Mosley-Mora ends in 12 round draw, Shane fails to prove he deserves a fight with Pacquiao
September 19th, 2010
By Jason Kim: Shane Mosley and Sergio Mora fought to a 12 round draw on Saturday night at the Staples Center, in Los Angeles, CA. Mosley, 39, threw more punches in the fight, but missed an awful lot of them and looked sloppy and tired in the 2nd half of the fight. At the same time, Mora landed the cleaner shots in the last half of the fight. The judges scored it 116-112 for Mosley, 115-113 for Mora and 114-114 even. I personally thought Mora had done enough to win the fight by at least four rounds, as Mosley just didn’t look at all good. You can explain away some of the reasons why Mosley looked so bad because he was fighting out of his weight class at junior middleweight.
Mosley was too small for the weight class six years ago when he was twice beaten by Winky Wright, which is why it seems all the more strange that Mosley, at the ripe old age of 39, would want to move back up to that class after all these years. In hindsight, it’s pretty clear that it wasn’t the smartest thing for Mosley to do, because he really struggled tonight against Mora. The thing of it is Mora isn’t even what I would consider a top 10 fighter at junior middleweight, and yet Mosley went life and death with him and barely scraped out a draw. I’d hate to see what would happen to Mosley if were to fight better junior middleweights like James Kirkland, Alfredo Angulo, Sergeii Dzinziruk or Paul Williams. I see those as all defeats for Mosley. Hopefully, Mosley takes this fight as a big hint that he needs to either move back down to the welterweight division or consider retirement.
The most critical aspect of tonight’s draw for Mosley is that it’s his second consecutive less than impressive performance. While it’s great that he was able to avoid getting beaten, it still doesn’t get away from the fact that he’s looked poor and didn’t win either of the fights. Since Mosley was trying to prove that he deserves a big money fight against Manny Pacquiao tonight, I think he failed in accomplishing that. If Pacquiao wants to fight him now, he and his promoter Bob Arum are going to have to try and ignore how badly Mosley has looked lately. I don’t know that they will. I think Pacquiao and Arum will stick to fighting the hot fighters and look for the best possible match-up after Pacquiao dispatches with Antonio Margarito in November.
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@ apatz
Dalawaz, Tatloz, Limaz, Animz, Pitoz, Siyamz, and Sampoz know you the MUFKKER cuz we had yo momma swallowin!
For everyone hoping for a Mosley/Pacquiao fight in the future…..it’ll have to have a “CATCHROUND” which means instead of catchweight, the round could only go 2 rounds ands after that it wouldn’t be fair for the 40 yrs old Mosley.
SSM has “deserved” this opportunity more than Cotto, Clottey, and Margarito (combined). SSM has never met the criteria to fight Manny because he still (yes…even at 39) poses too much risk, w/o the guarantee of a highly significant (PBF type) reward. I think that is very clear to see. Manny risks being KTFO by SSM. I don’t see that same risk for SSM…too big, too much heart…too much chin…just enough left in the tank…and he loves to brawl. When SSM loses by stoppage to someone and/or proves he cannot pull the trigger at all…Freddie will consider this as an option.
alvarez vs mosley……..let’s see if canelo gets the torch.
Pacauio dont deserve a fight with Mosley! He needs to prove himself first with about 3 or 4 more tomato cans! Mosley is in the twilight of his career but he still could beat pac..Mosley dont have the big promoter to pick and choose only fights that compliment him to make him look good..
I agree Mosely won this fight. Boxing is becoming a Joke. Mora is terrible
Mosley won that fight easily. Mora was horrible and was completely outclassed. I still cannot believe they gave him the draw. Ridiculous.
TO ALL LOVERS OF BOXING:
WITH THE LATEST SHOW OF BOXING AGAINST SERGIO MORA, SHANE MOSLEY IS NO LONGER AN ATTRACTION OF PPV. HE NEEDS TO RETIRE AND ENJOY LIFE AND GIVE CHANCE TO OTHER PROMISING BOXERS. HE SHOULD STOP DREAMING FOR A COMEBACK. THE FIRST ATTEMPT WITH MAYWEATHER WAS A CLASS D SHOWMANSHIP AND WAS DEFEATED. HE HAS A CHANCE WITH SERGIO MORA TO REDEEM THAT LOSS FROM MAYWEATHER, BUT FAILED. THE ONCE STAR OF YESTERDAY, CAN’T PROVE TO DIEHARD FANS THE TRUST HE GAVE THEM. HE IS AN OLD MAN NOW. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. BEFORE REDEEMING A PREVIOUS DEFEAT FROM MIGUEL COTTO AND A DREAM OF MEETING MANNY PACQUIAO IN THE RING, HE MUST FIRST MEET ANDRE BERTO AND DEFEAT HIM TO REGAIN HIS IMAGE. THAT MATCHUP WITH BERTO WAS TO HAVE TAKEN LAST JANUARY, BUT WAS DISCONTINUED HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE DEVASTATING EARTHQUAKE IN HAITI. ONLY THEN CAN HE AVENGE HIS DEFEAT WITH MIGUEL COTTO. IS HE DETERMINED TO DEFEAT HIM? HE HAS TO RESOLVE LOT OF STUMBLING BLOCKS BEFORE FINALLY CHALLENGING THE HERO OF P4P KING, MANNY PACQUIAO.
