Boxing politics: Not what the fans want
September 9th, 2010
By Jordan Sargent: There was a time where boxing fans got what they wanted. Fans wanted Ali v Frazier so they got it. The fans wanted Tyson v Spinks and guess what, they got it! So what has changed? In this article I want to question why the two biggest fights in boxing cannot be made. The fights I am talking about is of course P4P kings Floyd Mayweather Jr (41-0-0, KO 25) and Manny Pacquiao (51-3-2, KO 38) , and secondly World Boxing Association heavyweight champ David Haye (24-1-0, KO 22) versus one of the Klitschko brothers.
The question has to be asked ‘where does a boxer’s money come from?’ The answer is quite simple… the fans! The fans are the ones who buy the tickets and PPV fights and even more importantly, the fans are the ones who watch the fights. In other words, without you and I these elite fighters could not make the living they are now. So when we decide to shell out our hard earned cash especially through a time of economic hardship we ask only one simple thing. ‘Please… make it worth it!’ In other words ‘give us the fights we want with no excuses!’ That’s not much too ask… is it? Apparently it is…
One of the things I love about boxing fans apart from being passionate is that they are honest, they know what they want and when they want it. Every fan knows which fighters they like and have a list as long as their arm of potential opponents. So I see no reason why these paying fans cannot get their wishes. Every fan wants Mayweather and Pacquiao to fight and will pay to see it, that should be enough. Yet we see excuse after excuse!
It doesn’t matter to the paying public if Manny denies blood testing (which he accepted in the end) or if Floyd wants few more million to throw on the pile, all we care about is the fight! This fight will be the biggest PPV boxing event of all time and generate a huge amount of cash for the promoters, TV stations and fighters involved. However, what we see is Mayweather inactive and Pacquiao matched against former WBA welterweight champ Antonio Margarito for the WBC 154lb belt. Fellow Top Rank fighter Margarito is returning from suspension and will unlikely use plaster this time round.
In similar fashion, after Haye V Vitali/ Vladimir Klitschko fell through each fighter has gone their own way. Instead of probably the biggest heavyweight fight since Tyson V Lewis we will witness fights which will not reignite the heavyweight scene. WBA champion Haye will face former Olympic gold medallist Audley Harrison (27-4-0, KO 20) who at 38 has never stepped above domestic level. We will see WBC champ Vitali Klitschko (40-2-0, KO 38) against a past best Shannon Briggs (51-5-1, KO 45) and IBF/WBO holder Vladimir Klitchsko (54-3-0, KO 48) taking on a declining Samuel Peter (34-3-0, KO 27). For all three of these fights I have just one question from an honest fans point of view…Why? Again, it doesn’t matter to the paying public who deserves more and where it is held (unless you want to travel to see the fight) all the fans want is the fight! If it is one division that is craving a much needed boost, it is without doubt the heavyweight division and a Haye V Klitschko fight would do just that.
So when examining both of the potential mega fights, it is clear that many parties will benefit. Firstly the fans will get what they want, secondly the fighters get a massive payday and lastly the sport gets a needed boost. Where’s the problem? It’s got to be either ego or greed …hasn’t it?
So what can be done? Should the fans boycott fights they don’t want? This only harms the sport they love further by lowering PPV figures and with rivals UFC growing quickly, is this good for boxing? Should the media do more? The media have built up and talked about Mayweather V Pacquiao for a while now and all it has achieved is rumour, speculation and unanswered questions. The answer lies with the fighters and their promotional teams. All involved should communicate efficiently and will have to make concessions to their demands. Only then will these fights happen, and the fighters will satisfy the people who make them a fortune… the fans.
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Plain and simply the two fighters who are dodgers of the best fights to be made is the fact they want to keep winning and somehow people are so stupid that they are being self protected for thier ego then for thier fear of looking less than what they want people to believe they are.
At this stage, moneyless-stressed-out-jail-bird-disgraced Lil’ Floyd should call out:
Mike Tyson – he may convert Lil’ Floyd to Islam and no catchweight…please
Hatton – just require blood test for possible cocaine
But should avoid a showdown with Cotto. Cotto is just too strong and too smart for Lil’ Floyd
Some people say Mayweather needs a tune up fight before fighting Pacquiao. I think he did a tune up fight against his ex-girlfriend. lol
The fans want the best to fight the best…period! Manny n Floyd need to get in on soon! Floyds last two fights were against two of the best p4p..They only got old and small AFTER he schooled them! Some one tell me what are the p4p rankings of Clottey and Cheato? Thats what I thought!
BOXING IS THE MOST TIRESOME IN ANY OTHER SPORTS EVENT. THE WINNER TAKE IT ALL IS A BAD PROPOSITION AND THE BOXING COMMISSION SHOULD NOT SUNCTION IT. THINK OF IT. I BELIEVE BOXING SUNCTIONING BODY SHOULD WRITE POLICIES, GUIDELINES OR RULINGS FOR BOXING TO THRIVE. FOR EXAMPLE CHERRYPICKING SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED OR MUST BE PROHIBITED. GIVE CHANCE TO OTHER TOP AND TOUGH CHALLENGERS TO FIGHT TITLE HOLDER OF A CERTAIN DIVISION. NOT SAME BOXER FIGHTING ALL THE TIME LIKE OTHER FIGHTERS. YOU CAN NAME A FEW. IF YOU NOTICE HOW MANY TIMES A BOXER HAS BEEN SEEN FIGHTING IN RECENT BOUTS? HE IS THE SAME FIGHTER AND HAS A NEW FIGHT SCHEDULE. GIVE A CHANCE TO OTHERS. THE RANDOM DRUG TEST SHOULD NOT BE DONE WITHIN DAYS PRIOR TO FIGHT BOUT. I CAN SEE A RISK ON THE PART OF THE FIGHTER. INSTEAD SHOULD BE PERFORMED RIGHT AFTER THE FIGHT BOUT ON TOP OF THE RING TO BE SAFE FOR FIGHTERS AND TO AVOID CHEATING ON EITHER SIDE. IF ONE IS FOUND POSITIVE OF DRUG USAGE, THE PRIZE IS FORFEITED IN FAVOR OF THE OTHER PARTY. THIS IS THE KIND OF RULING I WOULD LIKE THE BOXING COMMISSION TO ADOPT, NOT NECESSARILY EXACT RULING I WANT IT FOLLOWED, BUT AT LEAST IT WOULD HELP MINIMIZE IF NOT COMPLETELY ERADICATE SUSPICION, DOUBT AND CHEATING. I DO HOPE EVENTUALLY THE GOVERNING BODY OF BOXING OR THE COMMISSION ON BOXING ADOPT A SYSTEM TO CONTROL MANIPULATION, CLEAN AND FREE FROM CRITICISM.
JACK FLORES
BOXING ANALYST
MANILA, PHILIPPINES
@kevy kev: I thought you love this site!!!!
I guess road kill is providing information on how to track down Floyd Mayweather Jr. through recent money transactions, after beating his “baby mama,” Josie Harris. Floyd needs to turn himself in for questioning! He’s just a suspect at this point. After those steroid accusations he put on Manny Pacquiao, He too is guilty until proven innocent! Floyd can also pay Josie Harris, $40 million dollers “hush,” money as a settlement! Or, in boxing terms “step aside money!” After all he is his own boss!
li’l floyd is on training now.
his sparring partner is his baby mama. lol.
ohh floyd is in the philippines right now..
