Prediction: Haye to suffer KO loss against Wladimir
March 24th, 2011
By Tom David Drury: If you are to interpret this fight as two men with fragile chins then anything can happen. In reality though we are looking at a valid, proven heavyweight champion of the world against a invalid, unproven heavyweight contender. WBA heavyweight champion David Haye (25-1, 23 KO’s) has not been proven at heavyweight, by any stretch of the imagination John Ruiz, Nikolay Valuev, Audley Harrison are not serious heavyweight contenders and do not pose the dangers of Tomasz Adamek, Denis Boytsov, Ruslan Chagaev. This in itself begs the question why is Haye so eager to step into the ring with IBF/WBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko (55-3, 49 KO’s)? could it be the big payday that will fund his premature retirement.
This fight will make it to the middle rounds due to Wladimir’s reluctance to take the role of aggressor he will frustrate and hurt Haye badly with that piercing jab then finish him off in 6-7. If Haye decides to take up the role of aggressor and lets loose with those roundhouse shots he will be finished early leaving a anti-climax to the hype and promises he had the boxing world believe.
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@Ak-74 Sorry man but ur comments do wreak of u having no boxing knowledge at all. For f*cks sake man, u just said that Haye has more boxing talent than the klitschkos???!!!! Get a grip of yourself chief!!
Now more about boxing than you ever will was already involved in boxing when you where still wetting your pants Q john.Guess that you don’t now all to much about boxing,it’s not hart to see that Haye has more boxing talent than the klitschko’s could hope for. And that talent is going to win Haye all the heavyweights title’s,no sence in getting angry about it now injoye the last couple of monts that the klitschko’s are champion becorse soon it will be all away and in Hayes hands.Injoy it now for as long as it last QQ john.
a prime klitchsko dominating a prime tyson? are you mad? this shows your only going to side with klitchsko with whoever he fights.
i think haye has a very good chance vitali on the other hand is a very different story.
your article couldnt be more one sided…
ak47 reading your last post shows you know nothing about boxing.stick to the comic books
Lewis took it on short notice…he was in camp for months…vitali had been training for years…. I assume the post was a joke. I hope it was. It was either funny or beyond stupid
The klitschko’s better than tyson witch tyson? the prime tyson.A prime tyson would KO both the klitschko’s on the same night faster than he did sprinks.But David Haye will show how to beat both klitschko’s and he will beat them easy I now that the klitschko’s don’t like to hear it but get used to it becorse it’s going to be a fact!!!
@ ak47 i see it the same…either haye early or wlad towards the end
I think the point theis article makes about the fight finishing in the middle rounds because of Wladimir’s reluctance to be the agressor might work for Haye. I see Haye having to finish Wlad early as I dont see him carrying onto the later rounds when Wlad starts picking him off the with the Jab. A quick finish for haye or wlad will take this fight by round 10
@ ath…yeah i know he had some close fights maybe one or two given decisions….but still he is by far the most gifted and complete fighter in my opinion … everybody has their opinion and i respect that…you know every fighter as good as he is has a opponent who does irritate him or at least has an unorthodox style… e.g jones had problems with hopkins although he outboxed him…
styles make fights and that what i love about boxing… as I read somewhere on this site… frazier beat ali…foreman beat frazier and ali beat foreman”… anything can happen…
peace
As many have said on here Aside from a 15% knock out chance against Wlad, Haye is screwed…….I left Haye am message suggested he hire Kevin Rooney for a month or so before the fight to show Haye how to fight on the inside better against such a hug opponent…Coulda done with that intel against valuev as well…Wlads footwork is a lot better than Valuev….So yup Kevin Rooney and Holyfields old conditioning trainer for the first tyson fight Frederick C. Hatfield, Ph.D……If Haye worked with both those guys he would have a shot, but still only a shot.
fastrjjr: Ali wasnt that perfect. Fraizer beat him. Ali got some giftet decisions, in the first fight against Norton, Norton broke ali´s jaw, and outboxed him despite of that one judge had Ali as a winner. And many boxing experts felt Norton also won their second fight. And i have watch a lot of other fights with Ali, where he didnt looked like the greatest at all.
I still see Ali as a great champion, but i just dont by all the hype enymore.
“how Wladimir would hold up with the heavyweights of old Mike Tyson, Sonny Liston, Muhammad Ali etc my answer to that question is he would dominate and conquer most if not all.”
