Is Mayweather pricing himself out of the biggest superfight in the history of boxing
By Steve Robinson: There has been plenty of good fighters over the years capable of participating in a super fight. Mike McCallum was plenty good enough but lacked the charisma. Roy Jones didn’t really have a dance partner. He was probably too good for his own good. Riddick Bowe some how managed to miss Tyson and Lewis. The fact he priced himself out of a Lewis fight seems criminal.
Back in 1982 Larry Holmes took the smaller end of the purse and participated in a genuine super fight against Gerry Cooney. I remember the excitement as if it were yesterday and still think it was the highlight of Larry Holmes career. It takes two to tango, and without Cooney there was no super fight. Not only that, someone else would probably have ended up with a big purse and knocking Cooney out if Holmes didn’t do it.
Without Manny Pacquiao there is no super fight at all. 50% of the richest fight in history is a mind boggling amount of money. 60% of nothing is nil.

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@Keith Mayweather-you are soo funny….
1. he box (run)
PPV!
2. dancer
3. fake wrestler
4. drug crussader (do you know where’s he at!)
5. not interested in fighting for 2more years..(yet shopping
in Don’s stable a “game player/GBP has no more)
6. a good player on DODGE BALL when Manny put the ball back
into his courtyard by saying “you are a coward!”
7. and now…..
what’s next?
Talking about “And The Home Of The Brave……….”
well after Nov.13th Pacquiao’s horrible PPV numbers will put him in a very bad position in negotiations with Mayweather, because Pacquiao’s star power isnt as good as people think just look at his PPV numbers and compare his to Floyd’s. Mayweather is a very special fighter because he has a great fanbase and he has the people who only watch not to appreciate his skills but to see him lose, people who dont like Pacquiao dont watch him its just that simple
With PPV numbers like Mayweather’s its not likely that he can price himself out…especially considering the fact that manny Pacquiao’s stock is dropping with this farce Pacquiao VS Margarcheato…I’ll be amazed if this fight does 100 PPV buys over the Clottey fight
STFU! He said, he’s on top of all boxing greats! he”ll knock out the midget! Uncle stated with or without steroids, the one dimensional has no chance! Don stated “slim to none but slim left the town!…..Now, this little dude called Mayweather a COWARD! QUESTIONED HIS MANHOOD! AND NOW IS ON HIS FRONTYARD WELCOMED/EMBRACED BY MAYFLOWERS COUNTRYMAN! HOW FUNNY IS THAT? NOW WHERE IS YOUR DRUG CRUSSADER? HOW D@MB AND 1GNORANT ARE YOU?
Mayweather is an egotistical jerk with zero stones. NEXT ARTICLE!
With the occasional funny comment,you fellas are boring.Why not exchange phone numbers or emails and continue elsewhere.Boxing news 24,can’t you ban em for the sake of the rest of us who like to make worthwhile comments about boxing.
No offence guys.
@Failapino Hostage Takers Suck
Your so called greatest fighter of all time….
Do you know where he is?
ALL PHAGGIPAC NEEDS TO STOP SNIFFING FLOYD’S BUTT. CHASING HIM AROUND FOR A FIGHT IS CALLED DESPERATE. FLOYD WILL ONLY FIGHT CLEAN BOXER WITH NO PEDS (LOOKING AT YOU PHAGGIE!) lol
Catchweight is cheating. a fighter moving up in weight is probably moving closer to his natural weight anyway. usually when a fighter moves up he loses strength, speed and the ability to knock people out at heavier weights. Unless you are on something.
When you are a heavy weight it’s not realy an issue….The lighter you are especially in the smaller weights like Bantam and fly it’s a huge difference…
Margacheato agreed to the catchweight, but Margacheato is desperate for money. And Bob probably promised him a reward for even taking the fight….eat it Phaggi fan
To all you Pac Fans I make the following prediction: The truth about Pacman will one day be known and all memory of him will be erased from the boxing annals. Recent polls show more and more people are certain the Pacman is a cheat and a PED user.
@ Failapino
Good night son. Don’t forget to brush your teeth and change your underwear tonight.
DADDY HAS SPOKEN
Lol good one Phaggi friend, that’s how you remember your mom. You have no chance at any women, midget. Not allowed to enjoy the big boys ride at Six Flag? Aww poor midget.. maybe if you drank mink you can be like MIkE or FLOYD lol
This is way too easy. Like I said before, Floyd nut-huggers embarass themselves.
Next time I’ll try and show up earlier for a real verbal sparring match. This (Failapino) is child’s play.
LOL Don’t be such a midget fool. The only reason why Yahoo or any other so called p4p poll have Phaggi ahead of Floyd (hall of famer) is because he is on vacation. There is something for you swallow lol.
@ Failapino (the real, tonight’s victim # 1)
CALL ME DADDY
THE IDIOT SAYS: “My mother wouldn’t even consider 4 ft midget who looks like a dirty cow even in the shade.”
So you mother is attracted to cows, but only the clean ones and she likes them big?
That’s how I remember your mother alright.
FUNNY WHO IT DOESN’S SEEM TO BOTHER OR CONCERN PHAGGI FANS…
wheather he drains opponents….fights for title out of division weight standards…lies about contracts, doesn’t take random testing…only fights Bob Arum boys…doesn’t defend his title…and fights unworthy PPV opponents.
You Phaggi fans will drink urineif Phaggi told you to. Eat my sh$t while you are at it.
@Failapino Hostage Takers Suck
Bwahahahahahaha!
Ok so who exactly do you have going for you Americans at the moment?
LOL!
mmmmmmmmmmmmm………
Interesting…. it just so happens that the midget is also P4P #1…. you want to make this about our nation… fine…
When you find me the one representing your country (except for the one who went on holidays and left his nation of fans blubbering)… then let me know…..
Take Floyd (greatest fighter of all time) for example. He knew the crook inside of Arum and went elsewhere. He knows where the money was. Arum is a control freak and wanted to rip him off. Now Floyd is his own boss. Someone Phaggi will never achieve because he still bows down and throws his wife and daughter to any white man lol. Phaggi and his people are pathetic
A Phaggi Fan
Your people have absolutely nothing to cheer for. I get it now. Phaggi the midget from rat infested philipine island is your only hope lol
go phaggi make your people proud
fight a cheater and not a real champion
looks great on paper. win the paper title. you chump!
@Failapino Hostage Takers Suck
1. Crooked, has a history of fixing boxing matches. In house fights to build record (Phaggi).
- You do remember that Arum used to be Mayweathers promoter right? Now how many fights has Mayweather fought after Arum? Does that mean that Arum also built up Mayweathers record? mmmmmm interesting….
2. Liar, has been quoted as saying I lied yesterday but today I’m telilng the truth. lol. wtf?
- Okay…. fair enough… now do we want to start how much lies GBP, Sr, Roger, and your idol has spread? LOL!
Pathetic!
@ Failapino (the real, tonight’s victim # 1)
CALL ME DADDY
So my guess is that you live in America. Am I right? Will you be acquiring such a skill-set?
How about Canada? It’s in the same continent so will African migrants to the northern border also achieve such talent?
Daddy needs to know son. Daddy needs to know.
@ Failapino (the real, tonight’s victim # 1)
CALL ME DADDY
THE IDIOT SAYS: “Its because African American fighters used Freddie Roach like a punching bag when he tried to fight. Freddie understands their skill sets. You will soon see and understand.”
Please tell daddy this skill-set that only African American boxers possess. How many generations apart from Africa do you have to be to acquire such power? So this skill-set is not found in Africa since one needs to travel all the way to America where it is found? Tell me more
Daddy needs to know son. Daddy needs to know.
