Marquez thinks Mayweather would beat Pacquiao

from the article of Mark Kriegel,columnist for FOXSports.com

There were five guys involved here. Four of them – Pacquiao, Arum, Haymon and Greenburg – worked hard to make it happen. The fifth guy killed it.

THERE! DO I HAVE TO MENTION THE C0WARDS NAME? HE’S THE 5TH PERSON/CH1CKEN!!!

@JesusJones – You’re a funny guy…

@ Kray

You have more exits than Floyd.

@haha

Where do you get your info from? Your numbers are completely inflated. Floyd only made $24 million against Shane and I know he didn´t make $40 million against JMM and that´s before taxes and paying the rest of his crew. The numbers are no where near what you are talking about.

@ Kray

80% pushing for Vegas as the venue. I was told.

Dave Lahr is back writing one-sided articles on behalf of his boss Floyde Mae Weeder. Hey, Lahr. Styles make fight. Marquez did not do good against your boss because he came in very heavy, and very slow. A perfect opponent for your boss. Pacman is entirely different. He will apply speed, pressure, and heavy power combinations that will make Floyde busy covering up and patty-patting his punches – to produce a boring fight which your boss Floyde is well-known off. I agree with you, the first time, athugh. If Floyde dances, jabs, grabb, runs, pitty-paat punches, sure he will win by ugly unanimous decision. This is not the fight people pay the PPV for. Mr. Lahr, if you really want to help your boss Floyde, tell him not to fight Pacmantoe-to-toe like what he did with Moseley. Otherwise, he will get KOD within 7 rounds.
Indeed, Lahr’s articleis biased, unfair, and dishonest or unbojective at its best.

ha ha until now he is coward like his idol cannot reveal his nationality, toilet bowl ? your face is the toilet bowl. trying hard to attack an entire nation ? he he he u r the same as your idol COWARD, no brain quack quack, no skill at all cannot stick to the subject, this is a result of a very poor upbringing and does not have any decent education at all. entering into an argument then switching the subject into other areas other than the topic ? result of “0″ intelligence, resorting into maligning others who is outside the topic is the work of an animal on the loose.

Floyd’s new record now stands as 41-1 (one loss by KO/DO) Knock out by Ducking Out.

Rofl, a little Pinoy is trying to talk to me about ‘paper’ when his little toilet bowl of a country is so poor it has to whorre out its own daughters to have an economy.

Sad.

ha ha ha 65m on paper, then running away from IRS this is nothing but hot air, floydiots are cowards like their master, hide their nationality and indetity ? , resorting to bad name calling, not sticking to the subject, dragging the entire nation, going as far as Al Qaeda Iraq ?soon Mongolia will be mention, sign of a very weak intelligence. running out of steam. desperately seeking attention in a racist fashion

THERE YOU GO !!!

That’s funny you mention Castillo because Mayweather granted him an immediate rematch.

Whereas Coward Pinoy Boy Manok ‘The Philipino Phagggot’ Phagiao never fought Singsurat again.

He was a very scared little Pinoy. (kind of like most Pinoys actually – especially those Pinoy troops who ran from Al-Qaeda in Iraq without firing a single shot).

Yeah, and Phagiao had the advantage as well when he came in heavy against Singsurat (and lost his belt on the scales I might add – LOL), and Singsurat still tapped that little brown Pinoy ass of his, in less than 3 rounds as well.

Phagiao – KTFO in less than 3 rounds.

well if he thought paquiao would beat mayweather then who would beleive he can beat paquiao? it’s that simple…

It’s plain and simple as I said before. Floyd Mayweather Jr is the boss and they are now trying to salvage the bad publicity this might bring to the Floyd Mayweather Jr ‘BRAND’. It’s basic business 101 here in Hollywood. This is all public relations trying to deflect anything that would cause Mayweather Jr to be ducking.