@ kevy kev
now you’re exposing yourself….
BREAKING NEWS:
Floyd battered and bit his ex-GF and as of now running from the law. 2 Mayweather down and 1 crackhead Sr. to go!
@ kevy:
what’s your point moron!
looks like floyd has chosen to ignore that comment because in choosing to dance with the stars former European flomo.
his last two fights against Danny Green and Bernard Hopkins, but still refuses to hang up the gloves just yet. The fight against by myself is stupid!
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they say in business “customer is always right” but in boxing promoters dont listen to fans, they just want business… again i want to wake up one day that boxing is a SPORT again! shame on those promoters who doesnt listen to customer, this is boxing defining moment and if those fight didnt happen boxing will surely die!
Mayweather had his ballz on his forehead
Its time to change the CASH COW to a COWARD COW……
@ kevy kev:
juts one question.
where is the floyd mayweather?????
i’m out
Floyd Mayweather vs. Josie Harris… WOW the toughest fight for floyd ever… lets get it on floyd!.. make your fans prouds as they are always.
Stay tune coz there’s more to come!
kevy kev says:
September 9, 2010 at 9:48 pm
i wonder what weight division did floyd and harris fought… hehehe!!
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Thanks Big Lo. A big chunk of Floyd’s $63 million he earned last year was through endorsements (His only fight last year was with JMM).
As you said, things could change for Floyd on his next fight (it works both ways, favorable or unfavorable), whoever or whenever it is. But with the latest news on him being a racist and woman beater, it is not a good sign.
@Lapu
As I understand it, it’s not that AT&T and Reebok “ended” their ties with Floyd necessarily, but they were on a deal on a fight by fight basis. When he returned to boxing last September, they signed him while he was promoting the Marquez and Mosley fights and the deal ended after May 1. They haven’t renewed any deal with him yet.
But, this could change when he signs for his next fight.
Why floyd talk so much and fight so little?
Is it true that Reebok and AT&T have ended their ties with Floyd???
With this new item hanging on Floyd, many more sponsors will be walking out from him.
FLOYD = CASH COW?????? or BULLY!!!!!!
floyd mayweather is a joke. and to all you mayweather nuthuggers, its about time to wake up and accept the truth.
the thing about mayweather is that they have it in their genes… big, nasty, foul mouth; boxing and beating up women… nice family… hehehe…. is this a typical african-american family?
@Lapu Lapu
i thought they’ll be fighting in Dubai… well, maybe that’s too far way… having a fight domestically is good thing for him… hehehe… i wonder if floyd went for a KO, i bet he’s into his shoulder roll again, when he beat harris… wahehehe…
I got to hand it to Floydie. He is on the news again but it was a different kind of boxing this time.
Whatever it is Kevy, I bet Floyd went over the agreed weight limit.
i wonder what weight division did floyd and harris fought… hehehe!!
This guy realy said the “P4P kings Floyd Mayweather Jr” Haha. A joke ring mag says pac is #1 who is he kidding. The guy has only 2 fights since 07 thats no p4p champ.
KNOCK KNOCK
(Floyd): Who’s there
(PAC): It’s Manny and I’m here with the contract for you to sign.
(Floyd): He is not here. He is on vacation.
An hour later.
KNOCK KNOCK
(FLOYD); Who is there.
(Police): It’s Las Vegas police and we wanted you for assault charges.
(FLOYD): OK, Take me. Take me
i thought mayweather only do one fight per year? hehehe…
Mayweather versus Harris, i guess that would be 42-0 for floyd! hehehe… now, who’s cherry picking? lol! wahehe!
If you have nothing to hide, take the test… from the police station. LOL
If floyd is not guilt why is he still hiding?
cool
Naw, it’s not politics, fighta are jusz moody, like women goin’ through menopause…I must admit, I should never put that poster of the Pacman in my bedroom…floyd jusz went nuts
Floyd is nothin but a coward, racist, woman beater like his uncle. Great poster boy there Flomos
now the fans are clamoring in favor of FLOYDIE as innocent before proven guilty. these people are the same hypocrite that PACQUIAO was guilty before proven innocent. what a bunch of fools. well anybody of FLOYD defenders wants to be a witness to testify that the woman beater is not guilty. one thing for sure if found guilty, he will spend his year 2011 inside the squared ring without ropes but jail bars. come on guys what’s the defense?
BREAKING NEWS: Floyd is wanted for beating an ex-GF Josie Harris…..TURN YO SELF IN COWARD!!!!!!
@Kev,
I know Roach has a bit of a history with PED’s (with James Toney and Justin Fortune).
@Kev,
That’s very interesting if it’s true. Roach has been very vocal about illegal handwraps throughout his career (he complained about Barerra’s hand wraps against Pac in the first fight and won, and he also complained about Barrera’s hand wraps against Tapia but lost). He also commented on Barrera’s “illegal” wraps against Morales in the rubber match.
@big lo well I heard this from a guy about 2yrs ago. I wouldnt doubt it because of the situation with margacheato, they ask roach why he didnt say anything about it, roach said that that was his fighter that’s why but I guess they throw double standard on the front porch untill they need it.
boxing fan 101 appreciate you for conducting yourself as an adult and understanding.
@Kev,
Wow! I never heard that. Details? Where did you hear that (about Roach illegally wrapping DLH’s hands)?
people need to start speaking out because bob arum says no free rides to people that is trying to become the next big thing. SAY WHAT YOU WANT BUT BOB is not happy with pack career because if he was he wouldve been more passionate in letting him fight real fighters. I think Nasim Richardson should have the authority to check every fighter hands before bouts because freddie roach is accused of wrapping oscar’s hand with illegal tape against mayweather. People dont care even if a guy got a sledge hammer in his trunks, it’s okay just a long as they beat mayweather. this is the problem. problems everywhere.
@Kevy Kev
I feel ya on that. 2 wrongs do not make a right. I like Mayweather as a FIGHTER and thats about it.
boxing fan 101 well i guess i dont get the time to experience mayweathers behavior because I’m not from vegas area but I have friends over there. I dont get the personalities mixed up, I like mayweather the fighter and I’m not perfect or anyone else, so I cant judge him. but if you dont like him i could understand that too. just dont be letting these fools cry foul then throw bricks and call foul again. it’s ridiculous man
@Boxing Fan,
OK, maybe I misread that. You must have been talking about a double-standard.
@Big Lo
And whats your point?
Boxing Fan said:
“Mayne im not even White of Filo. Im black from Las Vegas”
9 minutes later, Boxing Fan said:
“U you know damn will Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would be on that ass in a second, but if one of us says racist remarks they are no where to be found”
@Boxing Fan
Am I missing something?
@Kevy Kev
I know your a big Mayweather fan as I was at one point, but I can’t support a man that brings negetivity to the sport, to himself or others around him. I mean what kind of idol is that. I got a little baby girl and I can’t imagine her idoling the likes of lets say Paris Hilton or Lindsey Lohan. Ya feel me
Floyd Mayweather is bad for Boxing,
boxing fan 101 most asians aint buying this racists cr@p. did you hear any press from other countries putting out tabloids, No not many but his own country is doing this Not bush or obama but these writers. None what he said was a racists remarks but facts because pacquiao father supposibly ate their pet. NOT TRYING TO BE COMEDY
@Kevy Kev
Nah man. Im in no denial. I look at facts. Not at What i might think it is. You gotta give people the benefit of the doubt mayne other wise you will always over think everything.
boxing fan 101 I not in denial, I’ve been watching boxing for a loonggg time. when pack fought oscar it was a gimmick because oscar was pack’s co-promoter, you get it? oscar was retiring and has a fighter out there that’s still bringing in the bacon, you’re in denial my friend
is it really politics? or li’l floyd is plain scared?
