Mayweather vs Ortiz: Not Vicious Enough, More like Southpark
Return of the King…
Many are called but only a few are chosen. In the end, the victim must fit the profile. And so, Mayweather finally broke his long hiatus to face another willing sacrifice, the welterweight title holder Victor Ortiz. In a sleight of hand, the self-proclaimed King is relevant again.
“I’m only fighting 100% natural fighters,” Floyd couldn’t help himself from saying.
Yeah, right. In Mayweather’s world, it means fighting only those he’s sure to beat.
What a waste of talent this Mayweather is. He may be an Einstein inside the ring, but he’s truly more of an Eric Cartman outside of it. It’s really difficult to root for the guy.
And don’t think for awhile that Vicious Victor would really give Floyd a run for his money. He may have beaten Berto but Berto hit’s hard only through twitter and is really just one of those boxing paper champs anyway (and they are many). Before that Ortiz failed the test of will against Maidana and Peterson. He’s just not vicious enough.
And boxing is all about will, something Cartman, I mean Mayweather, can be counted on. The guy’s plain arrogant and his self-belief rival those of any other boxing gods. Ortiz’ feel -good story will go down the drain, another light to be consumed by Floyd’s black hole.
Which brings us to Floyd Mayweather’s antithesis, the yin to his yang.
Lord of the Rings…
Pacquiao, the Sun to Mayweather’s universe, will take on his old nemesis Marquez in a pointless welterweight exercises. Marquez may have given Manny fits in their last two fights but those were lifetimes ago, back when Pacquiao was what the Mayweathers’ called a one-handed fighter. Pacquiao’s a different beast now and Marquez is the same old man and older. I hope the trilogy doesn’t turn out a requiem for Marquez. Well, so much for closure.
As the prophets before me have spoken, Mayweather-Pacquiao is the only fight that matters (at least to each other). For crying out loud, they’re the lord of the rings. Never let your hopes up but it really should happen. How else can we find out which is really better: Pacquiao’s all destructive whirlwind offense or Mayweather’s omnipresent defense.
Freddie Roach thinks Mayweather is preparing for that as Floyd takes the Ortiz fight. But I still say don’t count Eric Cartman out.


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Holla, my boy floyd fears no one.
And as he says he means to fight all provided theyre 100% natural.
So line them up and he will knock them down.
Beware lil Pac.
There is obviously someone’s using my name, Loser!!
Oh, i see, this site is only for Floydiots now. My post are not going through.
I am trying to post and is not going through. Does this site only allows the Floydiots only post here now?
Just tell the suspected cheater, Paquiao, to take the random test and prove all of us wrong once and for all.
Wish after Ortis fight, Floyd will face a legitimate contender namely Cotto, Margarito, Martinez (if he has the courage to fight) should the much anticipated yet remains to be seen mega fight between Floyd-Pacman won’t materialize.. On the other hand, Pacman should bulldoze himself fighting young hungry fighters to shut up critics once and for all. From here, he can asphalt his road to legacy yet he do already cemented…
Floyd Mayweather Jr. looks more like LL Cool J in the photo!
With a feint star tattooed on his forehead!
Anonymous says:
June 23, 2011 at 8:44 am
mister rasheed : who floyd has to fight to get the right credit?? you name them please ::: there is not name better then ortiz(who’s willing to take random olympic style test) ask manny to take the test and stop these non common sense articles.
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pacman should be it!!! uh, i forgot. floyd won’t fight pacman even though he already agreed to be blood tested up to 5th round.HA HA HA.
why not sergio?…sergio martinez had been calling floyd out!!! but lady fluid refused to answer sergio’s call. HO HO HO
i see where the writers coming from,flyod not talking the toughest fights thats out there,but you messed up talking about pac man ,cause flyod takes way more harder fights than pac man.flyod is just really good with talent to beat anybody,we would love flyod to beat pac man than move up and fight the like of sergio M.,paul williams,maybe even clean the whole 154 lb divison out! even though he is fighting a prim victor ortiz how is comin off his best win,this is still only sparring parctice for mayweather, we want more from mayweather plain and simple!!!!
this writer is clueless……..Ortiz is a formidible opponent for Mayweather and way more risky than Pac fighting Marquez
@anonymous… i think you said it best.there is not a name better then ortiz(who’s willing to take random olympic style test) ask manny to take the test and stop these non common sense articles.
sha bi!!!! that’s what you are stupid filippino di merda.
mister rasheed : who floyd has to fight to get the right credit?? you name them please ::: there is not name better then ortiz(who’s willing to take random olympic style test) ask manny to take the test and stop these non common sense articles.
