Margarito thinks he’ll have problems with Pacquiao in the first three rounds, but then it will get easier
October 29th, 2010
By Chris Williams: Two-time welterweight champion Antonio Margarito is expecting to have problems against Manny Pacquiao in the first three rounds of their November 13th bout due to the speed and quick movements from Pacquiao, but thinks things will become steadily easier after that. Margarito said in and article at abs-cbnnews.com, “I think I will have a difficult time in the first few rounds with Pacquiao because he’s fast. But once I get the right timing, I’ll be fine.” That could be. Once Margarito starts putting leather on Pacquiao’s face and small frame, he could get the Filipino fighter backing off and staying on the outside more. Erik Morales had Pacquiao covering up for extended periods of time in their first fight in 2005.
Margarito’s trainer Robert Garcia says “I know he’s [speaking about Pacquiao] trying to move side to side and fight so hard, but our job is to cut the ring and pressure him as much as possible.’ Yes, there’s no secret to what Margarito is going to try and do in this fight. He has to pressure Paccquiao constantly and needs to throw a lot of punches in every round.
It’s safe to say that if Margarito can average a 100 punches thrown per round, he’ll win the fight. But if he comes in at half that number or even less, he’ll likely lose the fight. I don’t think Margarito can win by a decision because Pacquiao is the cash cow of boxing and beating a popular fighter like Pacquiao would take an extraordinary performance to get the judges to side with Margarito. In other words, think of Pacquiao as the home town fighter, even though he’s from the Philippines and fighting in a foreign country.
If Margarito can trap Pacquiao or if Pacquiao is silly enough to try and stand and trade with Margarito, I see Pacquiao getting mowed down from the sheer size and power of Margarito. I’m not really sure how Pacquiao play this because I’ve never seen him stick to a game plan of fighting in an in an out style for 12 rounds before. He usually does the jumping around stuff early and then just goes all out and tries to brawl. It’s worked well for him against the kind of opposition that’s been fed to Pacquiao, but I’m not so certain that brawling will be a smart thing for Pacquiao to do against a big fighter like Margarito. It’s like taking a small car and revving it for too long and putting too much of a strain on it. I think Pacquiao can handle the smaller fighters or the ones that have recently had the stuffing knocked out of them and are coming into fights with him semi-stunned, but not sure if Margarito is one of those fighters.
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Phoo watch the nightmare
andaming mga tanga dito. (there are too many stupid people here).
Could you please watch the past few fights of Pacquiao? Or, just look at the Cotto fight. The kind of caliber Pacquiao is at right now is something that can take the kind of punch someone like Margarito has. And besides, Manny Pacquiao’s style is built for opponents taller and bigger than him.
@ Harry,
Man Pacquiao and his fans must have really ruined your day.
It won’t matter. No one can reach your level of misery.
The people that follow this c@nt will be in for a shock
I agreed If Paquiao doesn’t hurt Margarito in the first rounds Paquiao wil be in big trouble with Margarito’s pressure.
Roach likes fighters that have been beaten and battered. Mosely absolutely “CRUSHED” Margarito. A career ending beating for some fighters. Can he comeback? Cotto never did!!!
It will be tough!
Can this shell take out Pacquiao?
IF SO, PACQUIAO’S JIG IS UP FOR THE WORLD TO SEE!!!
@ Bullet Proof.
Only a loser would believe that a man can’t come back from a loss.
Mosely took Margarito’s SOUL!!! Mosely keeps his sould somewhere far away from Margarito. The man is a shell if what he used to be.
If that shell takes out Pacquiao…HE HAS BEEN COMPLETELY EXPOSED. NOT HATING JUST TELLING THE TRUTH.
@Phoocaquiao, Shane Mosely took Margarito’s heart away. Floyd Mayweather made all of the conspiracy theorists come out because he made a HOF’r in SSM look like an amateur.
If the slow, beaten and broken Margarito takes out Pacquiao…
HE’S NOT VERY GOOD…PERIOD!!!
@ Bullet Proof.
If he loses to David Diaz, or Timothy Bradley, or any of these guys that are his own size, then yes, he’s not that good.
Losing to a guy that’s not only bigger and stronger than you, but will be the biggest fighter he’s ever faced, is not a sign that Pac is no good.
Henry Armstrong lost a Filipino at Middleweight. Would you say that Armstrong was lousy? No you wouldn’t.
So yes, your hating prevents you from taking proper perspective on the situation at hand.
