Ross Greenburg Tried to Put the Mayweather/Pacquiao Fight Together
July 27th, 2010
By Ryan Dunn: There has been plenty of mud slinging of late, following the second failed attempt to put “the fight” together between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao, the #1 and #2 pound-for-pound fighters in the sport (you choose the order).
Bob Arum and Top Rank Promotions set a deadline for Team Mayweather to make a decision as to whether or not he wanted to fight Pacquiao. Mayweather let this deadline pass, then casually stated he wasn’t thinking about boxing after all was said and done. Arum held a midnight press conference to explain what the deadline meant, how the exclusivity had now expired. He soon moved forward to put a fight together for Pacquiao’s November 13th fight date. It is looking like Antonio Margarito will be the likely opponent.
“I have had a couple of conversations with Ross and I laid out all the terms that would be acceptable to our side and I also informed him about the concession that Manny had made about drug testing. He got back to me in a couple of weeks and told me he had discussions with Al Haymon, representing Mayweather, and that everything looked good. We were nearing a resolution. The subsequent conversations with Ross detailed to me discussions he had with Al Haymon. Nowhere were the names of Richard Schaefer or Golden Boy mentioned”
Soon after this press conference, however, Leonard Ellerbe — Mayweather’s advisor and conditioning coach — stated that negotiations never took place at all. In Haymon’s own words:
“Here are the facts. Al Haymon, Richard Schaefer and myself speak to each other on a regular basis and the truth is no negotiations have ever taken place nor was there ever a deal agreed upon by Team Mayweather or Floyd Mayweather to fight Manny Pacquiao on November 13. Either Ross Greenburg or Bob Arum is not telling the truth, but history tells us who is lying.”
Okay then. So is Bob Arum is a pathological liar with nothing to do with his days but to outright deceive the fans? I have to admit, there was some shred of credence to Ellerbe’s accusations, and we all began to wonder. But what did Greenburg have to say about this? If Ellerbe was to be believed, then that meant Ross was just thrown under the bus by Arum.
Well, it turns out Arum and Greenburg are either partners in deceit, or Ellerbe is the one living under a cloud of delusion. Ring Magazine’s website recently put out a brief statement from Greenburg himself. Here’s what he had to say about the “negotiations” between the two camps:
“Fights like Mayweather vs. Pacquiao are significant because of these fighters’ ability to connect with sports fans around the world. It’s unfortunate that it won’t happen in 2010. I had been negotiating with a representative from each side since May 2nd, carefully trying to put the fight together. Hopefully, someday this fight will happen. Sports fans deserve it.”
At the end of the day, the end result remains the same. Floyd doesn’t want to fight right now. That’s fine. But why not let the fans know this back in May? How about in June? Or maybe sometime this month before the deadline? Why did he choose to stay silent while all other parties work diligently to put him in the squared circle against the Fighter of the Decade. Why did his manager put out a statement denying these negotiations ever happened? Fans worldwide are clamoring for this fight, but Floyd apparently isn’t even thinking about it.
We may never know the details of what was agreed to or not, but one thing we do know is that at least one person in these failed negotiations has a serious problem with the truth. I’ll let you guys decide who it is, now that you have the facts from all three parties.
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It’s a great time to start a relationship with Al Haymon for future benefits specially if you are an investigative writer. All business relationship ends one way or another. When it does for Al and Floyd, you’d want to be there beside Al. When he decides to write that book, you’d want to be the biographer to tell it. If Pacquiao vs Mayweather never materializes, it will al be there. Loyalty is great when it comes to business, truth and honest is one are two parts of loyalty you don’t rob yourself with. The crazy thing about the truth is that they have a strange way o revealing themselves. Lets hope a fight can be made in the future. If not, then a nice book from Al Haymon in the future wouldn’t be a bad read. I’m sure it will be interesting.
3danbelt
Use some kind of intelligence please. Also stop with the Invidiousness, its making you look feeble.
btw, don’t speak unless spoken to. It’s not polite.
i knew floyd would never ever take on pacquiao. now, everybody knows why.
@vdog
Oprah has more pull than 98% of the free world.
However, what do you know about Greenburg’s influence on the sport of boxing?
…ryan
It looks like it’s Margarito Vs. Pacquiao in November. Floyd who?
Whats funny is that IF Arum allows Pac to fight Mayweather next year and not Cotto (again) at a catchweight (again), Mayweather will be the betting favorite to beat Pac (again).
Funny thing is, like I have been saying Mayweather wont get credit for beating up another “smaller” fighter that he in fact is. People will bash the fact that Mayweather “cherry picked” little man Pac. It will be called a mismatch and unfair. Highly overrated and not worth the amount of money they’re attempting to charge for the fight.
Also for a little history lesson. Go look at both their records. Its absolutely a fact that Pac has outweighed his opponent more times than Mayweather outweighed his.
At the end of the day the fight WILL get made and if anyone can make or break a fight with Mayweather, its Mr Bob Arum (the former promoter of Floyd). Only time will tell because I lied yesterday but am telling the truth today!
Oprah probably has more pull than Russ Greenburg.
now surprise from the writer iv seen ur comments u luv manny pac and hate floyd.
anyway richard scheaffer has called arums bluff stating that know negotiations took place and blamed greenburg for misleading bob arum and asked them to take the lie detector test to prove.OWNED! all mayweathers side said no real negotiations took place jus that snake who claimed that nothing wud be said to the media claims there has been and he told evrything to media to get the public to believe it was gbp and mayweather who wer responsible and ofcourse people wud rather believe that than think ther hero never seriously tried to make the biggest fight in history but instead chose to fight a proven cheater
ESPN had called FloyCoy a COWARD.
Yahoo Sports Lole had called FloyCoy a COWARD.
Everybody else on boxing sites is calling him a COWARD.
Poor FloyCoy, boy are you COWARD for not Responding!
Fraud Mayweather is a coward, thats it
@LIESENSOR – Enough with the h0m0 references, dude. How about you say something INTELLIGENT…for once. If you can.
@JesusJones – ODLH was not even involved in the negotiations. Arum and Greenburg have confirmed that. Schaeffer was even taken aback by ODLH statements, wondering where ODLH got his information. ODLH clearly jumped the gun, if he wasn’t completely misquoted, or he was being sarcastic, speaking optimistically about a fight that will seemingly NEVER get made. In any case, he was not involved in the talks. So, how much he really knew about what was going on, is unknown.
Whatever the case, most boxing writers are not buying what Arum is selling. Even pro Arum writers are calling him out, for making a half-hearted attempt to make this fight. They blame Floyd too, for not taking more of a lead on this. But, Team Mayweather has been VERY consistent, in their stance that Floyd has expressed no interest in making another fight this year. And if you trace the trail of quotes back to May 1, you will find that to be true. Everything he’s said (or his team said) since that night has been along the lines of…”I’m taking a hiatus from boxing.”
He laid down his terms on May 1, for ALL future opponents. And in regards to Manny, specifically, he said…”NO TEST, NO FIGHT.” Were his terms met, by Manny? Sources close to Floyd say NO. If his terms were not met, why expect him to fight? You don’t think Manny is willing to walk away from a fight when his terms aren’t met? He did it to both ODLH and Hatton.