ODLH is now retracting his statement regarding the fight is close to being mad. It must have been some really good LSD he was taking to make a suggestion that there was even a negotiations going on.

Everyone from the Mayweather camp to Golden Boy are on the defensive to make sure Floyd does not look like he’s ducking.

As I said a few days ago. I would not be surprise with HBO taking potshots at Floyd knowing what they know now after this second failed negotiations.

@An Honest Pacman Fan – I agree with some of those points. Here’s where we diverge

“[HBO] put pressure on Mayweather’s team and gave them an ultimatum.”

–OK…could be. Seems like Arum was the one in a rush to set up the next fight. Reportedly, Greenburg told Arum, he would not support his next fight, if he didn’t first make an offer to Mayweather. Arum obliges, hence, the exclusivity period. Arum makes an offer Floyd COULD refuse, through Greenburg. The deadline could’ve originally come from Greenburg, but, Arum took full credit for it, and it represented the end of the Mayweather ‘talks’, exclusively. Now, Arum can set up his next in-house fight, offering it to the highest bidder (Abu Dhabi, Monterrey Mexico, and of course Vegas). He gets an opportunity to shop his Top Rank stable, build Manny’s legacy, and redeem Margarito, while keeping the Floyd option open, for next year. He can’t lose.

“Mayweather doesn’t like it but can’t say anything bad against HBO”

–Well yes and no. Ellerbe…Floyd’s representative, basically, called Ross Greenburg a liar. That doesn’t seem like Floyd was worried about what his camp said about HBO.

Pretty good article here, by someone who some consider an ‘Arum guy’.

“http://www.examiner.com/x-5699-Boxing-Examiner~y2010m7d19-Lousy-lapdance-as-neither-Pacquiao-nor-Mayweather-wanted-super-bout”

@kray

I do have a theory but I have never put it out there because I hate not having something to back it up with.

Here it is:
- Nego did happen with Arum, Greenburg, Haymon
- Arum/Pac compromised a little with the drug testing (probably less than 14 days but still not all the way)
- Greenburg insists that this should be sufficient for Mayweather
- Now this is the biggest thing that I think played in this situation. HBO does have a lot of say when it comes to the money that the fighters make on their fights, and HBO PROBABLY (cos as I said this is conspiracy theory stuff) put pressure on Mayweather’s team and gave them an ultimatum
- Haymon receives the offer and presents it to Mayweather
Mayweather doesn’t like it but can’t say anything bad against HBO
- Does Mayweather’s team is stuck with trying to cover up tracks about the nego or trying to just minimize damage on Mayweather’s rep by saying he’s on vacation

mmmmm…. just my piece of conspiracy theory..

LOL!

@An Honest Pacman Fan – Maybe it just died before Ellerbe’s involvement was required.

@kray

Totally forgot about that claim… F#$%
This is hurting my head now.. LOL!

@An Honest Pacman Fan – Uh…no. Jeff Mayweather stated Manny did not agree to any more than a 14 day window. He seemed pretty confident, in his assertion of that, and the state of the lawsuit.

@JAZZ The Truth – We heard/read on 2 occasions, once in May and once in June, the state of negotiations from Team Mayweather’s perspective. Each time they said they were NOT involved in talks with Team Pacquiao. And we are hearing the same thing now.

Now, they never said, they didn’t receive an OFFER from Team Pacquiao, through Greenburg, through Haymon. If that OFFER did not warrant further discussion…not even a rejection through Haymon, through Greenburg….well, then technically, Ellerbe is right, IMO.

We are all just grabbing for straws now, anyway. And trying to determine whose fault it is. I, personally, blame them both. Neither side is divulging the details, which would allow us to put the pieces together.

@An Honest Pacman Fan – Al Haymon never speaks to the media. Floyd has already spoken, on May 1, and again about a 2 year layoff, in June. And once again, confirmed his lack of interest in boxing, just recently.

