How could Floyd Mayweather make things difficult in the ring for Manny Pacquiao?
January 25th, 2011
By Tony Lee: I recently wrote a brief article (which can be found here:
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2011/01/why-would-manny-pacquiao-give-floyd-mayweather-problems/) detailing some of the reasons why, should a bout ever take place between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao, Mayweather would have his hands full. But I also think Pacquiao would experience difficulties in fighting Mayweather as well. So now I will try to render an unbiased evaluation from the other side of the coin.
2. DEFENSE. Floyd Mayweather is arguably the best defensive fighter in boxing.
Only Joshua Clottey gets hit less. But where Clottey lacks stamina and late
round determination, Mayweather has both, and he has a much more active offense to boot. Throughout the course of his life, Pacquiao has made a career of
beating aggressive, come-forward fighters. Those kinds of fighters play into his
hands, because no one can match the Pacquiao’s quick, accurate, high volume
punch output. But what happens when Pacquiao finds out that most of his punches are being dodged, absorbed, or deflected? Either one of two things can happen: (a) He hits them in the gloves all day long and wins a decision (see the Clottey fight), or (b) He gets potshotted in between punches, and starts to break down in the later rounds. With a fighter who possesses the extraordinary defense and aforesaid counterpunching ability of Mayweather, Pacquiao might be in for a
rough ride.
3. SIZE. Floyd Mayweather is naturally larger than Manny Pacquiao. While
Pacquiao is currently a natural light welterweight, Mayweather is a natural
welterweight. Pacquiao came in at 148 pounds (on fight night) against Antonio
Margarito for their light middleweight bout. When he gets any heavier than 148
pounds, he becomes noticeably more sluggish and gives up many of the advantages he would have against comparably sized fighters. Most welterweights have a relatively difficult time making the 147 pound limit for weigh ins, but after
they rehydrate themselves, their weight shoots up considerably for fight night.
Mayweather has gotten bigger since his last couple of fights. In his fight with
Shane Mosley, he looked to be at least 155 pounds. If a fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao were ever to occur, Pacquiao would be giving up 6-8 pounds on fight night. Anyone who has had ring experience knows that even a few pounds of extra weight can considerably impact the outcome of a fight.
4. STYLE. Manny Pacquiao excels at fighting people who come forward to meet him,
but how would he do against a counterpuncher of Mayweather’s caliber who stands back and lets his opponent come to him? It is possible that Pacquiao becomes like a deer in the headlights. He hasn’t fought someone as fast as Mayweather, and when his punches are being absorbed while he is being hit back with quick, crisp counters, he might think twice about coming in. This happened to Shane Mosley. Mosley kept a good amount of pressure on Mayweather in the early rounds, but he was soon dissuaded from coming in by Mayweather’s jabs, and he was relegated to trying to box from the outside. But you should never try to outbox a boxer, unless you’re a better boxer than that boxer. Pacquiao, like Mosley, is not a pure boxer; so if he has any chance of beating Mayweather, he has to keep his pressure constant and not get dissuaded by Mayweather’s jab.
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when some one makes fun of Floyd the same people dissing this article would say “awesome article brilliant” but now are whining about it being biased the writer wrote a brilliant article addressing how he feels floyd will give manny trouble and has pointed to an article where he states why Pacquiao would give floyd trouble so be objective
The only way Floyd will make things difficult for Manny in the ring is if he jumps in the ring while Manny is fighting Mosley and starts making funny faces at him.
Writer is an idiot. Title alone is biased. How can P*ssy Boy Floyd counter 6-8 power combos? You can’t win a fight just by defense alone. Pac’s opponents are mostly bigger in size, frame and has longer reach.
@ dove liar… just as you praised your god you dont know what you are saying. Have you heard the phrase “PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE”? POL SCI 1 dove liar, LOL
You are one of those Filipinos that keep on believing what they wan’t to believe w/o analyzing all the facts. With what you said you just made paquiao guilty. LOL If you are a defense lawyer your client steroid man will end up in JAIL… MABUHAY KA KABAYAN… W/O A DOUBT MAYWEATHER WILL BEAT YOUR GOD STEROID MAN, I MEAN PACMAN… LOL
Pacman got dropped by a jab. He was in agonizing pain. Need I say more?