@kevy Kev
Ummm did you watch that video? I did and it was pretty damn racist if you ask me.
Tell me this, What if the roles were reversed and Pac said racist things about Mayweather. Tell me what do you think might happen to Pac.
U you know damn will Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would be on that ass in a second, but if one of us says racist remarks they are no where to be found. Wheres the double standards.
@Kevy Kev
Man it sounds like your in denial. Did you ever think that this man could be in fact that good? Or is that an impossibility for you?
So he can’t be that good therefore he must be taking drugs?
Man some people are just that talented. This cat Pac, is like no other boxer anyone has ever seen. His a righty that boxes southpaw and that what makes him dangerous is both his hands are deadly.
boxing fan 101 it’s the media. they said mayweather’s racist rants. mayweather said lil young chump but the media said he said yellow chump. this si a disgrace, most people get blind of the simple fact that mayweather braggs about what he got but look how it was hard for him to get it!!!!!!!!Most of you blacks shouldnt down talk mayweather’s personal life because when these lil racist people use racist words they is talking about you also, we need to address any and every racists remarks. you get it!!!!!!!!
@Kevy Kev
Read this article:
“http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5527403″
Mayne im not even White of Filo. Im black from Las Vegas. I was a HUGE Mayweather fan. Im not even a fan of Pac, but I look at facts home boy. Look at what Mayweather has done to him self in a WEEK.
@Kevy Kev
Man are you listening to yourself? You sound like you have alot of hatred in your heart where you think everything is a conspiracy or something.
Pac has agreed to the testings, he has never failed any test. I dont get why you think other wise. Because his won so many times? Last time i checked his had 3 losses and Mayweather Has ZERO so why are they accusing Pac of ROIDS? beats the hell out of me. Or maybe its mind games. Floyd and MIND games? NO WAAAAY
Boxing fan 101 it never was confirmed that manny agreed to any testing. Get real man mayweather doesnt need any kind of medicine to beat pack because he’s hard to hit and you know it.
Boxing fan 101 the people that offers the testing only knows man. There’s no doubt in my mind that manny used some type of drugs made in the philo and I believe he has a blackballer somewhere around.
@Kevy Kev
Dude he didn’t refuse the second Negotiations. He AGREED to all of his demands. But what did Mayweather say? Im VACATIONING. REALLY? come on now.. thats bs
@Kevy Kev
Get your facts straight XYLO is a PERFORMANCE ENHANCER DRUG. You can’t feel anything in your hands therefore you can punch as hard and as much as you want. GET IT?
Boxing fan 101 it’s not a fact that we as a fan has but that doesnt mean manny’s clear of anything. He couldve been under investigation for over 5 years who knows. But the simple fact that he refuse testing brings on rightful accusations
@Kevy Kev
Thats my ? to you is has Pac failed any drug test.
Wrong, media lied to you pactard and you all just gobble it up like how PACMAN gobbles steriod.
Boxinf fan 101 steroids is a PED not numbing medicine and if I recall mayweather used it once in my recognition. Hbo wanted the fight then and there. so mayweather didnt have a choice because he hurted both hands. Now he says that if he cant come in 100% then he’s gonna postpone the fight, people had a problem with that. So did that answer your ?. Roids is a hella lot stronger than any banned substance, where as 1 of may’s hands could not have any feeeling as when pack whole body is numd and he can walk thru a 1000 ton train. get it!!!!!!
@Kevy Kev
So your saying Pac tested Positive for Steroids? Last time i Checked his passed every single one of them.
We know how dirty the media and followers are but they still cant blind other countries and nations, sad way. If I cant beat you then I’ll lie and try to destroy your name a rep while theirs is tormenting, hahahahahahaha
@Kevy Kev
Who’s the one thats actually taking PEDS? Please tell me. Who’s shoots up Xylo in his hands before any fight? please tell me.
gobble gobble gobble PACMAN!!!!!! Floyd’s gonna turn him into packman sends him packing, lol
He keeps fighting no name fighter. In his wildest dream he dreams of becoming rich and famous like Floyd. Give it up Juicer you can never be anywhere near the top.
Dude what tha hell is going on with floyd, is bro smoking some of his dads crack or something? Dude’s slapping chicks around now?!?! In three months this guy went from #2 pfp and basicly could do no wrong, to “coward”, followed by, “racist”, now for the grand finally we have “woman beater”… NICE way to secure that legacy bro. What a piece of trash
The dummy calls himself pacman hahahahahaha how stupid you can be? but it all fits perfectly, hahahahahaha. Damn steroid abuser, lol
kevy kev says:
September 9, 2010 at 6:58 pm
F you Jordan, why are you always talking about deepthroating? I am just a fan of Mayweather start talking boxing or get out you retarded moron.
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Because every time you post, it’s always about giving excuses to your “King Kong Floyd” Almost every time you say something, it has to be demeaning to Pac but praises to Floyd. Therefore, deepthroater fits you well.
If you haven’t noticed, you’re one of the few deepthroaters that still post on this site. The other Floyd d!ck suckers went away.
Mark Miguire was trying to get manny to come forth with his steroid aka power pellet abuse but the lil fella wouldnt do it. Well Well Well look what we have here a cheater that lies and loves money more than floyd and Don king put together, hahahahahahaha a philipine congressman hahahahahaha how crazy is dat?
Boxingfan,your chart counts 8 and you are missing 140,147,154
kevy kev says:
September 9, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Most of them cant come with facts, they like to TRY and insult people, they suck at that, lol. Poor excuse of a human being lol useless and worthless that surpass ignorancy, LOL damn dummies.
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Yeah, and all you do is complain about the world, and ridicule people like you’re better than them. B***H please. LOL you’re not any better than anybody. You’re just another Floyd deepthroater.
Why yo guys keep on bragging that Pacquiao is afraid of American black boxer? Where’s Mayweather? He’s a stupid American Racist Idiot BLACK BOXER you had. Where he’s now? He is always running, IN THE RING, AGAINST PACQUIAO & AGAINST THE LAW. Stop your stupid that Black boxer is better than any other race. IDIOT$.
Yeah i counted the weight class theres 8. So where did you get 10 or 11 from?
Most of them cant come with facts, they like to TRY and insult people, they suck at that, lol. Poor excuse of a human being lol useless and worthless that surpass ignorancy, LOL damn dummies.
STOP USING MY NAME! I’M A F@GGOT!
@ Sean
Haha Ok. You sound like a small puppy with your big boy pants on.
kevy kev keep deepthroating floyd
@JORDAN,even if that were true you still wouldn’t be smarter than this 5th grader.Step your game up! I am shutting you down with actual facts! Keep it coming I enjoy debating my equals and all others I teach [you].
its gonna be a sad day for boxing when margo beats pac.
for all you pactards around talking about floyd and his fans needs to remember one thing. Most of us is honest, dont tell lies but it’s one thing I want y’all to know, Manny pack will become the NEW roger clemens, yes I’ve said it. By the way, any human body dont get stronger and faster when age increase, there’s no way. You gotta be a dumb person to think otherwise.