JACK FLORES
BOXING ANALYST
MANILA, PHILIPPINES
SORRY PACTARDS, I’m not buying it. Sergio Mora didn’t want to engage, he back pedalled and held and clinched all night.
NO MORE OF MORA…PLEASE!!!
This is not what is called the Mexican Warrior. This guy is a Joke!!!
Manny Pacquiao would look exactly the same with Mora!!!
I still want to see 2 bangers bang it out!
Mosely vs. Pacquiao at 147…BANG IT OUT!!!
abnoy loves mosley but arum does not.
I AM TRULY OBSESSED WITH MANNY PACQUIAO!!!!!! GOO OR BAD, I FEEL THE NEEDS TO WRITE HIS NAME IN MY ARTICLE TO MY DYING DAY!!!!
Whoops…an error here. Sorry Jason, this comment should be at following Chris Williams’ article.
T-Bone my man, as my father always says, if sh-it had wings it would fly. If Floyd was so sure he could whip Manny that fight would have been on long time ago. Think about the huge $ to be made and afterall, he calls himself “money” and does not want to make the biggest payday of all time?
MOO, make your mind up my brother….either Manny is a bum or he is not.The man is a small man who tests himself against much bigger guys because he is not afraid of losing. In fact he wants to cement it. Nobody jumps too quicly and that is why he tests at catchweight first and after that goes fully at the weight. In the Cotto fight he tested the power slowly and when he realized he could take it he went from speed to power shots.
Finally to the name callers here. How can you assume that omeone is Pinoy, Black or whatever by a letter. I love boxers from all backgrounds and styles. I am sure many other people like me write to praise and at times, criticize these very boxers that we love. Afterall it is our hard earned cash they are receiving.
I am a huge fan of Manny and Mosley. I do not care for Mora and am not a fan although I respect him as a boxer. Let me state her that Manny should be facing Marquez, not Margo. IMO Mosley looked confused and winded again and lost that fight.
As a long time boxing fan I cannot confirm it was a robbery because it was a somewhat subjective fight.
All the accounts I have read are split between fans and experts. The judges were the ones who made the call and I accept their decision. I am not a conspiracy theorist guy but I know Dave Bontempo and his partner had Mora winning easily but HBO had it different.
I have agreed and disagreed with Lederman many times in the past so before we hurl insults, remember you nor I can change the result. In previous fights where for sure the whole world knew it was robbery, all we ever got was a rematch. Peace!
Mora looked horrible, but these blog authors are blind! Mosley beat Mora, CLEARLY!!! What are you guys talking about?! Mosely has a better punch connect percentage, Mosely had landed more total punches, Mosely landed more power shots, Mosely also was the aggressor! What fighter were you guys watching?! This is embarrasing and undeserving to the veteran fighter. So does running make you a winning fighter?! Give me a break. You guys are smokin crack…..
Mora couldnt beat an aging Mosely. Both of these fighters looked terrible. Mora is lready 30 years old, he is only gonna get worst from here. Boring. One thing i can say is this: Mosely did not look to good, but geezzz Mora kept running, holding and making weired movements back and forth, hard to look good against that. Mosely actually in pretty good shape to chase Mora for all those rounds.
I want to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. at 142 lb Catchweight….
mora showed why mosley ainth worth much and was easy pickin for the slowin down floy.
Just goes to show he was too old for Floyd. Nice job beatin’ on a grandpa.
And so it is as zrdx noted without even lifting a boxer’s hand, pbf was exposed by the Pacman for even in the sweet science, greatness is still defined within the context of past history, sociological forces and that unmeasurable determinant, fate.
Tbone, if we live in a vacuum where greatness is defined purely on boxing skills and physical attributes, I agree that Pbf in the recent past could have decisioned or beaten the Pacman. But within the context of the recent past and the current trends, the greater forces that determine the course of history suggest that to even remain an active pro boxer, and a successful one with preserved skills and undiminished power is perhaps asking a bit too much for now, let alone reclaiming a once in a lifetime opportunity to fight the Pacman and rehabilitating your deteriorating legacy and rep
SUCKS!!!! SUCKS!!!! the match is a rip off. Don’t do this to us. We need an exciting and interesting boxing match. SUCKS!!! SUCKS!!! Love to see a knockout! Quite disappointed of the bout. SUCKS!!! SUCKS!!!
