Pacquiao vs. Margarito: Bob Arum’s Big Mistake
July 29th, 2010
By Christian Ramos: Nobody wants to see it. Bob Arum doesn’t care. But, unless a miraculous turn of events comes about, Manny Pacquiao and Antonio Margarito are on their way to fighting each other on November 13.
From a boxing point of view, having Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather fight next year actually buys the sport another year’s worth of fans and publicity. Think about it, if they fight and Floyd wins, it would be the 6th time Manny Pacquiao was in the ring and did not win. Floyd would go on to be the greatest of this era, and PacMan would be considered to be an overrated and protected fighter. Floyd would then retire and Pacquiao’s buzz is over. If Pacquiao wins, that would buy the sport another year and half with rematches, but sadly, and not taking anything away from the Philippines’ Icon, Manny’s chances are not as great from a technical standpoint. Unfortunately, no matter how much talent the sport has at the moment, and it does have much, the public demand for boxing only cares for Mayweather vs. Pacquiao.
I do believe Antonio Margarito has horrifically poor defense. Manny Pacquiao also has tremendous speed and punching accuracy, but how much power would be behind those punches if his body were not moving forward into the punch? Manny is a very small man and would not be fighting a 140 pound Ricky Hatton or a dehydrated Oscar. Margarito is a solid 154. The Cotto win for Pacquiao was very impressive, but Miguel’s pressure is in no way similar to Margarito’s. Margarito is very willing to eat shots to apply his pressure, while Cotto is cautiously looking for the trap. Pacquiao was able to side-step and then move forward into his shots. How realistic is it to believe that Margarito will give him the breathing room?
Have Pacquiao and Arum bitten off more than they can chew? I too am a heavy critic of Margarito landing this fight. He is not an active fighter against the top P4P, and therefore, other top talents such as Bradley, Williams and Martinez should get the opportunity at Pacquiao. This is in no way a prediction of the fight. However, hate him or love him, Margarito has a reasonable shot at winning this fight. The boxing world has criticized, ridiculed, and even hated Margarito for his illegal antics. I would hate to imagine how people were to react if he were to spoil the greatest fight in the sport’s history.
*Side Note: I sure hope that the bad publicity works for Margarito. With all of Margarito’s controversies and Pacquiao’s publicity, if Manny Pacquiao does not manage to sell 1 million Pay per Views, how would he even ask for 50-50 from Mayweather? This fight might actually be a lose/lose situation for Bob Arum and Team Pacquiao.
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No one can beat Pacquiao even at Middleweight.ok.Nov.13 is another bad day for Antonio Margaritto.Even Valuev can beat by Pacquiao…
i got your idea…but manny pacman pacquiao is a tremendous fighter… And he is now fully developed complete boxing fighter… No one in this world can beat him….No one….in his weight class….Mayweather is just like a cowardly soldies who doesn’t want to lose any fight…. He’s just afraid to manny….
F.L.A.-WE-DON’T-PLAY LET ME SEE PACMAN DESTROYED DE LA HOYA DESTROYED HATTON WHEN MAYWEATHER WAS RACING AND DANCING AROUND THE RING WITH DE LA HOYA AND HAD STUPID HATTON KO HIMSELF OUT AGAINST THE CORNER SO TELL ME AGAIN Y IS PINK FLOYED BETTER THAN PACMAN WHEN PACMAN HAS DONE EVERYTHING PINK FLOYD HAS DONE AND MORE WITH CROWD PLEASING FIGHTS
If you consider avoiding contact and landing pitter patter punches,technical skills, you are wrong, pacquiao did fight clottey. I bet Garcia can take a better punch than little floyd. Why didn’t floyd ever get in the ring with Margarito? He fought Mosely off the steroids, clearly, Mosely was tired in 4 rounds. Had he been juiced up, he probaly would have knocked out little floyd in the 2nd round. And if the fight is so easily one sided for pac, than why are they asking Margarito to lose 4 pounds of muscle? At least pacquiao is not a coward he doesn’t avoid worthy competition. And that’s why floyd will never be considered the best of his era, and never amongst the best in the sport, his cowardice in avoiding worthy competition.
Whats with the notion of a catch weight? whats Pacquiaos camp afraid of. Margaritos power apparently came from his loaded gloves, right. So why request Margarito lose four pounds of muscle. In case any one didn’t know, Garcia (margaritos last opponent) has one hell of a chin, Margarito hasn’t lost any power. Face it, he lost to a roided out Mosely, who punches harder than Pacquiao. Mosely off the steroids would have lost to Margarito, His performance against floyd proves that, he got tired in 4 rounds. Margarito will land hard shots on pacquiao, and another thing, pacquiao has never been hit by someone like Margarito, we will see how solid his chin is. The only saving grace for pacquiao is his speed.
Poor and erroneous analysis ocomments of wwriter. First, Pacman is not an overrated and protected fighter. He had fought the best of every division as he progresses in his career. That is why he is in such a level at this point, enjoying the popularity anyone could imagine of – as a result of his achievements. Second, writer claims Marg the cheater lasted 12 rounds with Moseley. That is not right. God KOD!
