The Klitschkos should give Haye zero choice – Either fight Vitali or forget it
December 26th, 2010
By Scott Gilfoid: WBA heavyweight champion David Haye has tipped his hand by saying he wants to fight IBF/WBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko rather than his brother WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko. Frankly, I smell a rat and I don’t like it.
I saw this in Haye’s heavyweight bouts against Monte Barrett, John Ruiz and Audley Harrison. Haye’s bout against World Boxing Association heavyweight champion Nikolay Valuev was the only fight at heavyweight where I didn’t see Haye clobbering his opponents in the back of the head while they were attempting to clinch.
It wasn’t possible for Haye to land his shots in close against Valuev because the big Russian bear didn’t attempt any clinches in the fight. But Wladimir does like to clinch and quite often. He clinches about six to ten times per round. Heck, clinching had become part of Wladimir’s game to the point where I don’t think he can stop himself from doing it even if he’s made to realize that it might be a dangerous thing in a fight against someone like Haye.
Since I can’t see any real change being made in Wladimir’s game in such a short period of time, I say Wladimir and Vitali give Haye no other choice but to fight Vitali or nobody. It’s not that Wladimir wouldn’t wipe the deck with Haye all night long in a normal boxing match, it’s that the guy seems to specialize in taking apart his opponents when they attempt to clinch.
Wladimir can’t fight back in that kind of bout. He has no chance. Vitali needs to take this fight for a couple of reasons: 1. He doesn’t clinch and 2. Vitali’s chin is much better than Wladimir, so even if Haye does go rabbit punch crazy in the fight, it won’t have the same effect on Vitali as it would Wladimir.
The Klitschkos need to tip off the referee to be ready to penalize and disqualify Haye if and when he starts going rabbit hunting. The referee needs to nip that behavior in the bud immediately by taking of points immediately before someone gets seriously hurt.
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Nevermind Vitali or Volodmyr fight Haye. I wanna see what Travis Kauffman can do with Brothers Klitschko!
@insider…lol…4-5 rounds?? Unless haye is allowed to take a revolver of some sort into the ring with him that is never going to happen..
Boxing Observer: it is very obvious, Wlad and Vitali is like most boxing fans, sick and tired of Hayes clowning.
@ Canuck
with a 95% hit ratio maybe you should write for the ring magazine ….. or atleast gift us with some of your own thoughts on the upcoming Haye Vs Wladimir/Vitali fight
and sooooooo defensive its not often somebody agrees with Gilford … surely this is brain washing
good to hear your such a devoted servant of the sport old timer … shame ur wasting it all agreeing with the most anti-british person alive … yes including Robert Mugabe !!!
The klitchko’s manager starts or ends every email to Adam booth with “there is no point negotiating”. What do they really want? I think they want haye to fight for nothing as deep down they know it will be they’re last fight. By the way I’m not a haye fan but he is too athletic and too strong to lose
Why would it matter which brother Haye faces if your so confident of them both smashing him in to oblivion. It really wouldn’t matter would it if you were so confident. It sounds to me like your starting to have doubts about Wlad beating Haye. Getting worried are we Scott. Starting to actually think about each fighters strengths and weaknesses and realising Haye has a great chance of exposing Wlads weak chin. If you truly were absolutely confident of Vilali or Wlad beating Haye which you have said on numerous occasions then why would you write an article about how the Klitchko’s should give Haye an ultimatum saying it should be Vlad or know one. Getting scared are we Scotty boy.
In a previous article Scott, you mentioned that both of the Klitchko brothers would easily beat Haye, so why should they give him zero-choice which one he fights as you put it?
Are doubts starting to creep in that Haye might catch Wladimir with a clean knock-out punch and dash your hopes of seeing him lose? You don’t seem so confident now for some reason.
well I don,t think Haye will want to fight in that close very much,and wlad will be timeing him for his clinching.he learned a little in his close to sixty pro fights.
wanted the belt for years and ducked valuev..when valuev was 1st champion wlad was busy winning the other belts then along came chagaev who took valuevs wba title who in turn got it robbed off him outside the ring in boxing politics.when chagaev decided to step into the ring with wlad in the absence of david haye he should have been the wba champion not valuev so shows how much u actually know….wlad will wipe the floor with haye like the rest of them even in a clinch hel atempt to hit wlad but will be unsuccesfull…in my opinion wlad wud dominate haye…and i think haye wud have a better chance against vitali cause hes about 90 now lol
how do you know Canuck knows little about boxing ?
he just agreed with Scott Gilford
“.. theyve been wanting Hayes belt for years but would never fight Valuev for it.”
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Sorry to be blunt, but that’s nonsense. You really believe that someone who went toe-to-toe with Lennox Lewis is afraid of the very limited Valuev? Come on — Valuev was beaten by Chagaev years ago, and Chagaev was blown out of the ring by Wladimir.
If someone tells you the Klitschkos avoided Valuev, you know straight away that they live in David Haye Fantasyland instead of reality.
Just because they are brothers they get to pick who fights Haye first its up to Haye as much as it is them, Haye wants there belts and theyve been wanting Hayes belt for years but would never fight Valuev for it. So its an even playing field and they all want to smash each other.So it should be a 50/50 fight all the way.
And yes people know Haye will KO Wlad in about 4-5 rounds, but Hayes real test is Vitali which personally I think he can do it if he doesnt make to many mistakes and get caught too much. It would be a real tough fight for him.
i have read this twice and all i can say is ” im confused”. thankfully this is a regular thing for me when i read scotts articals.
Haye would use masterclass point scoring tatics and win the fight UD
ps Scott is Kn0b
shagalang you are so right man! This site is like the National Enquirer of boxing. No idea where they get these tools to write for them.
My favorite part of this article was when Gilfoid said Wladimir could whip Haye in a “NORMAL” boxing match.
few points about the article:
1) Rabbit punches and consistent clinching – both are illegal in boxing and both get away with them, if a referee stops haye from “working on the inside” and allows wladimir to clinch consistently without points deductions then Wlad has an unfair advantage … best is to stop both or let both go
2) as Gilford puts it “Tip the referee off about rabbit punches” – influencing the referee into making a decision before the fight occurs = cheating because pne fighter has an unfair advantage over the other
3) Wladimir passing the fight to Vitali – it must be so hard in negotiations for all 3 boxers because nobody has any real idea who is fighting who ! too many egos, too many stipulations, too much money, too much at stake for me
Wladimir and Vitali will kill haye
I care less what bro Haye fights, just sign a contract and get a date slated for 2011… Either way, Haye gets dusted… Klit power is just too great…. Peace..
MR.BILL
Wladimir is the real heavyweight champion of the world, so anyone who aspires to that title will want to fight him. Vitali has chosen not to fight his brother, and that’s his choice, but it means he will not be the real champion.
Wladimir could, of course, refuse to fight Haye. But there’s no way he’d even think of doing this. For one, his credibility would be shot — Wladimir called out Haye a year ago in the most public manner, and has been essentially calling Haye a ducker ever since. Wladimir would be a laughingstock (and deserverdly so) if he suddenly refused to fight Haye.
More importantly, however, Wladimir really wants to fight someone who is considered to be a real contender. Haye may or may not be the real deal, but he’s the best choice at the moment for a worthwhile title fight.