obsession with protecting his undefeated record is the real reason he has not stepped into the ring with his arch rival Manny Pacquiao.”
Wrong, let me correct that.
“Pactards believe Mayweather’s obsession with protecting his undefeated record is the real reason he has not stepped into the ring with his arch rival Manny Pacquiao.”
The truth is that p4cst3r0ids refuses to be properly drug tested to make the fight happen, now THAT is a fact EVERY boxing fan KNOWS.
The only reason Floyd hasn’t fought Manny is because Manny won’t take the test. If he was so concerned about protecting his record why is it that Mayweather signed the contract and Manny didn’t. Manny is the one that seems to be protecting something.
41 bloated fighters have tried, and all 41 fell short of their mission. how about if some of these were real welters???
floyd won’t fight manny simply because he knew very well that manny can’t be bloated into welter as he had been fighting in this division well and destroying REAL welters!
i will not be surprised if someday, floyd will fight segura at welter lol!!!
why is it that floyd only fights bloated fighters? jmm was a light weight, hatton was a jr welter, ortiz was new at welter, and floyd even at one time set his eyes on khan who was also a non-welter but after saying he needs 2 more fights at welter, floyd suddenly don’t want a piece of khan. why is that? is it because khan will get used to welter by the time he faced floyd and that he will not be bloated?
when is floyd going to face a real welter???
Tough As Nails says:
August 29, 2011 at 9:06 am
Who carefully chooses opponents?
Margarito – Beaten and Broken by Mosley
FACT: avoided by floyd
Cotto – Beaten and Broken by Margarito
FACT: avoided by floyd
Mosley – Beaten and Broken by Mayweather and simply OLD…
FACT: avoided by floyd during his prime, pac was then struggling to climb weights
Hatton – Beaten and Broken by Mayweather
FACT: beaten by floyd because he was bloated. pac easily KO’d him at his natural fighting weight.
DeLaHoya – Drained, Dehydrated, Beaten, Broken by Mayweather
FACT: was robbed of that win against floyd that’s why mayweather never wanted a rematch lol! against manny, oscar was humiliated
now, answer your own question: Who carefully chooses opponents?
I find it so interesting when it come to Mayweather steping into the ring may be i feel oposite to others.If I look to the fighters he has fought! for sure they are all tough fighters and not easy fighters after training hard he always make it and he will make it
i would like to see how mayweather would handle defeat, i think at some point he will be beat but by ortiz im not to sure. The whole pacc man and steroids are just mind games by the mayweather camp i think, pacc man has agreed to all the tests but its just big ego’s getting in the way to be honest. pacquiao is the bigger draw and its a shame the biggest fight in recent history didnt happen because of all the games mayweather and lets be fair pacquiao are playing.
Who carefully chooses opponents?
Margarito – Beaten and Broken by Mosley
Cotto – Beaten and Broken by Margarito
Mosley – Beaten and Broken by Mayweather and simply OLD…
Hatton – Beaten and Broken by Mayweather
DeLaHoya – Drained, Dehydrated, Beaten, Broken by Mayweather
@Floyd loves what ever…..
I didn’t said i hate my own race. I just hate Pacfans!
I would love to see Floyd beaten badly bloddied up humiliated humbled and then I wll consider that a good fight
BIG NOSE.(D’real Big Nose) says:
August 29, 2011 at 6:59 am
Nah just kidding. I hate Pacfans and the Filipos who love him.
BIG NOSE.(D’real Big Nose) says:
August 29, 2011 at 6:58 am
I don’t hate FiliPinoys I just hate the people who was raised in the Phillippines.XDD
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why hate your own race???
Everytime Floyd fights its the same old story. His opponents say they are in the best shape of there lifes, tht Floyd is overated, they will pressure him. But its a whole lot different in the ring under the bright lights, suddenly they realise how quick he is and how elusive. Mayweather is a fresh 34 year old, not taken beatings and I believe these breaks from the sport do him good. Dnt expect anything different come the 17th
@troy… Same exact thing was said about delahoya when he faced floyd….. Hopefully test issue can be resolved so we can see. If it is made i promise u excuses will be made why floyd won that fight. Manny is tailer made for floyd…. Unfortunetly for now all we can do is debate. Floyd and goldenboy did set up a great card and great main event that will be fun to watch.
I dont hate Floyd because he is a coward. I love him because he makes excuses to fight the best. I am proud of him because he cherry picked opponents to protect his zero loss. That’s why I like him he is a wise boxer.
The last five fights of Mayweather’s career he has faced guys who were all ranked with in the top five of their respective divisions. If these guys who are highly ranked aren’t capable of putting up competative fights, then they either are ranked too high or Floyd is just too good; those are the only options. Boxing stinks today. Back in the golden days you had several fighters who could box on the level of an all-time great, now you only have two guys fighting at a high level; the rest aren’t even close.
One can only hope, Most fans Pay for these fights to see FMjr go down, It hasn’t happened yet because Floyd does not fight guys that have a chance to beat him, This kid may have a chance
@Bri,,,Floyd can out box Ortiz but Paquiao, i dought it, Floyd not even sure of himself if he will fight Manny and beat him!
Floyd doesn’t need to fight pac , to proove that is the best !
.. maybe Ortiz in this fight will have his good moments , but remeber that Floyd fought with Mosley who is hard puncher , took a hard shot and then came back and owned Mosley !
Floyd fought with fighters in their best shape not like poocquiao
flloyd will never ever face manny.manny will retire next year and no fight against coward will happen!
We have heard the same rubish from the last dozen guys too!
Nah just kidding. I hate Pacfans and the Filipos who love him.
I don’t hate FiliPinoys I just hate the people who was raised in the Phillippines.XDD
Ortiz, I believe you. Smack his face!!
@Bri and Foreal WELL SAID!
Yeah, im all for manny, he is a true sportsman and will fight anyone without a doubt, where as mayweather picks the fights he knows he can win. But if and when the mayweather pacman fight happens….. altho i think pacman is a true great, mayweather is just more a BOXER, pacman is fast but open, mayweahter will frustrate him with his superior defense and counters which will leave pacman down on points, leading to a win or ko. As for ortiz….. hes not at his prime, he shouldnt be fighting a man like mayweather yet… maybe acouple more years but he is gona get DESTORYED.
Manny Pacquiao is faster, stronger (both hands), and would destroy floyd, but floyd is too scared to fight the best. Floyd is the cherry picking king. Overhyped record. Calzaghe and Chavez Jr have better records and undefeated too than Floyd.
floyd will outbox ortiz and pacman no doubt
Floyd is going to win this bout, people will always speculate, and the haters will always hope. At the end of the day, Floyd will win.
I thought we were talking about Ortiz?
MadLion I agree….Mayweather will easily outboxed Pacquiao. Pacquiao had a bit trouble when Cotto box him. And against Margarito Pacquiao ate too many punches .
What I noticed in that 24/7 episode is that Floyd moves with a rhytmn & fluidity unmatched in boxing. Add a pitbull type personality & you have a 41-0 fighter. Ortiz looked strong but rigid. Floyd will see all his punches coming & pick him apart easily!