Pacman is right of not fighting Mosley. Mosley is too old and too slow for him. What a pity!!! Mosley just need money to pay his alimony. It’s always M0ney!!They should have not put up this fight. What a disappointment and boring fight. Mosley should fight in a four (4) rounder bout. There is no place for him in any major bout. Retire!! Retire !!! Mosley, I beg you, if you still have some pride left in you. Don’t rob us boxing fans.
@Antonio Musing,
Cotto was at that time, coming into his prime when Mosley lost. Which was also a very close fight. Until Cheato…Cotto was on his way to becoming a very very strong WW. But he never fully recovered from that loss to Cheato. You cant just label things for what they are like you do. The fact is, and imtelling you…Mayweather will destroy Pacquiao. Plain and simple.
Now lets look at pacs
0. Cheato – 1 dimensial cheater 0 chance of winning
Cheato will be fought at a “Catchweight”. = Drained
1. Clottey – Total Bumb but at least he is way bigger than pac, still a bum with 0 chance of winning = Fixed
2. Cotto – World class elite fighter that is way bigger than many and only loss was to a guy that had plaster in his gloves
Cotto at a Ctachweight of 145 = “Drained”
3. Hatton – Bumb no defense 1 dimensional still bigger than pacman
Hatton, done after losing to Mayweather = DONE FIGHTER
4. Oscar – over the hill but way biger than pac
Oscar fought at a “Catch Weight”. SEVERELY DRAINED AND DEHYDRATED ALOST TO THE POINT OF DYING.
Manny Pacquiao is the biggest joke of theboxing world. Tied with Sergio Mora.
Shane…let’s have a rematch.
I need cash.
Mosely fought pretty well at the heavier weight. Let’s see how Pacquiao handles it.
Mosely at 147 would be a whole different story. Mora needs to fight Williams and Martinez at Middleweight.
Now that is the joke of boxing!
@ Sean just want to point something out to you. Before Manny faced Oscar he had won a UD over Steve Forbes that year. When he faced Hatton, Hatton had TKO’d Paulie Malinaggi in the fight previous to that. When he faced Cotto was a champion as well as Hatton was and he had won two fights in a row that year alone Michael Jennings TKO round 5 and Joshua Clottey SD 12. Margorito just won a 10 round UD over Robert Garcia this May. I still have it handicapped 60-40 in Margorito’s favor but to say that Pac only fights losers you don’t follow boxing at all and don’t know what phuck kind of bias stuff you say. You just stupid sh1t from behind a jizz-stained keyboard. I’m sick internet haters.
Lets look at mayweathers last 4 opponents
1. Mosley – clearly over the hill after last nights performance
2. Marquez – way to small for mayweather but still a good fighter but hes just a fight or 2 away from being over the hill
3. Hatton – Bumb with no defense. totaly 1 dimensional fighter with over rated power
4. DeLaHoya – eleite fighter but just a little over the hill when he faught mayweather
Now lets look at pacs
0. Cheato – 1 dimensial cheater 0 chance of winning
1. Clottey – Total Bumb but at least he is way bigger than pac, still a bum with 0 chance of winning
2. Cotto – World class elite fighter that is way bigger than many and only loss was to a guy that had plaster in his gloves
3. Hatton – Bumb no defense 1 dimensional still bigger than pacman
4. Oscar – over the hill but way biger than pac
The truth is that they have had equal opposition except for the cotto fight and the fact that all the guys manny was fighting were much bigger than him. That does count for something. Also when you look at manny and floyds common opponents its clear that oscar, hattan and marquez its clear that manny was taking more risks by fighting them than floyd because of the wieght differences and manny clearly dominated them more than floyd did. lets be real about this Pacman is and should be the p4p best in the world not floyd. O and did i forget that Manny has 6 fights since mayweathers retirement.
Win lose or draw…Mosley needs to retire! He definetly had no business fighting at 154 again!
I fall sleep when I was watching the fight, I know 1 and 2 round will end up in draw.The under card fights is much better than the main event, its time to retired.
As for Mora and Mexicans, we don’t claim him…Margo wuz knocking out mofos like Sergio Martinez and abusing boricuas like Cintron and Cotto when Mora was tryng to land his first pssy from his high school crush.