Third, Margarito’s style is made to order for Pacman, as athe cheater comes in, the left counter shots of Manny will connect on Marg’s Moseley=baroken chin. Pacman will not be backing up, but will do a side-to-side, in and out battle. Good but futile attempt by writer, anyway!
Floyd beat Oscar, that’s a laugh. Everybody knows Floyd won the race decision in that fight. Floyds eye was almost swollen shut after the fight with De la Hoya, and Oscar hardly had a mark on his face because he never got hit with a single decisive punch. But, alas, Oscar was never a slave, he lost, to a cheap decision.
ignorant fools, I appreciate the valor and honor a boxer displays when exchanging blows, not running around a ring avoiding blows. Sure floyd lands blows, but to consider pitter patter effective punching is outright lunacy. Defensive skill is an admirable quality, but when used to blatantly avoid contact, it is not boxing, it’s called cowardice. One thing I know Margarito wont be in the ring, is a coward. I would rather pay to see Margarito fight Pacquiao than watch floyd avoid being hit the whole fight, and call it “sweet science” when it is blatant cowardice. Another thing, Margarito has never been proven to have actually loaded his gloves, The so called plaster blocks were in fact pads in his wraps, and they never hardened. Sorry slags.
@F.L.A.-WE-DON’T-PLAY HOW IS IT THAT FLOYD DESERVES A CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT AT 154 WHEN HE HAS ONLY FOUGHT ONCE AT THAT WEIGHT AND THATS BEEN YEARS AGO THEN AGAIN HES ONLY FOUGHT TWICE ONCE WITH A BLOWN UP FEATHERWEIGHT AND THEN WITH A OLD MOSLEY ILL STILL GIVE HIM CREDIT WITH MOSLEY BUT NOT WITH MARQUEZ YOU CAINT FIGHT TWICE AND THEN CALL YOURSELF THE GREATEST WHEN YOU NEVER FOUGHT COTTO,CLOTTLEY AND NOW MARGARITO SO LOOK AT THE FACTS PACMAN HAS BEEN KO EVERYONE LIKE CRAZY LIKE A TRUE GREATEST FIGHTER AROUND NOT LIKE A COWARD MAYWEATHER WHO AVOIDS FIGHTERS BY RUNING INTO RETIREMENT
Floyd takes Williams next would be even better than Pacman vs Floyd…Among the hard core fans I see that fight doing over 1.7million and Manny vs Margarito doing bout 700k.. then next yr comes and Manny wants 50-50.
Floyd would fight him like he did Corrales(straight up boxing)
this fights is a another Mexican Loser again..
This fight could be the straw that broke Top Ranks back. Everything about this fight sucks ass, the sanctioning body (WBC), the promoters (Top Rank), the opponent (Margachito) and the star (Pac man) for being party to this circuis attraction. Peace x
If David Copperfield cannot perform magice on Floyd, his final alternative is Mr. Chris Williams and Chris Ramos, these 2 are ready to hang themselves for Floyd
Mayweather is turning to Don King this time. He ask Mr. King to make this fight disappear. If not, his last chance is Mr. David Copperfield.
YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY, PEOPLE DO WANT TO SEE THIS FIGHT, NOT THE ONE WITH MAYWEATHER, AND NOTHING AGAINST MAYWEATHER HE IS A GREAT ‘BOXER’ BUT HE AINT NO SLUGGER, PEOPLE LIKE WATCHING SLUG FEST, AND BEFORE YOU GUYS OPEN YOUR BIG MOUTH ABOUT MARGARITO, GET YOUR FACTS TOGETHER, THEIR IS GOING TO BE A INTERVIEW WITH MARGARITO AND SOME OTHER GUYS AND WHAT REALLY HAPPEN THAT NIGHT, IS GOING TO BE TODAY OR NEXT WEEK NOT SURE ON THE DATE BUT IS GOING TO BE IN LOS ANGELES 1050 ESPN RADIO STATION, THEN YOU GUYS COULD SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT YOU GUYS DONT JUDGE MARGARITO YET, THEN I PROMICE YOU GUYS WONT FEEL THE SAME, THEIR IS PROVES AND FACTS DONT MISS IT CALL THE RADIO STATION FOR MORE INFO, PLEASE LISTEN TO THE INTERVIEW,
pac-maRGO = certified slugfest.
only sissies love a marathon and wrestling inside the boxing ring.
This fight between pacquiao and Margarito is not good for nobody, it wont do any good to pacquiao , He will beat Margarito all night long, a one side fight. It’s a favor that Bob Arum is doing for Margarito , Because he’s so broke , he can’t even pay attention ! jajaja . Pinche Guey ……!
