A Critique on Peterson, Rios, Gamboa and Salido

By Ryan Dunn: Last night’s Boxing After Dark on HBO was nothing if not unusual. Two betting favorites stepped into the ring and ultimately showed more weaknesses than strengths, throwing yet more controversy into the lower weights and the quest for dominance. The fights themselves were plagued with ebbing tides, peculiar fouls and equal turns of heroism and disappointment.

Anthony Peterson (younger brother to Lamont, the two youngest of twelve, and two of boxing’s fringe hopefuls) took on a much more rugged Brandon Rios, while emerging Cuban phenomenon Yuriokis Gamboa went toe-to-toe with the stalwart Orlando Salido.

First up was Peterson and Rios. Before the fight, we got a look at the rough upbringing he underwent, including twelve children sleeping in their station wagon. It never hurts to give newcomers a reason to cheer for a guy. Unfortunately, they forgot to showcase Rios and his rough-and-tumble upbringing, because that became the story of the night.

Like his brother Lamont, Anthony Peterson cannot resist the temptation of going toe-to-toe when an opponent bum-rushes. The first round was a boxing clinic ran by Anthony, which yielded nothing more than the points for the round. He forgot to punctuate those jabs with power, and it wasn’t long before Rios started walking through them. By the third round, the fight belonged to Rios, and as they knocked one another silly, with nary a jab in sight, Peterson was quickly falling behind.

In round five, the avalanche of power shots from Rios proved too much for the lighter-fisted, weaker-chinned Peterson to handle, and he went down. The onslaught didn’t end there, and in round six, Peterson’s fatigue (in my opinion) turned into a series of bizarre low-blow uppercuts. On replaying the fight, I don’t believe his intention was malicious. I feel Peterson was trying to work to the body, but buzzed and gassed from the previous round that he couldn’t hit his mark.

Two point deductions came and went, and in round seven, after another pair of low blows, the referee had seen enough. He waved off the fight, disqualifying Peterson in a fight he was destined to lose regardless. All three judges had the fight scored 68-62 in favor of the rugged Brandon Rios.

I found the fight to be exciting and confusing. I don’t know where the discipline went in Peterson, who left his jab at the wayside early on. I understand he was losing the battle of footwork, and finding it hard to keep his distance, so in essence it goes to show that you have to “mean it” when you throw your jab, especially when you’re in against a slugger with heavy hands. I look forward to what the future holds for Rios. A fight with Victor Ortiz has the makings of a potential fight of the year, something we always love to witness.

The second match-up, Yuriorkis Gamboa vs. Orlando Salido, was another puzzler. Many wondered how Gamboa would do when pitted against a higher caliber of fighter. First round KO’s are fun to watch, but when the opposition are fighters like Al Seeger, Walter Estrada or Johnnie Edwards, they don’t mean that much to the elite breed. Gamboa floored the Tanzanian Tiger journeyman Rogers Mtagwa, but he was coming most recently off of a 12 round dominance over Jonathan Barros.

What could he do against Salido, who went pro at fifteen and racked up ten losses before he could tell a check-hook from an uppercut? We were about to find out. And here’s what I discovered…

Gamboa is a phenomenally fast-handed puncher with knockout power. Gamboa also has no defense, and has not learned to straddle the technical boxing with brutish slugging just yet. He is a work in progress, someone who would much benefit from a world-class trainer’s tutelage. I would not be surprised to see him taken in by someone like Freddie Roach as he moves up to take on the bigger names. It will likely happen after he suffers his first loss, which seems almost inevitable at this juncture.

Salido, while a terrific fighter, is not the type of fighter you would expect to give Gamboa such fits from doing basically nothing other than firing back a slow counter after getting hit hard himself. Taking nothing away from Orlando, who fought his fight as good as he could fight it, but I am fairly confident in saying that a well-tuned, better-trained Gamboa would have made short work out of a man of Orlando’s caliber.