You are simply a moron…Wladimir could never be mention in the same breath as just them 3 you mentioned not too mention other greats, he is fighting 2 bob fighters in a all time weak heavy-weight division…
@ sorry I meant sanders… I just know too many boxers hehe
@anonymous … ok if your happy ….wladimir is the undisputed pound for pound best fighter of all time who ever laced up the boxing gloves….he was too good that he thought ” I have to lose convincgly against spinks and brewster”….
the best fighter of all time….
and I am the king of neverland
@andreas … first learn about boxing…. im into boxing since the age of 12 and do box in a gym for 5 years so i can claim for myself that I know a lil bit about boxing…everybody can share his or her thought about an upcoming fight but anything can happen in a fight… most of the time reality and desire dont like each other…
its true… haye can lose this fight… not because he is bad at boxing but because klitschko is bigger… thats all… both klitschkos can dream to have the skills and athletic abilities of a david haye…for me david haye is a much better boxer and when the klitschkos finally hang up the their gloves the heavyweight division will get much more interesting…
Robery you mean a ‘good big ‘un’ not a big good man. That wouldnt make sense. However the reasons for Dempsey et al’s victories were nothing to do with Klitschko not being their opponent. Thats rude ignorant and naive. But i guessed that when you spouted that over used boxing cliche which is proved wrong time and time again.
Paul Williams BOOM
Margarito BOOM
Berbick BOOM
The quote only seems to work if both fighters have identical attributes.
P.s really dissappointed that i didnt work up too many more K fans with the Tattler rumour. Just stirring to see if their fans bite
@mike come on man… you just compared ali to “vitali klitschko”… i mean come on… please its difficult to compare boxers from different eras…in his prime especially after the foreman fight ali he was considered to be the best… the best fighter pound for pound…he was a heavyweight and could land a 7-8 punch combination at will and at any time…his movement perfect… his jab perfect….his right hand perfect… his uppercut perfect…. his counter attacks perfect… his boxing IQ perfect…ring generalship perfect…chin super strong… reflexes perfect…heart unbelievable…. desire incredible…
ali had the fastest single shot ever… yes… faster than sugar ray robinson… A welterweight…
come on… shame on you to compare klitschko to the greatest…never was a klitschko top 5 pound for pound list…
yes klitschko was leading on scorecards in the lewis fight… btw not for me i had lewis one round in front… i guess the people were just tired of lewis winning all his fights …
but klitschko was cut …that means the right hands during the fight on the left side of klitschko were so hard he couldnt handle it… and that is it… klitschko couldnt win against an old fat lewis… because lewis was a great boxer…
yeah klitschko took the fight at short but he knew that any time soon he could fight against lewis and trained for years for this fight…lewis didnt even know who that klitschko was… lewis took this fight at short notice and not klitschko!!!!!!!!!!! and won anyway against a strong contender… in bad shape…. wow!!!!!!!…. wow…. super Lewis… bravo lewis….
both klitschkos can dream of a legacy of e.g ali, frazier, louis, holyfield, holmes, lewis and so on and on….
Every decent boxing fan and expert that have seen all Vlad’s recent bouts will say “KlichKO will win by way of KTFO with ease”
Hayes chances will depend upon who is appointed as referee! Remember if the fight is in Germany, Wlads chances improve quite a lot! Will the ref allow Haye to rabbit punch? I don’t think so! To beat a great fighter like Wlad Haye will need to be at his very best! Good luck to Haye, but I can’t see anything but a Klitschko win be it against Wlad or Vitali!
Big W is an ATG. Out of any emotions, realistically, Wlad will ktfo Haye. I am agree.
THE PREDICTION IS 100% CORRECT
Supposing Haye does win, I don’t believe he will be a popular champion, well not outside the UK anyway. And, if he does beat Wlad, the fight with Vitali will be HUGE! Haye will finally have some sort of real credibilty as a heavyweight and Vitali out for revenge plus ALL the belts.
