Will Pacquiao avoid Ortiz?
April 18th, 2011
By Chris Williams: Victor Ortiz (29-2-2, 22 KO’s) possibly weeded out another potential opponent for Manny Pacquiao last Saturday night in beating WBC welterweight champion Andre Berto (27-1, 21 KO’s) by an impressive 12 round unanimous decision victory. Now normally a loss like this would eliminate Berto from the running for a bout with Pacquiao, but that might be the case. We’ve already seen struggling fighters like Joshua Clottey get a fight with Pacquiao coming off a loss and guys like Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito get fights with Pacquiao with recent losses as well on their resumes.
Berto might have been expecting a timid Ortiz, the fighter that quit against Marcos Maidana in a 6th round loss in 2009 or the Ortiz that ran from Lamont Peterson after knocking him down twice. Ortiz showed Berto very early on that this wasn’t going to be the case, as he went right at Berto, walking through his best shots and landing devastating left hands to the head.
Ortiz seems a lot stronger at welterweight than he did when fighting at light welterweight where he had to squeeze down to 140. He’s simply too big for that weight. Never the less, Ortiz was very powerful at light welterweight, but at 147, he’s a much bigger puncher. He reportedly re-hydrated up to 161 for the Berto fight. That’s huge. If Pacquiao were to fight Ortiz, my guess is there would be some kind of re-hydration penalty build in to keep Ortiz from coming into the fight that heavy. By doing that, it would be like giving Pacquiao a nice handicap because Ortiz would have to come in even lower and be forced to take off muscle to keep from going over once he re-hydrated.
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Pacquiao can’t help it because Ortiz is w/ GBP.
Isn’t that difficult to understand, idiot!
If both promoters agree to this fight, why not? Pacquiao does not duck anyone.
Every time the pac, hater see a good fight they put the winner right away in front of Manny Pac.
i think vicyor ortiz will beat a pacquaio,yeah that’s true.he’ll beat bobby pacquaio the brother of manny pacquaio.not manny,manny will ko overrated victor ortiz.
Thus this mean Berto is really that Bum? so that Zero he hold before and the Pacman is scared to Berto thing is gone, right?
and Pacman will be facing Bum Berto, right? cuz he was expose!
Pachaters are really consistent. hahahaha
HEY U DUMMY CHRIS CHRISSY WILLIAMS,PACQUIAO WOULD KNOCK OUT ORTIZ IN THE FIRST ROUND NOT A GOOD FIGHT FOR ORTIZ,STOP BEING A DUMB ASS CHRISSY WILLIAMS,STUPID ASS
hell naw!!! they are both very very aggressive fighters…Pac will end up knockn him out in the mid-rounds….unless Ortiz learns how to guard his NUGGET
Pacquiao will not fight Ortiz now that he’s seen he still has bombs in the tank. Pacquiao’s scared of boxers that can fight. That is why he is alway cherry picking. He will never fight a top contender on a winning streak.
You do realize that your name or nick is at the top already right?…
pac man would beat ortiz but it would be an exciting fight an one i would like to watch
Pac will fight Berto next. It is prob already signed!
Ortiz would KO Pacman out!!!
Pacquiao will not fight Ortiez now that he’s seen he still has bombs in the tank.
Pacquiao’s scared of boxers that can fight.
Ortiz vs pacman that great competition for pacman
After the Berto’s fight? No, he won’t fight Ortiz. He’ll fight a fattened-up Marquez or a dehydrated middleweight..
You wish! Dream some more…and more…. and more….
@Schasm
You are the most idiotic individual human-being posting on this forum!!!
Just because Paquiao has said he wont fight Martinez, things could change & i believe Pac will fight Martinez. If FMJ does not come out of hiding Pac will fight Ortiz, Pac will fight anyone.
this is a silly question …..OF COURSE HE WILL AVOID ORTIZ NOW!!!!
pac is a loser and now he is going to have 2!! supposed fighters he is avoiding because there both ….TO BIG??lol
even know he fought the MASSIVE margharitto..lol so why will he not fight martinez OR now ortiz??? its obvious why …… BECAUSE HES SACRED AND HE WILL LOSE.
if you reply to this comment PLEASE reply to the statement of why he will not fight martinez or ortiz even know margharitto was MUCH bigger than them both lol do NOT just splurge a load of irrelivant nonsense about mayweather or something..lol
It’s a good match up but Ortiz is GBP. The best fight for Ortiz is a rematch with Maidana. I think he has improved since that lost. But Maidana is now showing signs of avoiding Ortiz.. He is talking about the right money and the weight issues. I’m sure he will not be having trouble moving up a few pounds but he feels otherwise..And how much of the money is he talking about? I am sure he will getting more money with this fight but it may never be enough for him. Sometimes it is a very convenient way to say no without losing face!
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BIG NOSE. says:
April 19, 2011 at 10:27 am
Man,this pinoys are stupider than the pinoys from the “Examiners”.com…hahahahahaha! I guess they were all born with a penut brain.hahahahahaha!
@Pac you gago ka!! your idol only fights shocked fighters who barely came from losses. BURROS! hahahaha!
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hoy! half pinoy half pinay! musta kupal!
Ortiz won,t avoid him,i don,t think,but they may try for khan after this next one with sugar man.Ortiz like any other good fighter should take his time,as he has great respect for Pacquiao,and support one another.Ortiz has plenty of time and should get in a rematch with maidana at this wieght class,or guess who/,yah,Morales.
Well all indicators are he will fight Berto next, if he continues on his recent pattern.
