Response to Simon Hirst on negatives in Boxing
By Robert Elmore: Simon Hirst wrote an excellent article about the negativity in boxing. He touched on some great points citing that most of the fans call themselves experts and that articles are not well thought out before writing. I would like to piggy back on that and add these points.
Here’s where the problem kicks in. The foreign fighters do not know how to promote themselves and are not as flamboyant as some of our American brethren. People are not exactly flocking to see a Beibut Shumenov who is the WBA light heavy weight champ or WBC middleweight champ Sebastian Zbik. But why not? It’s not that they are bad people. However, they just seem content to have a belt and fight. They have no mass appeal. The Klitschko brothers do most of their fighting in Germany. And if they do fight in the States, it’s not televised nationally (unless you have a computer you can click on ESPN site and watch them then or have every sports channel known to man). Sergio Martinez is just now breaking ground and it will be interesting to see what he does with his fame. As for Tavoris Cloud and Steve Cunningham; what are they doing to separate themselves from the pack? Can’t be too much because I don’t see nobody knocking down their doors trying to get a fight. Good fighters, no mass appeal.
Two of my favorite fighters Larry Holmes and Marvin Hagler had everything that came with being a great champion. There was one thing lacking though; mass appeal. For Hagler, he chose not to deal with the public, but rather drub his way to the top. At one point in time, he had a chance to leave the Petronelli’s, instead he stayed. I believe he could have found a better promoter and got the recognition early on instead of getting it two fights before his retirement.
Source: Marvin Hagler SportsCentury
For Holmes, while his resume is outstanding, there were only three BIG fights that the seats were packed to capacity; and they were Tyson, Spinks, and Cooney (although he did pretty good against Ray Mercer and Evander Holyfield). Even when he fought Cooney Holmes said “I fight 4 black guys and make no money. I fight one white guy and make all the money” (Legendary Nights). Even some of the back in the day fighters had skill, good success, but no mass appeal. Example; “The Original Magic Man” Marling Starling , Buddy McGirt, Mark Breland, Donald Curry, Milton McCrory, Livingston Bramble; Johnny “Bump City” Bumphus, Tony “TNT” Tubbs and Tucker, and some of our foreign brethren; Simon Brown; Mike McCallum; Jeff Fenech; Dennis Andries, Again, great fighters, but how would they fair in today’s economy marketing wise?
Face time: Boxing isn’t going any where. I believe its going through major changes. Many of the critics don’t take the time to know or do research on these foreign fighters therefore the negativity comes. If they are not American fighters, a lot of people’s eyes are automatically shut. I think it’s just a mere case of wanting American fighters to reclaim the glory of yester-year and bring the titles back to American hands. As for the growth of MMA, they don’t make nearly as much as boxers. They basically fight for skittles and frozen cokes. So it only makes sense that they fight any and everybody. But I guarantee this, if MMA/UFC begins to get bigger and capture bigger audiences, and start getting paid more money, changes will indeed take place. This will cause yet another search for another to watch and negative comments to fly.

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Boxing = head butting bad judges terrible refs.fighters that quit and cry……….the best fighting the worst,The old fighting the young,The old fighting the older and son and so forth
All I know is-when AA fighters reigned supreme there was interest in the sport.once 3rd world countries got involved the sport saw it’s decline. I would blame Boxing’s decline on certain Promoters insistence on putting on in house fights instead of the best matches. Arum is the biggest culprit! All he had to tell Manny was “take the test” and we would see the biggest fight in history
@Trouble…
Those fighters you named have established themselves and can command that kind of cash. Others can’t. As far as watching MMA, I tried to get into it, but watch two guys roll around and just lay on top of each other just doesn’t cut it for me.
@Malik: You are probably right. I was thinking mostly of US boxers eventhough I mentioned K2 and Haye. It’s just that there is more of a buzz about MMA than there is about boxing recently here in the US. Besides a Pac/PBF fight, no one cares besides the hardcore boxing fans. Also, when it comes to household names, there are no new or rising star to speak of. Everyone still remembers guys like DLH, Roy Jones, Tyson, and Hopkins. No one knows who Bradley, Alexander, Ward, Dawson, P. Williams are.
@ Trouble
I am german and i gotta say that here in Europe the money is in Boxing!
For example, Felix Sturm made 6 million for fighting two Journeyman like Hearns and Lorenzo. Arthur Abraham made 10 million during his reign as the IBF-MiddleweightChamp and even he get smashed around in the SUper Six, he makes still alot of Money. The K2 are making 20 million each a year and alot with commercials etc ( They are popular as moviestars here). Haye made 10 million to “fight” Fraudley. People turned away from Boxing in the US but in Europe Boxing has its Golden Age.
Like it or not, I think MMA is surpassing boxing. The UFC has, it seems like, a PPV every month and I want to guess it averages about 500,000 PPV. Sure Pac and Mayweather can do over a million PPV’s but they only fight like 4 times a year between the two of them.
Take away Pac and Mayweather and I’m willing to bet the top 10 highest paid guys in MMA and boxing are pretty similar. I read somewhere guys like GSP, Couture, Liddell, Tito, Lesnar makes anywhere from $4-$7 mil a year. How many boxers can say they make that much? Pac, Mayweather, K2, Haye
I feel boxing is NOT show busniess.Fighters should fight(sport)and let marketing be for the writers and sponsors. I feel these elaborate overdone entrance with band and costume is not needed and it is show business. Get regular guys (without tattoos) or hairdoos,in good shape, and have skills and people will watch a good sport like they always do.