A Phaggi Fan
Oh don’t lie, you like to watch the soon to be hall of famer Floyd Jr in the ring. You of all people are envious, watching him is like feeling a hole left by Phaggie. Phaggi is one dimensional, all offense, no defense. Clottey, the weakest of the weak welterweight landed more accurate punch to Phaggie’s donkey face than cotto. I know you can verify facts, you Phaggie are a bunch of bandwaggon fan.
@Failapino Hostage Takers Suck
LOL!
You hate filipinos so much I’m starting to think your Mom is a sucker for them…
Is that why your hating the midgets too much? Did your mom used to kick you out of your room so she can get jiggy with them?
LOL!
@ Failapino (the real, tonight’s victim # 1)
CALL ME DADDY
THE IDIOT SAYS:
1) Mosely
2) Berto
3) Martinez
4) JMM III
5) Williams
How cute…you made a list all by yourself. If this list is not followed by Pac, what will you do with your life son. What will you do? Daddy needs to know son. Daddy needs to know.
Its because African American fighters used Freddie Roach like a punching bag when he tried to fight. Freddie understands their skill sets.
You will soon see and understand.
@Failapino Hostage Takers Suck
1 question for you…
Did you pay to watch your idol against Marquez?
Cos I certainly didn’t……
lol oh this is too good. someone actually wants to me to be part of their family. Silly little midget. I am your daddy. Go eat Sh$t you.
I HAVE 100 REASONS WHY PHAGGI WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS A CLOWN.
Marg vs Phaggi.. This fight is a dog and pony show just like all of Phaggi’s fights. There’s a con on every corner and plenty of fools to buy into him.
I really feel sorry for Phaggi fans. I think phaggi would look exciting beating up my grandfather, but dude….would you pay 50 to see that too?
@ Failapino (the real, tonight’s victim # 1)
CALL ME DADDY
I’ll start off real slow for you son.
THE IDIOT SAYS:”PHAGGIPAC (Pacquiao) FANS ARE VERY STUPID MIDGETS”
Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Lennox Lewis, and even your hero Floyd Jr. have been quoted as saying that they enjoy Pacquiao fights. They are black, just like you.
So by your definition, are they stupid midgets too?
Daddy needs to know son. Daddy needs to know.
@Failapino Hostage Takers Suck
Tell Mayweather to end his vacation then we can debate about your boy…
But as far as boxing fans are concerned.. he is on vacation….
And mate… if your idol can beat Pac so easily… why ask for a test?
If I can argue with you on the internet and beat you to a pulp using logic…. I wouldn’t need to ask you to tie your hand behind your back do I?
Hey Honest PhaggiFan..
Who is chasing after who? I believe its your dog Phaggi sniffing Floyd’s butt. He’ll roll over and do tricks to please Floyd, but that ain’t going to work. All Floyd wants is a clean fight. How can anyone refuse random drug test? I don’t get it, a full blown midget man afraid of needles lol. Maybe he should face his fear of needle first before taking on Margacheato who knows.. margacheato may stuff his glove with needles lol o lol
@ Failapino (the real, tonight’s victim # 1)
CALL ME DADDY
So you are a black boy…That’s very interesting.
You call your peni$ “black sausage” and you prefer older women. You seem to be agitated tonight for some reason.
Tell me about Pacquiao and his people again Tell daddy why you are feeling angry and upset and maybe daddy can make it all better for you son.
Let’s start slow this time. Not sure if you can handle a mental heavyweight.
THE IDIOT SAYS: “Margarito doesn’t have a chance in hell of winning a decision.”
So you are saying that Margarito will need to KO the southpaw in order to win. Is Margarito that good as to easily beat Pac but the powers that be won’t allow it? Is Margarito your idol? Do you believe him when he says he didn’t know his gloves were loaded? I need to know son, daddy needs to know.
Phaggi does not deserve, nor has he earned the right for a payday fighting Hall of Famer Mayweather.
Here you go:
1) Mosely
2) Berto
3) Martinez
4) JMM III
5) Williams
EAT MY SH$T PHAGGI. FIGHT SOMEONE MEANINGFUL FOR ONCE
PHAGGIPAC FANS ARE VERY STUPID MIDGETS….
Phaggie’s still one dimensional. This is the reason Freddie and Bob Arum keep him inside the stable.
Phaggi is nothing. His name (not his ability) is the only thing saving him for now. But should his next fight be a rematch with Cotto I don’t even thing his fans will be happy. Phaggiwill end up going back to the philipines as a big catchweight coward.
@Failapino Hostage Takers Suck
I feel sorry for you…
Your hate is driving you crazy to the point that you can condemn an entire race….
If I were you, I’d hang myself.. cos nothing that you can say will take away what this lil midget has done in boxing….
Atleast if you did so.. you won’t have to hear another word about the midget…
Good article Steve with a fresh take on the issue.Me personally i would forget it until after Pac fights Margarito,but i suppose any post on May and Pac gets the most responses.
The 90′s missed out on a terrific superfight in the making which also had previous history,but because of Bowe’s demands or just plain cowardice(i favour the latter because he was scarred by they previous tussle)the fight never happened.
Both still had glittering careers,especially Lewis,but boxing was the loser in the end.
“50% of the richest fight in history is a mind boggling amount of money.60% of nothing is nil”.Great great comment that mate!Let’s hope May and Pac read it.
@Buck
WTF are you blabbering about? I pasted the judge’s official statement. You know, the one other people are making stuff up about>
…ryan
Anyway, Margarito doesn’t have a chance in hell of winning a decision. Even if Margarito is ahead by a decent margin, watch out for some Tomfoolery here. Margarito will in essence need a knockout to walk away with a victory.
I don’t see Margarito winning a fight that Bob Arum promotes, hand picked the referree, and worked directly with Jerry Jones to make happen. However I do see the little fella bleeding live a sivh. He could very possibly look the exact same way JMM made him look in both previous meetings.
@ Failapino (the real, tonight’s victim # 1)
CALL ME DADDY
Please tell me your beef with Pac and his people. I’m all ears son. Talk to daddy. What’s really going on?
Pacquiao would get dropped by anyone in the top 5 of the WW Division. Why do you think he avoids them and hopes for the “MOTHER LOAD PAYDAY” with Mayweather.
Mayweather says to all of you….He is not worthy and does not deserve it.
“I will give him 25%, and we can get it on”!
@ Buck (tonight’s victim @ 1)
CALL ME DADDY
THE IDIOT SAYS: “It wasn’t Mayweather who called out Marquez. That mexican wanted trouble, so he got served like punching bag. The fact is, Floyd will fight anyone who calls him out, much like Shane.”
So you logic is, if someone calls you out and you don’t fight them, the one being called out is a “scared biatch?”
Let me know if I’m reading this right before I begin my assault on your intelligence. Feel free to elaborate your thoughts before I embarrass you and make you cry home to mama.
BTW, say hi to your mother for me.
Yes, this thread is still active.
Buck I want to apologize for using your name without asking. I am a 12 years old fat girl. I get lonely at home so I come here to say stupid things like boing boing boing boing boing pacquaio is a phag boing boing boing boing
Ryan stop copy and pasting someone else source, use your brain for once in your life.
It wasn’t Mayweather who called out Marquez. That mexican wanted trouble, so he got served like punching bag. The fact is, Floyd will fight anyone who calls him out, much like Shane. Floyd isn’t a scared biatch like Pac who hids behind daddy arum.
@lmfao
Prepare to be served, literally. Here is the Judge’s statement, please show me where he blatantly blames one side or the other, my good friend…
..
Mediator’s Corrective Order Re: Mayweather-Pacquiao Mediation
The Mediator finds:
1. Various articles have appeared in the press purporting to characterize the substance and outcome of the Mayweather-Pacquiao mediation and the negotiations between the parties. Many of the reports are incorrect.
2. The mediation was a confidential proceeding. Any comments to the press or public by participants in the mediation purporting to report the substance or details of the mediation are violations of the strict confidentiality to which the parties and their representatives agreed and which they authorized the Mediator to enforce.