These guys don’t do this for the FANS. Not Floyd…not Manny. Hungry fighters like Andre Ward, Tim Bradley, Devon Alexander, Juan Ma Lopez, Nonito Donaire, and even SSM still do this for the fans.
If Floyd and Manny did this for the fans, we would not be seeing Manny in there with Margarito on Nov 13, and a possible Cotto rematch in 2011. And Floyd would not be taking an indefinite leave.
BS Kray, will you stop licking Floyd Jr’s tiny balls! You have no feeling of shame moron.
That should read d/ckhead. Stupid iPhone.
…ryan
P.S. I’m 32 and I’m white and I’m NOT in tge military. Guess that puts me in the BN24 net user minority.
56 year olds don’t use the word d/cobras usually, nor do they usually say peace. Nor do they argue with 15 year olds about boxing.
Either someones not what they claim, or they’re a major Woodstock hippy who likes brutality as a sport.
Either way I’m confused and amused.
Carry on chaps.
…ryan
I SMELL PU$$Y!!! LOL
THE SPORTS OF BOXING HAS ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY. FROM IT’S GOLDEN DAYS TO THE PRESENT.
THE PLAYERS CHANGED BUT THE GAME IS STILL THE SAME.
IF YOU’RE LOOKING FOR MORAL INTEGRITY, LOOK ELSEWHERE.
BOXING IN ITSELF IS NOT A MORAL SPORT.
YOU THINK THERE’S MORALITY IN PUTTING TWO MEN IN A RING WITH ROPES AND LETTING THEM BASH AND BANG EACH OTHER?
THAT IS WHY MANY PEOPLE HAVE PETITIONED THE ABOLITION OF THE SPORTS IN THE PAST.
ARUM, DON KING, nowadays SCHAEFFER, GREENBURG, THEY’RE ALL THE SAME.
BUT THEY HOLD THE STEERING WHEEL.
IF YOU’RE NOT OK WITH THAT, GET OFF AND GET YOURSELF YOUR OWN CAR.
LEARN TO LIVE WITH THAT FACT OR CHOOSE ANOTHER SPORT.
SIMPLE.
ME, I’LL JUST ENJOY THE RIDE FOR WHAT IT’S WORTH.
Its a question of who do you trust more?? Ross Greenburg or L Ellerbe? Ellerbe is calling the shots at Team Mayweather (Shut up Oscar!!!, go with the script we rehearsed)
it might have been arum this time tried to deal directly with team mayweather and his adviser, not going though golden boys production ,that would be under the table,
that way floyd will not have to pay gbp a cut, floyd dont need gbp anymore,
another thing is floyd only fight in the month of may its been 4 fight in may or the month of may -weather
NO ONE PAYS ATTENTION TO WHAT THE FIGHTERS SAY, AT LEAST ON TWO OCCASIONS, MAYWEATHER HAS GONE ON RECORD TO SAY, THAT HE’S NOT FIGHTING THIS YEAR, YET YOU ALL ACT SURPRISED, THAT THE FIGHT IS NOT HAPPENING, WHY?, BECAUSE ARUM TOLD YOU IT WAS?…..DUMMIES
@ F.L.A.-WE-DON’T-PLAY : my brother, you don’t know boxing. hell you probably don’t even know how to fight! we’re you one of those wimpy kid in gradeschool who always got bullied by big guys coz you can’t fight. you think just because a guy is smaller than his opponent means he doesn’t stand a chance? do you have a clue how many guys pacquiao has fought BIGGER THAN HIM??? DLhoya, cotto, clottey, should i keep going? and don’t give me the “they’re all drained out” bull$hit coz these dudes agreed to fight pacquiao “because he’s a midget!” all it takes is one solid punch and the show’s over. where did you get all the none sense comment you wrote, FROM YOUR ASS??? you’re trying to sound intelligent from your comment but actually, you’re giving people the idea that you’re a NUMBNUT. peace.
@F.L.A.-WE-DON’T-PLAY ,
You may look down upon Floyd for fighting Pac, and not fighting one of the other legit WW/ LMW. But, the boxing public won’t allow it.
If Floyd DOES fight PWill or Martinez, but DOESN’T fight Pac, the world will NEVER let him live it down (there will always be excuses no matter who Floyd fights and beats, but most of the public are clamoring for the May-Pac showdown – nothing else will satisfy (no matter how legit it is).
I’m with you though, in wanting to see Floyd fight one of the other legit heavier fighters. I think Pac should clean out the lower divisions before stepping to the plate with Floyd (there’s plenty of talent at 135 and 140 – but I guess that’s not where the money is…).
it’s very very clear who is lying and ducking..and to name names is no longer necessary because as i’ve said it’s very very clear..and to those who doesn’t know is simply just an idiot and brainless..
@Ryan,
Yes, Greenburg was one linchpin in helping the boxing public come to terms with the “negotiation” taking place. Now that he’s spoken up, it certainly lends more creedence to Arum’s position.
I wouldn’t think he would have a hidden agenda either (other than to get both fighters in the ring).
Personally, I would like to hear Haymon’s take on it (we’ve heard just about everybody else’s take), but I understand he’s more fearful of the media than Team May is of Pac…
Also, I like your post to Glover below. I tend to agree that somewhere along the way, everyone may have realized that Team May was looking at 2011 for the summit meeting – but, if Floyd does fight a lesser fighter in 2010, then that’s a problem (and I made that point in another thread to Honest Pac fan – I think).
@Big Lo
Fair enough.
“You can rest assured that I read ALL articles fully before I respond.”
You would be surprised how many don’t.
Also, the fact that we don’t know definitively any details of the contract (purse split, glove size, venue, drug testing, etc.) indicates to me that the important part of the gag order remained in effect.
It wasn’t until the end of the “negotiation” that Arum chirped up and began posturing his fighter to not look like the one running away.
Regarding my point about one side villifying the other. I didn’t say which side was doing it more, but both — in their own ways — definitely like to do this. Why? Because by doing so, you cast the focus away from YOUR fighter, and by proxy end up making your guy look a little bit better, and the other guy a little more shady.
The truth, however, is that this fight should have happened already. The NBC (National Boxing Commission, a fictional organization!!) should have forced them to fight, and enforced proper testing on THEIR side, not at the promoter level.
But who knows why who when where or why these negotiations really fail. It could be as simple as Floyd not wanting to fight right now. That would be nice. But it could be Floyd avoiding a prime Pacquiao. It could be a Pacquiao ducking stringent testing.
Who knows? I’m not making a determination, but i’m sniffing out the evidence and casting a wary eye in the direction of Ellerbe for denying any negotiations took place, then pulling the cheap excuse of a technical term of “negotiation”. If Arum is trying to get a fight together through HBO’s Greenburg, and passing details along to Haymon, and Greenburg corroborates this happening, then I tend to side with Greenburg, who is NOT tied to either side, and benefits greatly by making both sides happy.
You know?
…ryan
@Ryan,
In regards to my post below, let me rephrase the 1st line – you and I are similar in that we try to be OBJECTIVE (I like that word better than “open-minded”.