Both Chris Williams and Christian Ramos et al. Floydiots are hallucinating and/or imagining things. They are free to do so. Given the privelege to write an article you can transposed your dreams into words just to satisfy personal anger and hatred. They failed to focus on Floyds refusal to fight instead they put their hallucinations in the article and posting in which Floyd is so super strong that he’ll beat Manny easily. Playing deaf on Floyds rampant use of drug b4 every fight. Failed also to realize that readers are not dumb to easily submit to all their imagination that was put in writing. Anyhow, continue to dream as I said its free.
check check check
Why is it a mistake? Arum is giving his top fighters their time in the spotlight and it is up to them to capitalize on their oppurtunity. The real question is when will Haymon stop protecting Floyd and give Paul Williams his chance at Floyd? Haymon can’t have Williams best interest in hand if he won’t give him a shot at the supposed G.O.A.T. ,if they are stablemates than the fight should be a piece of cake to make right?
@ seanbrian… co-sign..
1 problem with your article margarito didnt go 12 rounds with mosley. he was knocked out in the 9th round
what is margarito’s chance in defeating pacman? a lot!
what is floyd’s chance in defeating pacman? zero! because he doesn’t want to fight manny.
I agree with the writer in this article and I also believe that the fight would be made if Arum would give up more money
@BeReal:
Let’s make one thing clear first so the Pacquiao fanatics don’t go for my throat: I am not a Floyd fan. But Pac is not Floyd’s only ticket to making that sum. Floyd has many opportunities to make that much money, or perhaps more. We are all obsessed about this fight. Trouble is, obviously, Floyd is not.
I think the risk-reward ratio is not very appealing to PBF knowing Pac will not be a walk in the park. I won’t go so far and say he is afraid of Manny. That would be childish talk. I just don’t believe he is. If Arum offers Floyd 90%, he would fight Pac with one eye closed and one hand tied behind his back. Of course, Arum will never give an inch.
@Teddy
That´s the problem with Floyd fans, they are so dumb that in their little worlds it´s ok to turn down $50 million if you´re Floyd, why? Because Floyd is infallible and if Floyd is on vacation and can´t cash a $50 million dollar check, well, that just makes sense to his fans. Not the brightest group of individuals.
I’d fight floyd manny mosley margarito with his special wraps AND the klit brothers all at the same time for half the money floyd would make for fighting manny. who turns down double digit millions over the weak excuses floyds offering up? I’d fight floyd OR manny TONIGHT for 1/10th the money theyre getting. honestly, all you floyd fans, how much would it take to get you into the ring with pacquiao? or would you be like your hero and punk out in the face of the most money you’ll ever make in your life?
It would still be a hell of a fight even if you predict that it won’t go past round 10. That is what boxing fans come to see. Its not the fight they wanted, but PAC would not disappoint as long as the Margo lives up to his fighting style. One punch could end it all……who knows, as a I said its not a walk in the park for PAC.
FLA- I agree
Marg, though extremely undeserving of this fight, is still somewhat of a challenge due to his size and his chin. Yes, he was downed by Mosley, but Mosley had world class power. Although I believe he cheated, for the simple fact, he did beat Cotto, Cintron, Clottey as well as others, he could not stop the man in his last fight or bloody him up half as much as he did to the top echelon fighters. Lastly, much of the general public has no idea Marg is a cheater. Totally against this fight as it’s a slap in the face, but it will get 800,000-950,000 buys. But by now, there is no reason Pac can’t break 1mill every time.
Floyd Who,
The problem we have with this is that the Sergio Martinez of today destroys Margirto. Kermit Cintron can’t even stay in the ring. Joshua Clottey (who)? The Miguel Cotto fight will forever have a cloud over it until they meet again (plaster free guarantee). Let’s not forget Sugar Shane Mosley shall we…
We most defiantly can’t forget this future HOF’er. Mosley is the best fighter Margarito has faced. We wont talk about what happened in that fight for your agenda’s sake. We also won’t talk about what Floyd just did to Mosley for your agenda’s sake.
In all this fight with Margarito is a “look good” fight for Pac. Marg is a come forward, no defense, and no technical abilities type of fighter that has no speed what so ever.
That is tailor made for Pac. Pac has him out before the bell rings for round 10. Easy.
These are some of the fighters that Margarito has beaten:
Sergio Martinez
Kermit Cintron
Joshua Clottey
Miguel Cotto
So its no walk in the park for PACMAN. Floyd Who??? won’t even want to be in the ring with those four elite fighters.
arum dont make mistakes thats a smart ass promoter if i was a boxer i would fight for him
“If they fight and Floyd wins, it will be the 6th time Manny Pacquiao was in the ring and did not win,” Where in hell did this Christian Ramos get this information? Mr. Ramos, before you write, get your facts straight! You’re just another Pac hater under the payroll of Mayweather.
had pacquiao been fighting a margarito not tainted by a cheating scandal AND a brutal one sided KO loss to shane mosley….say the margarito of 2008 who had just beat Cotto, then id say we have a seriously good fight on.
But these things happened and now not only is margarito washed up but hes completly lost all credibilty and this you cant ignore.
THAT is why this fight is going nowhere and means nothing
@CHRISTIAN RAMOS FORGOT SOMETHING FYI MARGARITO IS THE SAME MAN THAT CALLED OUT MAYWEATHER AND OSCAR DE LA HOYA WHEN MARGARITO WAS THE BELT HOLDER GET UR FACTS STRAIGHT YET PACMAN IS THE ONE WANTING TO FIGHT MARGARITO
this is a slugfest. no mistake.
