Haye focused on taking out Wladimir in the early rounds
June 28th, 2011
By Jason Kim: WBA heavyweight champion David Haye (25-1, 23 Ko’s) wants no part of exchanging shots and fighting a long grueling battle against the big 6’6″ 247 pound IBF/WBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko (55-3, 49 Ko’s) on Saturday. Perhaps because of this, Haye is saying he’s going to take Wladimir out early in the fight. It’s the advice that Haye has been given by Manny Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach, who previously trained Wladimir for small number of fights earlier in his career.
If Haye is forced to fight Wladimir for nine rounds, Haye could be too beat up to do much of anything other than get knocked out. He doesn’t look powerful after the first half of the fight and seems to become much more mortal in strength. It could be that with all the bodybuilding type muscles that he’s packed on his small frame that he’s built mainly for short fights where he can exert maximum energy in a short, explosive period of time. But he lacks the endurance over the long haul. The bad news for Haye is that Wladimir is fully aware that Haye is going to attack him hard early, and will be prepared to foil his attempts to land one big bomb.
At the same time, Haye is going to have to pay attention to Wladimir’s power, because his left hook is arguably better than any weapon that Haye has in his toolbox, and Wladimir’s jab and right hand are also very formidable weapons. He could knock Haye out if he goes for broke and forgets about defending himself. It’s unfortunate that Haye’s only real chance to win is to attack Wladimir hard early.
The fight would be much better if Haye some boxing skills and some endurance to make the fight last into the later rounds, but it’s probably not going to happen that way. Either Haye will get his early knockout or Wladimir will prevent Haye from landing one of his big shots by fighting defensively, and then wearing him down slowly with his jab to eventually take him out between rounds nine through twelve.
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Did you say take him out or Talk him out? ha hah ha
Good Article – so it will be !
Furthermore haye lack’s intelligence, whilst Wladimir has lot’s of it !
I get back from my honeymoon an same day fly to hamburg to watch fight I can’t wait to see haye put the fight onto wlad, seen all of wlad’s previous fights and as Adam booth says he is one dimensional and doesn’t have the true heart for all out war, haye 6th round knockout!!!!!
Wlad will give this spoon a proper flogging .
Why the fu ch didn’t Haye fight Virgil Hill during his travels? I’ll tell you, because Virgil would have kicked British behind!
And the boxing education,technical abilities and experience lies with the seasoned champion in Wlad and its his fight to loss.
@bearcat Dude, nationality has no meaning these days. A chinese couple could come over to britian have a kid, that kid is now british. So my point is anyone can be british in your eyes. infact using your theory the Klits are Kazakhs,as they were born in kazakhstan. So going by race and not nationality, haye is not part of the english race. Why bring nationality into this. Many americans are part of the british race. Yet rip on british boxers all the time. Me not wanting Haye to win because he his brown, is no worse than you americans not wanting him to win because his “british”. I doubt you will understand logical thinking.
Haye will come out all hyped up, burning what little stamina, he gets hit by a few good shots and his wild swinging doesn’t come close. Second round he will try to change his plan and become frustrated while Wlad settles down with his jab and hook, Haye eats alot of punches. same in the 3rd round. 4th round Haye is beat up and quits or is saved by Adam Boof or the ref from bad damage…….and that is the way it will go…..I am positive.
warrior,he`s not fought anyone, never been in a war. he`s just one of the better boxers in a real weak division.
haye stops Wlad inside of 4 rds !
… The real question is : Will Haye fight Vitali ?
hayes chin is better than wlads. just wait..
Come july 2nd people would be in for a reality check and like simon corwell says come back to planet earth and realise that there would be a big golf in class between both fighters.
You make it like Wlad is a wannabe with the record of 54 fights and 49 by KO and in the list of 54, You have boxers like Ibragimov,Chambers,Bryd,Chagaev,Ray austin,Mercer,Brookes and the list go on and on and you ask yourselves one very honest question how do you think your WBA Champion Haye would have faired with this list?
Why do you guy keep going on and on about Wlad chin but haye has’nt got a terrific chin either and i can remember people saying Khan would fold once tagged by madiana but he toke it well in his strides and you brits are the most vocal and onesided as they can get them. You never ask yourselves if haye gets tagged what would happen.
every time wlad has been tagged by a big punch thats followed up with lots of pressure, he folds like a pack of cards.
