Roach thinks Marquez is a more profitable opponent for Pacquiao than Mosley
November 26th, 2010
By Chris Williams: Trainer Freddie Roach likes the idea of Manny Pacquiao fighting Juan Manuel Marquez next, and thinks a fight between them would be more profitable than a fight against 39-year-old Shane Mosley. Speaking with Philboxing.com, Roach said “Manny and Marquez have a history between them. You know, they’ve fought twice, and they were close fights. Marquez knows Manny and knows what gives Manny trouble. Marquez has proven that in two fights. both fights went the distance. Marquez has been down four times in two fights, but he’s gotten up and made the fight. Marquez is a very durable guy and he’s got an audience and a fan base behind him. So he’s marketable.”
Pacquiao is likely going to be matched against the fading Mosley next rather than Marquez, because Arum has been talking recently and has mentioned Mosley as a possible opponent. Mosley is a good opponent in terms of money, but not for a competitive fight. I don’t think Pacquiao will win fans beating up on a 39-year-old Mosley, especially if the fight goes for $55 like Pacquiao’s bout against Antonio Margarito went for. If Pacquiao is going to be fighting Mosley, Arum should discount it by $50 and sell it at $5 on PPV, because that’s what I think a Pacquiao-Mosley fight is worth. It’s a mismatch, and about as bad as the Pacquiao-Margarito bout.
Tags: 76 Responses to “Roach thinks Marquez is a more profitable opponent for Pacquiao than Mosley”
Leave a Reply
please use above banner to link back to us!
Pacquiao vs Marquez @ 147 Pacquiao by KO 1st round.
Who he beat last night? Katsidis? Who’s Katsidis? If Marquez beat like Khan, Bradley or Alexander then there’s a case for a 3rd fight. But he beat Katsidis? He’s nobody compared to Pacquiao’s level. I think Berto has case to fight Pacquiao and they’re both at welterweight. There’s no issue of weight draining Pacquiao. If Marquez want a 3rd fight with Pacquiao then it should be on Pacquiao’s terms.
Pac already moved on and left Marquez years ago if Marquez really wants to make a statement as to how good he is then he needs to fight at 147 as Pacquiao dictated.
If it happens I hope they make it at 140 and not 147.
pacquiao have beatten all the mexican warroirs and what else Marquez wants to prove to Pacquiao. if you are a boxing fans you might have to think the other way around..period
@nissan.350..
The last fight Pacquiao vs Marquez was 130 lbs not a catchweight you M0R0N. Get your facts straight.
@Mexican…
You want Pacquiao to weigh drain to fight Marquez? I’ve heard now that Marquez is asking for catchweight. If Marquez can’t make to a welterweight limit then Pacquiao has nothing to prove to him. Pacquiao technically beat him twice. The first was a draw and one of the judges committed a mistake on the 3 knocked down. He voted 10-7 instead of 10-6. The second was won by Pacquaio. And also I think Katsidis might send Marquez to retirement. lol
I would rather see Pac fight Marquez, but the weight would be a tough consideration.
Marquez wants this so badly he would agree to almost anything, his camp has to be careful.
It seems 140 would be reasonable for a trilogy fight. No belt, just fighting for pride.
ooohhh… pitty marquez… chasing the 8x division champ
you have to admit pacman wants to weigh
@ mexicutioner,
You and ignorant Pacquiao lovers should learn the basic of boxing before you post comments. Since Pacquiao is invincible lets make a fight between him and Marquez. Lets make it very simple and even play field to see how is the best. Pacquiao come down to 140 and Marquez come up to 140 whoever win is the best. But from the sound of Pacquiao fans and Freddie Roach they want to fight an old man at 147. What happened to Pacquiao superiority? He needs a handicap against old men? I smell fear. Pacquiao is the best offensive fighter right now and Mayweather is the best defensive fighter right now. They both full of BS. Mayweather and Pacquiao are the best cherry pickers of all times.