3. The parties and their representatives authorized that, if misinformation was disclosed to the press by either side, the Mediator would correct any erroneous information.
The Mediator corrects the erroneous reports to the press as follows:
a. Both parties participated in the mediation in good faith. Both parties participated in many hours of negotiation, with a number of proposals issued by each side and carefully considered by the parties and their representatives.
b. The Mediator himself did not formulate, recommend or issue a Mediator’s Proposal. The Mediator did not make an evaluation or finding that any one of the many proposals considered by the parties was the correct protocol.
c. Any attempt to characterize the mediation process as an acceptance or rejection by any of the parties of a mediator’s or an arbiter’s proposal or of any specific proposal is false.
d. In the end, the parties could not agree on a testing protocol acceptable to all.
..
I’ll be waiting.
…ryan
@Buck: Ask yourself why Mayweather avoided Margarito? Myweather would not fight Cotto now or even Clottey. Mayweather’s next opponent will be Mathew Hatton. Watch and see when they announce his next fight, who knows maybe he will fight another lightweight. LMAO!!
Floyd hasn’t priced himself out of the pac fight, he’s scared himself out of it. He’s been listening to his daddy’s boogie man stories about magical steroids that were used in way back in Vietnam, the kind that let dudes walk through walls of bullets…I guess the apple don’t fall far from the crackhead
Someone drag that b1tch out from under his bed, tie him up, and throw him in the ring. That’s about the only way we’ll ever see this fight.
@Let’s get it on…quit using other peoples’ names…
@Buck
you keep telling a 12 year old boy even in other article.dude if you dont have anything to say stop posting cause youre the one who look like a 12 year old idiot.
Read my written English. It’s easy to tell a 12 year old Filipino is using my name.
I will keep bashing the midget and using facts!!!
@8 Count, The Crack Man must begin fighting TOP CONTEBDERS!!!
No more Clotteys, Cheatos, or Cottos…PLEASE???
Ryan Dunn is an idiot. Don’t read that guys stuff, he beef up Pacquaio make him larger than life through is so called facts and quotes. He is an opportunist selling Pacquaio underpants and bra.
@blanche_boy **** floyd made 40 million vs mosley. he has other options that can net him the same type of money. he already proved does not need manny to make top money. casual fan isnt hype about this bout anymore anyway. will not sell 2 million ppv if it happens. will not make the money it would have made if it was after the cotto manny bout.
Ryan Dunn says:
@Big Lo
“I’d say the two Castillo fights were closer than the ODLH fight”.
@Ryan,
Yes, I would agree. However, he wasn’t in jeapordy of losing those fights (at least not to the degree that he almost lost the DLH fight – according to the judges scores). OK, he MAY have been in jeopardy of losing the 2nd Castillo fight because he only won by 1 round on two cards, and 2 rounds on the 3rd card.
But, this still supports my position that he has “rarely” come close to losing.
how will this $50 million question end? floyd does believe he can earn the same amount of money without fighting pacquiao and not taking the risk of losing his perfect record. we might not get to see this fight happening soon. floyd is taking time to get that perfect opportunity but when is that opportunity? my guess is when pacquaio is 35 years old and absorbed greater punishment. and when that time comes, he does need to win by knockout, just the decision he normally gets. that’s how smart and wise floyd is….
IMO,Floyd don’t want to fight Manny.Random blood test is not required to make the fight.He fought JMM without it.If cleaning up the sport is his purpose then why is he on vacation(retirement).I don’t want to believe that he is scared, but I do believe that in his mind,fighting Manny is of higher risk of losing his unbeaten record.He will avoid Manny until Pacquiao is crippled or blind,or weaken him with demands(RBT).
@Manuel, why does your idol refuse to fight anyone in the top 5 in the Welter Weight Division? Why does he keep fighting bums?
Beat Down Cotto
No Fight Clottey
Cheato Margarito
Beat Down Cotto II
No Fight Clottey II
Cheato Margarito II
Then comes a third time…
yes floyd said he fought jmm b/c he called him out and that manny never called him out, maywether already said he would fight manny in fact he wants to whip his punk ass his words exactly for manny to challenge maywether but refuses to take the requested testing is the same as not challenging him or refuseing to fight him b/c he knows that no test = no fight so dont let pacquiaos antics fool you its a shame how eaisly people can be led to believe anything if their heart is in wake up tell manny to accept full random testing and then see how fast a fight can be made
@ryan dunn— u failed to mention that the fight could of happened if only there was random testing w/out a cutoff date,ur whole statement seems to only place the blame on maywether.according to the way all fights are negotiated the fighter with the higher ppv#s normally gets a larger slice of the pie,with that said it is manny who is changeing the negotiating practices.when a fighter makes a statement like if we both take random testing then we can make the fight for all the fans at that point how can u continue to place blame on him for not making the fight when the other fighter refuses to accept a resonable request where both not one fighter would be subjected to the same standards.all the name calling from team pacquiao and manny saying how bad he wants the fight is just damage control b/c if he wanted the fight hed take the test at which point the purse split can be worked out possibly a 50/50 but no test no fight he chooses to make it more about the purse split when that is secondary and can be easily resolved.
Before,KFC is telling the world that Pacman has no balls because he lets Arum and Roach dictate his career. Due to failed negotiations, Pac challenged KFC in a press release in Manila to make the fight happens. Pac is tired of KFC’s excuses and went out on his own to challenge KFC. Pac says,”Fans want to know who is the best boxer so give what the fans wants. Fight me now.” Pac has never done this before. He usually tell the media that it is up to his promoter or trainer who to fight next. Isn’t it true that KFC told the press that the reason he fought JMM is because he challenged him in a press conference? Well, KFC is challenged now by Pac in a media release. Now what is KFC’s response? BOXING IS NOT IN HIS MIND RIGHT NOW. Is this an acceptable excuse? How can you say that wherein before you said boxing is your life. The truth is KFC is scared because he could loose and he might potentially get the worst beating of his life. Maybe worst than the beating De La Hoya and Cotto got. Who is the coward now and what a lame excuse to tell the world. A pretentious guy who claims he is greater than Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali. Pathetic excuse for someone who thinks highly of himself.
@Manuel, what the FK did you say? Mayweather hasn’t stepped foot in the Philipines nor would he EVER!!!
You midgets must breathe different air down there!
Before,KFC is telling the world that Pacman has no balls because he lets Arum and Roach dictate his career. Due to failed negotiations, Pac challenged KFC in a press release in Manila to make the fight happens. Pac is tired of KFC’s excuses and went out on his own to challenge KFC. Now what is KFC’s response? BOXING IS NOT IN HIS MIND RIGHT NOW. Who is the coward now and what a lame excuse to tell the world. A pretentious guy who claims he is greater than Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali. Pathetic excuse for someone who thinks highly of himself.
@Taylor, all Pac has to do TO GET THIS FIGHT ON:
1) Call a PRESS CONFERENCE and Announce: “I will take the Full, Complete, Comprehensive, “Random” resting up to and including the day of the fight to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr.
I GUARANTEE YOU THIS IS ALL PACQUIAO NEEDS TO DO!!!
THIS FIGHT WOULD BE DONE…DONE…DONE!!!!
Before,KFC is telling the world that Pacman has no balls because he lets Arum and Roach dictate his career. Due to failed negotiations, Pac challenged KFC in a press release in Manila to make the fight happens. Pac is tired of KFC’s excused and went out on his own to challenge KFC. Now what is KFC’s response? BOXING IS NOT IN HIS MIND RIGHT NOW. Who is the coward now and what a lame excuse to tell the world. A pretentious guy who claims is greater than Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali. Pathetic excuse for someone who thinks highly of himself.