Hey ramos -
Read some of the articles by the Pacquiao writers.
Read and learn how to write real articles.
Not amateur blogs.
@ANONOMOUS, Certain sites have more of one fan than the other. You just haven’t seen the PACTARDS the rest of us have!
@ author: there’s a real chance pacquiao may actualy loose with margarito. That comes to show you pacquiao just love to fight, regardless who he’s up against. Pacquiao did not design catch weight Freddie roach did. And if pacman did loose to Margarito, so what? He never claimed he is the best. The man just love to fight and get paid.
@WAKE UP, MAKE UP YOUR MIND, DO YOU WANT FLOYD TO MOUTH OFF, OR BE QUIET?
YOU GUYS ARE SOOOOO CONFUSED!
One thing I noticed about this site -
The Pacquiao writers are more skilled and intelligent than the Mayweather writers. That must mean something.
Pacquiao writers – journalists.
Mayweather writers – amateur bloggers.
Is there symbolism in that?
THIS FIGHT IS A LOSES ALL AROUND THE PPV NUMBERS THATS GOING TO BE VERY BAD BECAUSE THE FANS DONT WANT TO SEE THIS FIGHT THE TITLE THAT THERE FIGHTING FOR DOES NOT MAKE SENCE 150 ? AND IF MANNY LOSES HE WILL BE DONE WITH BOXING AND IF HE WINS EVERYTHING ABOVE WILL HAPPEN AND WHEN A BIG FIGHT NAME COMES UP LIKE MAYWEATHER HE WILL WANT THE BIGGER NUMBERS BECAUSE HE SELLS THIS IS A MISTAKE FOR ARUM AND TEAM MANNY
at tic tic
catchweight isnt a bad thing
the steriod thing is out the window now that floyd has been caught in a lie.
so come and join the pac wagon my friend…we welcome you….
@tic tic
How many catchweight fights has Manny had? How many times has he tested positive for any illegal drug?
@BAD BOY, IT DOES HAVE STEROIDS AND CATCHWEIGHT WHENEVER YOU GGOGLE HIS NAME.
THIS WILL NEVER, EVER GO AWAY!
@Tic Tic
There is absolutely no sense debating with someone has blind and close minded as you as to belive in conspiracy theories. EVERY fighter is made, all of them have promoters and are guided through their careers, show me an exception? The same arguments and nonsense you spew about Manny can be said about Floyd, THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENT.
Furthermore Floyd just got done fighting a steroid using cheater, or did you forget about that?
@Be Real, Arum knows he can’t win the PPV war with Mayweather, so he will try to gain leverage with another title belt for Pacquiao.
NOT SURE HOW THAT WILL HELP IN NEGOTIATIONS IN MAY 2011…
at tic tic
at least pac is not scared to fight..
his legacy does not have coward written all over it…suckaaaaaaaaaa
@Bad boy, take some Pepto Bismal. Tums are about 75 cents if you can handle it.
Pacquiao’s legacy is make believe and created on false pretenses.
I absolutely despise Bogus creations! Arum himself is Bogus and all that he stands for and creates. He created Pacquiao.
The Catchweight Queen Strikes Again!
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I know I would pay for this fight if Margarito could come in with plaster in his gloves and Manny comes in on juice. This is the battle of the boxing cheaters. Both are garbage fighters. Money all day. The greatest fighter in my 35 years.
@romero
That argument goes both ways. The Pac Haters, no matter who he fights, will complain he should be fighting someone else. it´s predictable on both sides.
I agree this fight is to get Manny another title and if you were Bob Arum and Manny´s team would you do any different with the chance to add another belt to your legacy? At the end of the day, in 10 or 20 years nobody is going to be talking about catchweights or who Manny should have fought instead of Clottey or Margarito….no no no, at the end of the day they will talk about how many belts in how many divisions.
Is this is a filler fight, yes. Is this a fight to enhance Manny´s legacy, absolutely. Will a boat load of people pay for the fight, of course. Will the haters continue to hate, yup, will the fans continue to blindly support, you know it. So the world keeps turning but in the world of legacies and business my friend this is not a poor decision at all, the last thing on these guys minds are the fans and much less what we are debating on boxingnews 24 dot com..
at tic tic.
i think you make us all sick to our stomaches the way you could back up floyd…
remember money comes and it goes.
a legacy is forever.
floyds legacy is of a coward one….think about that…
@tic tic
Floyd didn´t make $40 million, he only made $24 million against Shane and that´s before taxes and before paying his crew which includes steroids for his entire bodyguard crew and I wouldn´t be surprised if he was broke and owing the IRS before the year is over. If not Manny who will Floyd fight next year to get another huge payday? He´s not fighting P.Williams, he would beat Berto and I don´t see him fighting S.Martinez, the only fight I see him taking is agains Cotto and he could make a decent chunk of change there.
Danny, quick question… what contract are you talking about? The one no one has seen? Oh yeah that one…
@ mr romero true and funny lol
P Williams, A Berto and T Bradley is now thinking of signing with Bob Arum so they can have a crack at the Fighter of the Decade.