Take the test Manny
Poor NoyNoys.
God just doesn’t want your race to win.
FAILapino!
mannyfresh2o9 says:
June 22, 2011 at 11:42 pm
True_North-
Better fight-
Pacquiao vs Marquez? — OR — Mayweather vs Ortiz?
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F*<K!!! do you have to ask us this stupid question? can't you answer it yourself? ok the answer to your idiotic question is:
PACMAN vs FLOYD
Ulol tht comment is redundent. Mayweather takes everyones left overs ortiz has become world champ since maidana fight, mosely coming off margarito win marquez actually beat pacman both fights got robbed twice watch them. And de la hoya losf to mosley how long ago? Basically everyone wi a loss is leftovers?? So pac is morales left over? Wlad klits is sanders left over? Get a grip ur statement makes no sense all fighters lose. And if u want to talk leftovers look at pacs last 4 or 5 fights,
oh hey! mannyfresh is here too.
i’m just gonna introduce everybody to mannyfresh.
mannyfresh is a FLOMO/FLOYDIOT!
@Pelpz
So you let your kids watch south park. What a responsible parent you are.
i think ortiz would beat marquez if they fought! therefor ortiz being the younger and better oponent.
not to long ago there were articles about ortiz or berto should be fighting one of the best in either pac or floyd but they ended up fighting eachother!
now the winner ortiz is taking on one of the best!! this should be a good fight for the fans! even though floyd will win.
Arbiter-
So from what you’re saying, you’d rather have Floyd fight Martinez after a 16-month layoff than Pacquiao fight him? Must I remind you of Pacquiao never-ending ring activity, with no breaks? Why make a case for Mayweather and completely neglect the fact that Pacquiao wants no part of Martinez, either?
I pointed out a fact, in which all fighters big or small duck and dodge other fighters. It’s a business. They HAVE to dodge fighters sometimes. It’s the nature of the business. They can’t match against the absolute best every single fight.
Floyd matched against Martinez is easily the toughest fight out there for Floyd right now. I DO think he would beat Martinez, but Floyd has bigger fish to fry in Manny Pacquiao. Also, as I said, boxing would be a better place should Floyd eventually. He’ll be much more willing to fight the best time and time again should he finally taste the humbling effect of a professional loss, and come to the realization that it isn’t the end of the world.
What adult still watches South Park?
Mannyfresh2Oh9 says “I all actuality, I don’t see anybody Floyd fights right now beating him. There’s a lot of big names out there, but at the end of the day I don’t see any beating Floyd.”
I agree with him 100% because Floyd has successfully evaded fighters who’s got a chance to beat him. Why didn’t he challenge Sergio Martinez, the 2nd ranked P4P king today? He is closer in weight and height to Martinez than Manny Pacquiao. And if he beats Martinez, I am sure more people will respect him over and above Manny Pacquiao.
True_North-
Better fight-
Pacquiao vs Marquez? — OR — Mayweather vs Ortiz?
floyd is a fraud!nxt fight will be at the biggest loser!and he will win at that show hands down!i already feel sorry for this guy!
Lol @ hijacked Hear’s the Thing -
H3lla funny
Floyd is still the best boxer.
Floyd Fan -
Maybe he should… I don’t think any of those fights (excluding Manny) are what they would’ve been say 2-3 years ago but nevertheless they would be huge fights.
Also, I want to know why people think Floyd should have to pay Manny for every clean test Manny provides. Mayweather is also testing, and if he were to have a clause against him like that, he should be cleared from testing at all. Not to mention, Manny Pacquiao drop the lawsuit immediately against Floyd. Otherwise, that idea is crazy.
Manny Pacquiao wants to fight Margarito, Clottey, and Cotto again. Never, ever, ever, a young champion!
NEVER!
@ mannyfresh209
you hit the nail on the head arum hates floyd for leaving top rank and going solo thus the reason for floyd having so much trouble getting fights with cotto, margarito, clottey and pacquiao remember these promoters are smart and arum knows floyd very well and i believe pacquiao will not fight floyd until bob arum is done milking pacquiao then pacquiao will lose badly and his fans will say it took to long thats all arum has is claiming floyd is scared if i were floyds manager i would offer winner take all against cotto, margs,clottey, as well as pacquiao with random testing loser gets zero
funny how pac fans call ortiz untested even after ortiz beat a guy that manny pacquiao wouldnt fight
IT’S AMAZING but ortiz has a welterweight belt just like manny but you dont see manny offering to fight ortiz
We want to see Manny Pacquiao vs. Victor Ortiz!!! Now that would be a fight!