Yo Manny, we just want you to fight a “Ranked” fighter. Cheato aint cuttin it!
Sugar Shane Mosely would be nice!!!!
Hell yeah he did! Just look at the number of guys who are calling pac out now that he is #1 p4p. No one knows the reason why Floyd walked away from the negotiation, its speculated that he is avoiding the #1 p4p to preserve his record. A lot of people i’ve talked to have all agree. All Floyd has to say is I’ll fight you when I come back from vacation. Give his fan a little breathing room, but no, all they got was I’m not thinkin about boxing. Haha. Way to go champ, thanks for leaving your fan behind.
@mannyfresh209
the reason why pacquio can get to mayweather where marquez couldnt is that pacquio has moved upwards….in weight, in strength, in punch power and in the skills department (F. Roach).
if pacman fought marquez now he would beat marquez up proper. He knocked marquez down 3 times in the first round before, this time it would be once because his punch power has improved.
Pacquiao has come on in leaps and bounds, to the point where he knocks people out and beats them down in a violent way. people want to fight him for the payday but everyone is scared of him, especially Mayweather. Why else has mayweather made excuse after excuse? why did mayweather agree to 50-50 before but not now? Because pacman agreed to the testing mayweather had to come up with another excuse, but this time he’s come up with 2 excuses, the purse and retiremnet. he wants to make extra sure he wont fight pacman.
“@Flipnos, agree and take the test and prove it….
BETCHA CAN’T DO IT….”
i don’t think it’s the TEST, i’d say it’s the WILL, COURAGE, and SPIRIT to take the fight….
@Flipnos, agree and take the test and prove it….
BETCHA CAN’T DO IT….
Definitely, the Weeder is pricing himself out of a big money fight.
However, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ does not mean a thing, if you are scared to fight someone in the ring!
@lmfao. well said. The world is tired of watching Crack Man fight Slow, forward plodding, beaten, broken down fighters coming off of devastating losses.
GET THE HELL OUT OF THE TOP RANK STABLE…NO TALEMT THERE!!!
FloydDrugUser is seriously sick mentally and is on the verge of sinking. He and his mob family had really no intention of fighting Pac, all they have are nothing but silly talks which is becoming more and more laughable as time runs out. He taught seeking shelter with DK was a clever move, the DK frequently making contradicting statement and now seems being contaminated by the DrugUser mental disorder together with the criminal uncle and father, what a total wast !
yes ryann, the judge made it very clear in his official statement who fault truly fell upon for not sticking to the negotiations. anybody with half a brain and an ounce of literacy is capable of understanding that. but then again too, you are the same guy who i have seen post some pretty silly arguments here before so..
If you call yourself the greatest and you said that midget is one dimensional plus your trainer stated that with or without steroids, he has no chance of winning add to Mr. Don’s “Pac has slim to none, but slim just left the town”. Isn’t it “ironic” that one little dude called you a coward, questioning your manhood and is now in your frontyard greeted/embraced by your countrymen while you are still on hiding?
I wonder if Floyd Jr. get this kind of reception everywhere he goes.
floyd, bragging as a PPV attraction? Maybe, but that was then, not right now, because it belong to Pacquiao now, the authentic P4P king and the new PPV attraction fighter. MANNY PACQUIAO .NOT A COWARD floyd mayweather jr, not a warrior.
yeas he is and for someone who sole purpose in the game seems to be money and making as much as possible (moneymayweather) i can come come to the only conclusion that floyd is scared scared of getting ko,d and losing that 0.hes talked himself into a corner.
@Big Lo
I’d say the two Castillo fights were closer than the ODLH fight.
…ryan
@lmfao
YOU SAID: “After it was all said and done, he made it clear that arum/pac walked away from the table, floyd and his team were willing to stay at the table with the judge and hammer everything out.”
That is simply untrue. If you can prove to me otherwise, I will stand corrected. The only thing, if anything, that the judge may have done, was implied that Top Rank made some erroneous claims about what went down.
The judge’s official statement is quite clear for anyone who has a brain of their own to look it up.
…ryan
Chakyun said:
“I´m wondering, why he is so hesitant fighting Pacquiao. It seems to me that something is bothering him and telling that this is a fight he´s not gonna win!”
@Chakyun,
Here’s the problem with your assumption. Floyd has never lost and has rarely come close to losing (the closest he came to losing was against DLH and I’m sure he didn’t feel like that was a close fight – I sure didn’t).
So, I can guarantee that Floyd doesn’t think that “this is a fight he’s not gonna win”. What’s more probable is that he feels like this will be a very tough fight and he wants EVERY advantage to ensure a victory.
But, I’m positive that he doesn’t think he can’t win.
This article is funny… Cause Floyd is the king of the ring… No matter what Manny does he’s gonna have to fight Floyd….
i agree, pac can do better numbers than what he is doing, but he has to fight different style fighters and not snails and turtles, people are bored watching slow fighters come straight in and dedicate themselves to being a punching bag. Nobody wants to keep paying for fights that everybody knows what will happen. Fighter xyz walks in slowly, punches slowy, moves slowly, pac throw 300 punches at the guy, the guy being too slow gets hits over and over and pac wins. That is boring, not toe to toe battle. Rabbit against a snail, rabbit wins everyday. Fight a different style fighter and challange himself is what i say.
A lot of fans and boxing critics already predicted Mayweather will win over Pacquiao, if the fight happens. But I do believe Mayweather doesn´t agree with that assumption. Mayweather is a man who is pretty much sure of himself. He is a very wise and smart boxer, a businessman in his own right whose excellent in playing mind games. He will never go inside the ring to fight, if he´s not sure he´ll gonna win the fight. His instict and judgement are impecable and everybody can see that based on his record wins. But I´m wondering, why he is so hesitant fighting Pacquiao. It seems to me that something is bothering him and telling that this is a fight he´s not gonna win!
You said there was no comparison in Pac-Clottey/ Floyd-Shane. While I agree both are Shane and Money are Americans and they have a following, Shane needed Floyd. That was Shane’s highest PPV ever. If his popularity is justified, he will do over a million buys versus Segio Mora.
Pac doesn’t necessarily have to fight an American to do big numbers, just a big name. If he fought Berto, Shane, Bradley, I guarentee he will do big numbers because its a fight that the people want to see.
it really doesnt matter what we say, lets look at the one sole nuetral person thats been forgotten about during the negotiations. The trusted man who pac once used befor to help get him out of his contract and into his contract with arum. The retired federal judge. After it was all said and done, he made it clear that arum/pac walked away from the table, floyd and his team were willing to stay at the table with the judge and hammer everything out. Cant call the judge biased because pac has used his services before and pac likes and respects the man. So who do you believe, arum, gbp, or the federal judge. Im going with the judge, he has no reason to lie about who gave up easily and did not seem interested in working evenly.
@peggers123
THANK YOU!!! your point is utterly brilliant…
marquez could get near pac becuz of their VERY similar size.
marquez couldn’t get near floyd at all becuz of his undersized frame. which is, by your assesment, similar to pacquiao’s.
so, i ask you this.. how is it that pacquiao is going to be able to get to mayweather, when marquez couldn’t? marquez outboxed pacquiao, while pacquiao was able to get to him. against someone that will UNDOUBTEDLY outbox pacquiao, without him being able to get to him, much like marquez, how will pacquiao be able to perform?
@ let’s get it on
No, what I’m saying is that Pacquiao is refusing to accept random blood testing. What Pacquiao is willing to accept now is same 14-day cut-off that Mayweather offered during the first negotiations, that Pacquiao walked away from. If you remember, during Mayweather’s interview immediately after the Mosley fight, he made it very clear that a fight could be made if Pacquiao agreed to random testing with no cut-off. I’m sure both Arum and Pacquiao,just as the rest us who was watching, heard Mayweather say that. Why Arum and Pacquiao would set a deadling on the 14-day cut-off that the knew was no longer on the table doesn’t make much sense all. Here is the problem with the 14-day cut-off — if you know that testing is not going to take place during the last 14 days, you will be able to cheat and get away with it. What random means is testing could be at anytime, whether its 30 days, 15 days, 5, days before the fight, or even the day of the fight. What random testing does is that it will both fighers honest. If you are an honest fighter, you should have not problem with signing a contract with random testing.