Sean is probably a 12 year old. But it’s better than being a h0rny black guy like kevy kev who watches cartoon pr0n on a daily basis.
Boxing fan,count how many weight classes using your chart.LOL
I say forget mayweather for ignoring us fan folks. As for Pacquiao I hope he does well with his comming fight with Margarito. If Pacquaio looses, oh well, it’s just another day but it’s all worth it because I only pay to view for a good entertainment.
@Sean
Dog Freddie just wanted Sean Mosely out of the ring. He was being courteous. Do you honestly think that it will be a good fight wiht Mosely and Pac?
JASONJ,you would be making a valid point if Manny beat him first.If I climbed a mountain and left a trail for you to follow would you beat my time to the top of the mountain?
Why yo guys keep on bragging that Pacquiao is afraid of American black boxer? Where’s Mayweather? He’s a stupid American Racist Idiot BLACK BOXER you had. Where he’s now? He is always running, IN THE RING, AGAINST PACQUIAO & AGAINST THE LAW. Stop your stupid that Black boxer is better than any other race. IDIOTS.
@Sean
Man where are you getting your sources from with 11 Weight classes.
Lets see here. Pac started out as 106Fly weight. 112 Super Fly weight. 115 batam weight. 118 Super batam weight. 122 feather weight. 126 super feather weight. 130 light weight 135 super light weight.
I see 7 weight classes there homey. I have no idea where your getting 10 weight classes from.
@jasonj,is that the same 38 year old deemed to good for Pac by his trainer Freddie Roach?
I can’t copy and paste your link,I can say for a fact Floyd never said Manny has agreed.I can say with a 100% of certainty Manny has moved up 10 and now 11 divisions.I know your link doesn’t refute those two facts.By the way,why are you posting links to ESPN and it’s the least informative boxing site on the net?
You stole my line.
I doubt Zab would even wanna fight Manny for he wasn’t as popular before. Use your head.
@Sean
Heres your proof from ESPN
“http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5527403″
lewabah what? lol what?lol. this is waaayyy tooo funny. that guy? come on man atleast a zab judah or the kid raheem hhahaahaha this is way tooo funny, man hahahahhaa
Wrong boxingfan,Manny has fought in 7 weight classes but he has jumped a total of ten and now 11 with this Margo fight.Sharpen your mental sword!
Sean you’re a hopeless case. Sorry
Boxing should be like this
put money on the table
but it should be like this if you win you get 70% of it
if you lose you will get 30%
then i bet the boxer will get in the ring and give 120%
of what they got
In the video Floyd said and I quote ” oh yeah he’s gonna take them test” How does that mean Manny has agreed? Floyd never said Manny has agreed.Floyd was saying it in a way,to mean if Pac wants to fight that’s his only option
Yeah like how he whooped Ledwabah’s arse right?
packiao old promoter Mohammed was the guy to keep manny from African American fighters because he’ll get beat by Zab judah or anyother slick fighter. Mohammed first started this not top rank, lol
@kevy kev
I come here for entertainment. I work in the office and checks boxing sites once in a while. It’s not like i sit at home like you and j@ck off while watching cartoon pr0ns. lol
sean says:
September 9, 2010 at 6:06 pm
@Jordan,where did you hear that-from Manny? Floyd never said that in his video that has everyone’s panties in a bunch.
- What exactly are you talking about? Is it about Manny agreeing to all his terms? If so, yes he claimed that he agreed to everything, and there were no arguments about it; mainly because it’s true.
The only way Manny beats Floyd is in a media match.I don’t have to make excuses for the most complete fighter in the game.
- Media match? LOL Floyd beat himself up. Manny didn’t say anything but defend himself from Floyd’s allegations, FACT.
I could understand if Floyd didn’t try to make the fight,but Mayweather did everything in his power except allow Manny to fight dirty to bring this fight to fruition.
- Mayweather did everything in his power to make the fight? LOLLLLL. You’re kidding right? Manny agreed to everything. Floyd could have made the fight before Pac v. Marg contract.
Can you admit Manny was the cause of the fight not happening the first time around and it’s Manny fault this time around?
- No, because it’s not his fault -IMO.
Be for real! Do you think it’s normal for a brawler to move up 10 weight classes,now 11 weight classes and has gotten better after 30 and 46 fights?
- I don’t want to pull scientific facts and be on science mode, but yes he can. It seems like you’re in awe of Pac’s greatness, but i could understand that.
Can anyone give me a real reason why Floyd would be afraid of a man he reached out first to fight?
- Floyd reached him out? LOL Floyd was even AVOIDING Pac’s name. The only way was for Pac to call him out, and he did. Now, look what happened.
Manny has never said his name except for recently and only after he has signed up to fight someone else.
- LOL. wut?
I know you think Floyd is afraid because you would be,but some of us look forward to challenging ourselves.Manny is a walk in the park!!
- I don’t quite understand your transition. are you 12 ?
Thank you.
@Sean
Ok so how long did his vacation take? And did Mayweather say HE WAS READY TO FIGHT HIM…? Ummm NOOOOO cause he was still in retirement.
@Sean
Manny hasn’t moved up 10 weight class. His moved up 7 and is about to go on 8 with his fight with Marg. I do believe you that he might be biting more than he can chew with fighting Marg. but with that said I dont believe Pac is on roids at all. I think his a legitament fighter. A fighter that noone has ever seen before. All the boxing commentaries say the same thing. His boxing style is the only one in this sport. His a righty yet he boxes southpaw. His hardest punch is his left. Thats what makes him so deadly is both his hands are both deadly.
@BOXINGFAN,Look at the post fight interview with Pac and Merchant.When Larry asked Manny 3 times if he’d fight Floyd-Manny said if the fans want to see it,but first he will go on a vacation.Manny was the first to use the vacation excuse except there was no need to vacation after fighting Cotto.Check online buddy,Manny avoided Floyd using a vacation as an excuse
@Boxingfan,I have not made up my mind yet as to whether or not Manny is cheating.But I will say,there is a reason no one has moved up 10 weight classes and has gotten stronger,faster,has more endurance and has gained a ability to take a punch.Because it’s impossible to do! I work out 4 hours a day 5 times a week along with actual bodybuilders and we are still trying to gain 25 pounds of muscle in less than 2 years without cheating.
I know you believe Manny posses magnificence in the ring and he is a freak of nature.But I feel his style of fighting shouldn’t have taken him past 135
@jordan you should love for me to comment lol. that means more chump change for you right? because if anybodies a deep throat sucker it’s you. You’ve been commenting on here since this morning hahahahaha
@Sean
If Manny was such a walk in the park then why hasn’t FLOYD sign the papers? This i dont understand from Mayweather Fans. Pac is ready to fight. He gave in to Mayweathers demands as well, but what does your boy say? Im on VACATION. ARE YOU KIDDING ME WITH THAT BS.
Why dont you look who the real cheater is in boxing. Mayweather uses PEDS called Xylo. Tell me what you think about that.
I dont comment on anybodies personal life even if they is someone that I despise. This goes to show the IGNORANCE and HATRED that lives in useless human beings and they have the nerve to use the word ignorant, WOW.
Everybody knows “kevy kev” is a joke and not reputable. He’s just a hearsay idiot who would risk everything to deepthroat floyd. He’s probably the ultimate Floyd fanboy in this site.