Orlando came into the fight heavy, and thus could not compete for the IBF title. Turns out it didn’t matter, as Gamboa won the decision. But it took getting knocked down for the fifth time (yes, it was a knockdown, not a slip, I’ve replayed it enough times to see that it was Salido’s hook that disoriented Gamboa during his own counter, not a wet floor) in order for Gamboa to win the match.

The victory for Gamboa was marred, however, by a very flagrant foul in round twelve. Having hurt Salido in the previous round, Gamboa was on an all-out blitz to put his man away. And he nearly did. Orlando went down in round twelve, and just looked plain exhausted (one thing I won’t take away from Gamboa is his terrific conditioning).

The round continued, and so did Yuriorkis’s ambition. Down Salido went again, but before the eight count ever started, Gamboa threw a very late punch to the back of Salido’s head while he was already down. The blow was glancing, and Orlando did his best acting job, but the fact remains that Salido could have been seriously hurt, and the Cuban champion crossed the line into the unacceptable.

That lack of discipline shows yet another example of his rough-around-the-edges status right now. He shows so much promise, can be as exciting as a Manny Pacquiao, but not right now. He leaves his hands at his hips after throwing combinations like he’s some sort of king. He is very hittable to anyone with a smidgen of speed and accuracy. He is hyper to a fault, and needs to settle into his punches, set up his power game, and learn a thing or two about defense.

I think all of this is possible, and likely probable, and so I still look forward to seeing the 28 year old Gamboa in against guys like Juan Manuel Lopez and Chris John before moving up to find guys like Juan Manuel Marquez, and yes even Brandon Rios. He is not there yet, but I still expect big things for Gamboa. Saturday’s fight should be a sobering realization once he looks at the film and sees where he could have improved.

For the rest of us, we’re hoping that the passing of the P4P torch issues a new renaissance in the sport, because as of right now, we are spending more time yearning for yesteryear than we are dreaming of tomorrow.

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25 Responses to “A Critique on Peterson, Rios, Gamboa and Salido”

  • matt111 says:

    Gamboa’s style is to drop his hands – very remiscent of Roy Jones who would quite happily sit within range, head up high banking that his punch would get to his opponent before they landed. Punching from the waist does leave you wide open but these fighters rely almost entirely on their reaction speed for defence. Another seldom appreciated benefit of dropping your hands which is very very rarely picked up by commentators is that it allows a fighter to bring his punches in behind their opponents guard more easily. If you have a high guard you have blind spots – if you have a low guard you don’t and you can exploit these blind spots. It takes a huge amount of skill and speed and most importantly impeccable footwork – Roy Jones, Ali, Prince Naseem could all do this with huge success. Only time will tell if Gamboa can make it as far as these greats.

  • Ryan Dunn says:

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    …ryan

  • Anonymous says:

    Peterson needs to concentrate on boxing,defense,and avoiding opponents power shots,and not trade with power punchers.

  • MOO says:

    Gamboa is just 1 in a long line of up and commers to dissapoint this year. Bradley and Alexander both looked worse than expected in thier last fights, Angulo lost to Cintron. If Gamboa thinks hes guna fight Juanma looking like that he will get KO’ed . At least Juanma still seams to be the real deal, we’ll know for sure after the marquez fight.

  • Anonymous says:

    Good fight always a fan of gamboa ,never saw salido fight before but , he’s great fighter will be looking to see him fight again

  • mike says:

    jasz,

    I would say because Gamboa is dropping his hands to his waist-and that was where he starting his punches from. That makes it very hard to get power behind the punches. Also Gamboa was fighting someone over 10lbs above the weight limit, who was fighting very defensively. Salido’s ambitions seemed to be survival and to fight another day.

  • jasz says:

    I watched the Gamboa and Salido fight and I was impressed in the beginning with Gamboa but he lost me in the later hounds. With all the punches and flurries he gave out against Salido I was amazed he didn’t knockout Salido in the earlier rounds. IMHO, Gamboa may have fast hands but I suspect if there’s power behind those volume punches of his. But, I give credit to Gamboa for the win, Salido just doesn’t have any fight plan to defeat Gamboa’s style.