GBP’s golden goose Floydie is gone for the next two years and they are struggling to attract fighters on their rank.
Yo Badboy, what don’t you understand? Floyd is relaxing in a big huge bowl with $40,000,000.00.
Pacquiao’s pennnance is gone so he must fight on!
Give it a little while…Mayweather will deliver the ass whoopin you are waiting to see!!!
greenburg hbo and espn has exposed little floyd. nuff said.
@ badboy
I was not genius enough to figure it out. Only reported what himself said
This fight is a slap in the face to Martinez and the other 154 lb contenders. Arum doesn’t care one but. All he cares about is the build up for the biggest payday of his career. The further he enhances Pacquiao, the bigger the Mayweather/Pacquiao buildup and the bigger the PPV sales and his biggest payday will come.
Then his old 146 year old ass will retire!
Its Arum, Roach, and Pacquiao at it again. Can you imagine if Floyd we demanding a Catchweight as well as the vacant Title Belt?
These Pactards and the entire camp is amazing!!!
I see Pac winning but at the same time, this is not the fight i want to see as neither boxers don’t deserve to fight for this belt. Just my 2 cents.
Margarito will be out before the bell sounds for round 10. His style is PERFECT for Pac. He cant box, he comes forward, likes to go toe to toe and is VERY hittable.
What bothers me the most about this fight is that neither deserves a shot at this title. If they want to fight each other and whatever “catchweight” they want is fine. It should be for a 154 title. Pac isn’t even ranked and neither deserves a title shot, especially Pac who’s never even fought at 154. It’s pathetic really and if this was Mayweather he would be bashed for it.
Mayweather legitimately won a 154 title from De La Hoya (I had the fight a draw). Post fight everyone said Hoya was old because nobody could give Mayweather credit for winning this 154 title. Now we have Pac attempting to get a 154 title at a catchweight vs a guy with no license and known cheater who doesn’t even deserve a shot at the title. Yes this is OK?
Double standards anyone?
Midgets!!! What is wrong with you guys! Its OK to differ and not like the little fella! OK, you don’t like Mayweather…SO WHAT!!!
The article is about Margacheato…Why can’t you stay focused?
DAYAMN I HOPE CHEATO KNOCKS THAT DAMN MIDGET CLEAN THE FU(& OUT!!!
Then the mealtrain is OVER!!! O V E R!!! DONE DONE DONE!
Pacquiao would then be lucky to get 20% fighting Mayweather next year!
You best hope and pray he beats CHEATO!
at madrhino
really dude, floyd doesnt want to fight pac man…damn…you are a genious for figuring that out..
you numb nutts, floyd from the beggining never did want to fight pac man….
even though i see pac winning, i think this was a well written article. well done
I will see that fight, wanna see the cheater Margarito take a beating. I would prefer to see Pac vs Floyd, but Floyd does not want to fight now.
What you do not realize, with your undefeated obsession, is that Pac does not need to be undefeated. He is not undefeated, but he puts on a good fight every time. He is exciting to watch, and he will fill the stadiums even after a loss, maybe even more.
@romero
Margaritos past 12 fights were all fought below 150 with the exception of the last one and that was basically because he hadn´t fought in over 1 year but his natural weight is around 148. Margarito fought Shane at 147 a year and a half ago. Realistically 150 is a fair fighting weight for both guys for this fight, it´s not a stretch at all for the weights they have been fighting at recently.
btw, how in the world they make your name Christian, this is the BIG MISTAKE you’re talking about
AT KEV
HEY YOU SHOULD BE IN THE NEXT SHREK MOVIE. THEY NEED A NEW PERSON TO PLAY THE “DONKEYYYYYYY”..
I BET YOU FEEL LIKE A BIG ASS LOLIPOP. YOU SUCKERRRRRRRR.
@tank tell your momma to give your ugly azz one lol
Please…PAC is in no danger of losing to margacheato. He’ll take a dive just like clottey did and bob will pay him nicely for it
i know that when i’m gonna enter this sie it’s gonna always be Pacquiao and MAyweather. Borring
some good points, but i cant see margarito winning.
@drue can we discuss facts here you sound like a d*ck sucker i mean really why would you want something bad to happen to fmj? remember dont wish nothing bad to other because if you gpo to prison you’ll become a prison cell wh*ore lol
at kevy and mr romero.
i bet both of you feel like big jack asses for being taken for a long ride by fairyweather….dumb asses…
correct me if i am wrong, but is it floyd that dont want to fight manny. i am confused with the writter. we all know floyd and the fruit dont fell far from the tree.. like father like son and like uncles too..maybe one day floyd will follw the put step heading to jail.. tell me who your friends are and i will tell you who you are..
how in the hell can you call shots for a title and your not even qualified for it, really neither guy is qualified for it. I guess boxing forgot they have a fan base
cheese wiz what the guy is saying is that if manny has a problem taking a drug test “random” then he should fight without a catchweight because if he wants to be recognised as the best then he should beat these guys with less restrictions. he cant just all of a sudden get a match for the vacant wbc 154lb belt calling shots, hell no, there is too many other fighters who really deserves a shot not manny, he never fought at 154lbs and never will because of his catchweight tactics over clouding the real reason steroids
@Romero
You need to get your information right before writing pure nonsense. Magarito has fought only 7 fights out of 51 in his whole career over 147 pounds, this fight is at 150. In Magaritos last 12 fights he fought only 1 time over 150 and that was the very last one. He fought Mosley and Cotto at 147 as well as P.Williams at 145, Cintron at 146 and Clottey at 147.