Haye wants all the money he can get his hands on but he ain’t so sure of himself that’s why his mouth does the fighting for him. Not sure if his hands signed the contract. Even is feet won’t take him up that ring.
vindaloo…why would you care. besides an ex isnt going to say nice things. personally it doesnt matter to me that liston was described as horse-like and ali was supposedly “average”. ali was the greatest……
wlad in 4- if haye shows up. vindaloo you are a fruit and kinda funny.
both vladimir and haye have vulnerabilities. vladimir has a slightly better chin and hits harder. (he would have knocked out all hayes opponents, including valuev.) haye is a little faster. vladimir can be caught just as he reaches out to hold. haye can be caught right after a flurry, he gets winded and falls straight back. and, as the fight does on, he gets more vulnerable, falling straight back with his hands down….so even the slow, washed ruiz could hit him. if it goes more than 4 rounds, haye has little chance….can’t wait…
determing who was better by how fast they knocked a fighter is a signal the person doesnt know boxing. ali didnt knock out fighters as fast as foreman did, but who was better? besides, after years of steroids briggs was much bigger and stronger…
Big bad Phil
Haye is full of cheap talk and that is all. Who the hell has beaten at H/W. He didnt dare to fight Povetkin, Chagaav, Boystov etc. Arreola would have KO’d Haye also.
Do you really believe Haye can KO Vitali? Haye would need to hit Vitali several times to KO him, if at all. Even if Haye did stun Vitali, Vitali would then go into destroy mode and punch Haye into next week!
The Wraith
You mention that Vitali couldnt put Briggs down. You forgot to mention that Briggs weighed at least 25 more pounds than he did when he fought Lewis.
You also forget to mention that Vitali broke Briggs nose, fractured his eye socket and made him suffer a concussion. You can keep putting the K’s down if you like. It really doesnt matter what you say. The fact is, they will beat anyone who challenges them and that is what counts!
Read an article in some online German Tattler about a Klitshcko ex, apparently Wlad is not big in all departments. Allegedly he is a lightweight in the trouser department.
I can hear the K Bros fans with their white superiority complex denying this as their aryan poster boy.
cf
@Mike lol you got to be joking lmao
The writer says that Vlad will frustrate Haye with the Jab! I think the absolute opposite! Haye will be on the outside and will take away the jab and in turn will frustrate Vlad!! So many puddings the K brothers have fought just stay in the pocket and get jabbed!! I guarantee that Haye will not do that!!
@mike. lol ali fought 61 times in his career you muppet get your facts right. and you say he wasnt the best ye wins over foreman,frazier,shavers,liston,norton,patterson etc and then you say wlad is better lol whats wlads biggest win ibragimov lmao
mike, wake up. look at the the boxers they have faced. solis goes down with a tap yet briggs that goes down for fun takes all his punches. how many times did lewis have a peak briggs down. yet vitali can’t even put down a over the hill briggs. real hall of famers there.
The solitary reason that Haye is prepared to climb in to the ring with a Klitschko is the pecuniary aspect of it all. Haye has used the Klitschkos for his own ends for years now. By making lots of noise and pretending to want to fight a brother he has gotten more attention in the boxing world than he has earned. Finally the Hayefaker has come around and is even prepared to get knocked out to make his dream of early retirement in affluence come true all thanks to the Klitschko name and fame.
@LennoxerTyson
As all around boxer Ali wasn’t near the best,Joe Lewis was better! Ali didn’t even fight 50 fights in his whole career compaired to Wlad who has had 55 or 56 and still has 10 or more left in him!
Wlad and Vitali have fought and beaten every revelant fighter in the division.(No,Haye isn’t revelant but political!)
This is going to be a mismatch as Wlad or Vitali will destroy him EASY!
even after haye beats wladimir, everyone will still say haye aint fought anyone cause wladimir can’t take a punch. just wait & see.
@anonymous
how far are you up the klistchkos ass wlad knows he does’nt stand a chance against Haye and you can bet you bottom dollar that he pulls out before the fight and if you can’t see this you are highly delusional. over and out.
anonymous
just a perfect summary of what will happen.
I can`t believe how many people,reasonable people believe that Haye is a worthy opposition for Wlad.He has got no enough skills,power,reach or experience to be a genuine treath to Wlad.He may only chase Ukrainian boy on the stairs in some shopping centre … thats it.
Once upon a time:
The elegant Klitschko-Sisters were outdancing the robot Ali.
Their skills were superior, no Lewis and now Holyfield could meet their skills.
Especially the left hook of Vitali, it was the best manhood has ever seen.. Wladimir´s chin was too hard for the little weak Mike Tyson and both of the Klitschkos were way tooo fast for lame David Haye.
