The Pacquiao-Margarito winner will have pressure to fight the Martinez-Williams II winner
October 31st, 2010
By Chris Williams: Whoever emerges as the victor in the November 13th bout between Manny Pacquiao and Antonio Margarito, you can bet that HBO is going to be very interested in matching hem up with the winner of the November 20th rematch between Sergio Martinez and Paul Williams. Think about it.
Trying to sell that fight again would be a big mistake unless Bob Arum was okay with getting less than 700,000 pay per view buys. There would no suspense involved because Cotto hasn’t really beaten anyone to make you think the outcome would be changed the second time around.
Although a fight between Cotto and Margarito would be a decent fight, it won’t be a huge fight and unless he beats Pacquiao next month, his star could be even dimmer than it is now. But the winner of the Williams vs. Martinez fight would be the ideal choice for Pacquiao or Margarito to fight.
Margarito already fought both Sergio Martinez and Paul Williams during his career, beating Martinez by a 7th round stoppage in 2000 and losing a close 12 round decision to Williams in 2007. Pacquiao vs. Williams would be a great fight due to the size differences and Williams high work rate. He would force Pacquiao to fight hard for 12 rounds or else he’d take a beating.
Martinez vs. Pacquiao would be a great fight because Martinez would make Pacquiao have to prove that he can beat fighter that moves. Pacquiao has been fed almost exclusively stationary fighters since his controversial 12 round split decision win over Juan Manuel Marquez in 2008. Pacquiao would be facing a real threat of getting out-boxed by Martinez. It still be an exciting fight to see how Pacquiao adjusts – or doesn’t adjust – to Martinez’s movement and slashing attacks.
It would take a lot for Arum to say yes to this fight because he would be taking a big risk because Williams and Martinez can both still fight. They’re not shot, weight drained and haven’t recently been destroyed. Things could be different after their November 20th fight, but I still see the winner of that fight being able to put in a good fight against Pacquiao or Margarito.
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Won’t happen. Hate to say it but Pac has become a cherry picker.
What a joke.
Manny is never gunna fight Williams or Martinez. He is pushing it fighting the much larger Margarito. Mayweather is Much closer to their size if he doesnt make a fight with pac he should fight the winner. Would be a real test for mayeather.
@Iceman
I agree with you cat. Pac fighting P-will is a total mismatch. Floyd also fighting him is ridiculous. People are only suggesting that they fight Williams is ONLY because of the height difference. Willimas needs to stay where he’s at or even move to the super middleweight division to fight. He could probably even compete at light heavy weight.
On top of this, Uncle Bob already said that Williams and Bradley will not get a free ride so the people can forget those fights.
Paquiao would never fight a bigger counter puncher like Martinez. If he can beat margarito, he’d fight Williams. However I don’t think Williams will beat Martinez and even if Paquiao wins the bout against Margarito, the damage produced by margarito will be too much and the future of the pacman will be uncertain.
The winner of both fights should fight each other and the losers should fight each other. Bob Arum don t operate like that, he want easy fights for his guys not competitive. I would love to see a Williams/Margarito rematch.
DUDE, Martinez and Manny would be an amazing fight. we need new blood in the ring..i’m sick of the same old same old ppl. let andre berto, timothy bradely, marcos maidan, williams, martinez, kotelnik and others have a shot at the big dogs..isnt it about time they do ?
@ Author: I dont need to read the whole article. I know where it is going……
Question : who’s going to “pressure” Pac? (obviously he will win)…ohhh. the Mayweather’s, the need to divert fans attention away from them…..EXACTLY!
Big Buck
Stop dreaming your fighter is the greatest coward ever,the best thing for you to do is to wake up……
why doesnt anyone ever mention “how about mayweather facing williams or martinez?”
@BIG BUCKet, sorry man, enough for today, i need to work to make money, to pay bill’s.see later.
@Chris, congratulations! Now that you’ve seen that fight, you are an expert!
Perhaps HBO will hire you?
@BIG BUCKet, can’t answer your question i’m not the prom. nor trainer of Paquiao..
YOU MIDGETS ARE AMAZING!!!
PACQUIAO COULD QUITE POSSIBLY TAKE A SEVERE ASS WHOOPIN.
DEAL WITH IT!!!