His closest representative said ‘NOTHING’ (we are all hard pressed to define just what ‘NOTHING’ means, here) was going on, in regards to the negotiations. And he has NEVER wavered from that stance (in May, June or July). The fact that he’s been so consistent through all of this, in the face of everyone else’s inconsistency, is what is puzzling to me.

@F.L.A

Dude, you clearly don’t see the contradiction in your arguments:

- Floyd will never get credit, he will always be bashed
- Anyway it was the fans that gave him ESPY awards.
—– CONTRADICTION AIN’T IT?

- I’m all for the money
- $50m??
—– CONTRADICTION AIN’T IT?

- Floyd won’t do what we expect him to do
- A lot of people expected him to duck Pac
—– CONTRADICTION AIN’T IT?

-When the first negotiations failed he never shyed away on telling us all Pac has do is this and that
- Now… mmmm I’m on vacation
—– CONTRADICTION AIN’T IT?

I do know how great Mayweather is by the way….

@An Honest Pacman Fan – Ellerbe may have had NO involvement this time. Al Haymon was dealing with Greenburg, according to ARUM. And Haymon has a direct line to Floyd. Like I said, if Floyd was not budging on the testing, and rather lackluster about taking another fight this year, 14 days was not going to cut it. So, how do we know things weren’t snuffed at the point they got a 14 day offer from Top Rank, BEFORE Ellerbe had a chance of to play his role of pushing papers or whatever he does for Floyd?

Recall…Ellerbe said back in May after the Mosely fight, that NOTHING was going on. Then he said it AGAIN in June. And, just recently, we hear/read him saying this AGAIN. His story has NEVER changed/ So, either Ellerbe is WAY out of the loop, he’s DEAF and BLIND, he’s lying for the sake of lying, or he’s telling the TRUTH, as he understands it.

@kray

I’ll give you that (no one has seen the contract).. and I agree too no one knows what Pac has agreed to..

There’s only one thing lingering in my mind, and I wish I can find an answer:

I wonder what stopped Mayweather from voicing out the real reason why he didn’t take the fight?

@kray

If what you are trying to explain is that there was no direct communication… then yes there wasn’t.. but there was NEGOTIATION

It does not need to be communicated directly for a negotiation to exist…

And do you really think Ellerbe will not know of any dealings that Al Haymon would? If he really doesn’t then what is he worth in the team?

Greenburg’s interest is to get this fight done.. because this will bring HBO money.. he wouldn’t go geopardizing any chance of getting this made.. that’s why he was a good candidate for a mediator..

If Arum would have handed a bogus contract.. It is Greenburg’s interest that it be ironed out not to put Mayweather in an awkward situation so the fight can happen.. He is the mediator.. his best interest is to get the fight done…

@F.L.A

I don’t agree with the Marg fight neither.. but we wouldn’t have to discuss this if Mayweather agreed to fight him.

Dude, why would they put the contract out? Have you seen any physical contract for any fights before? You are living in lala land..

Catchweight king? WOW… I did have respect for your attempt to defend Mayweather but now I just started losing it…

Pac has only fought one catch weight against Cotto.. the deserves to be crowned doesn’t it? You atleast thought about the fact that this is a little man trying to trade punches with a bigger man right.. and now Marg… as much as I don’t like Marg getting the chance.. he is 5’11.. Pac’s only 5’6.. wow.. you don’t respect that do you?

@F.L.A

Aren’t you surprised that for such and easy fight against a one dimensional smaller man there is a lot of beating around the bush just to get the fight made?

You might have your opinion on how Pac would fare against him, but maybe just maybe… the fighter himself knows more than you…

@An Honest Pacman Fan – He’s really saying no more than Arum said. There were talks, ‘negotiations’ if you want to call it that (what that really means, in this case, is debatable I guess). And Arum ended those ‘negotiations’ on Jul 16, 12:01 am (PST). He did the same thing in Jan too (set a hard deadline). And true to form, he quickly signs Manny up to fight another Top Rank ‘soldier’.

