DeGale: I don’t need a rematch with Groves in order to succeed
May 23rd, 2011
By Scott Gilfoid: Realizing that it’s probably fruitless to pursue a rematch with George Groves (13-0, 10 KO’s) after being on the receiving end up a controversial 12 round majority decision loss last Saturday night, DeGale has wisely recognized that he doesn’t need Groves in order to find success. DeGale will find it anyway whether Groves gives him a rematch or not. I see Groves as an English version of Sergio Mora. He’s the exact same fighter, only not quite as good as him on defense. Mora doesn’t need to use just his legs to make his opponents miss. He can move his upper body to get out of the way of shots. Groves is limited with just his ability to run around the ring. When he’s in punching range, he’s utterly hittable.
DeGale said this after Saturday’s fight: “Hopefully we can get the rematch. I don’t kow. But that’s what I want straight away. He can’t be too proud of that win. He nicked it. I’m going to move on to bigger and better thing with him or without him.”
Now that’s what I’m talking about. If someone doesn’t want to fight you, move on and fight better guys and forget about Groves. He’s going to get beaten when he steps up anyway. DeGale showed that Groves doesn’t have the power or the ability to trade. Groves has to run in order to survive and try to scrape out wins. You can’t do that every time. You might be able to do that when fighting in your home country with the crowd in your favor and the judges giving you the benefit of the doubt, but that’s not dominating.
Groves is going to lose when he steps up against another guy near the class of DeGale. That running junk won’t take Groves far, believe me. I’m surprised his own countrymen can’t see that. It’s painfully obvious to me, and I’m just calling them like I see them. I wish Groves did look better and shown the power and chin needed to stand and trade with DeGale, but he didn’t. Had Groves stood and traded with DeGale all night long, Groves would have been destroyed long before the 9th round.
If you don’t believe me, watch how Groves couldn’t handle it when DeGale was catching up to him and battering him in the second half of the fight. After seeing that, do you honestly believe that Groves can ever hang with guys like Lucian Bute, Mikkel Kessler, Andre Dirrell, Sakio Bika or Andre Ward? Heck, even Froch would do a number on him. If you really think that Groves can ever been those guys than you’re kidding yourself. Groves isn’t good enough now and he’s not going to be good enough in the future. He’s topped out his potential and this is as good as it gets. I think he’s a decent fighter but his foot is literally to the floor in terms of getting all he can out of his limited talent. He’s maxed out. In contrast, DeGale has a lot more to him than Groves and has much more potential.
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Degale must me sick as a dog after all the sh$&e he said bout groves! Don’t blame him 4 not giving the rematch the guys a cu@t!u deserve what u got horse head
Scott,noticing as you are always WRONG with your predictions I will give you a tip. I dont usually give out tips but on this occasion,in seeing you homeless after betting your house on Degale,I make an exception. The tip is to GIVE UP WRITING ARTICLES and turn your head from boxing,as you will end up being hated my most people – just like Degale!
sakio bika would be way to strong for him he is like steel degale needs more experience then may be later on but buy that time bika will be gone how about shaka that guy from tyson gym that would be a test he comes through that then he would be ready for the world stage degale can take risks which will take him to level he needs to be at ,
Unlucky scotty
it must be tough when you run ya mouth and then get it dramatically wrong. the reason we dont like degale, is because, like you he talks out of his bumhole.
I’ve never in my time hated one of my own countries fighters as a patriotic Englishman but I cant stand James Degale, he’s such a nasty piece of work. He’s trying to be the new Nas but with Nas a lot of it was tongue in cheek, clever, banter whereas Degale comes across a nasty little child with half a brain cell.
People in Britain are turning against Degale because he’s such a complete tool and has all the make-up of a school yard bully. In our country we don’t like that kind of thing no matter what their ability is like. It’s called having common decency. The guy takes it past having a bit of banter and just comes across as a nasty little s h i t.
As for Degale winning by 4 rounds, I don’t think so. Look at the punch stats, Groves threw more punches, landed more and connected with a higher percent. Degale barely threw or landed a punch in the first half of the fight and was only marginally better in the second half. Degale looked lost at times and ran out of ideas. Groves on the other hand executed the perfect game plan, looked composed and measured and landed the better cleaner shots. Every punch Degale threw missed.
Can’t believe this writer!
What a fool,degale got beat fact!
Not once but twice!