Mike
ERRH yeah Wlad has faced boxers that were as fast as haye and were as fit and ripped as haye and had a foul mouth as haye so it wont be new to him because he has been there and done that and got a Tshirt and fighters with speed like Bryd,Ibragimov,Edddie chambers and fighters with power like Ray austin and durable boxers like Chagaev. But i bet you that haye has not fought anyone in the level of Wlad.
haye will feel wlad out for the first two round`s then start trying to land a huge counter punch that will drop wlad. wlad has been down 12 time to fighters with lesser power than haye and defo never fought anyone as fast. haye to win by tko in the 6th.
Yer I rek Haye has a 20% chance of stopping Wlad in rounds 1 or 2. So I dont think this is a definate…But if they hear the bell for round 3 then its over for Haye.
Don’t really get the analogy really. I can’t call this one to the extent I’d put my mortgage on it. Some people on here are gonna be omelette tho’ if Haye wins.
It will be like jumping in a Bugatti Veyron, when u have only ever driven a 1 litre fiesta your whole life. The shock and level difference will be too much for Haye to bridge within the time of the fight. Tooo soon for Haye.
Bookies giving you 300euro for your 100euro on Haye winning?
This tells me Wlad will in.
At least Wlad has fought real heavyweight punchers. Haye has not actually been hit by a heavyweight properly yet and rest sured Wlad will find his chin at some point.
Bobcat….it’s happening alot mate
numpty site
Judas…yeah, he isn’t prepared. True enough. BUT is Wlad? I mean look at his victim list. It doesn’t read all that great albeit he can only beat what’s in front of im. Imho this fight is not so obvious to call.
getting fed up with writing posts and not been submitted
To have a suspect chin at Cruser Weight, then miss every hard punching heavyweight and end up in the deep-end with Wladimir? Its going to be a harsh night for Haye (in my opinion). He is not prepared.
Hey guys..I think a lot of Brits are behind Haye purley as he is English hence my phrase “national pride”. I think it makes some comments irrelevant as they have no foundation. Haye has the talent to beat Wladmimir, but he wont as he has not had enough fights with the right heavyweights. This is 2 years to early for Haye. The gulf will show soon enough
This fight IS NOT going to be over quick. Klit will expect this and Haye knows they’ll expect it. It’s going for the long haul this fight. think chess. This fight is gonna be strategic and cautious. And why all the nationalism?
Who has haye beat? suspect chin: Ko’d in pros and ams
Hayes plan was to rattle team Klitschko with the hand wrap accusation just to make them mad and get under Wlad skin and make him come out from his cautious approach and engage him which would work in hayes favour. but haye would be suprised because Team klit and Wlad are far to experienced for that to happen because over the past they have seen haye’s type eg Jefferson,Bryd and Brewster.
You guys would be very suprised how Wlad would keep haye under lock n key for the first openning rounds and just do enough to win even 3 out of 5 rounds and then drag haye in uncharted territory and haye would be tired from going for broke in the earlier rounds and Wlad would have a cautiuos field day.
Whatever haye brings to the table i bet you Wlad is ready.Manny steward already said it during the training camp vids that haye might come out with all guns blazing because that the only chance he has to win this fight, Wlad plan would be to use his defence and shake of hayes bum rushing and once haye misses he would tire himself gradually and all Wlad have to do is counter hook when he comes in sensllessly
@ Judas its actually The oldest of the organisations that are going and most will still see it as 2nd to the WBC belt
You are a helmet
WBA? hahahahahahaha the most pointless of all belts. Its only value is that without it a fighter cannot be called the undisputed campion of the world. Its ha no value and is for up and comming domestic fighters.
Haye will start fast throwing everything,but by round 5 wald will take over and beat him up and stop him late on.
Mike – Its not about Favoritsm, its about knowing boxers. Its about realising Haye has not come through the ranks in the right way to earn this fight. Its about knowing Haye is not ready. Nothing to do with nationality, or being a fan of either fighter.
jayjay – agree again dude
@English88,
Haye is British mate so deal with it. Klitschko on the other hand isnt Bristish, so what exactly is your point mate??
@Bingo, You just sang to the same level as Englisg88.
@jj – does any1 no why vital and vlad havent fought any1 decent in there last 4 or 5 fights!! shannon briggs, albert sosnowski, samuel peter, etc etc this list goes on!!