You Noys are nuts. Pacquiao has the talent of a journeyman that never developed a jab, never developed a defense, no strategy, just throw as many punches possible to overwhelm his opponent. He has had success with the fighters Freddie Roach has fed him, much like feeding guppies to a carp.
None of us can predict the outcome of this fight, however IMHO, the little fella has bitten off more than he can chew this time.
Yes, Margarito is quite slow compared to Pacquiao, and Molasses compared to Mayweather. But quickness and speed means absolutely nothing if you don’t have a defense.
For example, lets say both fighters throw 100 punches per round. OK, give Pacquiao the edge for landing the most. If a 160 lb, 5’11, determined Margarito lands 40% of his punches on Pacquiao’s chin, face and gut, and liver, that is a lot of pain to a fighter that is carrying weight that will become a burden later in the fight.
The Margarito punches will have a heavy effect. Pacquiao cuts, swells and bleeds EASILY!!!
The fight will be stopped due to cuts…
Wait and See…
Should Manny Pacquiao be losing this fight during the first 5 rounds, the very first marginal punch that Margarito throws on Pacquiao will be considered low, and this fight will end due to DISQUALIFICATION!!!
There is NO WAY POSSIBLE that Arum is going to allow his cash cow to end in a brutal beating. The referree will be briefed to end the fight as quickly as possible if Pacquiao is getting the short end of the battle.
THERE WILL BE A CONTROVERSIAL ENDING TO THIS FIGHT.
JUST WAIT AND SEE!!!
Antonio Margarito is a notoriously slow starter, and is a slow puncher. Manny Pacquiao starts fast and furious, and is a fast puncher. Sugar Shane Mosely took Margarito’s heart and soul.
If Manny Pacquiao misses the window, and ends up losing to Margarito, how on earth could anyone possibly think Manny Pacquiao would stand a chance with Floyd Mayweather Jr.?
Sugar Shane Mosely DESTROYED Margarito. Floyd Mayweather made Sugar Shane mosely look like an amateur. Then Margarito goes on to deliver a horrific beating to Manny Pacquiao????
This will prove that the Noys are either delusional, or suffering from an outbreak of “MAD DOG” disease making its way through the Philipines.
Pacquiao had better win this fight…
In the first three, then the tone will be set for as long as it shall last.Remember the Golden boy.
@Marius
Totally agree with you. Pacquiao might destroy Margarito within 3 rounds. I feel sorry that you’re Mayweather fans because you’ve been decieved by him. It’s sad that Mayweather a native from Las Vegas wasn’t ask by Sen. Reid to endorse him instead a non American Pacquiao was ask to endorse him last night. It’s that a slap in the face? I can’t wait to hear from the Mayweather clan to make a statement about the endorsement. lol
I salute pacman for fighting me even if he’s smaller than me, he’s a brave man. win or lose,,, he’s the man
I am a great fan of Mayweather,but I cannt say bads things against Pacman cause I am not his fan.Frankly,I dont think that Margarito can stand against Pac.If this one think that the 3 first rounds will be hard for him,by those rounds will come the ko.Margarito doesnt have defense,no
defense with a quick fighter like Pacquiao means a lost by ko.Look at all fighters who fought Pac without defense lost all by ko,Delahoya,cotto
and others.Those who had defense like Marquez,clottey,and others fought
12 rounds.Margo is without defense,he’ll lose by ko.
Hey Chris… your’re a certified hater!!! Pacman taught you and you never learned… How idiot you are. I’m telling you Margacheato will go down on the 6th round with a body shot thrown with a powerful left. The world will grasp in awe and you sore loser will eat crow again. Remember, Sasakul when the Great Pacman upset him with a lightning, powerful left,Ledwaba went down with a combination, Barrera electrified with intense bombardment of punches, Morales with intense attack, Marquez kissed the canvas 4-Times, Diaz shocked with lightning fast hands, Oscar thought a multiple boxers in front of him, Hatton saw the valley of death with a thunderous left, Cotto shock in awe with Pacman’s blistering speed and last Clottey demolished and outclassed by a thousands punches….. Mark my word, the number is 6,… gonna bet!!!! LOL…LOL…LOL…PACMAN kasi!!! eh!!!
@Phocaquiao, how am I hating? Manny Pacquiao should beat Margarito!!! If he doesn’t then he is being exposed as not as good as we thought he was. How is that hating?
Make up your mind man.
The tornado will see a different type mosely with speed unlike he has faced.
For anyone to say they know for a fact who the winner is going to be is stupid, there be no point to watch the fight. I dont know if margarito is going to win or loose, but he damn sure isnt going to stand there with his gloves up all night like joshua clottey.
gago nga negro
the way i see, this fight will end TKO, in favor of PAQUIAO, in any round,bloody face for margarito.