@BIG BUCKet, i’m a boxing fan, idolize all the great brave boxer’s i’ve been watching boxing seen’s the 60′s and i’ve watch live trilla in Manila ALI fought a GORRILLA.
@BIG BUCKet, hear’s my message to whole world if its happen, MARGO demmolist the PACMAN, hope its a knock out, VIVA MEXICANO’s for the first time in history of boxing, a great taller and bigger Mexican fighter demmolist the GREAT PACMAN…mark my word, after the fight.
@Chris, we are talking about Margarito and Pacquiao right now. Beginning November 14th, we can then begin a discussion about Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Unless you have Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, let’s sick to the two fighters at hand.
@BIG BUCK’et, suspect pretty boy floyd will tune up fight again, to hoom, to marquez? floyd your coward idol got no balls to fight taller and bigger boxer than him, he even decline to fight a midget who they said had no defense, avility to block punch…
hey cris here we go again,why dont you wrote an article of a fairy tales?! its going to be fun to read..
Mosely DESTROYED Margarito, if Margarito DESTROYS Pacquiao, what message does that say to the boxing world?
@ Big buck
Stop juicing!!!
BIG BUCK!! stop dreaming, coward Mayweather, will never, Margarito, or Martinez, stop burning that pipe …YO!!!!
@Chuck, good question. I suspect he will take a tune up fight in January/February, then fight either Margarito or Martinez.
Then he will end his career with one last fight with Pacquiao demanding 80% of the purse.
If Pacquiao gets destroyed by Margarito, then Floyd defeats either Margarito or Martinez, I don’t think even 1 Filipino will disagree with that split.
Who will Mayweather fight next?
No need for Pacquiao to go up to JMW after he take the vicious beating from Margarito.
PACQUIAO NEEDS TO FIGHT SUGAR SHANE MOSELY OR ANDRE BERTO!!!
Mayweather already knocked out the big show lol
Pacquiao will never fight Williams. Bob Arum and Freddie Roach are so keen to avoid this fight. Pacquiao will probably fight Vitali Klitschko next at a 200lb catchweight for a newly introduced WWWWBBBBCCCCCCAAA title.
State of Texas – Now you talk dumb….
These guys are a joke… Then next fight of PACQUIAO will be the MAYFLOWER nothing else….
Wow.. two southpaws, the last time i saw pacquiao fought a southpaw he was boxing ala roy, leaning with his right hook. Pac is more entertaining fighting a southpaw IMHO.
Let’s just get straight on this. Win or lose it will be Williams not Martinez to fight Pacquiao next. That’s because the next Pacquiao fight will be at 147 Pacquiao’s preferred weight. Williams can’t go down that far while 147 as Paul claims is in his territory. That said, we looking at Pacquiao vs Williams.
Pacquiao using steroids hasn’t proven until now. Only insane peopl believe that he is on steroids.
Maybe State of Texas is on steroids and he’s injecting it in his brains with the way he thinks. LOL
Pete says:
October 31, 2010 at 6:38 pm
I think that is entirely possible. It would be very interesting to see Pacquiao in against all three of them. I see Williams as the big test as he has never been stopped in 30 fights and his height (6’1″) and reach (82″) may cause Pacquiao problems (5’6″, 67″).
If Pacquiao did do that, which is highly unlikely, and win, he would surely be the greatest fighter of our time. This is without Mayweather and without any rematch with Marquez. Should he beat Margarito (5’11″, 73″) which is no easy task and his tallest opponent to date then a fight with Martinez (5’10″, 76″) would be interesting.
I GENERALLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU’VE SAID HERE PETE. HOWEVER, I JUST CANT SEE A FIGHT BETWEEN PACQUIAO AND WILLIAMS EVER TAKING PLACE, BASED SOLEY ON THE HEIGHT DIFFERENCE. IF PEOPLE CANT UNDERSTAND THAT THEN THEY ARE JUST BIAS.
WILLIAMS IS CLOSER TO 6’2” THAN 6’1” AND PAC IS 5’6”. MAKE NO MISTAKE, WILLIAMS ISNT EVEN ON THE SAME SKILL-SET OR LEVEL AS PACQUIAO BUT VARIABLES ARE SO FAR IN HIS FAVOUR ITS NOT FUNNY.