Claiming that Magarito will be drained is a complete and flat out lie based on absolutely no evidence. Manny has NEVER fought over 147 which was his highest weight in his last fight.
All those claiming issues with the Catchweight have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO STAND ON SO STFU.
ZDRX has a point. Margarito was embarrased when he fought mosley. He lost before he step n da ring. Beating pacquiao will be a redeemption for him, thats why I’m not buying that he will sell da fight. By beating pacquiao he will catapult to da top.
@badboy i’m right here byatch pack aint even worth talking about anymore, this site just makes my day go by quicker and who’s the nuthugger, lol I think even the honest fans of both sides agree what of a farce manny is or should i say bob. oyu must work for this site or something and stupid people like you are the reason topics of such is getting more comments, so dismiss me from your stupid azz i’ll ignore you because you aint worth talking to
Land of the brave there,s no indians left
hey what ever happend to mr romero and kevy kev and all them floyd nutthuggers.? i guess they fell off floyds nutts from swinging on them so hard..hahhahah.ahahah…\
i think they are chasing the theory of pac on ped that flew out the window….
@JW
You hit the nail on the heat, that´s the name of the game, whoever is the bigger draw get´s the fight. Give it a few weeks and expect an announcement from Floyd about an upcoming fight against a carefully picked opponent that also is a draw that is not really a threat to May. The question is who is out there for Floyd to fight to upstage Manny vs Margarito that really doesn´t pose a threat to Floyd…..all hints point towards Cotto.
Mosley admitted using BALCO
Mayweather admitted using XYL@CAINE
So they are cheaters too?
But of course I will be watching it together with my Dad and Uncle and all my Homie Steroid pumping Bodyguards.
Margo didn’t last 12 rounds against Sugar shane, he got ko’d in the 10th I think, definately not the 12th anyway.
Maybe Margarito doesn’t deserve this fight on recent performances (cheating aside) but he gets it because he’s a draw. The closer it gets to fight night the more exited people will become about this one. Styles really do make fights and these two styles should make a belter. Who is the manditory WBC challenger anyway? Kell Brook I think his name is, some British guy not even the British have heard of! He hasn’t got a hope in hell of getting his rightful shot at the championship ‘coz he aint a draw. I personally think they should allow Pac to use plaster in his wraps!!!
@
Christian Ramos
roadkill- Pacquiao need rehab
brianmaciver
MR. KO
Cbee1
How many of you? Um..5.
Okay,
TOINK! TOINK! TOINK! TOINK! TOINK!
Now hush-hush dont be greedy, I gave each one of you.
Oh, wonder what hits your forehead? A plastic mallet I borrowed from Vegas Clowns. You deserve that!
@LuvBoxing
My last comment goes for you as well (correction: not shane mayweather, shane mosley).
An admitted steroid user was just rewarded the biggest pay day of his life, where were you winers then?
{EXPLETIVE} pac, arum and cheato. only a fool would pay to see this circus freak show.
@Jamie
Don´t be a douc#%he and a hypocrite. Shane Mayweather, ADMITTED STEROID USER, just fought Floyd, were you crying then? Probably not so STFU
I just don’t see how anyone with any type of integrity can buy this fight. I love Manny but it ridiculous that he would accept a fight against Margacheato. A man who tried to use plaster on his hands to defeat Mosley. A man who almost killed Cotto with that plaster. he should never step in a ring again and it definitely should not be against a celebrated fighter like Manny.
@roadkill
get a grip bro, you are losing your marbles. It´s just an F´n sport it´s not the end of your life unless you live in your grandma´s basement while delivering pizzas on a part time basis waiting on every bit of Floyd and Manny news so you can spend your whole life hating on one and sucking on the other, if that´s the case which it probably is with you, keep on ranting.
(john): Hey! look, a bat flying.
(doe) : Ummm, No!
(john): Is it a ch1cken?
(doe) : No!
(john): Is it a d@ck?
(doe) : Shhh! that’s Mayweather. Flying to Brit’s. He doesnt belong to the “The Land of The Brave….” he’s gonna fight Mathew Hatton over there.
It’s crazy to reward a guy that loaded his gloves.
I hope all fans that care about boxing’s integrity
don’t buy it…
Antonio is probably going to get paid more to throw the fight that to win. Don’t count on Antonio winning this one. Arum probably paid good money to keep Pac safe.
BOB ARUM SHOULD BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW FOR TRING TO STEEL PEOPLES MONEY !!!!!!!!!!!!