I wont fight mayweather because my gravy train will stop and my legacy will forever be tarnished because I already turned down a 50 million dollar drug test for a 75000 dollar fake gag order lawsuit because I am not a man, I am a poor victimized saint demi god boxer who is a perfect person who tucks in all my fans at night. Even though I show all the symptoms of a drug cheat, all I have to say is that I never failed a test and thats enough for my little minions to believe. whew, I’m just glad I’m not american, I would be under grand jury investigation already.
I love you my little pactard minions, now go be annoying, and not fake humble like myself!
Let us put it like this ,or me put it like this when they are both at thier best we just don,t know but at thier best floyd would have head movement that Pac won,t be able to hit that easy as was Margarito or other fighters.
Counter punching: I do agree that floyd is a very skilled counter puncher and his timing is probably his greatest assest besides defense but manny is no slouch in any regards with his counter punching abilities…this isnt the manny with one hand anymore folks his jab/hook is one of the quickest and accurate…
DEFENSE:
hands down i give that to mayweather about being a defensive genius and has way better than pacquiao…pacquiao doesnt have great defense but hes more than average defense….the thing with all this is that manny doesnt mind getting hit and is willing to take your 2 shots for the 4-6 punch combos hes going to throw and his accuracy is beyond compare…
SIZE:
im not going to really discuss this because the size wont bother manny as hes faced bigger opponents…
STYLE:
styles do make fights and mayweathers style is to defend and pot shot you and counter off your mistakes but in doing all that he is making a mistake if you think about it…(let that marinate a lil)…ok for everyone that has watched mayweather fight he isnt a combination puncher…yes he does throw combos but they arent anything beyond jab,straight, hook…hes very basic with his punching but just very knowledgable of when to use all of them…
@Terribio el Nino
you are the one who needs to watch boxing more and learn…..I watch boxing and I have boxed in a ring before so dont tell me what I dont know…..ALI was a very mobile(backing up) fighter so is he a coward???no pactard, he is the GOAT…. get your facts straight
they are going to do a LIVE broadcast of mayweather and pacquiao negotiating. mayweather is going to come to the table with a contract, with his name already signed which includes a 0 day cut off, take it or leave it. Now pacman is going to use the excuse “im afraid of needles”, people please do not fall for this LIE. there are pictures/videos of this man giving and donating blood with use of needles. then his other excuse will be ” i wont feel comfortable afterwards” then here comes freddy the joke roach and his popular phrase,” boxing is not only a physical game, its also a mental game too”.. all of this is bullsht,,, did they forget that mayweather is also taking blood tests just as much as him?? so what do they do? they leave the negotiation on LIVE tv and you see who the cowards are…(Bob Arum, Manny Pacquiao, Freddy ‘The Joke’ Roach)
@WTF
Good points on the testing issue. I wasn’t aware that Pacquiao was imposing conditions on Mosley, but if he is, he should be subject to the same. It doesn’t matter that Mosley had been caught, Mayweather still subjected himself to the same test as Mosley, why can’t Pacquiao. On the RBT with no cut-off, Mayweather was not asking anything of Pacquiao that he himself would not have been subject to. It should be equal on both sides.
Mayweathers offense is made for over punching boxers like pacquaio,, mayweathers defence and counter punching would shut pacman down,, and make him look like an amature,,then once he beats pacman you will never even hear about a pacman again,,, he is just too over hyped its getting rediculous,,,, he only fights slow weight drained and old and coming off of a lost fighters…oh and lets not forget his favorite opponets….boxers with no head movement……
@Terribio el Nino
i can tell that your an idiot pactard from the pactard nation,,,, what you just idioticly just said is that any boxer who back up right after the bell rings is a coward……So would u say ALI was a coward??? make some since pactard
I just don’t understand why we are arguing, its a endless debate! I’m about to write out a proposal and send it to golden boy and top rank so we can get results. I think floyd should get a quick fight in the fall of 2011, he could fight Andre Berto, Miguel cotto, Bradley or Alexander and then after that fight Floyd could challenge Manny in January of 2012.
Tell me what you guys think of this proposal
Fight: Las Vegas Nevada
Purse: 60/40 spilt winner takes all or 50/50
Weight: 147
Stipulations: both fighters take random blood testing 7-14 days before the fight.