@jordan
no body can give you proof of pac taking PED’s if he doesnt take the test…. thats like me trying to catch you cheating on a test when im not even in the room…. and ROACH himself said mosley was too good thats why he wanted to bring him down to 142 because he’s “not going to put his fighter in a fight where he’s in an obvious disadvantage” Youtube pacquaio exposed its on the tape dude
AS IVE SAID EARLIER IN MY POST WHEN PAC AND MARQUEZ FOUGHT LAST TIME AT THE CATCHWEIGHT OF 139 MARQUEZ WON IT
@ this is god;
you said :
“. . . i mean seriously is it me or does pac, arum, fans, and roach all have split multiple personality disorders and flip flop week to week.”
———————–
seriously, i think it is YOU ! lol !
and don’t claim you are “god” , you blasphemous nitwit!
CAINT YOU PACTARDS SEE THAT PACMAN BEAT THE FASTEST NATURAL WELTERWEIGHT COTTO YET PACMAN IS FEATHERWEIGHT AND JUMPED UP SOME MAJOR DIVISIONS JUST TO GET FASTER AND STRONGER AT WELTERWEIGHT WHY IS THAT WHEN MARQUEZ MOVED THAT MUCH HE LOST EVERYTHING WHEN MAYWEATHER WENT UP TO WELTER WEIGHT HE LOST POWER BUT AT LIGHTWEIGHT HAD SPEED AND POWER SAMETHING WITH THE REST OF THE FIGHTERS THAT HAVE EVER LIVED DONT YOU PACTARDS THINK ITS WEIRD THAT HIS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN DO THAT
SPEED kills baby…..
@Pills
No “Pac tard” said that Mosley is too good for Pacquiao. Everyone knows Pac would whoop him any time, any era, prime or not, he will still get his butt handed on a silver platter.
and if you can give me one SOLID PROOF that Pac is taking HGH or Steroids, i would give you all my fortune.
That’s right, you can’t so STFU.
Manny fans don’t want to see him against Mosely, just as Roach doesn’t.
This is god:
You are right! Pactards have always flip floped, as they are not real boxing fans! Pacs people said Mosley was too good for Pacquiao. Then Floyd beats him he is old and washed up! Now guees who is playing with the idea of fighting Mosley! Cant you tards see that you are being fooled! All the guys pac beats are coming off beat downs or are on thier way out! You tards critisize Mayweather for fighting an “old” Mosley, but lick mannys nuts for doing the same, (after Floyd showed how to beat him)..
@DCBoxinghome – SNIFF SNIFF ….U GOT IT WRONG MATE, I AM NO PAC FAN. MARQUEZ WILL BE FORCED TO GO UP IN WEIGHT UP TO WELTER & HE CANT CARRY THAT MUCH WEIGHT IN HIS SMALL FRAME THAT IS WHY HE WONT BE COMPTETITIVE. PACMAN WONT FIGHT HIM AT 135.
This fight will be a mis-match. Pac will own Marquez and he proved it TWICE. what is there to see? Marquez fighting Pac is no different than Pac vs. Mosley. Bring Floyd out! That’s what everyone wants.
why lately everything that come out of pac and roach mouth about profit and money. I remember when pac fans defended him argueing that pac does not fight for the money that he fights for the fans. I said it was bullsheet then and got jumped on by pac fans. Well look here, guess i was right huh, pac is the same as floyd, he is a money hungry contradiction that blind fans assume can do no wrong. At least floyd fans admit floyd fights for huge paydays, but pac fans have split personality disorders, they flip flop every other week depending what contradiction pac camp goes with from week to week and pac fans blindly follow. Pac doesnt fight for money, pac fight for the fans, shane is washed up because floyd beat him but arum has him first in line to fight pac, i mean seriously is it me or does pac, arum, fans, and roach all have split multiple personality disorders and flip flop week to week
“PROFITABLE” !! YES
“COMPETITIVE”??? NO
Mosely sure has had his share of lackluster performances,And he has had the most promise from time to time.
yes i do! he will beat the stuffing out of that midget! too much money on the line for it not to happen!