@ English88 if haye is brown and going down
your white and full of sh1te
people forget wlad is trained by a legend steward but i think haye has better physical ability if past 8 wlad before then haye has a chance
Haye will try to rush early. Vlad will be prepared. He will let haye wear him self out in the first few rounds, running around like a track star and throwing wild wide angled hayemakers ( lets admit it, Haye does not know how to box).
Bookies all have vlad as the favorite.
One only has to look at the Audley harrison and Valuev fights to see what will happen here.
Haye didn’t throw a punch for two rounds in the Audley fight. He ran for 12 in the Valuev fight.
All the promotions show only him knocking out cruiserweights, and none of his HW fights. They know, they couldn’t sell the fight if the used the Audley harrison and Monte Barrett fights. LOL!
British people are suckers and have been suckered into thinking they have something in David Haye. David will laugh all the way to the bank and retirement for convincing the British public to back him in the fight.
LOL!
mike = words for the sake of words and national pride. Again your a plonker.
jj – U are right!
Haye couldnt take out wlads washing,does any haye fan know why he hasnt faught 1 good heavyweight ,it is beceause he wouldnt get this money spinning last fight against the real champ.
Please dont call haye british, english, londoner etc.. Its very insulting. His brown and going down come second july. Go klitschko white power
@Bigmoff – you might as well have said “then Adam Booth jumped in the ring with a ressurected Bruce Lee wearing Ugg Boots and a Robocop outfit and threw a small jet at Wlad knocking him out”…Plonker
This is not going to be over early, I truly believe. Haye is going to stay on the outside, be mobile and throw once Wlad commits. When that happens Wlad backs up like a cat wit it’s head in a bucket. I see a cautious fight with nothing much happening until rounds +6. I think wlad wins gratis of jab. But I hope Haye wins ‘cos Klits are an enemy of excitement. They, and Wlad is the worst offender,are killing global interest in HW
@Mike- I just dont se it
Haye dances the first round, gets jabbed about in the second, right hands eaten in the 3rd. Knocked out in the 4th. Trust me and out money on it.
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R.I.P VLAD.K 2/7/2011
Haye is a bully and a thug. I swear the guy is just a jumped up chav gang member, who realized he would earn a few quid. Not a champion or a gentleman of the sport.
Haye wil show how a boxer should box and a fighter should fight and how you excite.
He will show All the foreign low lifes on here. how he is a former cruiser weight superchampion and a HW SUPER CHAMPION
jealous foreign re-tard 3rd world sc*m
Sunday morning the Hayemaker will be looking for much consolation and support. His nurse will have a lot to do.
Haye wont be prepared for Wlads power. Not the other wasy around. Haye is not prepared and has not had enough experience at HW to even sample Wlad type capabilities.
Everyone talks about “can Wlad take what Haye brings”. I think its the other way. Can Haye take true Heavy weight speed and power? Haye has never had anything like Wlad to deal with before. Once Wlad connects for the first time, we will know if we are in for a battle or not.
This particular Anonymous was me. I didnt put my name in soz. And Dakdak, I do agree the styke mix for the fight is great. I cant see it being a borring jabbing match like some HW contests. If Haye can take the jab and handle a few right hands, then he is in with a good chance. If those first heavy blows hit and Haye suddenly feels he is outs his league and goes on the back foot. well thats that.
JUDAS..oh aye he’ll have to deal with incoming but to me it makes the fight all the more interesting. And when Wlad commits he’s vulnerable cos’ Haye hits to bruise badly. Did you hear Jim Watt’s analysis. I reckon he’s got it spot on.
DakDak…Yeah, but Wlad is faster then people realize. I dont think he can run and pop Wlad for 12 rounds without being nailed.