@Jordan,where did you hear that-from Manny? Floyd never said that in his video that has everyone’s panties in a bunch.The only way Manny beats Floyd is in a media match.I don’t have to make excuses for the most complete fighter in the game.I could understand if Floyd didn’t try to make the fight,but Mayweather did everything in his power except allow Manny to fight dirty to bring this fight to fruition.
Can you admit Manny was the cause of the fight not happening the first time around and it’s Manny fault this time around? Be for real! Do you think it’s normal for a brawler to move up 10 weight classes,now 11 weight classes and has gotten better after 30 and 46 fights?
Can anyone give me a real reason why Floyd would be afraid of a man he reached out first to fight? Manny has never said his name except for recently and only after he has signed up to fight someone else.I know you think Floyd is afraid because you would be,but some of us look forward to challenging ourselves.Manny is a walk in the park!!
NEWS FLASH:
Floyd was a suspect in domestic violent case against the mother of his children. The woman alleged that Floyd physically attacked her.
Looks like his frustrations this last few days are taking a heavy toll on Floyd and unfortunately unloaded it on his ex partner.
@Kevy Kev
@sean you are 100% and you said it best most of these pacdummies say floyd is scared” really dont want pack to fight him, everytime the fight gets closer, these dummies says manny dont need to put up with floyd cr@p blah blah blah manny needs to move on blah blah blah, LOL. they is more content in seeing pack sneak thru boxing by fighting unknown and cherry picked opponents in order for pack to get meaningless titles just to say hey he(pack) won 8 titles blah blah blab and won FOTY AND FOTD awards, LOL. everbody knows pac wont defend that wbc title that was GIVEN to him unless it’s against guys that he’s already beaten, WOW I’m amaaaaaaazeddd.
@Sean
So Sean let me ask you this. Do you believe that Pac is taking steroids? Please tell me why Mayweather is accusing him of such a thing with NOOO Proof whatsoever.
Pac is ready to fight with no QUESTION. He even looked passed Floyds addictive use of PEDS Xylo. Pac said he will fight Mayweather if he was on anything.
You tell me who the real man is here.
Your “Pretty Boy Floyd” is the P4P Queen on Women’s division.
The problem with the PAC/Floyd mega fight was that only one fighter was serious about the fight from DAY ONE. The other fighter keeps putting it off by coming out with lots of excuses. The latest one being “If I have the Urge” and it does not matter who cleaned up his mess (ODLH – “deal is very close” contradicted by L Elerbe “There was no negotiation”.)
The ball was always on Floyd’s court but Floyd took the ball away on his vacation.
Floyd is 33 years old (two years older than PAC) and it is a shame if the fight does not happen when both fighters are at their prime.
P4P King! “Pretty boy” Floyd “Money” Mayweather Jr. is the best! no politics here.
Yeah it seems like the only one’s left are the Floyd deepthroaters. Floyd d!ck suckers went away. LOL
There’s still some guys here trying to protect the stupid Mayweather? Where he is now? Running away? He’s a true runner. He’s tough in fighting women. It runs in the blood with the Mayweather family. Beating up women. lol
Sean, you’re making sense out of nonsense. What’s next? are you gonna tell me that this is all part of Floyd’s “master plan” to sell his fights? GTFO.
Then sign the contract and fight if he’s not afraid. Last time i checked, Manny agreed to all his demands. So what’s keeping him so long?
@GOGO, has a woman ever lied on you? Do famous people get lied on for the purpose of money? Don’t read and believe everything written about Floyd.Does this accusation make real everything you felt about Floyd? If so I see why you are so gullible!
@BIG LO, I always laugh when I read Floyd is afraid of another man.The last I heard Floyd was scared to death of Shane and we see how that turned out.Manny better hope Floyd is overconfident or Pac is in deep trouble.I get the feeling those that say Floyd is afraid of Manny are hoping they don’t fight.
Why would Floyd be afraid of a fighter he has every single advantage on? Mayweather isn’t afraid of that Midget!!
@ Sean
It’s already been said that the woman in question took two years to realise she “lied”.
It seems she was paid some hush money.
Manny’s sister was being sought by police for running a gambling ring.The accusations against Floyd are like the allegations against Manny.Just allegations! Lets not forget this is the same woman that lied on May because he left her for another woman.
tbone says:
September 9, 2010 at 3:39 pm
last time i checked guys, its innocent until proven guilty. ya know…the AMERICAN way.
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Yeah, but surely no Mayweather fan can even say this after all the baseless accusations levelled at Pac-man, with no proof.
So is Pac guilty until proven innocent, but with Floyd it’s reversed? At least admit to your double standards
@ This is god
You’re damn right, LOL!
if you think boxing politics is bad right now, just wait until margo beats pac, then its gonna get real ugly.
So Pacquiao in the end will have to face what’s left of the boxing world and it’s fans. Will he fight for the glory of boxing and the richest it will bring if and when Floyd finally grows a pair. Boxing fans, money and glory or the standards of humanity? Which one of the two is bigger and which one will define him as a person and not as a boxer. He knows where he’s coming from and at this juncture in his life and as a public servant, will he make the right decision to where he’s going.
I’m a fan of boxing but these are it’s last hurrah for me.
Too much pressure on Floyd since coming back from his retirement. Buckling to the thought that he must fight Pacquiao once he gets back in the squared circle. Fighting Marquez just to pay the IRS would have been good enough but he wanted to sell to the boxing world that he will face Pacquiao. Those times have come and gone twice with much excuses from the Mayweather camp. A boxing icon who’s sworn duty after 40 fights will help clean up the sport he loves. At this point in time, he has done nothing but leave a black eye and a disgraceful stain and a bad taste in peoples mouth. The messiah of boxing has turned out to be a classless bum. In the end as I quote Cherokee.Mankiller:
“A great man once quoted “There is nothing more intimidating than a man than can kick your a** with nothing but his mind”. Mayweather by his own actions has proven that Pacquiao, without ever setting foot in the ring, is far superior to Mayweather as A MAN, and would best him in the fight.”
KARMA
More like innocent when bribed, and guilty if not bribed.
He battered the same girl on 2003. On 2005, the girl laughingly admitted that she was on ecstacy, and she was just jealous. What kind of excuse was that? Sounds like another lie to me. Did it took her 2 years to realize Floyd was not at fault, or 2 years of bribe? Clearly, the victim was bribed.
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last time i checked guys, its innocent until proven guilty. ya know…the AMERICAN way.
Floyd is scared? He just fough two of the highest ranked fighters p4p! What are clowny and cheatos rankings?
I just read the article on espn..It said Mayweather is wanted for questioning! It didnt say hes guilty of…..
Manny didn’t agree the test because Floyd battered Pac’s dog like how he battered his ex gf.
I guess that guy should have agreed the 1st time then!
Boxing Fan 101
@junior jay
No man were fond of people that does all the SMACK talking, making up lies to try and ruin someones career and have it back fire on them.
Im sure Pac has some skeletons in his closet, but do you see him Smack talking about Floyd? Or making up lies about Floyd to try and ruin his career?
Its how you handle your self as a man that people will see you for. All Mayweather has done lately is trash talk and now his paying for it big time. Karma is a B#$%^&
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This.
@junior jay
No man were fond of people that does all the SMACK talking, making up lies to try and ruin someones career and have it back fire on them.