I laugh how everyone calls Vlad chinny because of his past. Haye would fold like a shirt if he was hit with the same bombs as Vlad was back in the day. Vlad today is a different fighter. No one can touch his chin. He can not be penetrated. He beats all fighters who stand in his way. He has Defense and Offense and he comes to win. Hay has no Defense. He is all offense. Hayes only defense is to run around the ring. Vlad will cut off the ring and Haye will get KTFO.
All you naive idiots who claim Haye will knock Vlad out in 1-3 rounds clearly didn’t watch the Harrison fight where it took Haye 3 rounds to throw a punch….or maybe the Valuev fight when Haye thre 10 punches or less per round for 12 rounds…with a conmection rate of 36%. HELLO! Haye has you all fooled. He knows he is gonna lose, but he is taking all you BRITS money to the bank. Call it a retirement gift
lol so sam peter is the wlads defining fight lmao. i wasnt talking about haye i know he has fought knowone but you wlad to people like ali and thats just ridiculous
@S
Comparing Wlad to Mitch Green and Trevor Berbick is an injustice. In Tysons prime he was capable of knocking anyone out. Lennox Lewis another tall fighter with supreme skills handled him easily. Might of been different in Tysons prime. I dont know how Wlad and Tyson would end up.
I am certain that Vitali would win that matchup with Tyson cuz he is so hard to hit and when does he get hit he takes it well.
@s
Those giant hw of yesteryear your talking about were NOT near as athletic as most of the giants today!Willard was a clumsy oaf who never should have been a champion in the first place!Besides Demsey himself ducked black fighters so how good was he?!
@ platty
Who has Haye beaten at heavy?(or even cruiser!)
The Kbrothers have beaten everyone around!
Don’t forget Sam Peters was suppost to be something else untill he was destroyed by both Kbrothers!
@Philly
Haye vwill beat the brothers?! lol
You must be British or black! LOL
You sometimes wonder how people think..are you crazy comparing vlad to tyson..what a she ..obviously you don’t have a clue both about boxing and writing!..you are underestimating Haye at your perilous ignorance about boxing. Mark my word Vlad is gonna get KO. By the way people like you should never bother writing..you have no wit, insight or talent.
Platty the great as Ali 220 pounds Joe Fraizer 205 pounds Norton 205 pounds Foreman 220 pounds, Tyson 220 pounds had better skill but would be to small. It’s like saying a middlewieght has better sklils which they do can beat heavywieghts. You are a joke dude.
Haye is allready ignorant. After he gets slapped around for a while he will be even worse.
Haye is going to get crushed He is too small, no defense and is basicly a poor boxer.
why bring up the greats? what a pointless discussion. and “IN REALITY” david haye is a heavyweight champion. some of the points you make are valid, such as haye’s weak opposition, but this article does nothing but belittle wladimirs opposition and you guys really need to bring something new to the table.
@Mike ye i admit the kbros are good fighters but to say they are as good as some of the greats is an insult. name me one good fighter they have beaten between them cus i cant think of one
Valuev was a champ with one previous defeat and I don’t think Ruiz previously had been stopped. Fact is haye has serious power and could probably hurt wlad it’s just wether he can get inside that rangy jab often enough to do any damage
wlad knows he does’nt stand a chance against Haye and you can bet you bottom dollar that he pulls out before the fight letting vitali chinny chin chin klitschko to step in and get knocked out. !!!!!! mark my words guys see what happens. !!!!!!
id laugh so hard if haye actually kos the kbros just see what all the kbros fans who call them the greatest ever would have to say after it
Klit will get hit by right hand hayemakers and that’s when Haye will close the deal. Vlad can try and grab and hold but hey will rabbit punch him to death. Haye will be too agile and quick and nullify Vlad’s jab by keeping the perfect distance just outside it and lateral movement. Don’t think for a minute Haye is just going to stand infront of that jab all night. Please people.
Even if Klitschko gets caught by a hayemaker, I think he has leanred when to hold and when to punch. Wald has a better chin than most will say, I think he like not to get hit if he does not have too, but who the hell does. Haye goes down by the 7th.
@anonymous
Is that why you don’t have the bottle to name youself. i think you should go back to watching netball because you sure as hell don’t know nothing about the wonderfull sport of boxing!!! some people ah!!!