Important: make this announcement publicly and if both fighters or one fighter declines it then we will all know the truth of why the fight is not happening.
Ill be writing this proposal soon so tell me what else should be added or discarded
Thanks.
my goodness the apctards are overwhelming on this article,,,first these pactards say the author is biased,,, but if you pactards would actually read the article instead of just coming on here and leaving offensive remarks towrd mayweather you would see that the author also wrote an article on how pacquiao could give mayweather problems too…. mayweather UD
He will cause problems for manny bc he wont do what all mannys fighters do and lead with their chin… Mayweather will force manny to box not fight n manny wont be able to,handle it bc he cannot adapt during the fight… but he may land one like mosley did if so then its goodnight…
I like Manny and get annoyed at FMJ but see FMJ shutting Manny out.
this writer is on some kind of drugs
What I’m about to write really does not have anything to do with this article, but more or less many of the comments about Manny being on PEDS. First of all I think there is a big misconception that Mayweather accused Pacquiao of being of PEDS, I say misconception because it was Mayweather SR. who made comments about that. Secondly, asking someone to take a more stringent form of testing, is not the same as accusing them of taking PEDS. In my humble opinion, Manny and Manny alone is responsible for the backlash that resulted from him not subjecting himself to the testing. None of this became an issue until Pacquiao’s refusal, and if that was not bad enough, there were several excuses as to why he did not want to subject himself to that type of testing, and two years later, reguardless of the fact that he has not fought Mayweather, he still has not taken that type of testing. So here we are two years later, still no fight, and Manny now wants to subject his next opponent to the same type of testing, Mayweather proposed to him, don’t get me wrong, I get it, Mosley is an ADMITTED cheater, but how hypocritical is that? In closing Manny has made this whole drug issue out to be way bigger than Mayweather ever did.
To the people that think Floyd is scared you all are stupid, it was Manny that wouldn’t give blood two weeks before fight, turned down millions and then fought clottey for peanuts, but now he’s fighting Mosley just for the money ummm I wonder what was in Manny blood he couldn’t take test first time
That’s why Manny won’t fight jmm. Again he will get exposed and look bad
It wasn’t just Mayweather’s jab. Them overhand rights did a number on Mosley too, along with the lead left hook. How are you going to say that Mayweather weighed 155lbs in the Mosley fight when he said himself that he was unable to put on any weight at all between the weigh in and fight night? If you think he was lying that’s cool but to just make things up doesn’t seem to serve any true purpose.
Excellent article, remember when the fight was first announced, Mayweather was favored and for good reason. Pacquiao’s would only have a lucky punch of a chance bacause he’s not used to pure boxes. Mayweather would adapt because he has fought more pressure fighters than Pacquiao has fought pure boxers.
“But what happens when Pacquiao finds out that most of his punches are being dodged, absorbed, or deflected?”
if the slower mosley was able to tag floyd, what more if it was the stronger, faster pac?
@Filipino (Kuno)
In the Philippines every accused is innocent until proven guilty
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These sentence is not belong to the philippine justice. I think you’re not a Filipino. In the philippines it is the other way around. Every accused is guilty before they are proven innocent. LOL!
PS: Pac aint NEVER ever tested dirty and P.E.D. stands for PUTTIN EM’ DOWN!!!!
1) Marquez aint got NOTHING on Pac cuz Pac is a COMPLETE machine now, not the one handed fighter of yesteryear so throw that s__t out! 2)Clottey might have his faults BUT he’s got one of the best defense in the sport and he got his ass beat 3) Everybody act like Pac aint fast enough to hit Floyd! Mayweather done got wobbled in the last 4 fights throwing wide open punches! From bums at that , so what happens when he gets hit with super fast , hard hitting combinations from all kinds of weird angles by the next best fighter in the game? A prideful man shall be brought low and a man of humbleness shall be exalted! VIVA PACQUIAO!!!