Floyd did! Then he won the second fight even more convincingly!
When your a prize fighter and are at the top of the sport, then those who wish to fight you should come to you. If they want to fight Manny why not compete at Manny’s weight; level? If you know your the best, have those that oppose you come to you rather than the other way around. Talk is cheap, go up to Manny, fight at his level and prove your the best. And although I am a Manny fan, I do believe a few of his recent fights have been against washed up past top fighters that wish to see if they still “have what it takes” (IMO). I would love to see Mayweather vs Pacquiao. If not then possibly Marquez, only because there are still those who dispute the first & second fights. If they do fight, it should be the last of their bouts, one can only watch reruns for so long…
martinez is the most good looking boxer of all time. i want to meet him were like brothers
Pacquioa is afraid of fighting marquez “the last mexican hope” when they fought last time at catchweight 139lbs marquez clearly defeated him…
pacquiao is my no 1 but i can admit that marquez won the second fight by 2 rounds but people keep bringing it up, mayweather lost to castillo in the first fight and was robbed badly. hatton destroyd castillo, broke his ribbs and finished him, does that mean castillo and hatton are better than floyd, diffrent fights. stop comparing, the truth is pacquiao is staying at 147, when is the last time floyd faugt below 147, give pac man a break. if marquez wants to fight a welterweight he has to make the weight like evry 1 elce
Why don’t you just accept the simple but true fact that Manny is the best fighter in the world rigfht now. That’s it. He has fought some of the best fighters of our times and has beat them. Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar de la Hoya, Ricki Hatton, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito and all the others…He has retired most of them. All these name above, are, for me anyway, LEGENDS and this little phillipino has beatten them all. What else is there to say. They were not in the best shape some will say or they lost to much weight, or their training was off…etc Have more grace and accept what is true. He is the man at the top. And look at his fights. That is entertainment. He is the reason why I still watch boxing and yes I will pay what ever his price is because I know there will be figher work.
Mayweather, f%&k him. He can keep running. Woman beater.
Long leave Manny. As for the next opponent, I would love to see Pacquiao vs Berto and let’s not forget Katsidis. Marquez could be in for a little surprise and he should and I am sure, he will focus on that fight 1st.
Pacquiao uses steroids thats why he gain a lot of weight when rehydrating after the weigh-in
@ flip flop
u dont like dog? sounds like Pac retired one of ur heroes.
BUT FLOYD DOES HAVE A BIG ONE
WANTS UP WITH ALL THIS RETARDS THAT WANT TO SEE PACMAN FIGHT BLACKMAN IS THAT LIKE THERE WET DREAM OR SOMETHING WHEN PACMAN DOES FIGHT A BLACKMAN THEY DONT WANT TO FIGHT THEY COVER UP AND DONT FIGHT LIKE CLOTTLEY AND MOSLEY WITHOUT STEROIDS WILL HIT THE CANVAS AS HARD AS RICKY HATTON AND PROBABLY HAVE A DAMN HEART ATTACK IF HE USES STEROIDS
@Size does matter and so do skills!…..
I don’t know what planet you came from. On our planet Earth Pacquiao technically won both fights. The first one was draw but one of the judges commit an error on the score he scored 10-7 instead of 10-6 of 3 knocked down. And on the second fight Pacquiao won the fight. That’s the history on our planet Earth unless you’re watching an edited Mexican version. lol
where’s the boxing QUEEN floyd…
manny’s p4p king….
Marquez has nothing to prove to Pac as Juan beat him twice already! It would still be a competitive fight thou! Or do you Pactards want Pac to keep fighting human statues? BORING!