@ Bullet Proof
Knowing the art of boxing, and knowing how to win a fight are two vastly different things.
Manny isn’t a textbook boxer. Everyone knows that. But he wins fights all the same.
You’re just hatin. Plain and simple. If Pac was that lousy he’d be losing to these bigger guys. Be real.
If you’re not a fan of Pac then fine. But saying that he’s not very good is a lie you tell yourself out of hate designed to make yourself feel better about whatever is bothering you.
“Erik Morales had Pacquiao covering up for extended periods of time in their first fight in 2005″.
That was 5 years ago, I think Manny has learned alot since then.
Before the Cotto-Margarito fight everybody where saying the same things about Margarito and how Cotto was going to beat him. …before you start talking, Margarito took off his gloves right after the Cotto ended.
If Manny loses, its a disgrace. He’s slow, he’s lousy, he’s not very good.
If Manny loses to Margarito…MANNY’S NOT VERY GOOD!
pacman doesnt slow down so good luck margarito,basically your gonna get hammered to the canvas.
Margarito will be too weight-drained to throw 100 punches per round. Since he is a lot slower that de la Hoya, we may see a similar repeat of the de la hoya fight. Actually, it maybe worse because Pacquiao has become stronger and has a right hand delivering as hard as the left. It should be an easy knockout by round 6 or 7. De la hoya lasted longer at 9 rounds because Pacquiao appeared to have showed compassion by being less ruthless. Watch the tape. Pacquio held up his punches while de la Hoya was trapped aginst the ropes. Since Margarito is step slower than de la Hoya, he may absorb more punches in fewer rounds, leading to the easy knockout. He may altogether quit on his chair by no later than 8th round. Because of his size, he may not easily fall down but may get mugged up so badly he would quit on his own volition.
Then action starts early.. can`t wait to this fight
manny is not concentrating on his training 100%. and he will be devastated on november 2 which will lead to his humilating loss on the 14th. i hope margarito will really take advantage on this distraction.
You Noys are nuts. Pacquiao has the talent of a journeyman that never developed a jab, never deveoped a defense, no strategy, just throw as many punches possible to overwhelm his opponent. He has had success with the fighters Freddi Roach has fed him, much like feeding guppies to a carp.
None of us can predict the outcome of this fight, however IMHO, the little fella has bitten off more than he can chew this time.
Yes, Margarito is quite slow compared to Pacquiao, and Molasses compared to Mayweather. But quickness and speed means absolutely nothing if you don’t have a defense.
For example, lets say both fighters throw 100 punches per round. OK, give Pacquiao the edge for landing the most. If a 160 lb, 5’11, determined Margarito lands 40% of his punches on Pacquiao’s chin, face and gut. That is a lot of pain to a fighter that is carrying weight that will become a burden later in the fight.
The Margarito punches will have a heavy effect. Pacquiao cuts, swells and bleeds EASILY!!!
The fight will be stopped due to cuts…
Wait and See…
Margarito will be throwing more than 100 punches a round alright, but practically most of those punches will be thrown while off-balance, out of position or blocked altogether. If Pacquiao’s speed means anything, it will be that he will always be moving side to side or in and out a split-second or two before Margarito gets to sit on his punches. A puncher’s chance
is really the only chance Margarito has in this one, and Pacquiao has to really fight stupid to give him that chance.
Margarito will be throwing more than 100 punches a round alright, but practically most of those punches will be thrown while off-balance, out of position or blocked altogether. If Pacquiao’s speed means anything, it will be that he will always be moving side to side or in and out a split-second or two before Margarito gets to sit on his punches. A puncher’s chance
Too much p.u.s.s.y talk just come back here after 13th then we’ll talk
antonio margarito will destroy manny by the 11th round just like he did to a primed miguel cotto
“Pacquiao is mostly a guy that attacks constantly and usually throws a lot of punches at his opponents without a lot of strategy behind them.”
Yeah, the kind that floored Cotto and others. The kind that can’t be learned in the gym, that’s why he became a force.
It was good up until the point that he posted it.
I think De La Hoya would disagree with the notion that Pac can’t fight in and out over the course of several rounds, and De La Hoya was there for the taking.
No this fight will go a lot like that fight (DLH-Pac). Pac boxing on his toes, using his superior footwork to stay off the ropes and out of trouble.