    Anyway, I would love to see Gamboa and Juan Ma fight. Then we will know who is the better fighter.

  • mike says:

    Rios fought like a man who knew this was a huge opportunity to make his mark as a challenger. Rios knew he was up against a opponent who would dictate the fight if he let him. He went for a high risk street-brawl and dismantled a stunned Petersen.

    The disqualification probably saved Peterson from more punishment and a KO. So for Petersen he gets to fight another day and maybe comeback and fight Rios for a title.
    The low blows weren’t dirty attempts, more poor aim from a fighter with a swelling eye and impaired judgment.

    But very impressed with Rios, deserves a shot and comes across has a good honest fighter who gets on with the fighting. All round good guy. Hope he wins a title.

  • Big Al says:

    Let me clarify. My jabs weren’t at Rios, even though I was rooting for Peterson. I’m not defending his actions at all. I’m from Oxnard, and there’s a huge boxing community there, so I just thought that it was interesting that boxers who have relocated to Oxnard (victor ortiz and sergio martinez) show more class than the other “Oxnard” guys in Rios’ corner (margarito is definitely a cheater and vargas, who has made a name for himself as a bully/thug) There’s always been 2 competing groups of boxers in Oxnard, the Vargas/La Colonia gang who like to call everybody out and everyone else. That’s why Rios called out Ortiz. If they ever fight, I’ll definitely be going for Ortiz.

  • JOKER says:

    @Big Al YET PETERSON STARTED USING DIRTY TACTS WITH ALL THOSE INTENTIONAL LOW BLOWS YET U CALLED BRANDON CHEATER HAHAH SO PETERSON CLINCHING AND LOW BLOWS WHERE NOT CHEATING OR DIRTY TACTS

  • JOKER says:

    I HAD HEARD OF BRANDON RIOS BUT NEVER SEEN NONE OF HIS FIGHTS UNTIL LAST NIGHT HE SHOWED TO HAVE CHIN AND HEART BUT NEEDS TO WORK ON PROTECTING HIMSELF BUT IT WAS EXCITING FIGHT UNTIL PETERSON GOT DROPPED AND STARTED LANDING LOW BLOWS AND IT WASNT ACCIDENTAL ON THE REPLAY ON 6RD IT SHOWED WHERE PETERSON LANDED THREE LOWBLOWS AT ONE TIME THATS NOT ACCIDENT HE LANDED TO MANY LOWBLOWS FOR IT TO BE ACCIDENTAL PETERSON JUST GOT DROPPED AND DIDNT WANT TO LOSE SO HE TRIED TO CHEAT HE LOST MORE FANS THAT WAY BECAUSE HE LOST ANYWAY AT LEAST IF HE WOULD MAN UP AND JUST LOST MORE PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO SEE HIM AGAIN BUT KNOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT HIM LIKE A DIRTY FIGHTER

  • arroyo grande bob says:

    who would have thought that two boxers from Garden City Kansas of mexican ancestry would end up in Oxnard CA. Brandon, you’ve made a splash in the lightweight division. Follow it up. Dont worry about Victor Ortiz. Maybe down the road, but not now. Your promotor wouldnt consider it anyway. Maybe one of the “insightful” questions Max might have posed to Gamboa should have been, why did you hit an opponent in the back of the head when he was down that you were clearly beating. Perhaps when Max speaks his name and gushes with delight has something to do with it.

  • Ryan Dunn says:

    @big douche

    You’re quite simply out of your mind.

    …ryan

  • apatz says:

    so jml is scared of gamboa?u nutts after seeing gamboas last bout any featherweight can face this fool he is as beateable as “the vennus of milo” sorry but the future of boxing as many call him(gamboa)happens to be a dam joke!!!!!!!!