@Ryan,
You and I are similar in that we try to be open-minded and don’t make it abundantly clear who we are siding with, but we may leave subtle clues. So let me ask you about this post of yours:
“But it does pose some serious questions about how far one side will go to villify the other, no?”
Do you think Ellerbe is either lying or that Team May is trying to villify Team Pac with these 2nd round of negotiations (PED accusations notwithstanding)?
@oskie
Oscar fought the very best fighters in the division his whole career, that´s why he has a number of losses, he never ducked anyone. Obviously you have a lot of personal issues.
@ Peplz
It’s chess not checkers. WMD was invented and fed to a source that leaked it to create a window for an invasion. Kind of like that guy getting that email that said Pacquiao was juicing. Same concept on using the media.
Anywayz, for what it’s worth, HBO needs to flex. The boxing commission needs a reform/overhaul. And what ever happened to other fighters being protected not just the mega fight. Is not interested in boxing the same as not really interested in pursuing drug testing for others. What crusade? The drug testing and money issue is the leverage in this game. One has to give and cant have both. You want blood then take the 50. You want the 60 then lets move on from the blood, but you cant have both.
@Ryan,
About Clinton – It depends on what your definition of the word “is” is – LOL!!
Also, when I said I was aware of what the two sides were quoted as saying, I was referring to what you wrote in your article.
You can rest assured that I read ALL articles fully before I respond (certainly yours – I’m a little skeptical about Matt Stein and Dave Lahr so I don’t really read those articles or post on those threads anymore, but your articles are a bit more thought-provoking…).
Lastly, about this whole Pac/ May fiasco, I’m reserving ANY judgment until I’m confident that I have enough facts. As far as I’m currently concerned, neither side has won me over. But, I can make an easier case that Arum was trying to save face and “negotiate” thru the media by saying some of the things he’s said (instead of saying “no comment”), than I can that Floyd/ Ellerbe are lying or playing games.
I don’t like to make accusatoins without proof, and I don’t think there’s enough proof about who is lying (and in case anybody wants to bring up the fact that Team May is accusing Pac of PED use – I don’t agree with those accusations either because it’s all speculation. But I still wonder why Pac doesn’t just take the test and shut EVERYBODY up – if it’s because he truly feels it will weaken him, then that’s one thing and fairly understandable, but if it’s because he’s on PED’s or because he doesn’t want to bow down to Floyd’s wishes or because his Team is influencing his decison, then that’s something else)
Give it a rest, Ross Greenburg just took out a blow torch and lit this latest batch on nonsense on fire, just sit back, shut up, and watch it burn. Funny thing is the joke’s been on u clowns the whole time, but ur too stupid to see it. Only a moron would believe for one second that negotiations weren’t taking place. What kind of an idiot would believe something like that? You guys need to give it a rest, ur anger should be pointed at ur idol for making all of u look like a bunch of drooling freaks. How can you keep defending a guy who continues to make u look so bad. Personally I think it’s funny as hell, but then again, I’m not the one with floyds jizz on my face.
PACQUIAO-MAYWEATHER…NO COMPARISON
ONE GOD FEARING, THE OTHER IS NOT
ONE IS WHITE, THE OTHER IS BLACK IN SOUL
ONE IS PROFESSIONAL, THE OTHER IS NOT
ONE IS GOOD BOXER, THE OTHER IS BAD BOXING COMMISIONER
ONE IS FAIR THE OTHER IS NOT
ONE HAS MONEY, THE OTHER IS BELIEVING HAS LOT BUT THERE IS NONE
ONE WANYS TO FIGHT, THE IS SCARED
LOVE ONE ANOTHER, HATE THE OTHER.
@Peplz
Floyd doesn´t have to respond, if he doesn´t want to fight, and obviously he doesn´t want to fight. What does either side have to gain by this fight not happening, the answer is nothing, they all lose out on a boat load of money so regardless of how the ´negotiation´s´ were conducted the facts are these.
1. Manny wanting to fight Floyd
2. An offer on the table for Floyd
3. Floyd not wanting to fight Manny
Call it baiting, call it what you want. If Floyd was interested and stepped up to the table and said yeah I want this fight you wouldn´t be saying what your saying but since Floyd didn´t respond you back that angle. If Floyd was saying he wanted to fight Manny and that he had an offer out to his team and Manny didn´t respond you would be all over Arum and Manny, don´t be a hypocrite bro, be real.
For those who dont know the difference between Oscar felehoya and floyd mayweather is that oscar just didnt pull himself completely away from bob arum “they still have ties”, where as on floyd behalf they dont like eachother, reality floyd doesnt like either so there you have it. ODLH and bob shares some of manny money so oscar is not a angel himself, but he sure look pretty in those pink bra and panties, LMAO
@Peplz
If Oscar admitted he was lying then GBP has lost all credibility, by the way where did you read that he admitted to lying?
Negotiations in boxing are rarely textbook, the whole reason a mediator was used was because of how the talks fell apart during the last negotiations. Everyone including people living under rocks were aware of Arum and Pacquiao´s interest to fight Floyd, we were all aware that some type of deal was on the table and we were all aware of the deadline and that includes Floyd. The offer was on the table and Floyd obviously had no interest in the fight, there doesn´t have to be an executive style meetup for this fight to happen but Floyd´s silence, refusal to respond or even address the media speaks volumes.
those were demands from bob not a negotiation.
@cheese wiz
Mind you, that De la Hoya has since admitted that his claims of the fight being close to made were a lie. Ross Greenburg said that he had been negotiating with both sides which is not true negotiations if you ask me but even if he did have a couple of conversations with Al Haymon and Bob Arum, if the negotiations were only Bob Arum and Pacquiao’s acceptable terms and a deadline to agree to them then we can still safely say that there were no negotiations.
@peplz
Come on bro, are you serious? Oscar saying the fight was close to being done would be like Steve Jobs VP saying that the new iPhone was close to being done and come to find out a new iPhone didn´t exist? These guys work in the same company, he´s not going to just say that to say it. The negotiations obviously fell through but to deny they even took place with the obvious facts right in your face just screams of insanity.
@Big Lo
How am I to know what you read or do not read? I take Ellerbe’s comments to be confident in his assessment that he spoke with Haymon and Schaefer and that nothing too place.
Now he’s back pedaling and explaining the subtle art of “negotiation”, sort of like when Clinton claimed he never had “sexxual relations” with “that woman”.
You can believe what you will. I’m not telling you what to think. But it does pose some serious questions about how far one side will go to villify the other, no?