I pray that Manny. Doesn’t fight Mosley that will be pathetic
It would be nice if Marquez is fighting Pacquiao at 140 lbs. Pacquiao will be weight drain at 140 lbs but he’s still too good for Marquez. If Marquez can’t make at 147 lbs then Pacquiao doesn’t have anything to prove to him. That would a conclusion that Pacquiao is way better than him.
@fisty…..
Let see what going to happen tomorrow. Katsidis has a chance. He’s a little bigger than Marquez. I know Marquez is very smart boxer.
@Dapper Dan….
You call it weight drain if Pacquiao’s opponent move down in weight but it’s good if Pacquiao move down in weight? Can you please give a definition of weight drain? Not weight drain for Pacquiao but weight drain for others? That’s pretty dumb & biased.
miss chris williams and dave liar, can you think of another topic other than throwing thrash on pacquiao? before every pac fight you have predictions that i was about to believe. but during the fight it turns out you’re wrong. and it’s been going on for a while now. your just jealous of the guy. haters and liars are all welcome to hell.
i hope it happens, i think pacquiao is the best fighter ive ever seen. fact but i love marquez, he is the second best ive ever seen, he is just a fighter evry one loves, nobody has a wrong to say about him, pure class, he is an evrything fighter, if you want to box he will box you if you want to bang he will destroy you. manny and marquez are the best in the world at the moment fact
Noone is seeking Pacquiao to lose. I think everyone just wants Pacquiao to have a competitive fight.
His team seems to never pick competitive opponents.
We all just want to see a good fight. Marquez at 147 is not a good fight…PERIOD!!!
Mosely at 150 would be an outstanding fight…..
But Roach will force Mosely to drain to 140…
Marquez will retire tomorrow. Katsidis will knock him out.
You guys just want Manny to loose. That’s not going to happen. He’s too good to all of them. PERIOD
You just want Manny to be DEHYDRATED. Some say Mosley is better than Marquez. Some say Marquez is better than Mosley. Either one them will be too old to fight Pacquiao. Remember you Pac-haters said that Margarito is too strong, big & fast for Pacquiao. Look what happen to him. He looks like a slow motion and a punching bag. Any boxers who faces Pacquiao will look slow because he’s just too fast for all them, including Mayweather. Someday you’ll be running out of excuses after Pacquiao will beat all of them unless you want him to fight David Haye.
Roach picks on leftovers and shot fighters and still fears Mosley’s punch.
Finally we are back to boxing… Hope Arum doesn’t come with an outrageous catch weight. This is the only fight I’m looking for Pac man to fight other than Mayweather.
Could they be ducking Mosely??? Its anyone’s guess but I would rather see the Marquez fight first, at a decent weight. PPV will definitely be getting my money for this one!
mosley at 147 even if old is better than jmm at 147.
roach said marquez looks terrible at 145 and would be worst at 147 yet he only wants marquez fight at 147. marquez looked terrible vs mayweather. enough with other peoples leftovers take on one of the top contenders. its been over 3 years since manny has done so.
Fight Bradley vs Alexander winner.
Freddie The Joke simply wants a BLOATED Marquez at 147 lbs, rather than facing him at 140 lbs where the fight will be the fight of the year.
On top of that, he wants Mosely to drain and dehydrate to 142 lbs where he can’t possibly make.
This accentuates EXACTLY what Max Kellerman stated.
“Manny Pacquiao is a product of good match making only. Manny has never fought the best, Manny has never beaten the best, nor has Manny ever challenged the best until Floyd Mayweather”.
Max Kellerman
Max Kellerman
jmm is old and to small at this point. Manny is a welter.
@ Mayweathers Jealousy
I can’t think of someone….
How about Voltez V?
HAHAHAHA.
Go Team Pacquiao!
Mosley suks. Ever since he stopped using steroids,he weakenend.
Roach still fears Mosley. They want old JMM.
Marquez will beat Pacquiao AGAIN if they fight, and Mosley will beat Pacquiao easy if he aint weight drained.. oh wait…nevermind!