By Arum’s own admission key people were either not involved or on the fringes of these ‘negotiations’ (ODLH, Schaeffer, evidently, Ellerbe). And for the record, there is NO indication that Manny AGREED to full randomized testing, which Mayweather put his foot down about months ago. So, I can imagine that these ‘negotiations’ ended abruptly, at the point Top Rank made an offer that did not include that. The rest, I would imagine, is media hype (from Arum, Team Pac, and a little from ODLH (though he claims to have been misquoted).

Oh well…neither fighter wanted this fight enough, this time around, to do what it took to make it happen. They are both to blame.

Floyd Mayweather fans are living day by day. First there was no negotiations, now lets wait and see how greedy blah blah blah……… COMEDY!

@ Kray

So what happened to the ‘there was no negotiation excuse’?

@F.L.A

At the moment the evidence is pointing towards Mayweather, until you can get a reliable (or even a shady article) that can prove other wise… it’s kinda hard to agree with you..

Think about it this way:
How can you dismiss Arum not wanting to fight when he has put out a contract… even though there is a massive chance (let’s pretend for a second that this is the scenario) that he knows Mayweather won’t agree to what he’s drawn up, all Mayweather had to do to ruin Bob’s plans was to agree right?

So in fact, no matter how much he knows Mayweather, there really is no guarantee in predicting anything.. He is not a fortune teller nor a psychic.. so put that bs aside and let us be logical human beings….

@F.L.A

1. Have you noticed that all you could say is full of IF’s and MAYBE’s

2. As I said, he could have told us the reason instead of just saying he is on vacation

3. Ask yourself, if you were him and the whole world is deaming you as a duck, would you be content with “I’m not interested…” or would you lay out everything so you can defend yourself…

4. It does not take all of what the media spews up (because I do agree they put out a lot of rubbish) to come to a logical conclusion, you just need to be able to weigh out which one is more reliable and draw a logical conclusion…

@F.L.A

Question: Hey Floyd you want a check for $50 million?
Floyd Answer: Nah man, I´m on vacation….

Are you serious?

@F.L.A.-WE-DON’T-PLAY

You might want to check the news mate..

There was negotiations and Mayweather is the one who didn’t want to take the fight..

Not Pac… Not Bob…

@JesusJones – If you watched Pacquiao’s fights where Steward was a commentator (even going back to Morales), you know he called most of those fights dead on. It did not take him but a few rounds to determine the course of the fight, or he called the fight right, before it even started.

Yes…he prefers Manny’s style, to Floyd’s usual style, of stick and move. He’s said that on a number of occasions. It does make for a more dramatic (exciting, if you prefer) fight. But, he knows, in his mind, that Floyd is better. And after he saw the WAY Floyd handled SSM, he had to come out and say it. Steward knows Floyd has too many tools in his arsenal, and has the size, strength, and speed to handle Manny the same way.

As far him saying Cotto is a MUCH improved fighter. I’ve never seen a quote where he sad that. I’ve read/heard where he said he helped Cotto to make MINOR improvements to his game, but, that Cotto knows quite a bit himself already. He pointed out some mistakes that Cotto made in his fight with Manny (and the C/W did not help matters), and thinks he could help Cotto make the next one more competitive. Sounds reasonable to me. But, you are putting a bit too much on it HAY-SEUS….

JMM really is aching for a 3rd fight with Pacquiao. At 147 lbs, he went to the extent of drinking his urine to gain more strength. With Pacman’s power and speed at 147, I wonder what JMM will do? I’m just curious.

A 3rd fight will be interesting. JMM will surely find a different Pacquiao at 147 and will have a better basis to predict who will beat who..Pacquiao or Floyd Jr.

@ T-Bone

Last time I checked Floyd Sr. called Pacquiao a B1TCH. I guess he’s afraid for his son to get B1TCH slap by Pacquiao, lol!