…ryan
If they denied negotiations took place then that means that the demands from fmjr wasnt met basically and yall dumb fans just wanna say “there was a negotiation”, which they know that the steroid talk is damaging their pockets(HBO and whosever else)so fmjr couldnt no longer speak on the matter. For ex., when Jose Canseco accuse alot of the baseball atheletes of using steroids, baseball itself jumps in and demands testing. they didnt care about the money they wanted their fans happy and was sending a message that’s real if you ask me because they was on the verge of doom a couple of years back. this come to show how gansta organized boxing really is and the peopl of boxing is ruthless to the fact of a possible cheater having his way for ex. margacheato, si I rest my case.
my only concern is this: shane mosley not to long ago beat the dog sh$t out of margaritto, if pac is p4p fighter of the decade why is he fighting a man shane knocked out, paul williams beat up, and was clearly cheating even when he faught cotto. why not fight paul williams who called him out, tim bradly who called him out. LISTEN TO ME PAC FANS!!!!! IM NEVER GOING TO BUY RIDICULOUS EVENTS LIKE PAC VS MARGARITTO. BOB ARUM STLOE $50 BUCKS FROM ME WITH THAT CLOTTEY PAC B.S. FOOL ME ONCE SHAME ON YOU, FOOL ME TWICE, SHAME ON ME.
OVER AND OUT, ROGER THAT!!!!!!!!!!
@F.L.A-We-Don’t-Play, haha you’re so blinded by your crush on Floyd. My question was why was 18 days good enough and not 14 when 14 was Floyd’s idea in the first place? what’s changed?
I’ve gone back to see if there was any mention of a gag order from Richard Schaefer or anyone from the Mayweather camp and it turns out that the only ones to ever mention it are Ross Greenburg and Bob Arum himself. All I have ever seen Schaefer say is no comment. And silence does not prove that there was ever any negotiating done. Like I said before, if there was ever any negotiating done Arum would have not felt the need to issue a public ultimatum. Oscar De La Hoya’s embellishment of a fight being close to done just proves that he is trying to promote a fight that has yet to be made and that he and Richard Schaefer are not always on the same page.
Arum said I have had a couple of conversations with Ross and I LAID out all the terms that would be acceptable to OUR SIDE and I also informed him about the concession that Manny had made about drug testing. He got back to me in a couple of weeks and told me he had discussions with Al Haymon, representing Mayweather, and that everything looked good. We were nearing a resolution. The subsequent conversations with Ross detailed to me discussions he had with Al Haymon. Nowhere were the names of Richard Schaefer or Golden Boy mentioned
Definition of Negotiations: mutual discussion and arrangement of the terms of a transaction or agreement.
Doesn’t sound like negotiations every took place…Arum told Greenburgs what he wanted…and he calls that negotiations…LOL…And people still buying this snake…
Yall people wanna keep writing article about who said what about negotiations. this have to do with what was in the negotiations point blank. HBO wants to try and cover manny’s butt cause the simple fact that he doesnt want to take that test and those fools didnt thought that fmjr is a genius for asking for the blood test. they wanna keep thiswaste of time arguement to make M. promotions look bad, that’s what they are spending more time in doing but it doesnt make them look any better then they previously looked. common sense tells me that this fight didnt happen because of 1 reason Random drug test. Yes they made an Idea that manny has agreed but they didnt say specifically what, how. With all this broken hearted “DIVAS” who keep up the talk with no actions is selling boxing short and regaurdless of what happen between them or who’s right or wrong manny needs to fight legit fighters instead of his brothers point blank. We can only go by what they say but I goes by what a person does. Bob arum set his own date when manny fights but it doesnt mean that Nov.13 is suitable for everyone and floyd doesnt have to answer to bob at all never. So bob put pack in with someone that will whoop that head because ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THEN WORDS buddy
@Peplz
Open your eyes and take an unbiased approach. Oscar himself said not long ago that the fight was close to being a done deal, Greenburg just admitted he was in negotiations with both camps. Are both Oscar and Greenburg lying to just cover up Arum? That makes absolutely no sense. Wake up and smell the coffee.
Team mayweather was taking a vacation and relaxing in the amazon jungle where there’s no web site or communications available. That’s why they have no knowledge of da negotiation.
But we went to war and still fighting were not still pointing a finger Bush acted on it. He didn’t sit back and say he was cleaning it up
@F.L.A
Odd how Mayweather NEVER even mentioned drug testing before he was faced with the possibility of fighting Manny, a boxer that Floyd calls one dimensional and essentially a chump. The 40 fighters that Floyd fought previously, manny much bigger than the ´midget´ Manny Pacquiao were good enough to not require testing. If you think you are the best Fighter ever in the history of human beings in the entire Universe as Floyd do you NEED to require random drug testing for a one dimensional chump of a fighter that you can beat with one hand? Does that follow any line of logic or rational reasoning?
It´s like Mike Tyson demanding drug testing against Peter McNeely just because he wants to clean up the sport. Take an unbiased approach for a minute and it´s easy to see how it makes no sense for Floyd to take this approach. Blood testing 14 days before a fight and immediately after the fight is about as good as you can get, Floyd can´t possibly be SO worried that if Floyd has even 2 days to inject some wonder drug he could possibly beat Floyd. It´s just ridiculous.
Should Manny just take any test required and beat Floyd regardless, of course, but we are dealing with huge egos and nobody wants to give in but Floyds demands ONLY when faced with a fight with Manny stinks to the high heavens and anyone that can´t smell a rat is completely biased.
Why won’t Arum speak about what they “agreed” to in these alleged ongoing negotiations??
See my articles when the 1st fight got cancelled. I explained in full details why his name should be Poultry Boy Floyd and sometimes also Poultry Boy Fraud. I continued again when he was refusing to sign to fight Mosley.
But indeed that is funny Mr. Anonymous AKA The Sioux Warrior. I love to see creativity!
It’ll be on when Floyd agrees until then Paq can call him out all they want and Floyd won’t fight until Roger’s ordeal has been determined so Maybe never if Rog is up the creek
Fights like Mayweather vs. Pacquiao are significant because of these fighters’ ability to connect with sports fans around the world. It’s unfortunate that it won’t happen in 2010. I had been negotiating with a representative from each side since May 2nd, carefully trying to put the fight together. Hopefully, someday this fight will happen. Sports fans deserve it.”
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GPB and Mayweather just got caught with Egg all over their face.
@What?
Did you read this part? ( Mayweather Team saying no negoatiotions took place)
Soon after this press conference, however, Leonard Ellerbe — Mayweather’s advisor and conditioning coach — stated that negotiations never took place at all. In Haymon’s own words:
“Here are the facts. Al Haymon, Richard Schaefer and myself speak to each other on a regular basis and the truth is no negotiations have ever taken place nor was there ever a deal agreed upon by Team Mayweather or Floyd Mayweather to fight Manny Pacquiao on November 13. Either Ross Greenburg or Bob Arum is not telling the truth, but history tells us who is lying.”
@Ryan,
Thanks for reposting an excerpt from your article (in response to my post), but I’m fully aware of what Ellerbe (and Greenburg) are quoted as saying. However, if Haymon isn’t relaying the negotiation progress back to Ellerbe, then Ellerbe won’t be aware (imagine Haymon telling Greenburg that everything looks good, but not giving the info to Floyd or Ellerbe because Floyd is on vacation – this is more speculation, but Haymon could be waiting until Floyd returns from wherever he is ala Puerto Rico to discuss anything. But, I really don’t want to get into speculation).
Why won’t Arum speak about what they “agreed” to in these alleged ongoing negotiations?