Thanks F.L-A. We Don’t play for saying what i wanted to say toward Afro. Be at peace Bro.
Nah, its like this
Floyd: Damn Pac is defying science! he keeps his speed and has added power! what kind of foolishness?!
Floyd Sr: Boy, in my days i knew a few cats that did that with some of that sticky icky, you kno’ wha’ im sayin’
Floyd: Hmm, i wonder if Pacquiao may be doing the same pops, lets ask him
Manny: Erm, Im erm scared of needles,no wait i have tattoos, erm , yeah erm im clean erm who the hell you calling a cheater?!
Floyd: Damn dude if your clean just take the tests! like mosley did!
well something like that
@Big Lo
I’m about to post a more thorough timeline of my own. Standby for lift-off, the truth shall be revealed.
…ryan
If Manny had really wanted this fight, he should have agreed to the testing and made the fight happen. Manny never dropped the $10 Million per pound over clause did he?
The fight negotiations failed PURE AND SIMPLE because of drug negotiations.
TO THIS DAY, MANNY PACUIAO REFUSES “RANDOM” TESTING!!!
I just posted a link to Wikipedia but my comment is being moderated. Anyway, this resource lists out the timelines and issues surrounding the failed negotiations.
It’s an informative read and worth the time for those interested (if you aren’t already aware).
Look up Manny’s name
And can I make a quick point to the dipsh\ts out there who keep saying the first negotiations failed because of drug testing?
No, they didn’t. They failed because Floyd put in the drug testing clause. If Floyd really wanted the fight, and it was about to fall through, he should have dropped the demand or agreed to whatever compromise Manny agreed to (full random urine and a blood cut off date).
The fact that we’re trivializing a clause invented by Floyd and then blaming his opponent for not agreeing to it 100% goes to show that people don’t understand what the word negotiation means.
If it was a red herring, meaning a decoy condition, then it doesn’t matter how many OTHER things Floyd agreed to. In fact, it makes it suspicious how swiftly he agreed to all of the other “minor” things like “money”, doesn’t it?
Open your eyes people, it’s not all black and white, as many seem to think.
…ryan
@Big Lo
The answer to your questions are NO and YES.
…ryan
Here’s a question:
For Pac fans:
If Pac does less than a mill against the cheater, does he still qualify for 50-50 split with Floyd?
For Floyd fans:
If Pac does equal to or more than 1.4 mill against the cheater, does he qualify for 50-50 split with Floyd?
Frazier took a 50-50 split in 1971 and Foreman did the same in 1974 to make the biggest fights at the time with Ali, even though they were the champions. They both wanted the chance to prove they were better than Ali and also because they were getting paid extremely well.
There is something called pride that drives a boxer. And that other urge to shut an oppnent down and leave your legacy is what they also live for. Floyd Daffy Duck prefers to proclaim he is the best ever without ever daring to prove it against the only man who potentially has the skill and work habits to beat him.
The Truth about Floyd’s cowardice must really hurt him. lol
@The Truth
DO YOU THINK MANNY REFUSED TO THE BLOOD TESTING?
Not at all, in negotiations you must have an opening position. I believe Mayweather’s plan all along is to negotiate a purse split that favors him, whether its 60/40, 55/45, on even 51/49, because of his unbeaten record and better PPV numbers. The thing that’s really preventing this fight is Manny’s refusal of random blood testing at anytime. If Manny ever would agree, you can be assured that Mayweather would be ok with even a 51/49 split on a $100 million dollar fight.
Lets get it on, ur defo a retard i mean Lmfao came out with some sense and said everything right, and somehow u made out how he said something else.
look simply; manny is good
floyd is good. i dont profit from siding with one over the other, but in the ring when they do eventually fight i think floyd will win. its fair to say floyd looks asif he is ducking pac. fair ennuf. but why is pac demanding a bigger share?? who is he?? i mean he won his last few fights, but business wise he doesnt compete with may financially. may is a money maker, his fighst break ppv records, its like a small businessman challenging Bill gates!
boxing is a business first and a sport second. Always has been. Thats why you disapointed, because this is something that you cant comprehend. Once you understand business you will better understand whats going on. And yes this margo fight is a business deal with pac, it is not about sport, giving you the fan what you want. Pac is in business just like the rest of them, but floyd has proven to be a better businessman also. Accept and embrace, boxing has been and will always be a business. Two states denied margo, texas let him in, why? Business, money to be made.
@lmfao
THAT’S BEFORE..BUT NOW, YOU SEE HOW THE YOUR BOXING SCIENCE BROKE DOWN? DID YOU SAW JACOBS AND CALDERON? THE BRAWL AND THE POWER WILL PREVAIL LOL! FLOYD IS NEXT, JUST WATCH IT.
lets get it on, i watch mma to see toe to toe brawls, i watch boxing to see chess in motion. The science, the art, the beauty, the adaptability, the ability to only two fist to systematically break down another man. Tyson was great at knocking people out, but what science and beauty of art in motion did he really use. Kimbo can knock people out, but is he disciplined with the art that boxing is all about? No. So yes i would rather watch roy jones, ali, sweet pea, zab and others who show that they are truly blessed in the art and does not have to rely only on a punchers chance.
Its all too convincing that Floyd and his fans are jealous of Manny’s success and achievements.
Schafer HBO, Goldenboy, Mayweather Sr Roger Jr all slandered Pacquaio to the point where Pac had to take them to court.
Its only recently that the slandering stop from those cowards.
Floyd is like the cartoon road runner alway good for a laugh Peep Peep.
LOL Chuck Norris your right.
FOR THE RETARD GUY WHO SAID COTTO BEAT MOSLEY, AND PAC BEAT COTTO. COTTO WAS A WARRIOR BEFORE THE CHEATER BEAT HIM BY USING LOADED GLOVES, I MEAN FLOYD DIDNT WANT NOTHIN TO DO WITH HIM NOR DID HATTON OR ODLH. FREDDIE ROACH WAS QUOTED TO SAY MOSLEY IS TOO GOOD FOR PACQUIAO. FCUK BOB ARUM HE IS A GREEDY PIG WHO WANTS MORE MONEY THAN HE DESERVES. BOTH PAC AND MAY ARE BRILLIANT AND SHOULD SORT IT OUT IN THE RING INSTED OF TRYING TO MANIPULATE EVERYTHING, THEY ARE NOT MEETING HALFWAY IN ANY DECISION, NO COMPRIMISING! AND WHOO THE FRIGG SAID FIGHT MARQUEZ IN HIS NATURAL WIEGHT??? DO YOU SEE FLOYD GO DOWN U FOOL MARQUES CAME TO FLOYDS DIVISION NOT THE OTHER WAY
@lmfao
THIS IS BUSINESS BUT THE BOTTOM OF IT IS ‘THIS IS SPORTS’
if i was only proficient at one thing at work my company would have been terminated me. But each and everyday i show diversity, i am capable of many things. Pac is at work in the ring and we get the same style fighters, no diversity in that at all. Show us his portfolio, the diversity, the dynamics, the adaptability. Show us why his portfolio demands a equal split. Thats hard to do looking at it honestly. His portfolio is boring, every page looks the same with the exception of a few fighters, and those exceptional fighters made his portfolio look bad when he fought them. This is business.