Man,this pinoys are stupider than the pinoys from the “Examiners”.com…hahahahahaha! I guess they were all born with a penut brain.hahahahahaha!
@Pac you gago ka!! your idol only fights shocked fighters who barely came from losses. BURROS! hahahaha!
All writer of boxing news 24 are bunch of white moron people nyahahaha
Just fall in line one by one dont loose hope we’re getting there until 2013 Pac will Knock them out
I do not think that these guys are scared of other boxers. It is just politics getting in the way. When you make as much money as Pac does in Bob’s eyes, Bob is not going to put him in a fight where he could loose. Until pacs popularity goes down he is going to fight oldies coming off losses.
@ anonymous
youre starting to sound like the mayweathers
what are you gonna say next the fight between pac and sugar will be called steroids vs Aside meth??
personally im picking aside meth as we all know bullets bounces off people that use it
Why does Pacquioa wait until a fighter is beaten up or shot to fight them?
GBP fighters won fights but Top Rank won the money.
Two GBP PPV promoted fights with Morales and Khan grossed 50K each. Top Rank promoted fight with Cotto grossed 250K and maybe millions more on Pacquiao fight on May. Arum still the winner!!
So what? I have a large coconut for a head. Why should I not use it? Nobody cried when Bobo Brazil used his to ko guys in the 60′s and 70′s. How dare Alexander challenge me with his primitive sized head? I am the headleyweight champ of the world. I am the greatest BUTT also the most headstrong too!
Is he avoiding Timothy Headley too? The guy who recently beat Alexander for the headleyweight title? This writer feels Manny should fight everybody from flyweight to heavyweight. If Manny beat Ortiz he will then say he avoided some other fighter at 168. But Ortiz? He who beat Berto who was not tested at welter. Or Headley who has not seen a face he can not butt? Pleeeezzzeee!!!!!!!
@gotta cheat us to beat us: Better present your hard evidence before accusing someone of PEDs.
Hey chris, what was you saying when ortiz lost to maidana? He’s a coward? Now your all praises for ortiz. WTF!!!
Hahahaha…
I dont know if some of you know that Ortiz is one of Pacmans sparring partners..?
Hell, as if they havent square on the Ring…
And would Pacman gonna avoid Victor?
And guest what, Pacman advice Ortiz how to deal with Berto…
Does it mean Manny have already the plan on Berto if they meet?
But none the less, Ortiz have already done what is done…
Anyone what to square with Pacman whould fall in line.
Too bad for Berto he fall back in the line.
I meant ” Floyd should have avoided the better fighter with more belts” typing to fast
@hay; Cotto never called Floyd out and should Mayweather have ducked Baldimor who had 3 belts and was fighter of the year,just to fight Margarito with 1 title and was the lesser boxer of the 2? Should Floyd have avoided the better fighter like Manny ducked Nate Campbell who had 3 belts just to fight Diaz the lesser fighter with 1 belt? Floyd should have ducked the better fitter just to diff a nobody Margarito?
The fight would be fun to watch because of their juicing. Ortiz said he’s moving up in weight soon, watch how he climbs so many divisions in such a short period of time just like Manny.,now we are to believe ever boxer can jump weight classes and get stronger and faster with a extra tolerance for taking punches. Boxing is a joke and so is it’s testing system.
Line them up!! After Pac’s done with Mosley, Floyd is next if he grow his balls back. I think 50 Cent swallowed it all, and then Ortiz, Marquez and last is Martinez. Pac’s will fight them all at the same time if you want.
All the fighters that you say Pacquiao ducks, why doesn’t flower maynever fight them?
garbage! stupiddd writer
@Anonymous: If Filipinos = Stupid, what does that make Blacks?
Exactly. Eat a d*ck dawg.
@arums scared to go head to head with goldenboy, where would old bobby be if his fighters lost to gbp fighters on every outing, gbp are up for the challenge, whys old bobby not? old bobbys the biggest ducking promoter out there.
@Chris Williams
Of course Pacroid will avoid Ortiz. Pacroid was probably trembeling in fear ,when he saw how Ortiz fought (Speed,Power,and Skills) Pacroid will always avoid dangerous oppositions.
this chris william is so very idiot
Victor should fight one more fight b4 Pacman not b dumb and take a catch weight offer…if u want a real chance at beating Pacman…b smart Victor your the champion…
Well I can totally see a Berto vs Pacman fight now! Ortiz will have the same apportunity as Juan Manuel Marquez does for the third fight! It just wont happen! Unless Ortiz agrees to a weight draining fight where he will be at a disavantage!
@ anonymous
tell that to your country men and the floyd clans hahahahaha..!!!!!!!!!! Stop cring baby,no one’s gonna hurt you…Pacquiao is there to defend your ass hahahahahaha…
Now Berto is fully qualified to fight Pacman. I will not be surprised to get this fight now……
Why the hell Pacman will avoid Ortiz? Pacman fights anybody…i repeat…anybody in this planet earth,ok?that’s it. I just hope that after Pac vs Mosley fight, the next will be Pacman vs Ortiz fight…and i think this will proved that Pacman is the real king in boxing history. Hey,i’ve seen Floyd jr during Ortiz fights…he’s full of guilty smiling face with matching booed from the spectators.Bwahahahahaha!
@ anonymous
hahahaha!!! Don’t cry baby don’t cry..hahahaha
Pacquiao should fight the klischkos first at no catch weight, then the winner of pascal versus hopkins with no catch weight also before mayweather thinks of fighting pacman but with all the mayweathers demands such as RBT(not anymore bcoz pac agreed to it already),100 millions paycheck(for hospitalization after the fight).