  • Arthur says:

    Good article

  • Big Lo says:

    @.com,

    I don’t know if you have heard/ read the post fight press conference interviews yet, but Juanma and Gamboa BOTH said that they are ready for that fight. Juanma even went as far as saying that they saw some things in the Gamboa-Salido fight that they can exploit and that he is sure that he would be the best man that night.

    They have both made it clear that they are ready to put that fight together, so it will be up to Arum a this point (I think we all know that Arum likes to milk his cash cows – understandbly, from a business perspective – so he’s probably waiting until he can maximize his investment dollars by having them clear out much of the division to gain bigger followings).

    Assuming they both keep winning, I’m sure we’ll see this fight next year (maybe Arum wasn’t ready after seeing Juanma struggle against Rogers and seeing Gamboa blow Rogers out – so maybe he’s waiting until they are both on impressive winning streaks).

  • Big Lo says:

    @.com,

    First, Juanma has to get past Marquez.

    Second, Top Rank will put that fight together when Arum is ready (it won’t be up to the fighters, but the promoter).

    Third, Juanma vs Gamboa will probably be more of a boxer vs slugger, than a technical boxing match (although Gamboa does seem to be settling down a bit more and isn’t as reckless as he once was – but still doesn’t exhibit the technique of a “technical boxer” yet).

  • Big Lo says:

    I was also rooting for Peterson (from my neck of the woods), but since I didn’t know Rios too well and since he was also undefeated, I didn’t want to make a prediction on that fight. But, it became clear in the first round that Peterson was going to be in for a long night (I noticed that he was being pushed back to the ropes about half-way through the round – the first thing that came to my mind was the Pirog-Jacobs fight).

    It’s interesting that after the fight Peterson said “only God and I know why I didn’t throw the jab” and “I don’t want to make excuses”. I wonder what the real story is behind his jab (that was his only chance in the fight – to stick and move and fight in spurts – as the trainer was telling him all night).

    I was impressed with Rios and also want to see him again, but I don’t think a fight with a committed Ortiz is a good choice for him (Ortiz is a good boxer and a much better puncher than Peterson).

    About Gamboa, he is a work in progress but will be defeated against an elite technical fighter – IMO. I like Juanma a lot, and think he defeats Gamboa. I’m not as convinced about Chris John, and think that he MAY be able to stink out a win vs. Gamboa, but more likely Gamboa punishes him en route to a decision win (John is slick enough to make it to the final bell).

  • GC COACH says:

    For those who don’t know Both BAM BAM Brandon Rios and Vicious Victor Ortiz come from the same boxing club in Garden City Kansas and both came up together.

  • Big Al says:

    I was really going for Peterson. Thought he would have done well to fight on the outside.

    Sergio Martinez and Victor Ortiz show more class from Oxnard than the gang of punks on TV last night in Rios’corner (Vargas who got booed out of Oxnard and Cheater Margarito). Hope Ortiz goes fight Rios.

  • Joe says:

    I think Chris John despite unbeaten would get blasted out by Gamboa or Lopez. He struggled badly against Juarez who has become a gatekeeper type fighter.

  • Ryan Dunn says:

    @big hand job

    Roach had spoken about taking on Gamboa, hence the comparison.

    Take your hating elsewhere. I know Lahr and Williams don’t post right after their predictions are all wrong, but give them a couple days and they’ll be back, I promise.

    …ryan

  • An Unbiased Opinion says:

    @ big bob douche

    your name says it all…if you don’t like reading Ryan’s articles then don’t even click it at all. Go read Dave Lahr, Chris Williams, or Scott Gilfoid. At least Mr. Dunn makes an effort towards UNBIASED jounalism.

  • Ryan Dunn says:

    @big hand job

    both comments to those people were very relevant.

    what else can i say? if you don’t like it, don’t comment.

    …ryan

  • big hard bob is a douche says:

    in an artice were there was no need to mention them you still had to mention roach and pacquiao. . Wont you ever get off their nuts dunn?

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