@elgato: Pacquiao said he would fight the WINNER of the Mayweather/Mosley fight. Why would or should he fight the loser?? Problem with you Mayweather fans is you are willing to pit Pacquiao against other fighters, but when it come to Mayweather, he can fight leightweights and the is just fine with you all. I’d like to see Mayweather fight Marquez at Marquez’s natural weight, it bet it would be a different fight.
I think that both Manny and Floyds egos are too big, i mean Floyd wont fight unless Pac does what he wants, and Pac wont fight unless Floyd does what he want. they both should get in the ring to decide who is better, because both of them are outstanding talents.
anyone who disagrees to what i said, a roundhouse kick will be delivered soon!
- ” Chuck Norris can win a game of Connect 4, in just 3 Moves…….”
Lets stay on topic here. Is Mayweather pricing himself out of the biggest superfight in the history of boxing?
YEAH, if you changed your name to MONEY, then it should be a no brainer to go after the biggest fight boxing fans want.
To act like a coward and make excuses is just pathetic. People can see right through his action, it speaks louder than words.
Pacquiao doesnt earn as much as mayweather but somehow mayweather is still on the run from the IRS!!! I reckon mayweather would be retired if he didnt need the money. That way he could keep his undefeated record. But for now he’s scrambling to find a way to avoid Pacman, its there for all to see, except for those people wearing Mayweather-tinted glasses!
And for the record, Money goes alot further in Phillipines than in USA. £5million dollars in Phillipines will buy you more than double what you would get in USA. So who’s the richer guy?
If mayweather wanted Pacman, he would have Pacman. Simple!
@lmfao
DID YOU SAY PEOPLE ARE BORED WATCHING TOE TO TOE FIGHTS? SO DO YOU MEAN YOU LIKE WATCHING RUNNING AND BORING FIGHTS? LOL! DUDE, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
SO WHAT MOSLEY IS TOO GOOD FOR PACMAN? HE FOUGHT COTTO WHO BEAT MOSLEY RIGHT?
if if if and more if’s. If toney would have punched he would have had a punchers chance to won, if plaxico didnt shoot himself he would still be playing football. If pac took a different style fighter we would have to wonder and question how many ppv buys he would have. We can do if’s all day long, but styles makes fights and ppv buys speaks money. Pac style fighters are the same which is why his numbers are always low. People are bored watching straight forward punching bags fight him. And cheato is another punching bag which is another reason nobody is intrested in seeing this fight that is completely flawed.
elgato Freddie Roach said Mosley is too good, for pacquiao
@lmfao
FLOYD IS A COWARD, PERIOD!!
lmfao
(you said) “Show us why he should deserve a even split because right now the numbers support floyd, and the style fighters support floyd”
I can agree with this.
Floyd doesn’t need Pacman. Floyd can fight Berto for easy money. They can hype berto up a little bit and boom…easy money. Berto is not good enough, but have been on HBO for a long time and is undefeated.
Pacman should have fought Mosley to prove to Floyd that he could get close PPV numbers and maybe even KO Mosley. The Margarito fight doesn’t not do any good for Pacman except a paycheck.
If Margarito forgets he is there to lose and makes it close, Pac loses bargining chips.
and lets not forget, once agin pac is fighting somebody that everybody already know he is gonna beat. You cant ask for a even split when you keep fighting the same types of fighters cherry picked that everybody clearly already know who should win. If anything pac should have took a different style fighter and proved that he is capable of beating a fighter that is not a walking forward punching bag. Show us why he should deserve a even split because right now the numbers support floyd, and the style fighters support floyd.
no floyd is not. Floyd brings in more money than any other sports figure second to woods. Floyd would be giving money to pac agreeing to a even split because pac dont generate the money. It doesnt matter if you are purple fighting in america, people pay to see who they are intrested in seeing and the fact of the matter is more people pay to see floyd. We can come up with all kinds of equations, but in the end the only thing that matters is dollars and cents, and the numbers clearly support floyd. Whenever you have pac fighting and its against whoever and we have to guess and say if it do such and such numbers, already you have acknowledge pac ability to generate big sales is questionable. If this and if that, if if was a fifth we would all be drunk lol, so lets just keep it simple, pac fighting cheato and both of them have fan bases and its a huge question mark about how many ppv buys, that is uncertainty and uncertainty in business is not good business, people invest in definites, not probabilities, and pac is a probility. So to sum it up, the second richest sports figure in the world does not need to do pac any favors, as arum say, floyd should not give pac a free ride.
Ryan Dunn
Pretty much agree with that as of 2010 being even. It’s still another “IF” but if Floyd where to fight more he would come out on top (slightly) IMO.
As being an American or not I don’t think that’s as big of an issue you make it out to be when your promoter markets you right and has HBO to back you on the fights.
Its like Hammed or Calzaghe where before they came here to America. “Coming to America” (great movie btw) and fighting in America is actually what made them famous or gave them the BIG paychecks. It wasn’t like it hindered there popularity or something. Maybe I’m looking at it the wrong way.
But yea I can agree to them being pretty even but I don’t think Margarito will help his case. I actually think ANY fighter Floyd or Pac fights that’s backed by HBO will do VERY WELL. Not as well if it where those 2 in the ring against each other but HBO does a great promotion for fights.
Proven when they hyped Clottey and will attempt to hype Margarito when we all know its a mismatch. This is a case of styles and Margarito’s style will suit Pac perfectly as he has no movement, he’s probably the slowest fighter Pac has ever faced and he has no defense. Not to mention he lost his power/plaster. This is a made to look good fight where nobody is arguing that Pac will lose or even come close to losing.
More people gave JMM or Hatton a chance at beating Mayweather. Arum should be giving us Margarito Cotto II but that’s clearly not on his agenda right now. As he knows Cotto would destroy Margarito and validate that he is washed up and a complete bum since being busted with plaster. This ruins any future potential Arum has at making any money from Margarito. Hints why he’s using Pac to make Margarito relevant as we all know Pac is going to win, where as Cotto shouldn’t because of being destroyed in the first match.
@cashflow79
i dont know that mayweather’s pay are free to tax right now.
no wonder that he’s having problem with IRS.
@FLA
Agree with you on the Golden Factor. I wrote an article about that a few months back.
The best fights to compare are:
Pac/ODLH vs. May/ODLH
PAC/Hatton vs. May/Hatton
PAC/Cotto vs. May/JMM
PAC/Clottey vs. May/Mosley
And when you compare them, be sure to justify ALL of the factors as to why they each made what they made (their popularity, their opponents popularity, the competitiveness of the fight, the marketing, HBO 24/7, controversy, etc.).
I think many who do this exercise objectively will discover Manny and Floyd are,as of 2010, fairly even.
If Manny breaks 1M buys with Margarito, this will further prove the argument. It will be two non-Americans on American soil generating a ton of interest.
Agree?
…ryan
haha verry funny man
No, I dont feel MAY is pricing himself out because Pacquiao needs the money. He is scheduled to gross $15 for the MARGO fight (now when you take out taxes to the U.S. and the Phillipines, personal and team/entourage expenses, fees to the WBC, Top Rank and Golden Boy’s cut); it’s probably net $5-$8 mil at best. With MAY he will walk away guaranteed with $30-$40 mil. Everyone one involved on PAC’s side will make an insane amount of $$ with MAY. The fight will happen, just be patient and stop acting like little children who throw a fit when they cant get their way…….
shakeeb NawaZ
Proof that I am wrong about those PPV numbers….
Also my grandfather fought in Golden Gloves. Grew up in a skating rink/club that he owned with a home made ring inside it.
Was in the Jr Olympics for speed skating which endurance wise paid off in boxing that I have been doing and watching for about 16ish years now. I know what it feels like to compete.
I’m also a southpaw that favors Pac styles. So stfu and come back when you actually have something relevant to bring to the table.
Yes its me…I take other people’s names and turn it aound. Aren’t I funny?
Stop calling us little people midgets. We are 4’8 giants!