Im sure Pac has some skeletons in his closet, but do you see him Smack talking about Floyd? Or making up lies about Floyd to try and ruin his career?
Its how you handle your self as a man that people will see you for. All Mayweather has done lately is trash talk and now his paying for it big time. Karma is a B#$%^&
Don’t believe it. He’d never be in a fight that he wasn’t getting paid for.
Ya it is terrible if he did this to his baby’s mama. however in 2003 she lied about him doing the same thing becaus, and this is the part I love, she was mad because he was with some other women. Even though they were not together, she was jealous and tried to hit him where it hurts. I am not defending him if he did it, lets just find out. To me it is wrong to hit a women like michelle obama, or your wife. The same cannot be said for some one like New york, or any other loud A** B**** whos gonna get in your personal space and not stop for anything. I never hit my ex wife, I swear on everything I love and all that is close to me. Yet, every heated argument she put her hands on me I even have pictures of the damage she did, lol. Now I ask you, after fiver years of the same activity, would anyone fault me if I had hit her. My conscience would have killed me thats why I never did. Not everyones the same though, if you put ur self in a mans situation so men are going to treat you accordingly. Again if he did it I am not defending him lets just find out all details. LOL I love how people say ” abusers, drug drug users, as if the mayweathers are the only imperfect people on the planet. lets not forget MR. Wonderful over in the phillipines has had some controversies too but people ar always easier on the ones they are fond of.
I’m pretty sure Floyd fans will see Floyd’s “ex-girlfriend battery” as part of his “master plan” to promote his fight. It’s just business, right? LOL. seriously, open your eyes and stop making sense out of nonsense. Thanks!
Wow. Go to ESPN.com under boxing. Las Vegas cops are looking for Mayweather JR. for assaulting his ex-girlfriend.
Who supports these people? Unbelievable.
Mayweathers= women beater, liars, druggys.
They should be kicked off the sport of boxing.
just heard mayweather is being sought by police for possible domestic violence. i love floyd. but if this goes through, i cant get myself to root for him. we ll have to see. i hope this is all rumors.
@Tintoy,
That’s your opinion (and mine as well, let me add, although I think Floyd wins if the two meet up). However, others may rightfully feel like Floyd never LOST the pound for pound status, so he is still entitled to it until somebody takes it from him.
In actuality, nobody ever defeated Floyd for this ranking. He retired (and “vacated” it as a result). But, if others feel like re assumed it upon his return, then so be it.
I think we can all probably agree that if these two fight, that will decide who is truly #
just in the news: las vegas police are looking for floyd for a possible domestic battery. stay tuned because the guy is really sick in the head. the mayweathers are woman beaters.
EVERYBODY READS THE ARTICLE WRITTEN BY JORDAN SARGENT SEEMS SATISFIED. IN MY OWN OPINION, HE IS BIASED. HE DIDN’T TELL THE TRUTH OF IT. TO ALL OF YOU BOXING ENTHUSIASTS. THE OFFICIAL AND REGOGNIZED P4P KING IN THE WORLD TODAY IS MANNY PACQUIAO, NOT FLOYD MAYWEATHER. A TRUE WRITER MUST SOMEHOW TELL THE TRUTH NO MATTER WHO GETS HURT. HE LIES AND NEVER TELLS WHO IS THE REAL P4P KING. I REPEAT IT IS NOT MAYWEATHER BUT MANNY PACQUIAO.
@Jesus,
If you truly want to have responsible discourse with me, then I’ll oblige. However, if you start taking one or two lines in a sentence out of context and try to “twist” them to fit your agenda, then that’s where our conversation ends (and, I will use fairly big words in my response because I have them in my vocabulary – it’s not to impress you or ANYBODY else).
About my post below, you nailed it!
“I think what you are trying to say is that Floyd’s choices of words were bad and he’s not necessarily a racist but we don’t know that for sure”
This is EXACTLY what I was saying (and it’s what Kray was saying on the other article). How CAN we know for sure if he doesn’t continue with other remarks in the same vein or if he doesn’t openly admit it? Our best guess is based on pure conjecture – IMO.
“So my question to you is that it’s now okay to say those stupid moronic remarks because they are not racist in your mind?”
This is where you MAY be taking it out of context. I never once said (nor did I mean to insinuate) that it’s OK to makes any “stupid, moronic” remarks because they are not racist. This is never OK to do. You will NEVER and have NEVER heard me condone any remarks that are “stupid”, “moronic”, or “racist” (although, what is “stupid”, “moronic”, or “racist” is certainly in the eye of the beholder). The ONLY thing that I have said that can be remotely looked at as condoning what Floyd has said is that if he is mentally unstable, then he needs help and shouldn’t be ridiculed and persecuted (and if he mentally unstable, then you should agree that his actions/ behaviors are more “retarded” than “racist”).
If anybody ever says something that I feel is stupid or moronic, then I will either call them on it or I will ignore it – as you said, people make these comments everyday, so I certainly can’t spend all of my time nagging at every idiotic remark that is spewed. However, I will call Floyd on it, and I have called him on it.
@Jesusjones;by definition what Floyd did was stereotyping and prejudice.The statements were not racist at all,Floyd was being a bigot maybe.Check a dictionary
They should stop PPV and make all boxing free to view. People only really know the big names nowadays and that is what is really killing the sport.
Big Lo
Second, correct about his remarks. They weren’t necessarily racist. Certainly stupid, possibly moronic, absolutley uncalled for, but probably not “racist”.
They were racist remarks no matter how you twist it or how you make sense out of it. I think what you are trying to say is that Floyd’s choices of words were bad and he’s not necessarily a racist but we don’t know that for sure. That’s his prerogative and as a public figure, he must keep that to himself if he want’s to stay in the game. Hence the so called sincere apology. That’s just the rules when you reach a certain level of prestige in our culture and in our modern society.
So my question to you is that it’s now okay to say those stupid moronic remarks because they are not racist in your mind? You know people say stupid and moronic things everyday?
Not here to debate, just trying to understand your words or your message.
I hit my wife by accident by I didn’t know that my protein pills were steroids.
@Jordan,
Good point. He could have paid her.
@Ryan,
Yes, he is a suspect and needs to make himself available for the questioning.
His kids mother was being a stupid cow so mayweather slapped her. Whats wrong with that?
It’s funny that Josie Harris claimed that she was on “ecstacy” and wasn’t serious on 2005. When the crime happend on 2003. So it took her 2 years to realize that she was on ecstacy? Or was it the Moolah ecstacy that made her remember?
@Big Lo
Don’t worry, the article just says he is a suspect.
The woman was truly injured however, and went to the hospital.
Until further notice, it is what it is, and Floyd is a suspect in a domestic violence charge.
…ryan
@ Big Lo
Or Floyd paid her to shut her trap.
@Ryan,
That’s an interesting article.
What else it says is that this same lady accused Floyd of domestic violence in 2003 but dropped charges in 2005 because she admitted to lying because she was mad that Floyd left her for another woman.
Many on this site won’t follow the link but will take your heading and run with it (and, they’ll accuse and convict Floyd without knowing the whole story).
But, thanks for the link.