Victor Ortiz would win vs. Pacquiao. Ortiz stands No chance vs. Mayweather!
NONE!
Manny Pacquiao for being from the Philippines has overcome a LOT. He’s well respected for what he has become. Nobody, for the most part, has anything bad to say about him.
My thing is, Arum being Arum would have been organizing press conference after press conference after press conference exploiting Floyd for ducking Pacquiao IF and only if Manny had really agreed to terms with Floyd. That hasn’t happened so we know for a fact Manny hasn’t agreed. Arum is the greediest dude on the planet and he would’ve been ALL over making it happen if Manny agreed. Nothing against Manny, either. He doesn’t have to fight Floyd to be wealthy and successful, obviously.
I just think the fans should see both sides of the story and have more of an open mind to the whole situation.
I was just kidding. I agree, Mayweather makes statements with his choice of opponents. He does have that over my boy Manny. What set Mayweather out there is his victory over ODLH at 154. If Manny had fought ODLH at 154, he would be the king of PPV, by #3 aint bad I guess.
Yes FMJ, destroyed Marquez…OK…OK!
Yes FMJ destroyd Mosley after he was coming off of a devastating win, OK…OK.
Yes FMJ commands more money. OK…OK!
Manny being #3 aint bad.
Floyd’s feeds on lefovers:
Ortiz-Maidana’s leftover
Mpsley-Cotto’s leftover
Marquez-Pac’s lefover
Delahoya-Mosley’s leftover
The list goes on…
Floyd has all the right to denied the fight with pacman if he think he’s doing something not legal !! I don’t see why people have a problem with tha amean it it’s the steriods ERA! and let’s face it the boxing commission doesn’t have the latest testing system in place amean everybody in the sports have made adjustments !! And about ortiz fighting mayweather this is a diferent ortiz I think with the right plan and the same mentality he was on tha berto fight he may just have a chance!!!
If Mayweather were to lose I think he would gain even MORE PPV numbers than he does already. Everybody would either be hoping he bounced back and won, or that he lost TWICE.
I also think it’d open the door for him to just fight ANYBODY. Because yes, he along with Manny Pacquiao and many other fighters, protect themselves with certain fights. I don’t think the fight against Ortiz is a protection fight, but we know better ones could’ve been made. Same goes for Pacquiao. Once Mayweather loses I think he’ll give up the “0 losses means I’m the best” motto and be more willing to fight bigger, more meaningful fights.
IMO, I strongly feel that mayweather and paquiao is not gonna happen because floyd’s fear of losing his 0 against paquiao. Floyd knows people buy his ppv fights because they want to see him lose and not to see him fight. Victor Ortiz was the best choice not completely tested but coming out of a great upset win over berto. Fans asking themselves” can he beat floyd?”, ignoring the fact mayweather does not want to fight paquiao. He know people will watch his fight against a mexican american. He prefers running the risk of losing against a ”golden boy” following up with an immidiate rematch, than to lose against paquiao and have nothing afterwards.Ortiz by ko in the early rounds.
All Floyd had to do is follow the boxing guide lines and accept the fight to fight mannny.
Come on yall
You really think Floyd is a runner? That boy stands in the pocket all day and uses his shoulder roll and defensive brilliance to not get hit. Bernard Hopkins claimed he’s never seen Floyd run one time.
Shane Mosley against Pacquiao was an example of somebody running. Of course if somebody gets you on the ropes you have to MOVE to get off, but Floyd doesn’t run. He just doesn’t get hit.
floyd is a runner and will run like a rabbit against ortiz.
funny, some of you question ortiz as a fighter when none of you schmucks have ever boxed. I’d like to see one of you lames calling berto a weak puncher step in the ring with berto and see if he doesn’t hit hard. Anyway, I hope Ortiz knocks out pretty boy, although, floyd is known to run like a rabbit in his matches.
