Marquez says his priority is a third fight with Pacquiao
November 20th, 2010
By Dan Ambrose: WBA/WBO lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez wants a third fight with Manny Pacquiao in the worst way. Marquez has twice battled Pacquiao in the past, fighting to a draw in the first bout and losing a controversial 12 round split decision in the 2nd bout in 2008.
Pacquiao was then put in with David Diaz, and moved along towards fights with bigger stars after that. Marquez hasn’t given up on his desire to fight Pacquiao again, and is still pushing for a third fight two years later and with Pacquiao nearing retirement.
Marquez had this to say about Pacquiao in an interview on ESPN Deportes’ Golpe a Golpe: “If my promoter [Golden Boy] and his promoter [Top Rank] can reach an agreement, let’s move on with this fight. My priority is that third fight [with Pacquiao], but it is not just my priority, it is the priority of Mexican fans, Filipino fans, and of all boxing fans. Pacquiao is a strong fighter. His speed is incredible and he has respectable punching power. I believe in our first two fights I have proved that if you fight him at the same rhythm, same speed, providing counter-punches, and using side to side movement, you can beat him. I have demonstrated it on two occasions.”
In looking at Marquez’s two fights with Pacquiao, it’s pretty clear that he has his number and appears to be the better fighter of the two, which is probably why Arum hasn’t been in a hurry to try and match Pacquiao back up with Marquez. However, Marquez’s chances may have improved recently because he’s starting to show his age, and looked bad in getting beaten by Floyd Mayweather Jr. in their 143 pound catch-weight fight last year.
Marquez, since moving up from featherweight, looks slower than he used to be an not nearly as dominating. He’s still a tough fighter, but he’s beatable now and thjis gives him a chance to get selected by Pacquiao’s team.
For Marquez to get the fight with Pacquiao, he’s going to have to beat WBO lightweight interim champion Michael Katsidis on November 27th. Marquez has to beat Katsidis and really shine in doing so for him to have a good chance at getting a third fight with Pacquiao.
However, Marquez might not want to look too good in winning, because that might exclude him because he could be deemed too dangerous. Pacquiao’s trainer Freddie Roach wants Marquez to fight Pacquiao at the full weight of the welterweight division 147 pounds, despite Marquez having shown clearly that he doesn’t have the size to fight above 140 without being slowed down to the point where he’s sluggish.
Roach obviously is just protecting his fighter Pacquiao and making it easier for him with win. It’s not exactly sporting, but what can you say? If Marquez gets offered the fight and those are the terms, he’ll take anyway.
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Marquez is crying for a retirement check, that is all there is to it.
Marquez should shut up already. He’s given the rematch and he lost, whether people like it or not. A trilogy against Pacquiao will be like the second coming of the Pacquiao-Moralez 3, it’ll be over quickly.
I have beaten all challengers from 112 to 147. I fight anyone in my weight division. No excuses, I just want to make fans happy………
Your saying a man who fought Marquez not in his prime weight is NOT a MAN
Let’s put this article into perspective. Pacman have fought Oscar, Cotto,
Clottey, and lately Margarito @147 lbs.
Marquez, a lightweight 135 lbs., last fought @144 lb. Welterweight against Ugly boy Floyd and was sluggish you said? That’s because Ugly Floyd tipped in @147 lbs. heavier and was not really that good. If he wants to fight Manny, he can make the weight @147, he is the challenger. Yes, we want to see him fight Manny.
Shane Mosley? Give it a break. Not interested.
Ugly boy Floyd is my 1st choice to fight Manny and anyone at 147 lbs. Bring it on, as long as there’s ‘money”, Manny will come.
Marquez and Mosley are both excuses waiting to happen. When Pacquiao humiliate both of them, the same people here will cry foul and will say they’re both over the hill and Pacquiao should beat them to begin with. Manny cannot win in this arguments especially with crybabies that has nothing left but to say the same excuses over and over again.
marquez has little chance defeating Pac at this weight.
Man when is Roach going to release pacman out of his diapers and let him fight fighters in there prime weight like real Men do. not in this BS catch weight, this fight with Marquez needs to happen at 135 to 138 pounds! I bet he rather fight Mosley who has shown his age a bit more then Marquez has!
he needs to get his priorites straight.does he think katsidis is a push over? marquez is at the end of the line.katsidis by KO.