They just want Pacquiao to be DEHYDRATE to fight Marquez. If he’s tough he need to move up in weight like what Manny did. He just don’t have the balls to move up in weight. The Pac-haters don’t call it dehydrated if Pacquiao move down in weight but it’s dehydrated to Pacquaio’s opponent to move down in weight. DOUBLE STANDARD FOR PAC-HATERS. lol
Pac can easily beat Mosley. Coming down in weight is hard, and at Mosley’s age, it will be suicidal. Hard to understand why Roach is still afraid to pit his boy against Shane.
Marquez will put up a fight but will lose in the cards again.
They just want Pacquiao to DEHYDRATE to fight Marquez. If he’s tough he need to move up in weight like what Manny did. He just don’t have the balls to move up in weight. The Pac-haters don’t call it dehydrated if Pacquiao move down in weight but it’s dehydrated when Pacquaio opponent move down in weight. lol
One word Mayweather!!!
mosley is an african-american and he’s much better than this midget mexican
Explain to me why Mayweather isn’t the big box office draw for Manny and then tell me why Manny Won’t agree to a 50 million dollar$$$$ drug test?
I think Pacquiao have 25 million reasons to pick his next opponent and 40 million if Floyd fight him. As they said, Pacs have nothing to prove anymore, He fight for the money now. Can’t blame him. I enjoyed his fight, it gave me excitement. I will buy PPV whoever he wants to fight.
sounds like your a puppet of mayweathers excuses! if mayweather’s camp accuse pacman that he is an alien you will just easily belive on that! don’t be a fool or else you are an idiot. All that allegations from mayweather’s camp is pointless and just BS. About catchweight! pacquiao is not just the one who is involved in catchweight even your mayweather is fighting at catchweight. So be real and don’t be a dog with chain in the neck.
Yeah of course Marquez will not be able to beat pacman at 140-147 his not on steroids pacman needs to come down and fight like a man with honor at 135 he needs to quite playing them cheat catch weights or fight Martinez then fight marquez
Hell no a fight with Mosley will not only be a boring fight but will not even make any money not to mention that pacman will just be falling into mayweathers trick by fighting his seconds and mayweathers gonna be one step ahead pacman should fight Marquez or Sergio Martinez not anyone else those are the top ones out there left
pacquiao ain’t fighting marquez below 140-147, there’s no need for a champion to go down on the weight level of marquez just to prove that he really defeated marquez. At 140-147lb pacman gonna chew that trying hard marquez. Better try his best to win the fight against katsidis this sunday or else he better retires.
Mosley- Pacquiao another Cotto, hatton, margarito, De la hoya and the mexican heroes but not Marquez.
marquez is a great fighter and prob knows how to cause manny problems more than any other fighter out there who is a possible contender, but its 5 years in january since there 1st fight and not far off 3 years of there second fight. yes it will be a good fight but i think manny has improved so much even from there last fight and it wont be as close. i would love to see the fight happen tho.
Mosely Vs Marquez first!
@ dayamm
Im betting pacquiao wont win the fighter of the decade this year
____ – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – -
haha u made me laugh, year and decade is different. dont waste the space here. go back to your grade school teacher
PACMAN NEXT OPPONENTS
Mayweather = easy fight
Marquez = easier fight
mosley = easiest fight (no need to train)
Berto = easy fight
Bradley = easy fight
Martinez = a bit competative until 4th round, then easy same as margarito..
then who else, help me find the ONE that can beat the PAC.
Well I think that Mosley would smash Marquez and PAC would smash Mosley so what does that mean…….. Marquez is bad at 147 and Mosley is looking 40. PAC holds 147 and still has power ,Marquez would get knocked out . I think PAC should fight Berto (147) if he wins this weekend. Then fight James kirkland at 154…….. I think that sound fun lol
Im betting pacquiao wont win the fighter of the decade this year