You guys are so out of sync with reality. My guy Floyd’s afraid but Manny’s the one that pulled out of the fight. Manny Pacquiao’s time is running out. Manny’s fought 3 times since, Floyd fought once. Who’s fresher? Who’s better? We all know the answer to that. 100% all natural. That’s what Floyd’s proved last year and he’ll prove the same this year. If boxing becomes juice free, Floyd will beat everyone. I feel the only one’s that will have a chance to beat him, are the fighters that are using EPO. Manny got folded by little dudes but he can take Cotto’s punches? EPO!
And Hear’s to answer the experience of our lives in regards to watching boxing
I’m 25 years old, so those 29 years you have in the business far outweighs my boxing-following past. Lol
I’ve been around long enough to remember Tyson’s first fight with Peter McNeely fresh outta prison and him getting 3 KD’s in the 1st round. Or DLH beating Chavez. Whenever that was.
Hear’s -
Sorry was thinking of Gatti. At work talking with customers all day long can be distracting. But I haven’t once said anything about Marquez being overweight lol.
He called Floyd out and Floyd fought him. I have no problem with that. He wanted it, he got it.
Iwill punish floyd for ducking to fight a good boxer i am not buying a pay per view until he fight pacman.
IMO – After Floyd beat V. Ortiz will have to take vacation again and to wait for an opponent of his choice
Perfect, then I don’t want you to say a 39-year old Mosley or a 34-year old Oscar again please. Lol
That’s the genius of what Floyd Mayweather is. He purposely marketed himself as the trash talking villain so he attracts both the good and bad. His style of fighting isn’t ideal to the casual boxing fan. But a villain being beaten by an underdog is ALWAYS a good story. So he sells. More than anybody.
He makes more money than Pacquiao and outsells Pacquiao. Pacquiao being a good person and having a nice public image is great, but money talks. And Floyd makes more of it.
Mosley was quoted by Arum as being too much for Floyd just 7 months prior to their fight. Floyd went out and destroyed him.
JMM 2 years before Pacquiao rematches him.
Cotto in his prime is better than anybody Floyd faced at the time they fought him may be true. But Cotto in his prime better than Mosley or Oscar in his prime? Not a chance. Cotto didn’t fight Pac in his prime, either. So we can’t use that argument.
Hatton is a wash, he was overrated to begin with. Bald was the champ and Floyd took him out in 6.
DLH was well within striking distance to win that fight against Mayweather. Again, he outweight Floyd by probably 15 pounds come fight night. And he still only landed 24% of his punches I believe. Something like 8% in the 12th round. He used his size advantage to get to Mayweather and still lost when he was good enough to win. Floyd is 34 years old NOW and if he loses NOBODY will use the excuse “well he’s 34 years old, so he was washed up.” so we shouldn’t with DLH either.
I all actuality, I don’t see anybody Floyd fights right now beating him. There’s a lot of big names out there, but at the end of the day I don’t see any beating Floyd.
However, and this is a big however, I think if Floyd WERE to lose soon it would be the best thing that ever happened to boxing. Floyd would then be FORCED to fight the best to prove that, despite his 1 loss, he’s still the best. We would see the sh1t hit the fan and mega fights be made for the next 3-4 years on a consistent basis. In that regard, I kinda hope Mayweather loses. Idk about to Ortiz, but to someone.
Has Clottey even boxed since Pacquiao beat him last year? Margarito, after being banned for a year and getting pummeled by Pacquiao is still relevant somehow. I blame the huge fanbase in Mexico. Cotto beat Foreman and Mayorga, which could be worse.
Martinez and Manny are the only REAL BIG fights out there for Floyd right now. If he gets by Ortiz, we’ll see what his stance is on fighting again sooner rather than later.
Pacquiao also needs, if he wants the fight with Floyd anyways, to submit to Floyd’s demands ON PAPER and get this fight rolling. They’re never going to get Floyd to change his mind about the testing now, it’s too late.
IMO-Victor Ortiz chances to win against Floyd is nrxt to impossible….
Like I said, Canelo is a stud. I just think he’s a little ripe still. But like I said, in 2-3 more years he’s going to be beating down everybody he faces. I’d like to see him fight Sergio in a couple more years. That’d be an amazing fight.
Manny Simply -
What are you saying? The biggest PPV fight of all time is Floyd vs De La Hoya. When DLH was still somewhat relevant. He weighed in at 150, while DLH weighed in at 154. Let alone what he weighed on fight night. Since then, he’s fought a Hatton who was undefeated, a JMM that called HIM out AND a Shane Mosley that Bob Arum was quoted saying “The fight that should be made is Floyd vs Mosley, but Floyd will never take that fight. He won’t fight anybody that he has a chance of being beat against.” We all saw how those went.