Pac did agree to random drug testing, up to 14 days before the fight and immediately after the fight. When Floyd and Shane got tested it stopped 18 days before the fight. Why was that good enough for Floyd but Manny’s offer of 14 isn’t?. Also Floyd only got tested 5 times whereas Shane got tested 6 times. Hmmm strange….
First, I admire or appreciate the honesty of writer Dunn who is fair and objecti in his write-ups or articles. His phrase,”Mayweather and Paquiao, No. 1 & No. 2 pound for pound (whoever your prefer)”, shows his fairness and objectivity.
Now, who is the one lying in all the parties to the agreement? The Mae Weeders, of course. Because, all the while that the other parties are honestly trying to make the fight for several weeks and us fans salivating for the result of the negotiations, little boy floyde was silent enjoying every bit of their wasted time – just to say later that he is not interested to fight this year. What a deciever this guy is. HBO should ban him in its telecast. He just wasted our time. What if there was no deadline given to him? Then, he just left us out in the cold for the next 6 months waiting for his response that is he knows is not coming.
Cat got Floyd´s tongue? The man who can´t shut his trap EVER suddenly is silent with the biggest paycheck of his life staring him in the face. Silence is worth a million words and I think the only Crackweather not afraid of Manny is Floyd ¨i´m nuts¨ Sr. As for his son…he´s on vacation. Well enjoy that vacation Floyd, you have said more with no words than you could have with a million…you´re scared.
Main Entry: pacquiao
Pronunciation: \ˈpac-ˌquiao also ˈpacman-\
Function: noun
Etymology: International Scientific Vocabulary juice + cheater
Date: 1926
: any of various compounds containing a 17-carbon 4-ring system and including the sterols and numerous hormones (as anabolic steroids or corticosteroids) and glycosides
— pacmaning or pac·quiao \pac–quiao\ adjective
“dont be a pacquiao” “fight fair, dont pac”
“barry bounds got caught pacing”
Why is Floyed Mayweather afraid to fight Manny Pacquaio? He and his associates might be seeing something that many of us don’t.
All I will say to the Mayweather camp is don’t bite the hand that feeds you! That hand is Greenburg and HBO.
V dog
The only source for that quote is from an LA Times Blog.
They’re been running quotes like that for the last week. No other media outlet has picked them up.
I’d suggest either an LA Times blogger keeps getting the scoop of the century, or he’s making them up to get reads.
The same guy posted a Greenburg quote from last week. Complete BS
Oh I forgot Marquez…I haven’t heard one thing from PAC. Floyd is on record saying he hasn’t heard or seen anything. Meaning that al haymon never showed his team this “contract”. Possibly because it was pointless to do so cuz the money wasn’t right and/or the testing wasn’t agreed upon. U ppl need to get ur foot off the gas. None of u were with any of these men while this was taking place so stop acting like u had a tap on these promoters phones….by the way…these ppl are all in the boxing business!!! MEANING THEYRE ALL LIARS lol
Floyd Mayweather Jr. camp responds to HBO, Arum comments
July 27, 2010 | 6:42 am
Hours after the president of HBO Sports said he had negotiated with both sides in an effort to make a Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. mega-fight on Nov. 13, Mayweather’s lead adviser again denied the claim.
“Floyd is his own boss, calling his own shots,” Leonard Ellerbe told The Times on Monday night.
HBO Sports President Ross Greenburg said in a prepared statement earlier Monday that he indeed had discussed the fight with representatives of both Pacquiao and Mayweather in an effort to make a bout that would match the repeat fighter of the year from the Philippines with unbeaten Mayweather.
The mediation failed, and Pacquiao proceeded to a replacement fight against Antonio Margarito on Nov. 13 at a site to be determined. The bout will be for the vacant WBS super-welterweight title, possibly Pacquiao’s record eighth weight-division world title.
Ellerbe has said someone, either Arum or Greenburg, is “lying” if they believe Mayweather has participated in negotiations to fight. That point was effectively repeated Monday by Richard Schaefer, the Golden Boy Promotions executive who had been called upon in the past to assist Mayweather in fight negotiations.
Ellerbe said neither Mayweather nor his representatives ever entered into anything beyond cursory conversation with Greenburg. Ellerbe said Mayweather was doing what he had been since defeating Shane Mosley on May 1: taking time off to enjoy his life, his family and participate in other personal functions, as he said in this independent video June 2.
“This whole thing is getting blown out of proportion,” Ellerbe said. “Floyd made it clear what his intentions were, after the fight … and again in an interview last week. He’s on vacation.
“Obviously, the parties making these statements need to understand what the term ‘negotiation’ really means. Calling to ask Floyd what he’s thinking about doing is not a negotiation. How … can you have a negotiation when the principal has made it clear he’s not interested in doing anything at this time.”
That certainly doesn’t sit well with the boxing public, which has clamored for Mayweather-Pacquiao, but it should be noted “Money” earned about $65 million in two fights, in the September 2009 bout against Juan Manuel Marquez and the Mosley bout.
Ellerbe said he wasn’t worried about Arum’s claims that it’s “unpardonable” to “lie to the press,” as he said Ellerbe had done in previously insisting there were no negotiations. There’s no love lost between Mayweather and his former promoter.
“I pay absolutely no attention to what Arum says,” Ellerbe said. “He’s just bitter because Floyd left him to become his own boss and has gone on to make $125 million since.”
So when will Mayweather fight again? Apparently, whenever he wakes up one day and decides to. “When the time is right, it’ll be right,” Ellerbe said. “It’ll be very simple.”
That’ll be something to see, after one prior collapsed negotiation in January and now this month’s failed whatever-you-want-to-call-it.
– Lance Pugmire
Wow the article says it. We have a pu$$y camp period!!! And wht we do with pu$$y??? Real playa knows!!!
Q
you are totally right. The argument they are having is what a negociation is.
Arum claims they negociated and agreed on terms. And has been totally unable to even verbally give details about what was agreed.
I think that it’s pretty obvious that this claim is BS.
Michael Marley claimed very early, that they had initial talks, but never moved into serious negociations.
He claimed that Arum sent Pacquiao’s demands, and GBP weren’t very impressed, so declined them.
And that’s it. Neither party would move an inch from there
all this talk about ducking and none of u can say with a clear honest heart that u know PAC agreed to complete random testing. No one can say that! That issue is the sticking point to the entire neogotations. No one knows what was in the contract intelled. NONE OF U!!! Yet u excuse the other of ducking. Well *NEWS FLASH* in the sane manner guys use to call out Floyd, new guys are calling out PAC and PAC (arum) if giving them the stiff. Williams, Bradley, berto just to name a few. But anyway back to the neogotiations, we know no contract details , no evidence that random drug testing all the way thru was agreed on but u automatically place blame on Floyd smh
Ash
Mayweather will be nearly 35 by the time they fight in 2011.
I don’t think Pacquiao can complain that he’s “past his prime”.
Mayweather’s prime was about 5 years ago
there is a difference between, trying to negotiate and negotiating. it’s probably true that greenburg attempted to talk to both sides about a fight, but if certain points in the fight did not appeal to either side and could not be situated, then it would not be a true negotiation, just a talk between the two fighters about a fight, but not a negotiation like ellerbe said..