DONT BUY THIS FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ARUM IS ROBBING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dont buy this fight ITS A SCAM DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Qua@k!
can’t wait to see this fight!!!!i already save 50 box for the pay per view.
well not us chris,me my family,friend,the whole clan will be waiting to see this fight.
Manny fans don’t care who he fights. Boxing fans want to see him fight the best. Arum brings a level of malice to Boxing. Antonio could and should beat Manny with his style. The fact that he is a Bob Arum fighter makes people think that its fixed. Margarito wins he is redeemed. Manny stock falls quicker then a hot potatoe. Manny wins which I think he will he has that 8th title. People that don’t follow boxing are walking around saying that Manny is the best fighter to ever walk the planet. Really? I like Manny Margarito and Floyd but Boxing needs an overhaul. From drug testing to match making.
BOB ARUM SHOULD BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW FOR TRING TO STEEL PEOPLES MONEY !!!!!!!!!!!!
DONT BUY THIS FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ARUM IS ROBBING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
arum pac roach are all con artist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you all are sheep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DONT BUY THIS SCAM OF A FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheater VS Cheater…….I mean Mayweather and Mosley.
@milo says: Floyd mayweather is killing da sport. Go on and retire already your ruining da boxing world!
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Indeed, he already killed the sport 7 years ago. He was still fighting that time and yet Boxing is nowhere.
I’M BUYING IT! I’LL BUY PPV. I DONT CARE IF NOBODY IS WATHCING THE EVENT ON MY HOUSE BECAUSE I’M GONNA BE THERE AT THE VENUE TOO!
BLAME MAYWEATHER FOR THIS FIGHT! OR HOW ABOUT OFFER MAYWEATHER THIS FIGHT? Oh well, he’s on his vacation place….HIDING!!!!!
BOB ARUM SHOULD BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW FOR TRING TO STEEL PEOPLES MONEY !!!!!!!!!!!!
DONT BUY THIS FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ARUM IS ROBBING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Margarito will get bludgeoned by Pacquiao. He doesn’t have the extra dimension that a prime Eric Morales and J M Marquez had. He will get rapidly beaten to the punch and will eventually wilt and go to sleep when he cant take anymore of Pacquiao’s fast-heavy shots. That’s if he doesn;t get caught cold walking into a shot like Hatton did. Don’t start to think for a second that he can hurt Pacquiao if Cotto couldn’t. he simply is too one dimentional to catch Pacquiao blind enough to hurt him bad enough.
>Watch and see.
Christian Ramos do u know what u writing,do u have any idea abt boxing lmao
IM NOT EVEN A PAC FAN BUT KNOW PAC WILL BEAT MARGARITTO.
MARGARITTO IS DONE HE GOT KO’D BY SHANE, AND WHOOOPED BY P WILLIAMS! LET PAC FIGHT THE MEN THAT BEAT MARGARITTO!
THIS FIGHT IS A SCAM!!!!!!!!! DONT WASTE UR MONEY!!!!!!!!
MANNY PACQUIAO VS MARGARITTO IS A SCAM!!!!!!!!!!! DONT BUY THIS FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!! SAVE YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SCAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah there’s danger that this is pacman’s waterloo because margo eats bombs for breakfast. the only reason he lost to mosely, is because he was troubled by what happened in the dressing room. he lost that fight psychologically minutes before the bell, that physically he was not into the fight atop the ring but somewhere else. now, margo view this fight as his redemption and the shortcut ticket to the top of the heap if he wins. but i hope pacman survives.
MANNY PACQUIAO VS MARGARITTO IS A SCAM!!!!!!!!!!! DONT BUY THIS FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!! SAVE YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@roadkill- Pacquiao need rehab:
You actually think Floyd Mayweather will fight Paul Williams? No wonder you’re a fan… but, no, you’re wrong…
damn right this fight is a mistake. i will not pay to watch this ridicoulos event. floyd should again upstage this one too by fighting p. williams.
DONT BUY THIS FIGHT, IT IS A SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!! SAVE YOUR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!
I have a feelin mayweather is gana want to fight at 154 vs pacman..he messed up now by going up in weight..if he looks bad in that weight..man I know floyd gana say let’s fight at 154 no catch weight and mayb end up givein 50-50 or 60-40 to who eva wins
damn right this fight is a mistake. i will not pay to watch this ridicoulos event. floyd should again upstage this one too by fighting p. williams.
DONT BUY THIS FIGHT, IT IS A SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!! SAVE YOUR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Floyd mayweather is killing da sport. Go on and retire already your ruining da boxing world!
Christian Ramos, do you even watch boxing, or do you just write of Pacman? Maybe watch Margarito vs. Mosley?
pac is a steroid user arum didnt want pac to fight mayweather
What fight was it that Margarito lasted 12 rounds? Why even continue writing… amateur mistake…
ye but all of you pacheads fink that pacioa is grate but markez noked him out and maywethere noked out markez so thats all that maters.
period. argooment ova.
The writers facts are wrong. Margarito didnt last 12 rounds with mosley he lasted just 9 before being knocked senseless. Pacquio will do the same without much trouble.
Stop trying to make out we have a fight on here. we dont.