Great analysis i haven’t read the comments as of yet, but I am sure the truth of this article is going to make pac-fans go all retarded and say outlandish things. But the truth is win lose or draw Pacquiao is a hooked on phonics type of fighter very fan friendly style but his technique is terrible.
I have observed Pacquiao fight for 15 years and I can see his antics. When he fought clottey it was his desire to get hit to get the counter punch for a KO once clottey exposes himself by getting too eager and firing continuous punches. Clottey was smart enough – he made himself a turtle shell so team Pacquiao lost by millions on the bet of a KO. His training against Cotto is actually intended for mayweather- remember they brought in Csatillo, but floyd is smart enough and smelled the danger so got himself into barking mode, probably intentionally got into ex-gfs mess to avoid PAC. Now, Margarito is embarking on his vaunted chin, will it wilt under Pacs firepower or will he get to KO Pac?
“Let’s say Margarito throws 100 punchws per round. I GUARANTEE you 65 of those will connect on Pacquiao. That’s beeing hit much too much!!!”
No one has ever landed 65% of their shots on Pacquiao. Not Morales, not Marquez, and especially not slow ass Margarito.
It will be a tough fight for Pac. I wouldn’t go as far as saying that he’ll knock Margarito out (someone should check for a loaded chin, lol). It’ll be a tough time out for Pac, but at the end of the day he’ll endure and win.
Keep in mind that Pacquiao has wanted to fight Margarito since he beat De La Hoya when Margarito was at his peak.
All haters, keep dreaming…just wait the result and again all dissapointed…poor losers, all they want is Pacman’s downfall. Why can you not just admire the achievement/s of Pacman?
remember Cotto quit and was not KOed by a solitary margarito punch. Power is to Pacs advantage.
Pacquiao will knock him around in 3 rounds then will lead him the way to the lights.. and whats the differrents between Xyyllocaine and looadded gloves
Pacman wins..not because of how he fight that nite,he is gana win cuz arum said sooooo….ones again arum will not let margarito beat manny neva in this life tyme…cuz the world knows if manny loose say bye bye to pacman vs floyd.
You haven’t got a clue.
unless floyd has a fight coming up, he shouldn’t be talked about…that pu ssy f a g.
Ali had also some controversies with his political connections but he is remembered more for what he did in boxing.
It’s hard to separate boxing from PAC’s personal and political life because of his celebrity status. You may agree or disagree with some of PAC’s decision.
But please…….Stick with Boxing guys.
I haven’t read about anyone saying Pacquiao’s chin was suspect. What I did read was that Margarito’s chin is proven.
If Pacquiao had any sort of defense that could block any of Margarito’s punches, I would agree with the Pacquiao fans. But damn, Pacquiao can’t stop anything from hitting him. Clottey hit him with everything he through and his punches were telegraphed.
Let’s say Margarito throws 100 punchws per round. I GUARANTEE you 65 of those will connect on Pacquiao. That’s beeing hit much too much!!!
Yes, Pacquiao will connect as well, but I have a feeling Margarito will walk through them after taking Mosely’s shots!!!
I have a bad bad feeling for Pacquiao November 13th!!!
IF THIS COMES DOWN TO A CONTROVERSIAL DECISION TO PACQUIAO, I HOPE TEXAS STADIUM OR COWBOY STADIUM WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT IS TORN TO THE GROUND!!!
filipinos like me follow pacman like crazy but we are smart enough not to follow him on his choice of sen reid. it will backfire against troubled reid bigtime! for the first time ever i’ll be rooting for margarito because this revealation really shows how ignorant really manny pacuiao is. to all my kababayan in NV, huwag maniwala ni manny dito. dapat neutral lang siya, bobo talaga na magpagamit sa politikong wala nang pag-asa.
Pacquiao will win this fight… Not because of superior skill or speed, or his proven toughness in the ring. Its because THIS IS A TOP RANK FIGHT …. There is no way in Heaven or Hell, that Bob Arum would knowingly put Pacquiao in harms way, If he loses, the glimmer is gone, and he is no longer the poster boy of Top Rank, no matter what you guys think, his stock will drop, which means less cashola in the bank! I cant see Margarito winning this.. Unless he is totally looking to get crucified by Bob Arum and Top Rank.
@achilles_are u coming out of the closet too?
Achilles says:
I agree with your perception of the fight… Good Post
Also Pacman carries a lot of his weight in his legs. His legs are massive. Asian or Islander people for the most part do. And don’t tell me I nuts, because I lived in China for 5 years and have travelled all over Asia…
Oh and i forgot the 3rd fight with Morales. We can play these games all day long. Margs beat cotto. mosley beat margs. Cotto beat mosley. And Pacman beat cotto. So who wins???