Ryan Dunn
I agree with what your saying that and that was just 1 PPV fight that was close where there are a few. Statistically speaking, Mayweather sells more and that is the point and that was the start of the argument I had.
Team Pac really hope the fight with Margarito sells so they can compete with Mayweather’s (slightly) “higher” PPV numbers and revenue. If it doesn’t sell, Pac is in even worse situation where how could he ask for more money when he cant compete or sell MORE than Floyd?
That was all. In no way am I saying Floyd dominates Pac in the PPV department (like I think he would in the ring). They are pretty even with Floyd fighting less and making more. They both can thank Hoya!
@Ed, if Manny is the bigger draw, why can’t he put together more than 400,000 to 700,000 PPV buys? Floyd fights once per year and makes more than the Midget makes fighting 3 times per year!!! If the midget fought 3 times annually, Floyd would still exceed his winnings by $10 Million dollars…
WHO’S THE BIGGER DRAW?????
Crack Man…Step up take the 25%-40% and get the biggest payday of your life. Along with the most disgusting ass whoopin the world has ever seen!!!
Good morning guys!
Waking up to a Pretty boy Mayweather poster in front of you, is such a delight.
My poster is a shot of Mayweather’s back in the Mosley fight. Nobody has noticed this before, but he has perky nice ass.
Ok..ta ta see you guys later. I have to go and collect my unemployment insurance benefits.
xoxoxo
-tell it like it is
If I’m not mistaken, Floyd was part of the biggest PPV in history, correct? No Floyd, no record. Did he get 50% for that fight? Nope! Not even close. So why should Manny when Floyd is the bigger draw? Should the rules of negotiations be changed because it’s Manny Pacquiao??
Afrocutioner
No doubt Hoya was IS a bigger cash cow than both. I didn’t realize you were referring to Hoya at all. So in that case I agree.
Anyway I think Mayweather vs Martinez or Mayweather vs Pwill both would do over 1.4 million. I also think Mayweather Berto would do at least 1 million as long as Berto is undefeated. Af course all these fights would need HBO to back them with 24/7′s. Pac ultimately would make Floyd the most money as he is the fad right now to beat Mayweather.
I think Martinez and Pwill have a better chance at beating Floyd and these “bigger” threats that if marketed right would make Floyd a hell of a lot of money IMO.
good article.
Who is the one who needs the money, Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao, i guessed it pacquiao right.
floyd is afraid and thats it
Mayweather is a cash cow, however, he will never generate as much money as he would fighting Pacuiao. Mayweather is a flame, but pacquiao is the gasoline he needs to make his flame a ferno. This is the reason Manny diserves 50% of the purse because without him, there is no mega fight.
Floyd dont need the money especialy the money that carries to much risk, what use is the purse if his face looks well worked over and his pretty boy looks are tarnished.He will not take this fight for that very reason wether he is called scared or any other humbling names.
Why not give the winner 70% if wins via knock out or 60% if he wins via decision and 50% for a draw.
@Peggers123, tell the little fella to step up and accept the 25% he deserves and the FULL, COMPREHENSIVE, “RANDOM” TESTING, so we can get this party started.
THE MIDGET IS A JOKE. THE CRACK MAN IS 5’4 IN ELEVATED SHOES.
A JOKE FIGHTER THAT FIGHTS SLOW, BUSTED UP, FORWARD PLODDING, HAS BEENS OR PUNCHING BAGS LIKE CLOTTEY THAT ARE PAST THEIR PRIME.
MIDGET CRACK MAN….FIGHT “ANYONE IN THE TOP 5…I DARE YOU!!! YOU WOULD GET KNOCKED THE FK OUT AND YOU KNOW IT!!!
@ TELL IT LIKE IT IS………….
Thats not how boxing works. Size is a big factor, thats why you have weight classes dummy.
Marquez will never beat mayweather because he cant get near him. Mayweather looked like a heavyweight against marquez. With pacman, Marquez was able to get closer because he was a similar size to pacman.
Mayweather would get knocked out by david haye. Does that mean Haye is a better boxer? NO
Mayweather knows that he doesnt have a real advantage against pacman. He may weigh slightly more but the reach and height advantage is minimal. It will simply come down to the skills on the day. Mayweather doesnt want to risk it all for those odds!!! PUUUUUUSSSSSSYYYYY
@FLA
YOU SAID: “Your wrong. Mayweather vs Hatton did 920,000 buys with $50 million in revenue. where as Pacquiao vs Hatton did 850,000 buys with $45 million in revenue.”
Let’s use this measure for a second. So how does one fighter own the roost, and one only make chump change? The fact is Manny and Floyd are PPV kings, with no peers even close to them. Floyd might have a little edge but in a Superfight match-up, both guys should take an even split and make the fight happen, for there would be no purse even close for either of them.
Floyd might get similar purses with 80/20 splits against lesser fighters, but he won’t get nearly the same in PPV revenue shares. Example, he grossed $50M against Mosley after all was said and done, with a huge purse advantage. There aren’t many other fighters who will give Floyd a 1.4M PPV night, and some have projected Floyd can make $80-100M against Pacquiao.
Do the math.
Nobody should have to kiss anyone’s azz to make this fight, period. This isn’t f\cking the monarchy of the Roman Empire, here, this is modern America.
How about these people start acting like f\cking professionals and negotiate the way grown-ups do? None of this name calling, drug accusation, “I’m on vacation, but now I’m not on vacation,” malarky.
Get real.
…ryan
@maypicker, did you see what JMM did to Pacquiao’s face? Did you see how JMM out boxed The Crack Man and beat his ass?
Listen up, Mayweather is twice as fast as JMM, twice as skilled, and twice as smart. Crack Man’s face will be morphed beyond recognition within 5 rounds.
May 2011…You Will See!!!
The Crack Man is a human pinata. ANYONE in the top 5 of the WW Division would knock his ass clean out!!! Honestly, I would like young Berto to get the task and recognition for knocking him out! Berto is Fast, he hits very hard, and he has skills. Roach avoids this kid saying he isn’t ready. WHAAAAAAATTT!!!!! He says Mosely is too good for The Crack Man! Well doesn’t that mean the Crack Man isn’t P4P best?
Old Man Arum, Freddie The Joke, and The Crack Man are destroying a sport that is already slowly dying. Simply to choke out a few dollars and elevate a bogus pretend fighter.
he lost twice in his erlier cereer, when he lost to eric moral he came back and beat him twice, pacquiao didnt realy have an amature backround wich is a learning prossess for the pro game, on the other hand mayweather did have an amature backround and he lost 6 times, castillo layd out the bluprint on how to beat mayweather, keep him on the ropes with constant pressure and who on this earth can aply that kind of presure all night, not marquez not mosley who was like a statue not hatton, yes its pacquiao, hopefully mayweather will man up because im losing respect for him, he is destroying boxing, this fight is over shadowing all the fights i would normally look forword to
Every real Boxing or nuetral fan know’s Mayweather will beat Pacquiao, the man is simply too greedy, If Floyd got his way it would be 90/10 sp for Floyd.
Mayweather is in hiding, he is scared? If I remember , Floyd just fought a few months ago..Against the guy that koed margo! hahahaha ..Maybe floyd should fight the human statue clottey! So he can say, “oh I threw over 1000 punches” !! You can bet Floyds face would not get all busted up!!
Mayweather would beat pacquiao no doubt but he is scared to loose his unbeaten record, who will floyd fight now? maybe berto
EVERYBODY KNEW THAT MAYWEATHER IS AFRAID OF PACQUIAO WHICH MEANS HE IS COWARD TO FIGHT SOMEBODY HE CAN NOT DEFEAT.
IF THEY FIGHT IN THE FUTURE, WHICH IS JUST SPECULATION ONLY, THE BOXING FANS WILL BE JUST CURIOUS ONLY TO SEE THE FIGHT BUT NOT BECAUSE OF MAYWEATHER.