Ali also NEVER went to the body,something he would have to do against taller fighters than himself! (Don’t believe he never threw body shots?Better watch his fights again then!)
@platty
Vitali is a much better fighter now than he was then.Also Lewis was losing on all the cards and was NOT coming on like many people say he was!He was gassed and VERY glad it was over!
(Yea yea he wasn’t in his best shape but Vitali was also taking the fight at the last minute!)
Why did Lewis refuse a rematch?Because he saw something in Vitali and didn’t want to take a risk!
Ali was fast but too small and his grabbing behind the head would NOT work against a man way taller,bigger and stronger!
@Big Bad Phil
“Haye will destroy wlad in two, mark my words!!!!!!!”
It took him three rounds to destroy Harrison and Harrison never threw a punch. LOL! Better learn something before you open the whole under your nose. You sound like Haye!
Wlad, the guy who was knocked down 3 times by Sam Peter and got back up has a weak chin? Sorry, but he doesnt. Lets see how Haye fares when Peter knocks him down 3 times. Everyone judges Wlad by his loses and doesnt see the big picture. His first loss he took on 2 weeks notice and didnt bother training. He went into the 11th round, and went out of gas. It wasnt because of his chin. If it was a 10 round fight, what would the result be? His next loss was a fight he never trained for either. You can clearly see him, mouth open, breathing hard, and moving to Sanders left all the time, and walking straight into his power shot. Had he trained for the fight, he would have moved to his right. His third loss he punched himself out and ran out of gas. Sanders was the only one who really nailed him and put him down. He no longer shows up for fights in poor condition. When are we going to call the greats chinny for their losses? All the greats have been beaten at one time or another (well except one). Sometimes they dont take an opponent serious, sometimes they just dont have 100% to give. Should we call Tyson chinny because a dock worker named Douglas knocked him out? Should we call Lewis chinny because a club fighter named McCall knocked him out? Should we call Ali chinny because he lost more fights than Wladimir? So, 3 losses, big deal, 2 from exhaustion, and one from getting nailed repeatedly by power shots. Hmmm, repeatedley by power shots? If he was chinny, he would have been knocked out by the first one, end of story……..
Another thing too is both Kbrothers can be boring but are much cleaner fighters than Tyson,(who fowled alot)Foreman who pushed like he was a wrestler and Ali who spent as much time holding guys in the back of the head
as he did throwing punches! Heck,Haye likes to punch guys in the back of the head and move around round after round throwing 3 punches each one! LOL
Man you guys are the one’s with no clue! lol lol lol
@Mike mate you rate vitali way too high look what lewis did too him in the worst shape of his career, wlad is better than vitali. i doubt vitali would even be able to land a glove on a prime ali
Haye’s crystal chin has to be thrown in here also there Big Bad er..Phil! lol
When two fighters meet with questionable chins I give the advantage to the bigger,harder hitting fighter!(It;s physics and Whlad is bigger,stronger and just as fast!)
I don’t care what you Britts say Haye is NOT that fast at all!
@platty
The Kbros would do well in ANY era!
They are WAY bigger than all the fighters you have mentioned and are better boxers too!
(Ali,Tyson,Foreman are great fighters but are
not great boxers!) The Kbrothers would outbox
most of the guys you just mentioned but I do agree Tyson and Foreman would have an excellent chance of catching Wlad on the chin
and taking him out but NOT Vitali!
Wlad chinny chin chin Klitschko is in a whole lot of trouble I’ll tell you!!!
you really think that wladimir would be able to beat the likes of ali, tyson, foreman and co lol. i agree wlad is a very good heavyweight and he will most probably beat haye but he would never beat any of those greats. can you imagine wlad with his fragile confidence and chin going up against foreman or prime tyson he would fold like paper and be scared to death and koed in quick time
this is not how you write an article
if you are going to make predictions you have to battle two sides of the story, you picked out only 1 (wladimir’s)
i understand you dont like haye but you may aswell just write a comment then a baised article
@BIG BAD PHIL
LOL I don’t think you really believe what you said!But in case you really do…LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!
i think you should go back to watching netball because you sure as hell don’t know nothing about the wonderfull sport of boxing. bet your house on klitchko what a silly thing to say he’s to chinny, one thinks your gunna be homeless come July!!! Haye will destroy wlad in two, mark my words!!!!!!!