Shane has come to the very end of the road. He cant do himself justice anymore. Its time to call it a day hes had a great career. Its over
In short, Mosley, a great fighter, should retire and concentrate on his son in becoming the next great boxer of the next decade…Mora should go back to selling low riders and Come November 15, Pacman will pass the torch to the Mexican redeemer and retire into politics
Mosley, passing his mid thirties, struggling against his previous fights with Cotto and Mayorga, suddenly, like a blind man given sight found renewed strenght and vigor against the man destroyed Cotto (THauser et al).
Judging by the quantum decline in power and stamina in his fight with Pbf, and the ost testing bandied about, one has to conclude that the shane floyd fought is a natural shane without peds for a protracted period (TAtlas et al).
Mosley struggling at a higher weight against a reality tv contender is almost prima facie evidence that it was shane all along who cheated in that Margo fight.
You think Mora is even in the top ten? You think he’d stand a chance against real pros…he barely made it out of reality tv competition!
Let me school Mosley’s supporters, and by direct implication, the failed and faked magnificence of pbf’s performance against Mosley and the contextual nuance of the Mosley v Margo beatdown.
During the feds investigation of Balco, it was clearly established Mosley’s a big time client of Conte’s elixir of the clear, otherwise known as Rocket Fuel in the bizness, undetected because of the cream that maintained the natural ration of active and pro androgen and epo which made his hematocrit so thick he coulda stroke out during the odl fight.
Backing down a tad because of the ongoing investigation post odl, he cruised on his talent and relative youth. Losses to forrest and wright was met with a revisit to ped usage but not full cycling and not Conte’s supercharged rocket fuel. With father time naturally asserting itself, subpar performances against Cotto and loosing, had it not been for a lucky tko in the twelth, to an ageing Mayorga and the prospect of going against Margo convince both his new trainer and the man himself that full cycling was his only chance against the tornado from tijuana.
Are you Kidding? First off there were tons of people picking Mora and not giving shane a chance in hell. Not only did shane beat mora he did it by a wide margin too. This coming off a bad beating by mayweather. Shane came right back to fight unlike alot of fighters. Anyone here who thought mora won should be ashamed of themselves. mora did nothing for eight rounds until he was shamed by the boos in the audience to somewhat fight. Shane won 9 rounds out of 12 plain and simple.
mayweather fought mosley and beat mosley at his own game which was amazing. You hardly ever see any fighter done this to mosley, ever. that’s the difference. mayweather is naturally the smaller guy, haha
@Jackson
Pacquiao will no longer fight Mayweather, coz Li’l Floyd will get his arse uber busy for the greatest fight of his life – the legal fight to stay out of prison. He missed his chance, Floyd got beaten off the squared ring. If he had accepted the fight with Pacquiao, he surely wont be in that crazy mess he’s in
Wow who’s amazed at who pacquiao fights you better believe his (pacquiao) oponents wont even be a top 10 guy, ridiculous.
You are q bunch of fools! Claiming to know boxing and dont know jax!!!! First of all Mosley went up in weight to fight Mora, Mosley clearly wanted to fight but Mommas boy Mora did not wanna trade with Mosley which was smart of him… Mosley doubled the punches landed including power punches so how in the f*** you think this could be a draw or a win for Mora??? Ridiculous bias fools!!!! I saw the rounds Mora won and he didnt even won 5 rounds!!!!! Be real, Mora is a chump…. Mosley as old as he is hes still a threat to anyone!
Mora was too big for Mosley but Mosley beat him all the same. I don’t see how that reflects badly on Mosley. Mora fought a negative fight as he always does. Mosley did what he could against a bigger guy with a longer reach and fast hands who wants to wrestle and run rather than fight. I still think Shane would destroy pretty much any other welterweight out there.
@Jackson. “Mosely would be too strong for Pacquiao at 154″. That´s definitely true, “but” don´t forget the more heavier he is, the more slower he will be. As I said before, he is pushing 40 by the time it´ll happen and Pacquiao is only 32 by then. His speed, his youth and his angles will slow Mosley down. I´m looking forward already the fights by year 2011. Because now I am wondering, if Mayweather will grab again that opportunity from Mosley. We all know, Li´l Floyd is a very unpredictable, jealous man. If Mayweather sees how big attention Pacquiao-Mosley fight may gather, I´ll not be surprised if Mayweather agrees to fight Pacquiao.
mora schooled and exposed the bum in mosley. mora showed why li’l floyd had slowed down a bit because floyd got clipped by an old, slowfooted mosley.
@ANTONIO MUSING, Let me make sure a got this right. Mosely absolutely anihilates Cheato, but Cheato is the best fight for Pacquiao?
You guys are amazing! They way you worship Pacquiao is almost cult like. You can justify Pacquiao avoiding any threat whatsoever to his crown, while giving credence to meaningless matchups at “Catchweights”.