I meant pursue the fight with Floyd
Manny stated recently he was glad not to purse the fight with Floyd.Manny keeps saying he doesn’t need Floyd.There is not one fighter of Mayweather’s caliber on Manny’s resume.Floyd has multiple Pac’s on his resume.Manny is frightened of Mayweather.I bet he shakes in his shoes just thinking of stepping in the ring with the best MONEY MAY
Manny will never fight Floyd clean,if he does it will only prove once he’s beaten to a pulp that all his current success is questionable.Stay far away from Floyd….
REAL NEWS: “Floyd Mayweather Suspect in Domestic Violence”
tmz.com/2010/09/09/floyd-mayweather-arrested-las-vegas-disturbance-cops-police-domestic-violence/
…ryan
News: Floyd needs tune-up fight before facing Manny Pacquiao.
What?
When is the tune-up fight?
2011?
After the tune-up fight, Floyd decides to go on vacation again until 2012!
When will he have the balls to really fight Pacquiao?
Roach is right, we might as well forget about this fight.
John McCain had it right, but his push for boxing reform has not gone over well with the liberal congress. Perhaps this Fall, if the balance shifts back to conservative, we can all push McCain to get back on the trail, especially in light of the stalemates we’ve seen lately.
McCain was instrumental in passing the Professional Boxing Safety act of 1996 (which he first proposed in 1992), and the Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act of 2000 (which he introduced in 1992). He also pushed Obama to grant pardon to the late, great Jack Johnson for his being convicted of illegally transporting white women across state lines.
JOHN MCCAIN (2004): “I’ll push for boxing reform until it passes. The thing that gets me so involved is the exploitation of the boxers who — with rare exception, come from the lowest rung on our economic ladder — are least educated and are left many times after some years in the sport mentally impaired and financially broke.”
JOHN MCCAIN (2004): “King and Arum don’t want boxing reform, but we’re going to win because there are going to be more scandals”
Joe Barton of TX blocked the bill in 2004.
Harry Reid of NV blocked the bill in 2008.
McCain tried again last year, failed.
…ryan
“Fans wanted Ali v Frazier so they got it. The fans wanted Tyson v Spinks and guess what, they got it!”
yeah…they just “got it”. except they had to wait.
spinks actually avoided tyson for nearly 2 years…& even avoided tony tucker who was his mandatory. eventually..after having been out of the ring for over a year…someone came up to him with an offer that was worth just hauling his old a** into a ring for a payday…even if he was just gonna fall over in 90 seconds. so spinks got in the ring…fell over in 90 seconds…& took his huge “goodbye” payday.
& ali/foreman was nearly impossible to make. it took don king to trick both of them into signing contracts that neither of them thought could be enforced to make that fight. & then when forman started chasing a rematch…& the boxing public & publications clambered aboard that train…it never happened. ali would NEVER rematch foreman no matter what money was involved or how many people wanted to see it. & believe me…people wanted to see it.
so your examples are bull****.
if may/pac or haye/wlad happen next year…thats about the same amount of time it took to make tyson/spinks. so what would be the problem?
no “superfight” has ever been easy to make. from johnson/jeffries to tyson/lewis (both happening around 10 years after fans started calling for them).
boxing hasn’t changed. you’re just new to boxing.
Do not sell the Briggs vs Klitschko fight short. These are 2 guys with a lot of k.o. power getin in the ring on oct. 16th. And Briggs has an actual shot at defeating Klitschko.
To “PacMonster” AKA MP;
Don’t pay attention to all the idiots on this site. Athletes like Sammy Sosa (Slammin’ Sammy), Roger Clemens (the Rocket) and I the (Big Mac) were only accused of using steroids because of our cool nicknames.
Note that when I played in Oakland I was also call one half the the “bash brothers” along with the traitor and ex-bash bros Jose Canseco.
the public dimissed Floyd’s rant like it was nothing, i guess he’s not seen as a role model just “another Bum”
If you are looking at a highly-paid athlete for your role model, here’s an all-time best role model for ya: Dennis Rodman. LOL.
Also if there r any posts which r offensive under my name they r not from me thanks
The response to my article has been great thanks everyone
@Webster
First, he is a role model simply because of his status in the public eye (see my first post in this thread for more detail about how I percieve this).
Second, correct about his remarks. They weren’t necessarily racist. Certainly stupid, possibly moronic, absolutley uncalled for, but probably not “racist”.
Third, that fact that Pac can speak two languages (let alone 3) says something about his level of intelligence on it’s own (many, probably most, Americans only speak one language – but I don’t have these stats readily available)
This is to Manny “Pac Monster”Pacquiao;
Don’t Pay attention to all those full who judge you. Look at me, they are all over me and I am keeping my head high. Like you I have never used steroids or tested possitve. They have nothing on me and I am going to court sure of my victory. My fans are behind me 100%. I will sue all of them once I am acquitted in a court of law.
Best Regard;
Roger “The Rocket” Clemmens
BNB said:
“And to those who say that English is not his language..Please note that Manny speaks decent English and understands it better”
@BNB,
This was probably directed at me because I brought it up. But, to be clear, I said “English is not his FIRST language”, which suggests that he MAY not speak it as fluently as his home language. But, I agree that Pac speaks English well enough (and understands it even better, which is typical for second and third languages). But, I also think that Pac has “stuttered” quite noticeably in interviews (not just around the question of steroid testing).
“let’s not talk about the past…”
Barry Bonds; ” I have never tested possitive”
Marion Jones…”I am sorry about lying …Please forgive me…l did my time in prison…”
Manny Ramirez…” My doctor Made a mistake”
Are we really considering Floyd an American role model???? Really, imagine our President Obama talks ghetto-ish like the way Floyd speaks. Pretty SAD if I may say so! America might have have not considered Floyd’s rant RACIST but for sure it was full of STUPIDITY such as:
1) Sushi didn’t originate from the Philippines
2) Manny is short for Emmanuel AND obviously not a FAKE name
3) Manny speaks 3 different language compare to Floyd where the majority of America couldn’t understand the way he speaks,
might wanna take speech lesson from BRYANT GUMBLE
And let me add that the issue is not steroids (which can be found in urine), as I understand it, but the issue is hGH (which is not detected in urine).
“Me don’t speak in English”…I don’t understand what steroids means….
What is steroids…lol…
Arod; Steroids is = Boli….lol..
Manny…oh…ohh…oh…I have never heard of the word “steroids”…what is this…
The boxers rule thier own sport instead of the sport ruling them,promoters are so self serving that demands have become politacaly motivated for self preservation of pride and money.It seems the commissions are merely puppets for the promoters.
@Rabid
I don’t care if anyone cares. But again, you missed my point. That was just an example. Typical hearsay idiot.
@Jordan: Ask Floyd in Tagalog? What makes you think anybody outside of your country cares about your funny-sounding language? LOL.
Manny has been asked about the Steroid issue over and over. He answered before that he doesn’t even know what it is. It’s the same repetitive question that everyone is tired of.
I know Pac is not a bright person outside boxing. Every Filipino knows that. The point i’m trying to make is when these Floyd nuthuggers start accusing him of steroids because he “stuttered” is plain stupid. Obviously, he can’t express himself well in english let alone tagalog, but that doesn’t mean he’s guilty.
*Seriously, he maybe a good boxer, but a bright person he obviously is not. He cannot articulate.
I don’t know..how can Manny be caught off guard when this steroids issues has been there for long time now. And his still can not just say that he never used steroids.
Manny is not that stupid. And to those who say that English is not his language..Please note that Manny speaks decent English and understands it better.