Pacquiao needs an opponent that will enhance his legacy. Right now there are only 2: Mayweather and Sergio Martinez. Mosley and JMM are has beens, only looking for a big payday before they retire. And trust me, Pacquiao will retire Mosley and JMM just like De la Hoya and Hatton. And if Pacquiao decided to fight Mosley and JMM, he deserves all the criticisms haters will heap on him for taking the easy fight.
you are qouting that pacquiao camp is making it easy in fighting at 147!!!well you are suggesting the fight must be at 140!! you are an idiot you are making it easy also for marquez..moron
JMM: I demand OSRBT
PAC: Go drink my pee … neeext.
forget pacquiao, jmm will get dominated by kats
there is one mexican that hit two time harder the margito pero anglue i know he ko margito and cotto paul williams less then five round for sure ko pac
Marquez has to drink Mike Tyson’s pee if he wants to beat Pacquiao.
Let me think, Marquez wants a:
1) 50/50 purse split.
2) Blood test.
3) Bob Arum to apologize to goldenboy.
LOL.
kfc wants bobby pacquiao
Not gonna happen. Marquez always was on his ass lookin up at Manny everytime he got hit by Pacquiao’s power punches. Marquez against Pacquiao at age 37 years old and weight between 144 to 147 lbs will be a slaughter. Marquez face will look worse than Margarito and might need a stretcher to get out of the ring.
Enough already. Why not Manny the Congressman fight
the 21st Airborne Division, that would be a hell of a fight.
Alexander, Bradley, Marquez, Martinez ; what a crazy idea.
maybe marquez can level the playing field and hit puberty in his thirties like pac did.
haha. go cycle some steroids JMM, level that playing field!
ROACH WANTS MARQUEZ AT 147 POUNDS. WHAT?
ROACH WANTED SHANE MOSLEY AT A ZOMBIE 142 POUNDS FOR A WELTER TITLE MONTHS AGO WHEN HE LOOKED DANGEROUS AGAINST MARGARITO. WHAT?
ANYONE RECOGNIZE THE DOUBLE STANDARD HERE? THIS PAC FRAUD NEEDS TO STOP IT.
Even if they give shane a chance at 147, he’s already proven that his performance against mosley could have been the dope, and he was nothing his last two fights. Typical Roach low stock retirement material cherrypick of a come forward slower fighter.
Mr Romero, put your balls where mouth is! Come visit the Philippines and experienced for yourself the beating of your life and lucky if you get out of the country alive. COWARD!
Marquez will get ktfo by katsidis. Trust me!
Funny how Manny’s opponents are getting worse and Manny is looking less impressive with them. It’s no wonder everyone is calling Manny out…
…But they shouldn’t wast their breath. Manny won’t fight anyone unless they are drained, slow, beaten and looked horrible in their last fights.
What a coward philipino.
No real boxing fan wants to see Manny fight Mosley who already is old and no longer a threat. He took too much time off between beating Margarito and at that age he needed to fight much more often. Besides he got schooled by Floyd and looked just as bad against Mora.
Manny has nothing to gain by beating him?. If he crushes him in a few rds the same Flomos who are saying he can’t beat Mosley will immediately say what I just said about Mosley. Rob And-run of Stop Stank Boxing should never make that match.
I am begging for them to match up with Berto, the winner of Bradley & Alexander or Marquez to shut his mouth. I would ask for Fl-avoid but his dear old dad has asked Manny not to bust him up. And of course being his own man unlike Manny who has to do as he is told (wink, wink, nudge, nudge, Jr. must do as Sr. orders.
Manny’s fans are demanding a black fighter for him to please Hip Hopkins. And please clearly note that neither Fl-avoid nor Hip-Hopkins have ever fought a Filipino. I am not sure if either has fought an Asian fighter but I won’t belabour the point to make it racial.
It’s only them at Golden Boy who said they won their 2 bouts when in fact they both lost both fights by the skin of it’s teeth! Fights that could have gone the other way but the knockdowns…Let’s face it and be a true gentleman by accepting your defeat. If you are given the chance for a third fight, it will no longer be that competitive anymore…Manny had improve by leaps and bounds having to fight at it’s natural weight.
Anonymous is so full of it that he doesn’t even know what he’s saying; senseless junk so pay no attention.