You little guys are simply amazing.
Tell Pacquiao to fight Mayweather at 151. You know the little fella would get CRUSHED!!!
As for floyd, I just hope he doesn’t loose his ways, his relevance, to a fleece johnson in the jailhouse…hope he doesn’t do no jailtime cuz he ain’t no ving rhames.
If Mora is so egregious, what does that say of Mosley…his past two fights has dissolved any potential matchup with the pacman…he is no longer relevant and Mora was never relevant.
The relevant fighter/challenger to the reign of the most relevant fighter of the past decade in proboxing remain Antonio Margarito in the most compelling fight to balance the whirlwind of destruction to Mexican boxing exacted by the Pacman.
@ Antonios Musing,
I disagree with you. I just think fighting someone like Mayweather is a whole different ballgame. Thats what makes him so special. Mayweather just breaks you down mentally and physically.
HAHAHA. and you think this is going to stop Mosley from getting a shot at Pacquiao? Give me a break. Did Clottey deserve a shot? Does Margo? haha. Wouldnt be surprised if Pac ends up fighting the damaged Mosley.
It confirms two things last nite…Mosley was on full cycle peds during the Margorito fight and without peds during the Pbf and now Mora fight and that both fighters need to retire before they further damage the sport: Mosley is a cheating has been and Mora is a never been has been whose non engaging style and pot shots/holding and grabbing style is the last thing the sport needs and why pendejos style fighting must be nipped in the bud.
shane deserves a fight with paquiao,he earned it. He cannot make his opposition stand and fight.
Cmon Mexican go back and watch the fight again.And when mora lands two clean shots you probably gave him that round after snaking and tieing up.no way did mora impress enough to win except in the eluding facet.
mosley is a bum who got lucky against margarito. margarito must be really crying now.
I am proud of the fact that I did not pay to see this ppv event. Why this fight was even on ppv I’d like to know. Mosley is not ppv material unless he’s fighting a top notch fighter, and Mora ain’t that. Mora definitely ain’t a ppv fighter. Anyway all i’ve been reading is about how ugly this fight was with all the clinching, holding and elbowing and I really feel for the people who shelled out good money to see it.
Let’s see how Pacquiao does with Cheato at 151.
I think Pacquiao should fight Mayweather at 151.
After getting pounded by Floyd and showing his age against Mora, Pac may now grow some b@11s and agree to fight Shane. LOL. Isn’t that what Team Pac does? Wait for somebody to soften and break a fighter before they cherry-pick and ask them to dehydrate? There you go, Pac, Shane Mosley is ripe! Go get him while he’s not on wheelchair yet. LOL.
@Chakyun, I agree, Mosely fighting Pacquiao at 154 is a lot different than fighting a natural middleweight like Mora. At 154, Mosely and Pacquiao will be even, Neither will have an advantage. This will be an interesting fight.
I don’t thing Roach will allow Manny to fight Mosely at a heavier weight. No how, no way!!!!
Mosely was fighting a bigger guy in Mora that was holding and clinching a smaller guy in Mosely. So that should tell you he was feeling Mosely’s strength. Mosely would be too strong for Pacquiao at 154.
@Caringless,If Hatton,Oscar and Marquez were bums when Floyd fought them,what are they called when Manny fought them? Can’t have it both ways,if they are bums when Floyd faced them,they are even worse when Manny faced them.Also Manny is smaller than Hatton,Marquez,Oscar,so why do you want Floyd to fight him? Manny isn’t in his prime,he is on a winning streak.Manny isn’t a natural WW so Floyd beating him means nothing when it comes to Floyd’s WW record.Talk long enough you will put your foot in your mouth again!
I bought this card,and it was mostly a showcase event for prospects.,who won thier perspective opportunity to show off thier skills. mora did not give the fans what they payed to see,his unwillingness to box properly was a travesty for fans that paid.He held on the inside repeatedly so that Mosely could not unleash ,and snaked his body like a runnaway snake,and then tied up Moselys arms so that he was unable to throw.The reff.Should have warned him,for the fights sake to stop the upright smothering by wrapping his arms around a willing fighter.Mosely had won the fight in my opinion,on aggretion and default by Mora.
@fua,I guess Pac cherry picked Cotto,Hatton,Oscar,and now Margo the same way.When was the last time Manny has faced someone on a winning streak? Plus Mosley was deemed to good for Manny by his own trainer.
Floyd beat the African American out of Shane.Now Mosley wants to be Mexican,to bad he doesn’t fight head first with an reckless abandon like one.Floyd turned Ricky into a addict and Shane into a Chicano.
Pacquiao vs. Mosely as Mosely’s last career fight!
This would be a perfect tribute to a future boxing hall of famer!!!