This fight is a farce and i wont be watching it
pack has been making money off of mayweather’s name and to say he wants 50/50 and wanna issue a lawsuit, man these guys is disqusting man. they go to the lowest of the low to promote fights, they are worst than a AIDS prostitue
@CHRISTIAN RAMOS
sorry but no one will ever believe that floyd will go on to be the greatest of this era.
the world knows what mayweather is…a coward!!!
you can write as much as you want to cover up floyd’s stink, but everyone in his right mind knows that floyd will go down as the GREATEST COWARD OF ALL TIME!!!
So if you are saying that cheato has a good chance of winning, why should we be hyping up a fight like may vs pack. Look if pack wanna sell tickets everyone needs to stop mentioning mayweather pack is not fighting mayweather on Nov.13. people was doing this cr@p when pack fought j. clottey, let pack sell tickets and such off of his own name not someone else, simple and plain. pack somehow skipping through the ranks fighting a guy shane destroyed, so pack and mayweather shouldnt be in the same sentence unless they are sharing the same ring.
Pacquiao could have had a fight with Mayweather before but after Mayweather agreed to Pac’s ring size,gloves,penalty for extra weight,50/50 purse split and venue,Pacquiao said no because he didnt want to take R.B.T’S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For the last time there was no contract, just a one sided proposal from Arum. which by the way, he never personaly presented to either GBP of Team Mayweather. and besides in the contract Manny did not agree to the terms FMJ proposed after the Mosley fight.
screw golden boy promotions and top rank promotions….pacman and margarito are only fighting because bob arum knows it will make more than 1 millions pay per view buys because its mexican vs filipino…mexico a country will watch pacquiao because of pacman vs marquez and margarito because his mexican…i think this is to show floyd he can generate more money..so that way nwxt year if pacman and floyd fight it can be 50-50….these promoters are killing the sport i wish the sanctions would step in and make it a latter sport climb to fight the best…
@Danny,
Catchweights and steroids are what is killing boxing!
hey common christian ramos….i dont think the pacman need to fight mayweather..yuo knw why? pacman has nothing to gain againts mayweather..pacman got everything of mayweather and mayweather needs more of the pacman..mayweather got 6 titles and the pacman got 7 titles..mayweather was just a former pound4pound and pacman with 7 titles will remain the ultimate pound for pound king till somebody got 8 title as simple as that.
Debie lahr is Floyd girlfriend!
Debie page, cristy williams, christina ramos are mayweather’s girlfriends!
@Jimmy M.:
I’m not Arum’s biggest fan, but how is he killing boxing? He tried to put together the biggest fight of all time, but Mayweather got scared… Mayweather’s the one killing boxing, the sport he says, when it suits him, he wants to ‘clean up’, give me a break, we’re not ALL that gullible…
I’m just wondering which Margarito vs. Mosley fight it was that Margarito lasted 12 rounds in?,because the one I saw didnt go to the 10th!
bob arum is killing boxing!
The joke is, Maytards give Mayweather credit for outpointing a 38 year old Mosley (despite getting badly hurt in the second before Mosley gassed) but Cotto – who Pacquiao dominated – had done a job on Mosley almost three years before…!
QUACK?
@ PIJoe:
Absolutely! When he demolishes Cotto everbody makes excuses, when he signs to fight Margarito they already criticise… but Mayweather avoided those guys for years… he turned down $8 million from Margarito (when he wasn’t earning nearly that) and said he didn’t want to fight Cotto because ‘he lives in Puerto Rico’!
Mayweather couldn’t even stop a much smaller Marquez, a man Pacquiao knocked down four times in two contests!
Da triplets ramps, Laurence and Williams!
Thats all mayweather is doing let pac and margarito have a war,he will have an easy fight with someone pac
Wins then mayweather fights him at 154 no catchweight and drug testing he will have the advantage then.
it is a big mistake tho…. just like clottey was…. maybe if his last 5 or 6 fights werent against this type of figter it wouldnt be bad but this rinse lather repeat process is gettin old..
This is just another example of Pacquiao fighting a guy Mayweather shared a division with for 5 yrs and didn’t fight.
the experience of arums in promoting boxing events is more than your age
Everybody is entitled to an opinion, as are you, Christian Ramos, but to say, and I quote ‘Nobody wants to see it’ is nonsense. I for one want to see it.
You talk about Pacquiao as an ‘overrated and protected fighter’ and Mayweather as ‘the greatest of this era’ but comparing their resumes tells a different story. The bookies don’t agree with you either.
If Mayweather is so great and Pacquiao is ‘overrated and protected’ then why is Mayweather’s signature still missing from the contract? Why is he on holiday when he wants to ‘clean up’?
The top boxing writers arond the world seem to think that Pacquioa is ‘fighter of the decade’ far from ‘overrated and protected’, then, but I guess they’re wrong and you’re right?
Pacquioa has gone into far more fights than Mayweather as an underdog and that says it all.
This site is deprived of talented writers, and unfortunately has to settle for mindless bloggers… unfortunate really.
the experience of arum in promoting boxing events is more than your age