Bigmoff – You know what I mean by a McCall or Rahman v Lewis type win. Dont be stupid. A win like those (easily avanged)show the dangers of heavyweight boxing ie: anything can happen. Not how good the challenger was. You could also use Jones vs Tarver 1, or Harrison vs Sprott as examples. Guys that didnt deserve to win,
@JUDAS….couldn’t agree more. Nullifying the jab is key for Haye and Booth. I still think Haye is gonna go pretty much like he did against Valuev. In retrospect the Valuev fight was a safe-ish rehersal for Wlad
Well I just want a real win for one of them, not a 1st of 2nd round 1 punch fluke stoppage…..we deserve a battel. Could handle and Oliver McCall, Rahman type of win vs Lewis where u know the wrong result happened. cant be cheated like that, not after how long it has taken to ghet them in the bloody ring
If Mormec is ex champ “Robinson”, Haye is “NAZ”, then to me Wladimir is “Barrera”. He will show how overated Haye is at worl level. Thoughcant think of a HW that would then be Pacman lol
This fight is about as exciting as Camilla having gas!
A little scale for you: If Naz is Haye,then Naz embarrases Robinson, then he meets Barrera (Wlad) who in turn embarrse Haye. Of course Barrera is great but not the greatest as Pacman then showed (cant think of any heavyweight that can be compared to Pacman). But the fact is their is still a massive gap in terms of what Haye is and Wlad is. This will only show once they are in the ring together, as happened in the fights above.
Cornish nightmare – Yes “BOOOOM” may happen, of course its the heavyweights and Haye is fast, cunning and powerfull. But if he wins it will be for the same reason Sanders won. That Haye caught Wlad unprepared & cold with a shock knockdown. It will not mean he is the better fighter.
3rd round K.O – VLAD SPARK OUT ON HIS BACK
Cornish nightmare – Yes “BOOOOM” may happen, of course its the heavyweights and Haye is fast, cunning and powerfull. But if he wins it will be for the same Sanders 1. That Haye caught Wlad unprepared & cold with a shock knockdown. It will not mean he is the better fighter the same as Sanders was not better than Wlad either…..
Here is a litte scale for you:
If Naz is Haye,then Naz embarrases Robinson, then he meets Barrera (Wlad) who in turn embarrse Haye. Of course Barrera is great but not the greatest as Pacman then showed (cant think of any heavyweight that can be compared to Pacman). But the fact is their is still a massive gap in terms of what Haye is and Wlad is. This will only show once they are in the ring together, as happened in the fights above.
Nutter.Wiv.aBaseball Bat…..”steroids?” I would say a lot of pro boxers use steriods. But most would cycle on and off depending on weight requirements for fights. Now there are a few easy ways to tel if someone is using steroids. Firstly their back and shoulders grow first (the bell shoulder look), then u have water retention when they are on the course. (puffy face etc). Also on some fighters you see rid spots on their backs and shoulders or at least the scared remains on their skin. I have to say knowing very well what a roid physique looks like that Haye looks more in line with the typical look. Wlad might have in the past but is a lean wireyer physique compared to the round muscle bellied swollen look of Haye. If you were going to point a finger at somone, maybe do it at the guy with the gear vascularity, bell shoulders and puffy face Haye…..
I have always felt that David Haye is going to get smashed! But I still give Haye credit for rounding up this fight! Good luck David, I don’t think you will win, but I’m sure you will give it your best shot!
It all comes down to weather or not Haye & Booth have actually found away to get around the Wladimir jab and then being able to implement it. I still think even with this kind of success Wladimir will win. However if Haye does find away around the jab and Wladmimir is not able to adapt (as Haye points out) then it could end up being a very interesting fight. As I said Wlad to win, but at least if the jab can be moved aroud then we may have a battle for a while at least. If those jabs find their mark from the first bell, then its going to be a painfull night for Haye.
Haye is gonna smash him. Trust me.
It is with a certain amount of amusement for Klitschko fans and diverse boxing aficionados who study Haye and his shooting off at the mouth to correctly note that this jive attitude of Haye’s is effectively the most dangerous part of the entire Haye extravaganza. In the ring the smaller boxer will be much more subdued in more ways than one.
I know that wladimirs a doc, so he takes steroids(i have no proof) that he gets of his brothers(no proof) perscription, oh yeah that HGH goodness will have haye looking like a batterd dog in manny pacs tempura. great its easy to express yourself but id rather jump on wladimirs neck.in a nutshell i hope haye wins but if he looses in rnd 1, im rich so there.
The longer this fight lasts the more it will turn in Wlads favour. I believe at the moment it is a 50/50 fight because both guys have unquestionable power and suspect chins. But the longer the fight goes the harder it will be for Haye because he’s going to be eating Wlads jabs from the first bell. I hope Haye can land a few solid shots early and test Wlad out.