This is Eastside Boxings account. Based on their own sources, in either camp. It’s very similar to Michael Marleys, who also claimed Top Rank people spoke to me.
They talked. Not negociated. They basically started stage one of the process. Just setting out what they both want from the fight.
Pacquiao was unwilling to move much on drug testing (according to eastside and Marley), and Mayweather wasn’t willing to pay him 50%.
Arum sent Haymon what Pacquiao wanted from the fight, and GBP turned it down.
Arum then broke the gag order, and spent the next 4 weeks briefing the media, trying to make out that he had an agreement, and he was waiting on the other guys.
The problem being, Arum’s agreement was just him sending his demands to the other side.
GBP have stayed silent, and largely ignored it, as like Arum, they probably actually want the bout in 2011, and they know full well that “floyd hating” is a much better way to sell a fight, than fans just getting bored with the process.
End of argument.
Look at Greenburgs quote. Does he say a deal was agreed? Or close? Or even discussed.
All he says is that both sides talked for a bit, and they couldn’t get anything done.
“Of course negotiations took place, the only one’s who believed they didn’t were delusional floyd fans who’d believe the earth was flat if mayweather said so. I mean give me a break HOW STUPID CAN U BE???”
As stupid as Pacquiao fans who think that “an agreement was reached”.
Seriously. They talked. That’s about stage 1 of doing a deal.
Arum played the media to try and claim he was at about stage 8.
Arum played the media trying to claim that there was an agreement, and negociations did get close. When the truth was his own fighter was just as much at fault for not getting it done, as Mayweather
Does Greenburg even say an agreement was reached?
Does he say that both side agreed to anything?
All he says is that he spoke to both sides, and they didn’t get an agreement made.
Arum lied, in claiming that the bout had been agreed. It hadn’t. He just wanted to make it look like Mayweather was the one not playing along, when it was his own uy who wouldn’t move an inch on drug testing.
Seriously. Manny isn’t going to get 50%. And he will have to take drug tests.
If he doesn’t want either of that, then the fight won’t happen
The problem I have with writers on sites like this, that depend on getting a lot of hits.
They just have a message they want to say, no matter what the facts say, as they are worried about alienating half of Asia.
The fight never happened, as there was never any agreement, or real negociations. They didn’t come close to agreeing to anything.
Eastside boxing are reporting, according to their own sources that drugs, or money was nowhere near to being agreed, and neither fighter made any concessions.
So the fight didn’t happen. End of. Just like Christmas
@ Big Lo
“Did Haymon relay the info to Ellerbe (and Floyd Jr – but more importantly Ellerbe, since he’s the one who said there were no negotiations)?”
According to Ellerbe’s own words:
“Al Haymon, Richard Schaefer and myself speak to each other on a regular basis and the truth is no negotiations have ever taken place…”
@Glover
Floyd is taking a break, and he never said the terms were unagreeable to him, so we don’t know what Arum sent over as far as terms. We likely never will, so why speculate?
Floyd didn’t even acknowledge he received any offer, but in the past he was happy to tell you when an opponent sent unfavorable terms. I remember him saying Baldomir outbid himself the first time they were negotiating to fight, when Floyd fought Judah.
Also, Floyd may want to only fight once a year for tax purposes, you never know.
I just get the feeling that this fight is destined to happen in May, if at all. Manny set the November fight date, not Floyd, and Floyd doesn’t want to fight in November.
Now… if Floyd ends up fighting this Fall/Winter, then he will have some explaining to do.
…ryan
If pacquiao da one that came out and say I’m taking a vacation, relaxing not thinking about boxing right now. Mayweather fans would’be been all over da web right now. Where’s all da pacquiao fans bragging? Only a few, that shows me that pacquiao fans have a lot of respect for Floyd and the boxing sport that we love.
@Ryan
But what is really gonna change between this year and the next. Floyd is still gonna want the higher purse split and full random drug test with no cutoffs. And if Top Rank aren’t willing to concede to either then where will that leave this fight. Right back to square one. So what will change?
I’m tired of Mayweather and his antics, it’s too bad because to be honest love him or hate him the guy is a good boxer. It’s too bad he’s got all the skills in the world but no heart.
There’s absolutely no question now that Floyd ducked Pacquiao. Team Mayweather got caught with their pants down when Greenburg came out with this statement.
so which is which? damn i really want to see those two in the ring..
@Glover
Actually, the more I read, the more I believe that halfway through these negotiations, all parties may have agreed to fight in May. This is reflected in Greenburg saying “this year”, Arum’s persistent talking point about Floyd not wanting to fight “this year,” and Floyd himself saying he’s not thinking about boxing “right now”, but he has admitted in an interview with 50 Cent that he plans to partake in the biggest boxing event in history.
…ryan
@suntellmoe,
From Floyd’s perspective, he listed his requirements loud and clear. If Arum put together a contract that doesn’t meet his requirements, why would he entertain that? He may feel that there’s no point in going back and forth with Arum, either Arum comes to the table with a contract that meets his requirements, or it’s ON TO THE NEXT ONE…
I tend to agree with Glover’s post below. If Floyd doesn’t think that he needs Pac (and it appears that’s how he feels), then he won’t play these games (much like Pac feels that he doesn’t need Floyd, so he’s not playing Floyd’s game).
and how come floyd so silent about this speculations, tho hes great but his trashtalking is greater, he should have shouted about whats inside the contract, about the negotiations and the involved, but going silent all of the sudden?
@Ryan
It isn’t hard to see what happened. If Top Rank had agreed to Floyd’s terms then this fight would have been signed. But since that had a take it or leave it approach, then Mayweather just ignored them. Simple as that. That is exactly how it played out.
This still doesn’t mean the money arum offered was acceptable. It can’t be 50/50. That was fine in January but not hood enuff after FM doubled PAC ppv numbers
The one lingering question that I have is:
“did Haymon relay the info to Ellerbe (and Floyd Jr – but more importantly Ellerbe, since he’s the one who said there were no negotiations)”?
As I’ve stated a few times before, the negotiations could have been between Arum, Greenburg, and Haymon (not including Floyd and Ellerbe). Ellerbe is either uninformed or lying (I understand that there are riffs in the Mayweather camp, Ellerbe doesn’t get along with Roger and vice versa, and I’ve heard Haymon doesn’t get along with Ellerbe).
i just don’t understand why floydy’s fans become blinded or deaf ear?…
what are they? STUPID or something?… or just playing DUMB..
@Anonymous
who is he NARUTO? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
MIDGETS RELAX…MAYWEATHER WILL KICK THE PINOYS ASS…IN TIME…IN TIME!
SIT BACK AND RELAX UNTIL THE FIRE IN MAYWEATHERS’ BELLY STARTS BURNING AND THE LION WAKES UP!
TELL TH
@eddy_boy
so you mean when vargas fought dela hoya he won?coz vargas used drugs that time…you speaking skill? yes manny will knock him out just in 3 rounds..