“I have never seen a fighter go up in weight like he has. Accept for Leonard. But they have different body types.” Get out of here with that. He is a 31 year old man who weighs 145lbs at 5’6-5’7 tall. Not that outlandish. What because he was 106-110 at 16 or 17 years old and has gained 40 lbs in 15 years, hes not natural???
All i know is he has never failed a drug test. And until PBF came out with a B.S. excuse not to fight another top flight challenger, no body was saying anything. I found it funny that PBF fought a guy who had used the juice and was cool with a cut off date of 17 days before the fight. That to me puts a period on the whole “clean up the sport thing.”
When he fails a test I would be the first to say I was wrong. But until then…. Give it a rest.
I think that’s about a right guesstimation. I think that marg will have trouble in first 2-3 rds after that he has to land and land solidly and consistently other wise pac will win 4thand 5th rds and it will be very difficult to catch him. marg has to have at least 2 rds by rd6 and slow pac down with body shotsyou can never underestimate Pac fact. and it doesn’t seem as is Margarito has taken manny lightly at all. quite contrary he’s been training as if he’s goin against a young Tyson
here we go again!just because mosley beat margo doesnt mean midget will do it too,since i been watching boxing i havent seen i boxer go up in weight this much only leonard but their body frame doesnt compare i honestly think midget is into peds but this time its not gonna work vs a stronger,taller and true jr middle weight in margarito,dont be surprise if midget comes out gun shy…..
Chris Williams is dreaming of a 2005 Pacquiao
I love how people keep saying that Pacquiao has a suspect chin because he was knocked out as a teenager. If im not mistaken that was in the 1990′s… Morales was and always will be considered a great champion. The first fight Pacman was a one handed fighter. These bull$hit writers and there Bull4$hit crony bloggers always seem to fail to mention the second fight with Morales. Or the fights with Barrera. Or the fact that Freddie roach has turned this talent into a machine by him being able to fight with both hands,counter punch, and just be an all around great boxer…
Now once again Pacman is taking on a bigger opponent who was feared by everyone including PBF for a record never to be touched again in our lifetimes, 8th world title. Keep throwing the hate. It will be fun to see all of you talking junk change your comment names on November 14th.
Pacman will be fed through a tube after this
miss-match of a fight!!
The fight is FIXED in Pac’s favor.,,Margarito will “throw” the fight in exchange for getting licensed in CA, NV and the rest of the US through Pac’s co-promoter-Oscar’s approval.
This is yet another EASY cherry picked fight for “the best fighter of the decade”! Mosley already tenderized this washed up has been / never was!!
Manny back track when someone throw if they follow him, that smart why because he then step forward with a Right had angle uppercut and a left hook ,you follow you get knock out ,
Yeah, Williams…just keep “handicapping” this fight. Margo’s trainer ought to remember this: PacMan fights differently in his fights, and is always quick to adjust to his opponents. The Pacquiao who lost to Morales 5 years ago is not the same Pacquiao that Margo will be facing. In fact, he won’t even be the same Pacquiao who fought Clottey or Cotto. Yeah, Margo will have difficulty in the first 3 rounds, but will he improve after that? Not after PacMan bloodies his face in those 3 rounds!
There is two ways I can see this fight playing out (1) For Manny: The Carlos Abregu-Timothy Bradley fight. (2) For Margorito: The recent Brandon Rios-Anthony Petersen fight. I think the latter might happen.
i think that will happen, but the pusishment he will take in the irst 3 will reduce his his attacks and make him more reluctant because of the first 3
If Pacquiao tries to stand there and exchange, he will get crushed. Not because Margarito is that much better, its that Pacquiao absorbs too much punishment in the process. Margarito’s chin is proven. Pacquiao’s isn’t.
If Pacquiao tries hit and run, Margarito will kill him. Margarito likes to fight this way with his opponent moving and him constantly applying pressure.
We all watched Margarito take BOMBS from Shane Mosely! ABSOLUTE BOMBS from the heaviest puncher ever in the WW Division. He stood there through 9. Pacquiao would have been flat on his back as most others would. Margarito will weigh somewhere near 160 lbs. He will rough Pacquiao up. This isn’t a guy that covers up like the unforgettable Clottey. He comes to fight.
Too many variable against Pacquiao. The added weight, loss of speed, Margarito’s height…etc.
Pacquiao and Freddie the Joke have bitten off more than they can chew this time…