i agree with boxing commitee. winner take all
unfortunately promoters are not biting such a deal. unless paying fans unite
First of all anyone could win this fight, there both awesome fighters. But I just don’t get why people are arguing about an imaginary bout that might not happen! We need to do something about this because all we are doing is talking about who is better and who is to balme for the fight not happening. I don’t balme manny or floyd. I blame boxing because they don’t regulate what is suppose to happen! This sport gives boxers too much freedom to do what they want, and there should be rules to abide by! If a commitee can ban a boxer from the sport then manny vs mayweather should be happening! I do feel there should be a blood test in boxing because this a one on one sport and plus its a contact sport, I’m not giving floyd an excuse, and I’m not calling manny a user, I just think that it would be fair. I haven’t heard anything about the blood testing either, all I see is janky author writing half correct article that are repetitive! Top rank or gold boy didn’t try hard enough to get this fight started. If I were bob arum I would go conference call and tell the media that we challenge floyd to a fight at 147, the purse will be 60/40 winner takes all or just 50/50, the fight would he in Las Vegas and Manny would take the random blood testing up to 14 days to 7 days maximum till the fight and if Floyd didn’t agree to that then he will have no excuses left to say. Tat is what I would do! But as of right now there has not been any truth about the blood testing or talking about this fight, people are naive and will believe anything so please help get this fight started because talking amongst arguments will never help boxing or this fight.
JAIL TIME FOR FLOYDIE HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
floyd is going to JAIL…BWAHAHAHAHAHA..WOMAN BEATER
Floyd saying that he can beat Manny Pacquiao,EASILY!
If he is really positive that he can,why not fight,whatever Pacquiao is on.During the Iraq invasion Kuwait,the UN-led Coalition sided with the smaller country,though they know that the Iraq have the SCUD missile.It is because we have the Patriot
missile as an ANTIDOTE.
Floyd Mayweather don’t have an ANTIDOTE for Manny Pacquiao’s
arsenal of brute power.I’ll give the superior skill to Floyd but
the heart to Manny.
I for one want to see this fight,and would be willing to pay
extra to be there.But it has to happen soon and not when they are past their prime.
so anthony and tony lee is one guy with different perspective.
any part 3 and tell us who’s the best and who’s the thorn.
@ Filipino
Show first enough hard and solid evidence that Pac is using PEDs before he takes the test. Boxing is taking place for so long without that stupid test. Those boxing commissions are not dumb letting Pac get away with PEDs every time he fight. Think about it…
this one is unbiased and REAL
1. COUNTERPUNCHING. manny hit first before counterpunch came in. just like hatton trow a punch in the air & didn’t realized he was hit first.
2. DEFENSE. no doubt floyd need so much of this
3. SIZE. diaz hatton cotto clottey DLH margarito have it but not able to use it
4. STYLE. punches overwelm floyds style. better go back to no. 2
All Floydie fans’ tell your idol to cut the BS and be man enough to face Pac.
And to those who believe that Pac is in PEDs, you’re just like your idol…I guess you already know what I mean. Hahaha
“floyd make things difficult for manny”
so you admit manny’s the best fighter and floyd is the best spike
@ reality check, pacman has the right to fight anyone arum choses, has the right to fight anyone old dehydrated fighter anyone in catchweight. be rady Mr Rocky Marciano you will fight the pacman @ 140lbs. lol
In the Philippines every accused is innocent until proven guilty. So Manny SteroidMan is innocent, then why take the Blood Test? you are innocent!!! right? lol
“Shane Mosley, I will fight you at 142 pounds and a 70/30 purse split.”
“What was that, you will take it?” “oh, wait, I was just saying that because i didnt think you would take that fight.”
“Maybe next year when you cant make 147 and are coming off losses”
Yours truly,
Pacdrain
p.s. take your celebrex, I need to look good.
Yeah, when pac admits his head growth to a reporter, I cant choose to not give him the benefit of the doubt. Its what intelligent people call deductive reasoning.
As for more deductive reasoning: wouldn’t a fighter who is “scared of needles” be likely to be scared of an undefeated talented fighter? lol.
Dont get it twisted, pac is the challenger in this scenario by every means, to call floyd scared of pac when he’s dominated bigger guys with better ko records and undefeated is plain stupid.
Sorry marquez and morales wrote the book on beating manny, and dont tell us he is a better boxer, he’s just better at picking the roadkill matchups.