Mora is an embarrassment to the Mexican culture!!!
WE DON’T CLAIM HIM!!!
@Chakyun, what you fail to realize is that Mosely will fight Pacquiao at 147, not a bloated 154. There is a huge difference!
Mora is also a true middleweight that should be fighting Martinez and Williams. The Chicket SHT won’t do it.
Do all of you know that Mora is a Middleweight that was fighting a WelterWeight that struggled to get to 154?
Mosley deserves to fight Pacquiao? Maybe so, but what I´m a bit worried for Mosley, if that happens, he may end up retiring. He just celebrated his birthday, he is now 39 yrs. old just 2 weeks ago, 7th of September. By the time the fight happens, Mosley is pushing 40. He lost to Mayweather by UD, because of Mayweathers speed, eventhough he completed the 12 rounds. He received so many punches from Mayweather and we know Pacquiao throws punches more than Mayweather. Mosley was chasing Mora for the who 12 rounds, but still ended up in a draw. Many said Mosley look like an old man compare to Mora. What do you think Pacquiaos speed will do to him, aside from the amount of punches he´ll receive from him? And we all know Mora is not Pacquiao!
Mora won? What fight were you watching, boxing writer guy? You do know that Mosley landed more punches than the light hitting Mora, right? Even if Mosley did win this fight, he needs to retire on the account of beating this B rated fighter, Mora. But it did show that Mayweather’s trump up win over Mosley is nothing to thump the chest. Mayweather beat up an old, washed up, 38 going 50 Mosley.
Look at Mayweather’s last 4 opponents, Baldomir, Hatton, Oscar, and Mosley. These know-nothing writers are making Floyd’s bones on these four. LMAO! Baldo got KO’d by Alvarez, Baldo is a punching bag, he can’t move, he got no lateral movement, he is super slow, and walks right in, a B minus figher.
Hatton is a one dimensional fighter that took Mayweather 10 rouonds to figure out and knock him down, it took Pacquiao one round to KD Hatton.
Oscar was washed up and he lost a split decision to Mayweather, Pacquiao demolished and shut out Oscar in one of the worse and lopsided beating in modern history of boxing.
Marquez was fighting at featherweight at the age of 33, Marquez is a natural featherweight. With a two pounds advantage over Marquez, Floyd couldn’t even stop him or knock him down again after the second round. Marquez had to come up 17 pounds to fight Floyd at 144, that wasn’t enough advantage for Floyd, he had to come in two pounds heavier than Marquez. Now talk about stacking the deck in one’s favor.
Marquez keeps insisting that Pacquiao is afraid to fight him. LMAO! Afraid is not the word, Marquez being stupid is it. Marquez wants Pacquiao to come down to 140 AND then Marquez wants a 50% share of the purse. Marquez is now suffering from brain damage from all the times that Pacquiao decked him. In what universe does the cash cow of boxing be the one to bend to the sub par opponent?
Let’s give Pacquiao the same scenario against Marquez, let’s have a Pacquiao/Marquez fight at 144, then let’s have Pacquiao come in at 146 and pay off Marquez for 600K. Marquez would not get pass the 7 round. Marquez will at least be floored 2 or 3 times before Pacquiao stops him cold.
For those who thinks Mayweather is going to fight Pacquiao, you guys are not thinking. Mayweather will make anykind of excuse to avoid fighting Pacquiao. He used the steroid testing issue when Pacquiao insisted that a 10 million dollar penalty for each pound Mayweather comes in heavy. Now he says he is retired after he was caught lying about the negotiations.
The Mayweathers know Pacquiao is the better fighter, that is the sole reason why they will not fight Pacquiao, plain and simple as that. If Mayweather is so confident of beating Pacquiao, then why is he running all over the place making up one excuse after another. The truth is Mayweather is scared stiff in fighting Pacquiao.
Mayweather will only fight Pacquiao if he does not have any other option. He will continue to fight the old, the smaller, and tomato cans if HBO and GBP keeps giving him money to fight those type of opponents.
Tell me this, why would Mayweather fight the Fighter of the Decade for millions of dollars when he can fight tomato cans for millions of dollars.
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Mosley was the aggressor and he threw more punches but that was it. Mora made him look silly at times. Sure he ran but he is not a bomber so why stand up and trade with Mosley when it is a known fact that he has problems with movers?
When Shane was younger he had better foot speed, not great but better. He still has decent hand speed and certainly has not lost his power. Why would Mora play into his strengths and not use his own which is boxing and movement? I cannot understand why people write in and ask sucg inane questions. It is like watching a distance race where the some athletes set a blistering pace to take the strength away from those who have speed at the end. Conversely, the guys with speed try to slow it down. People it is called strategy.