DONT AGREE? THEN TELL ME ANOTHER WORLD CHAMPION 140/147LBER THAT WAS 5’6” AND FOUGHT A GUY THATS 6’1/6’2? GUD LUCK TRYING!
bunch of racist losers arround here..tsk tsk!
Ok so we all know Pacquiao is on steroids for most of his fights, if you Pactards think Williams is to big, he should ask Ariza for some growth Hormone pills. He’ll grow about two inches. After that it should be a fair fight so you Pac-girl fans could stop b*tchin and moaning.
Penn-State Stand Up!!!
Manny fans better wory Margo looks in awsome shape he is a very tough fighter and I am afraid he will beat Mp It will be a memorable fight for sure fight fans dont miss this one,..Credit to MP for making this fight
Why not Coward Floyd Jr. take the winner or loser of William and Martinez fight? It might be a good work out of courage if he really have balls to fight the king Manny Pacquiao…..
“LET US USE OUR EYES AND BRAIN”
It is very obvious that the article in this column is trying to portray not attracting sales about the bout between PACMAN AND MARGARITO. And as much as possible is trying to discourage boxing fans from watching the fight at the COWBOY STADIUM, because of the venue is not done in Las Vegas. This is a great and real fight not fixed compared to FLOYD MAYWEATHER AND SHANE MOSLEY. When a fight is exciting causing bodily injuries, its real not fixed. WATCH THE FIGHT OF MOSLEY AND MAYWEATHER, that is the most complete fixed game as some people believe.
this must be plan B for chris williams, just in case he has to eat crow for a Plasterito loss on nov 13th. all of a sudden manny has to match up with 6’1″ PW or another significantly larger fighter in Martinez.
HEY!!!SEAN, PAQUIAO WANT TO FIGHT THE NO.1 AFRICAN AMERICAN UNBEATEN FLOYD MAYWEATHER, BUT FLOYD DECLINE TO FIGHT HIM, TO PROTECT O LOSS RECORD.ALIBI’S ALIBI’S ALIBI’S, DEMAND’S DEMAND’S DEMAND’S
First and foremost Pac doesn’t fight African American fighters,so you can scratch PW off the list.Manny won’t fight Martinez because he isn’t a Mexican that has been in multiple wars.Manny doesn’t face real threats-only perceived ones.To the writer of this article,KEEP DREAMING…
Other big fight atb140 lb is maidan a and khan ,floyd would want to fight that winner, watch ,he going to take the easy route. By then manny might have Road wear,lol
Arum .say first let’s see if tall guys aren not a problem ffor manny ,then we will think about it.
I say manny will distroy mago and ko him.,manny will send the loud mouth home with his tail between his legs.
isnt it ironic how we can put and throw names out there for pacman but when it comes to mayweather there is always an excuse. god bless pac for giving fans what they want FIGHTS. when will mayweather step up. when will chris say mayweather martinez or mayweather williams or even mayweather margarito if he wins. because everyone knows mayweather is actually a coward.
Paul has a agree to fight manny at 147 lb,he says manny fight larger guys and isn’t afraid like Floyd.
This fight will sell. And manny can win using angle connecting and sidestepping ,don’t think Paul can use a uppercut on manny .lol
AFTER PAC, MARG, FIGHT PAQUIAO WILL FIGHT AT 147 NO MORE NO LESS, ITS HARD FOR HIM TO GET 149 TO 150, HE HAVE EAT 4MEALS A DAY..
Chris agree here that what I been saying, if manny look good it be Paul williams ,next Paul is fighting at a lower weight this fight as he expect a fight with manny and you can be sure he will call manny out badly manny has to take that fight,and Floyd ? Who need Floyd,
I think that is entirely possible. It would be very interesting to see Pacquiao in against all three of them. I see Williams as the big test as he has never been stopped in 30 fights and his height (6’1″) and reach (82″) may cause Pacquiao problems (5’6″, 67″).
If Pacquiao did do that, which is highly unlikely, and win, he would surely be the greatest fighter of our time. This is without Mayweather and without any rematch with Marquez. Should he beat Margarito (5’11″, 73″) which is no easy task and his tallest opponent to date then a fight with Martinez (5’10″, 76″) would be interesting.
Margaro will beat PAC,then he will beat Martinez,unless Martinez gets robbed again and then magarito will beat Floyd
Pacquiao is going to fight Bernard Hopkins next.