Anyway, PAC is now a more skilled boxer and fighter, much more powerful, has fought and been victorious with class opponents and at this point in his career, would literally annihilate JMM!! Nothing more to prove in fighting him; JMM just wants one final big payday (who doesn’t) win or lose. Forget about PAC going below 147 lbs; JMM MUST meet Top Rank’s demands if he gets lucky enough to get a rematch. But I think Pac is just gonna move on to big and better things and continue to make boxing history. JMM is just be a footnote and known as a stepping stone to Pac’s amazing journey and living legacy of boxing greatness; nuff said.
Juan Manuel Marquez is history already. Stop whining, quit complaining nothings gonna change that. If you really wanna chase Pacman up go up to 147. What is the point for Pacman going down to your level Amigo?
yes,i agree to angbobonyo. just what i said, a knockdown is a very big factor to earn a win..
Manny will be fighting at no less that 147lbs. After their first 2 fight, which I think Pacquiao dominated Marquez. On the first fight, one of the judge failed to give Manny a mandatory 6-10 score infavor of Manny, had it been, that would have been a split decision. Yes, I agree JMM came back in some of the following rounds (not all though). but its all about points at the end. Manny generated more points on the first round. The second fight was a good one too. No one can take it away from both fighters. But, I agree with the judges that that 3rd round knock down gave Manny the edge from a neck to neck bout.
Manny went ahead to conquer bigger, taller and established fighters. Thanks to Top Rank. JMM on the other hand had not. That only shows the inadequate representation of Golden Boy on his behalf to get him into big fights. Now, if I may say, JMM has not earned to fight Pacquiao so far. However if he(JMM) really wanted to, he has to go with what the team Pacquaio dictates. Manny does not need Marquez, its the other way around.
to marquez, don’t complain about your loss to pac. if you want to win, don’t kiss the canvass! a knockdown in a fight can be a big factor in winning. if i remember you got away with a draw in the 1st fight because one judge had a mistake in his score which would have favored a pacman win..
Marquez lost the last time and he’ll lose the next time. There’s no need for excuses or speculation. Pacquiao has moved up and forward in his career, Marquez has not.
just take the hgh and the TGH and get some reaaly good Def Training and make the fight
you guy’s suck
I will agree with anyone who says that Manny gets hit too much a lot more than Fl-avoid gets hit. But I will add few important facts about them. 1. tell me which of the two gives you more than your money’s worth when you watch them fight? 2. Manny is not afraid to get hit. And 3. He seems to enjoy taking chances to entertain us.
He has similar speed as Fl-avoid and uses it to create aggressive, fast and accurate punches and still avoid most return shots. Against Margarito & Cotto he was hitting them with 1 and then 2 shots and could have continued that but he likes to land heavy shots to ko both men and started going after them with 4, 5 & 6 punch combos.
Compare that to Fl-avoid. He hit Marquez and Mosley with potshots from rd 1 to rd 12 never taking a chance to go for the kill. As a result they hardly landed anything meaningful on him. Look, I am not in the ring taking shots and to be honest I think that is the best style as a boxer but they are also into entertainment.
I watched Rigondeaux who has great skills but watching him fight is like watching paint dry. What separates Fl-avoid from them is that we saw him growing from the Olympics when he used to fight much more aggressive and score ko’s. His fights used to be exciting and entertaining but somewhere like Macho Camacho he went from a guy who used to back up his brash outside talk in the ring to a guy who only talks big. It was a marketing ploy and it worked big time in terms of $. But at that time he became a cherry picker and earned so many nick names from frustrated fans like myself. There is no issue about his ability. It is great but had he not began the villian and bragging persona he would not have become a huge PPV star.
But people seem to equate big sales with HOF skills exhibited in the ring. Unless a person can show us his consumate skills against the very best and I mean the very best boxers who will no doubt be in the HOF. And beat them in their prime too, then IMO such a boxer must be in the conversation when talking about the alltime best.
I have seen many fighters with great skills but who refused to consistently test them against others with similar skills. There are also others who fell short as soon as they faced top notch fighters (e.g. Tyson) and who therefore cann be considered an alltime great. They tease and titallate but never deliver against the very best.