THIS MEANS THAT PACQUIAO WILL HAVE A MAJORITY CONTRIBUTION TO THE PPV. WHICH MEANS MAYWEATHER IS JUST AN ASS IN THE CAKE.
GOT WHAT I MEAN.
wot floyd will do to pac aint gona be anything new its been all done before
Who else can give Floyd his biggest paycheck among the current prize fighters today?????. It takes two to tango and PAC is the only one who could fit the bill.
Floyd has to back down on his demands in order to get it and Father Time is definitely not on his side if he doesn’t move on to make the fight happen. Floyd is 33 years old, two years older than PAC.
@ FLA
“He’s not that “big of a star” as appose to who may I ask?”
I was referencing ODLH. Give credit where credit is due. ODLH was the consensus cash king before Pac put him into retirement.
ODLH made both Mayweather and Pac into superstars.
Mosley is a much bigger name than Martinez and the bout between Mosley and Mayweather drew 1.4 million because they are both well known names. Sergio Martinez & Paul Williams are not well known names and don’t have a large fan base so fighting Floyd would most likely not come close to 1.4M buys.
Of course these are just predictions but I wouldn’t bet my house into thinking that a Mayweather v Martinez/Williams would generate 1.4M PPVs.
Put up Mayweather’s PPV numbers and compare them to ODLH and we both know who the clear winner is.
If I were to choose between who is the bigger PPV draw between Pac and Mayweather at this time, I’d say that they are about even with a slight, very slight lean towards Mayweather. 850K vs 920K is only a 70K difference and one was pre-recession and the other post-recession.
BTW, thank you for correcting me on the Mayweather v Hatton PPV numbers.
MBA
BUT at the end of the day, at the bottom line Floyd outsells Pac.
Its just like people wont look at all the stipulations, catchweights, and advantages Pac gets in his fights for all these titles. At the end of the day when its all said and done. He STILL has 7 soon to be 8 titles at 8 weights.
My point was simple. Mayweather is in fact the bigger draw. To validate this, he retired for nearly 2 years and came back and sold 1 million PPV vs JMM. I know the numbers I have seen them. You cant argue who’s the bigger draw.
Numbers don’t lie. People do especially the people that hate Mayweather. Hell they actually contribute a big part into Floyd outselling Pac. They know this and its a never ending cycle of hate. They continue to buy buy buy in hopes of him losing which leads to more hate and more PPV buys and more money for Floyd to flaunt.
Only if Manny loses to margarito. As it stands, Manny is the one who has priced himself out of a fight with Mayweather, what else would you call, refusing negotiations and going on to fight for lesser money and lower PPV numbers?
You aren’t looking back to compare then and now…economy now is tighter than it were then. It will always take two to tango..His fight with Oscar is largely due to Oscar’s popularity and not Floyd’s..Try to examine his PPV before his fight with Oscar and you will see that he is just a fairly average fighter in terms of drawing power…Mayweather being an American will always that have that advantage over Manny..but then it will always take two to tango…Sure, Manny-Clottey pales in comparison with Floyd-Sugar Shane simply because it was thought to be a better match up. Shane has his own followers just as Floyd has his own in contrast to Manny-Clottey where only Manny carried the burden.
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How do you know Mayweather Martinez wouldn’t do 1.4? Everyone’s calling for him to fight Martinez and or Pwill. I bet Mayweather Martinez would BLOW Pac Margarito out of the water in PPV numbers.
(you said)”Mayweather v Hatton only did 850K PPVs.
Your boy Mayweather is not that big of a star that he thinks he is”
Your wrong. Mayweather vs Hatton did 920,000 buys with $50 million in revenue
where as Pacquiao vs Hatton did 850,000 buys with $45 million in revenue.
In a total of 7 PPV fights, Floyd sold a total of 6.8 million PPV Buys with a total of $366.5 million revenue. Floyd averaged 970,000 PPV buys a fight. He also averaged $52.3 million per fight in revenue.
Where as Pac did a total of 11 PPV fights and did $6.3 million PPV buys with 324.3 million Total PPV Revenue. He
averaged 570,000 PPV buys per fight and he also averaged $29.4 million in revenue per fight
Floyd outsells Pac and does it by fighting less and retiring for nearly 2 years. Yet came back and still continues to outsell Pac? Tell me this chief, how is it that Mayweather outsells Pac EVEN when fighting the SAME fighter (well unless you want to say there washed up by the time Pac gets to them). How is it that Mayweather Hoya did 2X the amount of Pac Hoya? Why did Mayweather Hatton sell more than Pac Hatton or why did Mayweather JMM sell more than Pac JMM?
(you said) “Your boy Mayweather is not that big of a star that he thinks he is”
He’s not that “big of a star” as appose to who may I ask? He clearly outsells Pac. If he fought even more he would dominate Pac in the PPV numbers.
pacman will be the first to knock him out!!
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@ Big Moe
Pac is guaranteed $15 million plus a percentage of the PPV buys. My guess is that it will do close to a million buys.
Big Moe says: “Floyd can fight Martinez and make another 40 million.”
How do you figure Mayweather v Martinez doing 1.4 million buys when Mayweather needs another major name to generate those kind of numbers?
For example: ODLH v Mayweather did 2.15 million PPVs but his next fight, Mayweather v Hatton only did 850K PPVs.
Your boy Mayweather is not that big of a star that he thinks he is.
Yeah Rai, haha is dumb!!!
This is a great article.
Please keep up the good work.
Please be prepared for the Floyd Nut-huggers who will slam this article regardless of its professional objectivity.
Mayweather is a dog!
At a distance he barks on Pacquiao. But when confronted hides his tail and keeps his silence.
Anyone who doesn’t see it is a plain dumb.
Right haha?
Coward scared to fight. Achiles! Is pacquiao!
You are so right! It take two to Tango Manny needs to take his 40% and lets rock n roll this will be his big pay day. I”ll say it over and over they need to make the fight happen. I would be happy with any outcome I love the sport and I really love to see the Boxer vs the Puncher. Get arum out of the way and it will happen fast.
If only Pac would have went to fight in the ring instead of a court room earlier this year because of hurt feelings!
If ONLY Bob would have jumped through hoops then like he did to get Margarito in the ring with Pac now…..
If only…..
Coward Floyd Jr is so freaked out to see Manny coming straightforward to fight him. That’s why Coward Floyd Jr now is in hiding and you can call it “vacation”. Coward Floyd Jr knows that he can never win against Manny and losing his zero could jeopardize his business in boxing and his career. He’s so scared that he will become an ex-cash cow too. Look at those previous opponents of PacMan
@haha your right mayweather jr has the highest ppv sales but did you some cuts out of his purse nah and in fact he doesn’t even care about you. we filipinos got some of pacquiao purse by helping us and he never stops sharing his wealth and not only that zero crime everytime he fights, which is a bonus.
thought the number 2 ppv was tyson and lewis? could be wrong
LOL, he owns the #1 and #2 highest selling PPVs in boxing HISTORY.
Really, I don’t think you need to be worried about Floyd.
Your concern should probably be directed at Manok Phagiao who has to percentages of all his purses to TWO promoters (Hahahah, only a Flip could be that dumb) and basically makes chump change compared to Floyd.
mayweather is the only one that can beat pac man and the money would be huge …….he loves money, his name is money……there’s no excuse not to fight…..none…..if one of them loses before they fight each other, than they both lose out on that money…..y wont mayweather just fight him….just because he wants a bigger cut? he can face any one else and get 80% but that still wont be close to what he can get 50% with manny…..does he not know that? just fight!!! before no one cares anymore
Roy Jones had an opponent, dangerous ones in His Prime
in europe but He didn’t wanz to See