@realitycheck: if PBF has the guts to fight pacquiao, then why accuse him of PED use. He has not tested eversince with PED use. Ruling out the commission by demanding testing procedures he will know pac will not abide by. If he is very confident and sure he beats the “poochiao midget” then fight him immediately. all those olympic style testing demands and PED accusations (with no proof at all) are just bull@#$%.
just see it yourself so you might come out of your fantasy to see the reality that Floydie is hesitant and scared to fight the most competitive fighter in the sport. Pac has all the right to fight anyone who comes his way because he loves to fight. he just has the blood of a fighter. your floydie has the blood of a drug user and pusher. lol
@IAM BOXING ******* i think manny owns that crown with all the top boxers he has bein avoidin the last two years. oh yea since its manny its called smart buissness.
It’s already difficult for Pacquiao to bring Floyd in the ring.
Boxing itself in the ring is not easy.I’m not going to predict who is going to win,As far as I know Floyd is not fighting within a year.He’s saying he going to whoop Pacquiao ass,he is showing weakness there,ALL BARK NO BITE!
One thing i agree in this article is the counter punching. Pacquiao had difficulties with counter puncher like Marquez. Floyd defensive stance are tailored for orthodox fighter only that’s why Pacquiao can break his defense. Regarding with size, its never gonna be a factor or advantage for Floyd. Pacman fought bigger opponents and those guys (Clottey, Cotto, Margarito) punch much harder than Floyd. For Floyd to win against Pacman, he must go for Punch-Clinch-Run style for the whole 12 rounds.
@realitycheck: please don’t let manny fight me. I don’t want to lose my “0″. I am the greatest and I want to retire and be known as the undisputed and undefeated best pound for pound fighter in the planet! lol
@allan manny isnt payin u any money off his nuts.
pac needs to clean out a division first, then maybe he might be worthy to fight floyd. He can start with berto after he takes his licks from old shane.
I will just rather want to go to jail than to fight Pacquiao. He is just so unbeatable at this time. Maybe I’ll just wait him to retire so I can have the #1 P4P slot again. Thank you for your support… lol
Terrible Arcticle…. one sided fool
the author also wrote an article about how pacquiao would make things difficult for mayweather. so it seems pretty unbiased to me
Oh and another thing he turned down millions, but he’s fighting Mosley just for the money, Manny wanted no parts of Mosley till he saw he can be beat Pac is a joke
Unbiased!!!! R u effing kidding me?! Do you call this article unbiased? U Must be another what’s his name fan! Why don’t you convince your idol to come of hiding and stop beating up women and security officers and fight the Pacman. If he’s so good and can kick the midget’s @SS why is all this demand? Ha!, what a loser! Just like the writer of this article.
Yeah style, talking about an unbiased view:
quote from the author: “Manny Pacquiao excels at fighting people who come forward to meet him,
but how would he do against a counterpuncher of Mayweather’s caliber who stands back and lets his opponent come to him?”
Floyd who will roll his shoulders, and keep running away just to avoid getting hit, and thus, becomes a chess-like match.
I also believe Mayweather would win, although I prefer to watch pacquiao’s fight.
I myself really want to see this fight happen.. ULTIMATE DEFENSE vs NON-STOP OFFENSE! Overhyping this megabout may just end as no bout at all. Pacman is 32 and Floyd at 33. This bout is just as non-exciting if they agree to fight past their prime.. Time will come Manny will just focus on his political reforms and i hope floyd is not waiting for manny to retire by focusing on his illegal and unethical stuffs..
@bri:
BLAME FLOYD for hiding, CHECK YOUR FACTS Floyd fans.
My reply only is for #2.
Defense, yes defense, that’s why the fight becomes BORING, when FLoyd runs all the time.
@one left hook. im with you on that one. personaly i think floyd would pick manny apart. others think manny would knock floyd out. unfortunetly us fans are the loosers. we will never be able to see who is correct. they are both messed up for not makin this bout work.
enough of all the speculations, analysis and theories regarding this megafight!!!
they should both meet inside the ring to prove who’s the best pound for pound in the world! floyd … please stop your PED accusations… pacman is already ready to have PED testing (even though he HAS NOT tested positive for any PEDs) just to make the fight possible. If you think you can beat the “midget,” then fight him with no more hesitations and excuses! Walk your Talk!