Each person is trying to impose the style that gives them the best chance to win. Mosley tried very hard but once again he looked gassed and ineffective, only this time it a bit later and not from the 2nd rd. To those who mention that he threw the most shots, again many of them landed on arms and are not considered to be effective scoring.
I am a huge Mosley fan and have been for years. I do not feel Mora is a great boxer and doubt he will ever make it to the HOF like Mosley will. But he beat Mosley like an old dirty carpet. I suspect that hiswin over Margarito might have been misleading. 1. It is possible that Margarito may have been distracted by the glove issue. 2. He is a stationary target anyway and 3.
At his age Mosley probably was inactive for too long and it looks like he is showing his age. He looked slow, confused and unscientific regarding what to do about Mora’s movement. His history is regular fighing. We have to take another look at his ‘Money” fight and we will see the same sings after the 2nd rd. Like my other favourite Super Roy, I hope Shane quits now before he continues to tarnish his legacy with losses to lesser fighters. Or worse gets seriously hurt.
WHAT A BORING FIGHT!. . . SUGAR SHANE MOISTLY? . . tsk..tsk..tsk…
a moron and a flomo=same style of boxing.. run and dont git hit as much as possible
mosley and richardson should have checked the illegal plaster in mora’s shoes. shane could have gotten a ktfo.
mosley is old and past his prime. mosley received a better gift from margarito, a ktfo. mora should not feel bad in gifting mosley with a draw. mora is in gbp stable anyway.
@manohman: u know nothing about boxing!!! shane was made to look like an amateur! he wasn’t able to adjust to mora’s strategy. mosley is old and slow! he really should retire!
Man I was going for Mora but as soon as he started to run I was chanting Mosley! Mora is boring as hell! Mosley wanted to make it a fight and entertain the fans! Well I really cant argue about the Draw. But if Mora would of trade shots with Mosley it would of been over in three! I guess he had to do what he had to do to try to win. You cant Hate on Mosley, Mora is ackward long and a runner. I would not mind to see Mosley vs Berto or Chavez jr. or a rematch vs Cotto or Margarito. and hopefully that would be his last! for Mora I would like to see him fight someone like Malanagi.
You guys are complete fools if you think Mora won this fight…that means you don’t know sh*t about boxing. Mosley won and was robbed with the draw…eventho he does look pretty bad and needs to retire….Pac will beat Mosley at this stage of their careers…the funny thing is …I believe Mosely would beat Floyd and Pac easily if he was in his prime..(maybe not easily)
Mora was robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mora was robbed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Mora was robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mora was robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Mora was robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mora was robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Mora was robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mora was robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Mora was robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mora was robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Mora was robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mora was robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Mora was robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mora was robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Mora was robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mora was robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mosley must retire.. he’s boring now and old.
MOSLEY YOU BUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does no body care about punch stats anymore? Mosley out landed him by a average of 6 punches per round… And I can’t believe the same people who call Floyd a runner are now defending Mora, At least Floyd stands flat-footed in the pocket while he throws 1 punch at a time, Mora just runs around for 12 rounds and throws arm punches. What a disgrace this whole fight was!!! The undercard was great though!
Serg should of won nah from wat I read it seems that way. Haven’t got to see it yet didn’t want to pay for. Wonder how Many people brought it?
pac should fight winner between bradley & alexander if fight against floyd falls through again. mosley is shot. marquez is not himself at higher divisions. but williams is too big and may not be able to go back down to welterweight anymore. pac will be destroyed by williams if he fights him at junior middleweight. pac is too small to beat any of the top junior middleweights.
golden boy promotions clearly was behind this. even a blind man would have seen that mora clearly won! this was gifted to mosley so as to keep his chances, if any, to land a big money fight with pacman or any of the big-named fighters out there. mosley is apparently a shot fighter!!! he can’t pull the trigger anymore. he looked already winded during the first half of the fight. he should consider hanging his gloves.
@true boxing fan: you’re stupid! which fight were you watching, dude? mosley won clearly won?! you obviously don’t know anything about boxing! mora toyed with him. he is a slick, cunning mo’ fo’. very elusive. he knew exactly what to do against mosley and executed it to a T! i have a knew found respect for the guy. you probably have a point when you say that he is boring. but that’s boxing. hit and don’t get hit!!!
Jason I agreed that’s the reason mosley went back to welter weigth.
Hey guys man up! Mosely won this fight easily, not sayng he looked good but he clearly won the fight. Mora is a horrible fighter, boring, a runner and certintly not entertaining. What a joke to boxing.