@coward , Had Mosely still been on drugs, he would have finished Mayweathers. Mosely is dangerous which is why Manny don’t want to go near him. Manny would need more than tempo to hurt Mosely…He will need skill, Mayweathers showed it…Can Manny? Probably not to be honest.
hbo’s greenburg confirmation means floyd and all his teammates are cowards. lmao.
why isnt the WBA taking flak for agreeing to this?
fight fine, but you cant justify the belt
hahaha who are the Floyd fans gonna blame now? you people are running out of excuses
de la joya: not a good lier
schaefer : not a good lier
ellerbe : good lier
arum : lied sometimes
haymon : force to lie.
floyd ; lier and a coward
geenburg : no reason to lie
pacquiao : just doing his job
You decide who’s telling the truth about the negotiation.
@eddy_boy
mosley is better way before, not anymore today..when mosley fought margarito he’s really good and i dont know why he passed out when he fought mayweather.do you have an idea why mosley stop puching when he hurt mayweather? at start of the 3rd round do you know how many punches mosley did? i think he’s getting old or he sold the fight.isint it?
@eddy_boy.. even if its 70-30 in favor of floyd with random blood testing every rounds..still the fight wont happen..coz one of em dont wanna fight.
@S.Warrior: Keep posting, man. That was really funny stuff. LOL!
Genius!!! LOL!!!
Manny, stop taking drugs and 60/40 split in Mayweather’s favour, then we have a fight…Bob Arum can’t get his man to know his place and take 40%. That is the key issue.
Anyway, why doesn’t Manny fight Mosely? Margarita was destroyed by Mosely who was subsequently destroyed by Mayweathers. That would make more in PPV than his boring performance against Joshua Clottey.
Any Manny fans think he should fight Mosely? (
@ LMAO:
I absolutely agree with you, all the fighters you mentioned are very good – especially Sergio Martinez. However, aside from the fighter – they are looking after the interest of people as well. As much as I hate to see Margarito ‘rewarded’ with a fight against one of the best boxers in this era, I still think that it would sell – for a few main reasons: people who disliked Margarito after the cheating incident would watch him to get himself beaten up; people who have stayed in faith with Margarito’s talent will watch the fight (a lot of Mexicans in and outside the US) and obviosuly, the thousands of Pacquiao fans – who may not be as big as Mayweathers fan-camp but still greater than Williams’, Martinez’s, Bradley’s, and Berto’s put together. Again, please correct me if I’m wrong.
hahahaha…
please someone fill me !
y’all so obsessed with pbf. ever occured to you that he doesn’t give a rat’s tail about arum and pacquiao?
Recent Survey:
Poll Question – Who didn’t know the negotiations existed?
The list:
1. The Vatican
2. The Swahili Tribe of Africa
3. Lonesome George in the Galapagos Island
4. Leonard Ellerbe
5. Richard Schaeffer
THE MAYWEATHER CAMP JUST GOT EXPOSED AGAIN, AS PATHOLOGICAL LIARS!!!!!
Warrior, You’re frakin Genius man,
@lacem up
for money my friend, money….now manny has a new name, manny “moneyman” pacquiao LOL!! go kiss floyds ass idiot! no where to run…
@LMAO
you floydiots are now getting more dumb..what’s with you people, keep backing up floyd that now the whole world knows who’s the ducker and liars…keep it up, maybe one day floyd will give you a medal hahahaha!!
@ Sioux
LMAO! That was great!
@ Peplz
It’s funny how you used Saddam Hussein in your statement. Here are his first words after the coward was found hiding in a hole on the ground.
“My name is Saddam Hussein. I am the president of Iraq, and I want to negotiate.”
Saddam Hussein
Best use another, this one aint working in your favor.
I hope Manny and freddy come up with the right strategy for his next fight, to take on as little damage as possible.
It’s quite obvious what’s going on here, whilst Pacquiao is still fresh and relatively young, Floyd isn’t too sure of his chances and is playing the waiting game (a favourite tactic of Mayweather). He’s hoping that Pacquiao will take some edge off his prime, by being embroiled in another war, then suddenly he can appear (as if by magic) to mop up the pieces and lay claim to greatness (as he did with Mosley and tried to do with Kostya Tszyu).
I’m not a massive fan of Pacquiao, but I certainly have more respect for a fighter who shows the levels of humility and honesty that he does. Pacquiao doesn’t make exaggerated claims of greatness, the majority tend to do that for him!
Everybody in the boxing world are trying to negotiate the fight between Pacquiao and Mayweather but if one is not willing to fight, then nobody can do anything about it. Its very clear from the start “the world famous boxer” Floyd Mayweather jr is trying his very best to avoid a fight with Manny Pacquiao, He got his plan from A to Z how to avoid this fight. How could you force a coward to fight? That’s what this negotiator has to solve. Floyd Mayweatrher jr will never fight Manny Pacquiao at his prime. He is scared and he is a coward. Floyd Mayweather jr is a big COWARD. COWARD TO THE BONES.
Golden Boy and Team Mayweather are really LIARS!!!!
They just try to bully Manny especially he is an Asian fighters and not won in pursuing to be their promoters.If you really want to have a Fight on the century push trough maybe Golden also have mobile phones to also try to call Arum or Ross to make the fight happened it’s not only one way around.They just want also this fight to happend because Mayweather calls the shot.I dont think Golden boy will just wait for their phones to ring before starting the talks on the fight.I Truly Deeply believe their were really talks.Even Richard Sheifer told before Mayweather and Shane Mosley fight that Ross or Arum will hear from him after May 1 fight.So really they just want to justify their lying just to have the peace of mayweather wealth so even is is NOT ” the right thing to do” it’s ok as long as they protect their interest.This bullyistic attitude of Team Mayweather will no be for not.Pacman oesnt need them.Mayweather retired and now pacman is the P4P king and then mayweather comes back and tells that he is again the P4P king.If you want to have it back to you Floyd earn it again.You only have two figths 1 in every year they you claim your the best.You always make your rules.Just to make all the advantage to you.Pacman want to fight as long as fair.You father floyd sr. also tells to many bad words and racial slur at pacman but pacman never even bothers because you both not on their his level.you just want pacman to say bad things so you can respond and gain advanatge the pacman is really the bad guy.Common Flod just tell if you want to fight or not.If you as pacman anytime he will say as long as promoters agree he want sto fight but your team always makes excuses and waits for 3 days after pacman is finding a new opponent then comes up with make-up stories.Ross is the President of HBO the integrity of his name and company tuns to it.He will pass it on to his family the doing the right thing even those team mayweather or Golden B will not use HBO is huge blow as long you have clear conscience, fight what is right and you can sleep well in all honesty and pass on this values to others and make them also do the right thing.Al haymon,and GBP are all LIARS I hope the verdict on the case of manny will make them pay.Same as Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie who wins on their case on the tabloid because of the tabloids lying that they are separated.So what they done bullying to pacman will now be vindicated.Just do the right thing Floyd! Your lying Team must stop and if not it will end sooner and it is now coming!
Evey one rags on floyd mayweather, WHY? he fought two of the highest ranked fighters in the last year…I dont think i heard one person say marquez was too small or mosley too old BEFORE mayweather fought them..why is margarito pac for a title? who did margo beat to be called a champion? why are they even fighting if margo got caught cheating? how much other sneky stuff going on at top rank??