Give an HONEST answer as to whom Pacquiao has fought in the last 3 years that match up to Floyd’s last 5 opponents? Including Ortiz.
I put “possibly” next to Cintron when you first posted your list. I think he has the best chance out of anybody you listed on there because of his power. And he’s naturally bigger.
I’ve been looking forward to the P.W match for about a month or so since I heard about it. Hopefully Paul doesn’t go after Sergio for round 3, if he wins.
And I also don’t think Canelo beats Ortiz right now. Canelo is good, but I think Ortiz would have the edge if they were to fight soon. Canelo in 2-3 more years = unstoppable against most people.
if floyd reallllllly wanted to fight the pacman, don’t you think they would have fought twice & more than $100million dollars by now. all he has to do is say ‘yes’ with no ifs ands or buts
I am not used for this one. This site usually thrashing Pacquiao and we are depending him. Now, we have one writer who are bias against Floyd and I don’t know what to say. I missed Chris Williams, Manny Perez and Dave Lahr already. I advice this writer to be neutral and don’t give Floyd the fans sympathy.
Hear’s -
Finally something reasonable to debate. I said 2 years ago Cotto would undoubtedly manhandle Ortiz. At 147 even. I’d say that even after Margarito pummeled him in the summer ’08.
I’d probably still give the edge if the fight ever came to fruition. But, as of right now I think that fight would be an even playing field between those two.
Hear’s
Lol yeah. Like I said, you got it. You know some odds and ends about Pacquiao that most people don’t. You still have never met him. And you won’t convince me you have unless you show a picture of you and him with you wearing a tshirt that says “Hear’s the Thing” on it. Since that won’t happen, I won’t believe you. My cousin is a superstar soccer player from Mexico. Rafael Marquez. That’s a true story, but I don’t pretend to know him. Because I don’t. Never have, never will.
The truth says:
The truth is that this person needs to take Floyds balls out of his mouth!
Hear’s
Yes
lord of the rings? son of universe? prophets? cartman from southpark? test of will? go back to reading comic books or write an article that’s not built from other peoples imagination
Hear’s
I get it. You know some odds and ends about Pacquiao’s life that few nerds, I mean people, know about. However, like I said, you don’t know Pacquiao personally. I don’t have a care in the world for who his child’s godfather is. Lol that is the most irrelevant thing I’ve ever heard.. nobody cares. And, that doesn’t prove you know Pacquiao. Again, I’m not engaging in any “PACQUIAO RELATED” conversations with you. It’s pointless.
@hear’s
Are you Roach’s B1TCHHHHH..LOL….YOU SCREEN NAME IS HIS QUOTE…..
of course mayweather is a better boxer, but I think he’s going to get knocked the hell out. ortiz has a lot of power in his punches, you can hear they like a gun popping off, and yes he’s faster than both mosley and marquez. all it takes is one hard shot to ruin mayweathers day
Boxing4Life
Agreed. Idk about Saul being better than Ortiz, either. At least not yet. He’s not really been tested yet. He’s a stud though, superstar in the making. Bradley doesn’t possess the power to throw Floyd off, either.
Fact is Ortiz overpowers Cotto at 147 lbs, beats everyone else on that list, Cintron who is a Jr middle and carry a big punch might give Ortiz some problems..but i would still favor Ortiz over Cintron at 147…
Mike jones vs manny 2012 good fight.lmao…
@ Hear’s
Hear’s says “BNB asks “Name one other welter not name Pacman who is better than Ortiz as an opponent for Floyd?”
EASY.
1) Miguel Cotto – a shot jr Middle….
2) Kermit Cintron – Jr Middle…
3) Erislandy Lara – Really better than Ortiz
4) Canelo Alvarez – Really better than Ortiz
5) Tim Bradley – jr Welter
6) Zab Judah – what? did Floyd beat him already…when he was still good…
1) 2 years ago easily better than Ortiz
2) Possibly…
3) no
4) NO
5-6) About even
If you think Zab has earned a rematch, think again. He may be back on track, but Ortiz deserves the shot over Zab. Bradley has about as good a chance at beating Floyd as Ortiz. Save for the headbutt stoppage again, I don’t see him winning.