Where are all the guys who said Mosley was going to win EASILY and that Mora was a NOBODY. Where are they hiding now? hahah… Mora may not have won, but he pulled out a draw against a hall of famer.
mosley has fast hands, he just doesnt have legs to match. it was elementary match-making on mayweather’s part.
great column Jason Kim..I agree…it seems it is time for Shane to give it up…he does not have it anymore.
Mora was ROBBED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He clearly won 7 rounds.. I don’t see how any judge could give Mosley 116-112 that is so lobsided, no other judge scored it by such a wide margin.
To much emphasis on skill to make fights happen these days whatever happened to good old fashioned brawls forehead to forehead like say Corrales/Castillo1. That what people will pay to see I’m saying. When they know it will be a brawl that somebody will be KTFO’d in.
Mayeather’s victory isnt looking so good after tonight is it?
LOL a draw, this just shows how weak the Mayweather vs Mosley fight was. No wonder, Mayweather choose not to fight Pacquiao, and decided to fake phoney arrest charges. Pacquiao would KO Mayweather in the ring.
If a B fighter can get a draw then an A fighter such as William will send Mosley out in a stretcher.
mosley’s last good performance was cotto and I think h’s body is now on steep downhill. he still has power but he does not have endurance anymore and his speed advantage is no longer there. his style of fighting definitely is not effective at this age and the opposition’s like mora made it even harder to win. mora is not even a B fighter but mosley had trouble with the style so mosley’s draw was really an uphill battle and good thing his experience help him get a draw. at this point, mosley is only fighting for money not for a better performance.
Everybody wants to fight Pac now that he is the MONEY MAKER. Too bad old man Mosley is out of the race. Pac will likely find someone with a belt to challange.
Old man Mosley needs to retire.. or bribe Marquez to jump three weight class to challenge him like his fellow goldenboy Felonyweather
This proves that Floyd beat a washed up/ shot Mosley. Still better than beating a girl and two boys, though!
Man you is stupid, styles make fights. mosley fights everybody, he has now fought skilled fighters lately and pacquiao has never NEVER fought a skilled fighter ever, lol
“elbows, forearms and a lot of good wrestling.”
This is boxing. Not MMA. There must’ve been like 10 times where Mora should’ve been deducted a point for either holding the head, holding the body, or headbutting. It was a disgrace because the night was going so well too. Mora did not deserve that whatsoever because of all these illegal techniques he was doing. He clearly kept stuffing mosley down from behind or would grab him, go in for a headbutt, etc…. It was an absolutely terrible fight. I feel bad for Mosley because he looked like he was trying to make a fight out of it where Mora would throw a punch, then either run or grab his head. It was just terrible to watch.
@FUA What are U talking about Mayweather fought Mosley when he came off his K.o victory against Marg he looked very quick and strong in that fight…Only after the Mayweather are U saynig that Mosley is old n slow.. yeah compared to May or even Pac this is true but he is still fast strong enough to beat Cotto or Berto.. P.S Mayweather K.o Baldomir in sparring for the De La Hoya fight
How bout this fight: This time next year Angulo vs Margorito at junior middleweight in Dallas Cowboy stadium. Call the pay-per-view “This One’s For La Rossa” The place would be packed to the rafters. Angulo’s promoter Gerry Shaw would be down with it. I think it’s Bob Arum who would act scary.
It’s proven that Floyd readily arranged the fight with Mosley because he knows Mosley’s slow and gasping.
Floyd is cherry picker who takes advantage of slow aging fighter like Mosley in his resume.
Mosley-Mora aftermath proved that Floyd took advantage of Mosley’s age.
Alvarez knocking out Baldomir proved that Floyd has brittle hands. Floyd fought Baldomir once in a boring 12-round points decision.
I think Angulo would win because he doesn’t wear out even in the late rounds like 10-12 if he catches you clean your goin down! Hell he would knock Margorito clean out of his shoes and show him what a real Mexican fighter punches like.
I’ll tell you what would be an impressive at junior middleweight, James Kirkland versus Alfredo Angulo. That would be a good fight neither of them back down when the fight gets heavy who do you think would win?
Biggest loser at tonight’s fights is floyd…both guys he fought baldomir (got annihllated by saul) and sugar shane really starting to show his age…..floyd’s victory over shane just became that much less impressive bec of shane’s performances in his last 2 fights (3 of his last 5 if you include his showing against mayorga)
Mosley was just pressing and leaning his body to stay up in the final rounds. Mora had enough energy to run three laps around the stadium. Well, technically he was running the entire night.
Boring fight.
The judges have it wrong in my opinion. Mora should have won even though he wasn’t the aggressor. He landed more clean shot. Dodge a bunch of power shots from Shane.
The undercard fights were exciting.
pacman should of fought the first time mosely asked for it, there’s no point now