RE: Revision and correction.
Wiki Article, sub: Mayweather.
“Section -*1a”; The words “it’s”, corrected as follows: “its”.
End of Revision.
@ Kray
After all of what you have said, what’s your take on Oscar statement that the negotiation is ongoing and the fight is close to being made. That was in June. He retracted those very same statement recently.
With Oscar statement, it showed his enthusiasm regarding the mega fight and his confidence that certain demands are being met in order to appease Floyd Jr. Oscar must really felt confident that Floyd is really going to fight Pacquiao if his demands were met. He himself felt it was going to happen. Mind you that GBP is in the hot seat with HBO as well. Now Floyd Jr is not thinking about boxing and there goes the back pedaling by Oscar himself. Now they Oscar, GBP and Floyd’s handlers now have to please Floyd and save him from humiliation from the public and the media and have concocted a group lie to save the Floyd Brand.
“History is a set of lies agreed upon”
Napoleon Bonaparte
@Sioux Warrioir-
Dude, fell off my chair when I read that. LOL!
@SIOUX Warrior:
LOL!!! LOL!!!
I pee’d in my pants laughing at that “wiki”.
HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!
If Pac Man wants a fight that well A) earn him a lot of money and B) be resonable easy, why doesn’t he give Hatton a re-match?
Now that he has won the European title, he is on the way back up, so there is justification for him to have a world title shot, but given what happened before, Pac Man should pick up a nice bit of cash for three rounds of work.
All I know is that no matter how chummy Arum and Greenburg are they both look stupid. Because the fact that there was ever a Bob Arum contrived “deadline” is proof positive that no negotiations ever occurred. This deadline kind of reminds me of the one that was given to Saddam Hussein before the famous preemptive strike. The point is that by issuing a public ultimatum that most assuredly will not be met Bob Arum has once again shown that he was never interested in negotiating. He’s lucky to have friends in high places like Ross Greenburg to bail him out when he finds himself in a pickle. I guess that’s why he feels like he doesn’t need to negotiate with ” a guy like Mayweather” no matter how much leverage Mayweather has gained in the sport.
the Sioux Warrior is a writer 100 times better than Dave Lahr and Chris Williams! Keep writing, man….BN24 will be more entertaining.
It is time for HBO to throw its weight around and sanction the Mayweather camp. These people, including the Golden Boy Promotions are doing a disservice to all boxing fans.
@the sioux warrior.
PURE GENIUS!
ROFLMAO!!!!
HAHAHAHAH!!!
Arum will stick to having Pacquiao fight old washed up legends or limited slow fighters at catchweights whilst being practically handed world titles. It is a disgrace to boxing.
Berto is the undefeated WBC welterweight champ.
Paul Williams is a great fighter.
Martinez is also a great fighter.
Bradley is undefeated.
But insteadc we get Margarito who has fought once in 2 years and was brutally KO’d by Mosley whilst being exposed as a cheat. How on earth is this fight for a world title? Margarito hasn’t earned his shot and Pacquiao isn’t even fighting at the official weight. Arum/Pacquiao/Roach really are a disgrace, ducking top fighters whilst getting advantages.
that’s right. floyd belongs to poultry family. he protects his 0, like a hen protecting her egg.
@The Siuox Warrior:
Ha! ha! ha!
That’s hilarious!!!
I really couldn’t care for the politics of boxing… who gets what moeny and who gives this or that amount of blood…
I’m a boxing fan (decreasingly so) and I want to see this fight like all other boxing fans. It is pretty clear to all that if Mayweather wanted this fight it would be a done deal… but anyone with half a brain can see that he is scared of losing, and he knows Pacman has got just as good a chance as him to win… he is therefore a coward, plain and simple… fighters are supposed to want to fight the best, but he never steps in the ring with the best…
And no, I’m not a ‘Pacfan’, I’m neutral, but that doesn’t therefore mean I can’t see who’s to blame here… not HBO, not promoters, not trainers… no… Mayweather…
Didn’t Ellerbe say NO NEGOTIATIONS were taking place, when asked in both May and June? Yes, he did. And he said it again in July. So, didn’t that raise anyone’s eyebrow as to what was really going on with the negotiations? Why is that people continue to ask why Team Mayweather waited for the deadline to pass to speak up, when they clearly spoke up on two separate occasions long before the deadline? And after the deadline, they simply reiterated what had been said in the two months prior.
But, since Team Pacquiao was doing most of the talking in the media, despite this gag order they kept preaching about, and setting BS deadlines and what not, many assume that Floyd is supposed to react to that.
Why are people surprised that Floyd’s not playing along this time? I’m sure he knows, as he’s said on many occasions, that all roads lead to him. He knows that Manny wants that fight, and Manny will eventually, do what he know he needs to to do, to make that fight happen, or miss out. Fighting Top Rank has beens does nothing for him.
Floyd wants that fight too…for MONEY. But, he just made $40 million. So, he’ll come around when he’s ready to make another big fight.
I was the anonymous.
Forgot to type my name in.
Poultry Boy Floyd and the wiki article.
“Poultry” Boy Floyd.
@anonymous…..hahahahahahahahaha…
Wikipedia – Mayweather
(This section refers to the creature. To see verb eg., mayweather verb (coward) For other uses, see ‘duck’[(disambiguation)]. “Floydus Duckus Domesticus” redirect here. For other subspecies, see “Floydus Gallus Domesticus”.)
Mayweather is a strange hybrid creature whose roots of evolution are from from the duck and the hen. It is one of the noisiest creature in the wild. One distinguishing feature is it’s fear. It makes a lot of noise with it’s mouth, but when confronted, runs away as fast and as far away as it could, then hides itself. The shrill noise when at roost is comparable to that of a duck but when escaping from danger, the noise it emits reminds zoologist of the cluck of a hen..
One other particular feature is that the creature’s reproductive organs shrink to the point of vanishing altogether as the creature ages.
The only species in existence in which the male parent’s characteristics differ so much from its offsprings, that zoologists have designated them as Floydus Seniorus and the Floydus Juniorus.
The male parent (Floydus Seniorus) is considered one of the most disgusting creatures in the wild. It feeds on decomposing meat, then regurgitates it when confronted. The overwhelming stench that spews from its mouth is a part of its defensive mechanism. Never needing to take flight, it continues to spew filth from its mouth even when faced with danger (eg. lawsuits,etc.)
Scientists and zoologist are still doing some reasearch on another peculiar subspecies – the Unclus Rogerus Lunaticus.
And they are hoping to capture it and implemet further experiments in captivity to study and understand its aggressive behavior towards females.
For further information, see links.
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@ Manny if Pacquiao really is on steroids i hope he catches roid rage and beat arums ass. I hate seeing arum sit ring side watching pacquiao fight with that dum smirk on his face, he makes me sick. Robing that poor hard working pacquiao and im not even a fan of pacquiao. Still messed up tho.
Ross Greenburg Tried to Put the Mayweather/Pacquiao Fight Together…….. And then he woke up.