Do you all remember how Sammy Sosa stuttered too when ask if you used steroids by congress. All of the sudden Sosa forgot how to speak English and needed a translator….lol..
Wake up Manny’s fans….the man had used steroids.
@Jordan: Who cares if Pac speaks his own language? I mean, dogs can bark too. LOL. The problem with Pacquiao is not just speaking. I watched a few interviews where he was asked simple and easy questions in Tagalog, the dude cannot answer without being led by the interviewer. Seriously, he maybe a good boxer, but he a bright person he obviously is not. He cannot articulate.
Most of these Floyd nuthuggers are just hearsay idiots.
Manny is not scared of “needles” That’s what Arum thought he is. All Manny said is he don’t like his blood taken before the fight. Get your facts straight.
And all this idiots claiming he’s on steroids because he “stuttered” LMAO. Please use your brain. If i ask Floyd about his pink pu$$y in tagalog and ask him to respond in tagalog, do you think he can respond properly? does that mean he has a pu$$y? and pink? haha
Floyd is a coward and Manny is not? Who’s afraid of needles? LOL.
If i may also add, Manny knows how to speak Bisaya (dialect) Tagalog, and English.
The vid said it all. Can’t hide his guilt. Pac stuttered, didn’t know what to say. Guess the world knows now why he won’t submit to the random blood test up to fight night.
It’s funny how low people can get just to defend Floyd’s b@lls lol. Making fun of a man because he stuttered lol. Manny is trying to translate his response to english in his head. All these people are jumping on his b@lls because he “stuttered” LMFAO. No matter how hard you try to discredit Pac’s name and throw as much smoke bombs to defend Floyd’s name, Floyd will always be a coward.
@Elgato,
In case you weren’t aware, English isn’t Pac’s first language. So, he ALWAYS “stutters” (but, I haven’t seen the video that you are referencing).
On another note, I believe Pac when he says that he doesn’t even know what a steroid is – not to speculate, but IF there is funny business in Pac’s camp, it’s probably the result of Ariza and Roach, and is done WITHOUT Pac’s knowledge (for example, they could tell him to take his “vitamins” – at one point during Mosley’s interrogation, he tried to say that Conte told him that the stuff he was taking was “seaweed oil” or something like that).
Because the current “top” boxers are spoiled overhyped, and over paid little b1tch3s…
Bad and greedy promoters are at fault too.
Manny the cat ate your mouth.
Manny Pacquiao Stuttering When Asked If He Uses Steroids.
Why the stuttering…lol…
The boxing commissions are dictated by money power too,apparently,and the fan base is held slave to paying for fights they want to see via the PPV circuit.We do get a few quality fights still to keep the sport alive,just barely enough.The UFC is even worse.
As long as you have organizations of some sort, politics will always be there. There’s always a power struggle or a variety of hidden agenda or innuendos. Boxing promoters are a big significant of that vicious circle obviously. What the public should clamor for is a tournament of some sort throughout a year or so. Any well thought of tournament for example ” super six ” to make fighters scheduled to fight by winning or losing. The financial percentage split will also be planned out. That way fighters fight, that’s it no excuses or no backing out!
Manny Pacquiao Stuttering When Asked If He Uses Steroids
Can’t post video link here. Just Google the above frase and you will all see the video.
Thanks BIG LO
Manny Pacquiao was out of words when asked about steroids (yesterday).
The hell with boxing politics! The man is scared. The man don’t wanna lose! The man don’t wanna get beat. If the man ain’t scared the fans get to see what they want, no problem. Politics is politics. Scared is scared. Period.
@Johann & Sean,
I’m not so sure if it’s censorship or if it’s corrupt filters or computer glitches. You certainly could be right, but what I now do (because of this problem) is copy everything that I post and re-submit it if it’s not taken the first time.
Try that and see if it works (another idea is to break up long posts into two or three different posts and submit).
@Johann, ESPN is the worse,when it comes to censorship issues.
This site is taking down any post that is positive about Floyd,while allowing his name to be mentioned in post,that are negative.The sport is on the decline because of in house fights being made by Arum.
The problem is not Boxing Politics in general, this always exists even at the beginning.
The real problem is just one guys big ego, he thinks he is better than everyone.
Just one guy, you know who he is.
My post too, was taken down.Its seem that free opinion to express is no longer tolerated in this website.
@ the author,
Good article and it’s very true. However, I must say, that the fans also have some responsibility here. Yes, boxers are public figures and make their living because the fans make it possible (indirectly).
But, boxers don’t start out fighting for the fans (and they typically don’t start out getting paid to fight). They typically start out fighting for themselves and/ or for their families (with the expectation that they can get paid to do what they love, but without expectation of making it big time – very few boxers make it big time).
Anyway, the door does swing both ways. Fans pay their money of their own volition (it’s a case of “caveat emptor”), and boxers can make nice livings because of the fans (so some consideration is certainly advised, but not required).
Also, let me remind you (and other bloggers), that we haven’t always been fortunate to get what we want when we want it (Lewis-Bowe, RJ-Bhop 2, DLH-Tito 2, DLH-Quartey 2, DLH-Whitaker 2, JMM-Morales, etc).
Politics sucks, but it comes with the territory…
boxing needs a huge shake up and needs to look to the UFC to learn spome lessons.
the best way forward is to work out a way to unify all belts or just simply abandoning all the paper sacntioning bodies. fans want one champ per weight. not 4/5 paper champs plus diamond/ interim/ super champions etc.
a new organisation or franchise should be formed like the UFC in MMA or the IPL in cricket etc. this franchise should then use their own ratings – maybe using the ring magazine, to create one champion. if it is endorsed by all the living legends shall as ali, holmes, leanard, duran, hearns, lewis, tyson and all current greats shall as pacman, mayweather etc then anyone who doesnt hand back their paper belt to fight for the unified championship will be hugely discredited.
this sanctioning bodies cannot be allowed to fragment boxing any further. one organisation, one set of rules, one champion per weight, one rating scheme etc etc is the only way forward.
money would be the main issue but this organisation could have a worldwide PPV per month. it would sell millions.
compared to all other sports the administartion of boxing is unbelievabley poor.
Sure this might not make the biggest fights ie pacman vs mayweather and haye vs klitchsko happen but the chances greatly increase and any fighters post career lagacy can be accuratly measured
I meant remark
The purpose of writing an article and allowing readers to post their thoughts is to see what their opinions are.Why all the censoring? I notice the Mayweather remake was allowed….
Finally a decent article,Thank you Jordan. i too had a post taken down today on that shambles of a acticle about marg smashing pac. wonder how long this one will last.
Nice writing. The lack of rules and unity in professional boxing is first and foremost to all these problems. There is no one governing/sanctioning body in boxing that is why behaviors like Mayweather’s racist rant will go uncheck, the same with who is fighting whom ( Arum keeping the fight in his own stable and ODLH is equally the same ) Fighter duking fighters, etc. etc. There is so much money and so much politics in boxing that to get them together and agree on cleaning up the sports is far from reality. The fans, the promoters, the business, etc. etc. has to come together and fix this mess up. There is too much money to lose for those guys, that is why this will never happen. We are stucked.
mine got taken down to just cos i said it makes a change to read an arcticle that isn’t slagging off other boxers
They really are censoring posts,they just took down my post and the guy I was writing about.What has America become,when freedom of speech isn’t protected?