That ”running junk” took degale to an olympic gold medal and a certain chap called Ali did it quite well! What was his nickmane? The runner wasnt it…
once again, a complete farce of an article. keep up the good work!
Do you find DeGale attractice, Scott? Him and Dirrell and Ward and you together in a soapy bath, is that why your talk so much about these three over-rated fighters? DeGale is a big-mouthed nobody who won a few fights on the back of being a rangy southpaw. He deserved to lose. Better he wake-up and get flippin burgers at his local drive-thru sooner rather than later.
How was it controversial? Groves gave as good as he took plus more, every time degale landed groves landed straight back and when degale missed groves landed.
Rounds 2-5 degale hit nothing but fresh air with his combos so groves obviously is not “utterly hittable”
In fact to be honest degale was cheating and still couldnt win, using his head and his shoulder to shove groves in the face when he clinched, hes a disgrace to the sport and doesnt desereve anything!
Groves was the better man and he won deal with it!
Degale is a bum
Im given up reading anything you put your name to Scott Groves is a good fighter and still has things to learn you need to stop digging him out because you called the fight wrong! You dont know what you talking about and i would be glad to teach you a thing or two in the ring!
Again you write another bitter sad article badmouthing Groves, what is it you dont understand about the concept that the man that Throws the most punches, Lands the most punches and lands a greater percentage of punches thrown is a worthy winner. There seems to be a nasty campaign going on by some that tipped Flunky prefight to try to convince us that Defail somehow won the fight even though he was 2nd best in every stat, looks to me that Groves has made you look the clueless mug you are.
what are you talking about other than the 9th round DeGale did nothing look at the tale of the tape Groves threw and connected with more punches. Now you say you know boxing and in the boxing world if you are not connecting with punches you are not scoring. Another fact you seem to have failed to bring up are the points that DEGale should have been deducted for illegal use of head, shoulder and elboe the distant then would have been massive. Another point Groves is 2 years younger than DeGale and as 2 years more to develope by then he would destroy DeGale and knock him out. Glad to see DeGales MOUTH FIRMLY SHUT BY GROVES BUT i BET IT WON’T BE LONG BEFORE IT IS SPOUTING RUBBISH AND THINGS HE CAN NOT BACK UP ONCE AGAIN THE PURSE MONEY AND KNOCK GROVES OUT JUST 2 OF MANY
it wasn’t contraversial at all… it was a clear loss…close but not contraversial…
you always say the people you pick who lose (all of your choices) lose contraversially…
face facts you havent got a clue about boxing
seriously? what do some people think?? george groves fought him and beat him fair and square, it might have been close but he still got the decision. degale maybe needs to learn how to lose gracefully its all well and good doing big talking interviews before the fight or after an easy win over a nobody but after a close defeat he ran off to his changing room to sulk just like in the amatures. degale is a good fighter and will move on to world level at some point but his attitude needs to change he is no floyd mayweather after all!!!
Is this James Degale writing this article? What a load of rubbish!
grove game plan was to stay away and it worked wots ur problem jus cuz he diddnt do wot every other degale opponent has done and stand there
DEGALE IS A BUM!!! TALKS THE TALK BUT CANT WALK THE WALK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
your point with groves movement can also b leveled at your idol dirrel!
good win for groves,if i were him i would not fight de gale for a 3rd time unless he held a belt and the purse was in his favour. could u see degale giving groves 1 had won. dont think so.
cant wait for ward v froch.
can see u looking stupid again scott
You know nothing about this sport you fool…….. its called boxing!!!
That means using skill to win and you DeGale lovers just cant take the fact that they guy who was meant to be an easy fight for James turned up and out boxed and out thought a guy with a Gold Medal.
Even DeGales corner sent him out in the 12th saying to him there is nothing in the fight and he had to win the round so how you had him clear by 4 rounds is just crazy.
Learn the sport before you write about it. Idiot
Your articles are so ironic, it almost defies belief. Groves had a strategic gameplan set in place to out-think and out-box Degale, yet you focus on the fact that he cannot stand there and trade. If you have a look at his other fights you would notice the distinct pattern of Groves willing to trade and be a more aggressive fighter, this fight, however, Groves illustrated that he was multi-faceted in his fighting approach: MAYBE this is why his gameplan was focused around a more tactical approach!
bring on degale vs sakio bika , that would be an awesome fight