Fl-avoid could end up with a ? next to his legacy if he does not step up and face Manny. On the other hand, Manny has already carved his. He has gone up and faced bigger men fearlessly. I just heard his dad Sr. say he fears for his son and would not advise him to go up and fight bigger guys. Recall people how quickly he jumped to bring Marquez up and still not meet the agreed weight? I think that shows lack of honour and dignity; some may call it cowardly like they are saying how he is making excuses not to fight Manny. As a huge fan of both guys but a much bigger fan of boxing, I want to see them. I do not care who wins and I want no excuses.
There can only be one best of the era. In the old days there was one crown, even then guys rose full divisions with no catchweight so let’s put Manny’s achievements in a proper perspective. It is great by today’s standards. Before people think I am belittling Manny, to be fair in the old days guys weighed in the same day and could not regain as much lbs as they do now so the edge was not as huge as Manny faces now.
I hope Manny stays at welter and stop allowing large guys to hammer him while his main foe rest and heals so that when they finally meet nobody has an edge. If he wants to retire shortly, meet Berto, the winner of Alexander/Bradley and Marquez. Win them all and your legacy will be done.
PLEASE ROB AND-RUN, PREZ OF STOP STANK BOXING, DO NOT MATCH MANNY WITH MOSLEY. IT WILL NOT SELL AND IT WILL NOT ADD TO HIS LEGACY. MOSLEY IS DONE LIKE DINNER. STICK A FORK IN HIM!!
Dan, why don’t you go and join your friends david lahr, manuela perez…you obviously have your own club insisting that marquez is the better fighter…if he is he would have had officially the two wins over pacquiao but the record shows a draw and a win for pacquiao. you don’t like it? too bad…whatever you say from here on is pointless…
LOL everyone is chasing a fight against the little Filipino warrior. I once heard that some slick black American fighter was a PPV draw and wondered what happened to this Houdini? Ahhhh that’s right excuses, excuses, excuses that’s what it is. Just like the fans on this board who are full of it.
How many times pee boy will be on the floor,he been their 3times ,when manny was 135lb, no contest,he has his greatness with Floyd,and what did he give us,I will never buy into his fight again.
Pac already beat Floyd by beating the daylights outta Margarito. Now Floyd is way too scared to get in the ring with Pac. Even Floyd Sr admitted “if he takes that fight, I’m afraid for my son’s life”.
hahaha!!!marquea is not in the same level with pacman!! pacman is up there and marquez is down there!! the only thing that goes up with marquez is his two feet!! up up in the air four times with pacman.. pacman at his weight now will flatten marquez and pacman is not a murderer!! with pacquiaos generosity and compassion he might as well just give marquez a million dollar & wipe pacman’s arse!!
everybodys calling out pacquiao! I should as well call him out
PAC IF YOU’RE READING THIS ARTICLE! I’M MORE THAN WILLING TO GO DOWN TO 147 LBS
get real man marquez has had his fun and katsidis is gona knock him sparc out anyway
Marquez will be demolished by Pacman when they fight. I would like see their 24/7 episode, this time Marquez will be drinking and showering with his pee as much as he can to gain advantage (he thinks). LOL.
Everybody trying to call out Manny “Money” Pacquiao because they all want to get paid. It is a privalege to get a fight with Pac even if your ass gonna get whooped. Ain’t that right juanito? Quiero dinero, quiero Pacman.
Pac can choose whoever he pleases. He’s on top and it’s all about economics from there. Floyd is the primary goose.
Pacquiao was robbed of a victory in their first fight. The second fight showed Marquez landing more punches but Pacquiao landed the more significant blows including knocking Marquez again, hence the judges scored it in favour of pacquiao. Both fights were close and rightfully should have been awarded to Pacquiao. I want Pacquiao to fight other fighters rather than recycling old foes. He doesn’t have many fights left, as he hints of retirement and I want him to do the seemingly impossible again like he did with Margarito.
I think that Marquez is a great fighter but he peaked 5 years ago. Pacquio has just reached his peak. Pac would stop Marquez this time around, but Marquez does desrve a big payday to retire on. So lets have it at 140lbs!
pacs critics wants him to fight african american so forget about marquez! if pac fights marquez, these floyd fans will say that JMM is shot and blah blah blah
His priority is to score a devastating win preferably a KO win against his Aussie opponent than he can go into the lottery for PAC’s next opponent.