This writer is boring and an idiot
I never really say anything bout the writers but this time I will. If u are for Manny did say so, cause u are all up his Nuts. U must want to be Mayweather and u have so much hateraid in u its a shame. Do your thing and keep hating and Maybe one day Mayweather will sign something for u.
I would rather watch a 12 round master piece from Floyd than a bloobath from Pacman against bums like Margarito.
Manny instead of trying to imply Floyd is afraid …take a test and call Floyd’s bluff..and than talk…
@ milo
not giving ortiz a chance huh! Just like the berto fanatics did…son get ur nose out of mayrunners @$$hole….learn a little about the sport of boxing then maybe comment..crawl before you walk….
martinez duckers please stand up…
All Manny had to do was take the test why couldn’t he?
People don’t be haters….none of you know Floyd..
Floyd beat up on his ex…and some security guard…This just show the guy is crazy…crazy people are not afraid…
Floyd is a peace inside a ring or beating up somebody…it what he was born and trained to do…NO FEAR…
BNB
Don’t even bother with him. Last night he was on here claiming he knows Manny Pacquiao personally. “Trust me…you have no idea as to who you are talking to. I’ve been in the game for 29 years. Think what you want buddy, the truth is out there.”
All in response to me saying that he doesn’t know Pacquiao, and for him to stop acting like he does.
All Pacman has to do is take a USADA test to find out how afraid Floyd is of him….how much Floyd fear the possibility of losing to Pacman…
@Hear
“Floyd has ZERO INTENTION of fighting Pac cuz he knows he will be beaten to a pulp.”
How do you know that Floyds know that he will lose to Pacman?
Or How do you know that Floyd has Zero intention of fighting Pacman?
I think many pac man fans know pac man can’t beat pbf so they sit there and call him names.but the question should be is why isn’t pac man fighting younger fighters, why does he only fight older slow fighter? Pac man could have fought ortiz but pac man only fights slow older fighter fact name one young pac man has fought in the last 5 yrs? You can’t …only older fighters
Anonymous says:
June 22, 2011 at 3:06 pm
IMO Probably, if Berto comes out as the winner against Ortiz,Floyd is still on vacation right now and remain hiding to avoid the Pac-man…..
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True Dat
Mayweather sucks, but he will beat Ortiz!
IMO Probably, if Berto comes out as the winner against Ortiz,Floyd is still on vacation right now and remain hiding to avoid the Pac-man…..
I would rather see pbf vs ortiz then pac man fighting older slow top rank fighters. Because we all know pac man does not fight young guys only older ones.
Mayweather will lose to Ortiz this September then Victor will knock around little Manny next May. And last, Rasheed step back from the computer and go to bed.
Why is P#ssy Boy Floyd avoiding #1?
Because PBF thinks he can’t beat Pacquiao so he picks an easier opponent who is El Chino’s leftover.
The haters will always say Floyd’s opponents are not up to par. Floyd faces better younger opponents than Pacman and still haters don’t respect that.
Criticize Floyd for not fighting enough, not for choice of opponents. At this point in time Ortiz is the best welter other than Pacman that Floyd could fight.
@PU-C
How do you feel about Ortiz after the Berto fight?
“Berto hit’s hard only through twitter” that is a great line that the writer used.
Lol who was this guy? Not a boxing fan or analyst, just a hater. Victor if u dont know him started out a prospect to replace and be an even better figter than dlh. But he was fed to the lions way too fast. Now hes been training rigt and will be giving fmm a real good battle. N i believe will take fmm zero
@Rasheed Catapang
You make a very weak point in this article. Fact is Ortiz is the best welter Floyd could fight not name Pacquiao. And we all know the midget won’t take a test.
Floyd does not need the midget.
If you want to talk about fighters not fighting the best talk about the PED user Pacman who picks on Floyd leftover and is now fighting lightweight JMM at 144 two or more years after Floyd beat him at the same weight. Now that a tough fight for Pacman right?
Ortiz have a mental lapse against Maidana and got better for it. If Berto was so bad why didn’t Pacman fight him. Fact is Floyd was going to fight Berto, but Ortiz put an end to those plans, so he gets Floyd and deserves the fight.
Name one other welter not name Pacman who is better than Ortiz as an opponent for Floyd?
Ortiz…a quitter and a Maidana leftover.
Ortiz is a stronger fighter than people think…
Mayweather jr. came back to take the Mexicans Dinero and then have another tune -ups fight vs. some weak Boxer.. Bwahahhaha Suckers!!