@ Kray

Steward also said that the new Miguel Cotto is not the same Cotto Pacquaio fought. Cotto will have a better chance and might even beat Pacquiao and is looking forwrd to a rematch but was robbed by Margacheato. Same Cotto you don’t want Pacquiao fighting cause he already destroyed him the first time. Contradiction is a sickness of a liar, and that’s a fact.

Pu ssyboy mayweather is a BI TCH.he probably has Nightmares of pacquiao.even if all the mexican fighters got together they still couldnt convince this BI TCH ASS to sign the contract…

DAVE LAHR IS SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THERE TALKING BOUT

Haha Nice try Mr Lahr!

Your boy is the one that didnt want the fight because of his so called ‘vacation’.

Manny has heart and speed Mayweather has heart,skill and speed.
Get arum out of the picture and we will have the fight that we all have been waiting for. A lot of people forgot that arum was Mayweathers promoter. It would be a good show.

I DIDNT KNOW FLOYD IS THE SECOND RICHEST ATHLETE IN THE WORLD

@roberto- pliz give us some serious analysis on boxing or just be quiet.

Floyd cannot fight without Xylo Jmm cannot fight without drinking his pee. Both are dirty. Pacquiao NO proof, NO evidence, all lies Floydiots only following Sr’s order, still hoping Floyd will beat Pac, ha ha ha not even in your dreams. funny how FMJ fans says he beat Pacquiao wherein he can’t even fight him, only the fans are the brave to fight Pac, like floyd their weapon is only their mouth, hey Floydiots tell your drug user idol to fight Pac, never mind juice he can inject one gallon its no problem with a warrior like Pacman, he is not like F*G who surrender easily on big fights

I think its time to give all the Floyd Huggers a lift and sing their theme song:

Oh Where?? Oh Where??
Has my little Floyd gone
Oh Where?? Oh Where can he Be??
With his fear of PAC and excuses to duck
Oh Where?? Oh Where can he Be??

@F.L.A WE DONT PLAY

AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING, I HAVE NEVER AGREED WITH NO ONE IN THIS SITE EVER. I ALSO THINK FLOYD WOULD EMBARRASSED PACMAN, AND THEIR WOULD BE ALOT OF SUICIDES IN THE PHILLIPINES

HATING ON MANNY, EVERYONE HATES ON FLOYD AND HIS TALENTS, HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA MANNY AND HIS FANS ENVY FLOYD’S 0, 41-0, NOT 51-3-2 burned

TO ALL YOU FLOYD FANS

YOU FUNNY … excuses .. excuses …

hahahahha
manny is the one thats juiced up, floyd is talent, manny has no talent or skills,OVERATED IS THE WORD FOR MANNY OVERATED AND HYPE, has no defence, ugly footwork, no boxing skills, no brain, just hand speed and power THANX TO THE PED’S LOL, AND FIGHTING NOTHING BUT BUMS HELPS

Floyd cheat’s all his opponent with drug use during his fight that’s why he wins, if he don’t inject Xylo even a bantam can beat him, as for Manny he can knock him out with eyes close and left hand tied on his back, becoz floyd is dependent on xylo, hi admitted it. so finally we have Floyd who cheats all the time and yet they say he is a good boxer, how can somebody be a good boxer when if he cannot juice himself he cannot fight, his fight only on vegas, why ? now, still hoping he’ll win against Pac, i’ll see him kneel in front of Pac, thats why is so much scared to death to fight him, only the Floydiots are the brave ones because of the keyboard

Floyd himself knows he’s gonna be knockout by Pacquiao even under the influence of injected drug, that’s why he so much afraid. his knockout ratio’s are behind of that Pacquiao, most of his win against big names are by UD or SD, most of his knockouts are fisherman and farmers, no vibrant names except for RH on a lucky punch but late. Floydiots are just keeping hope for a Fraud victory trying to think their idol is that good can beat Pac but reality can be seen on Fraud, too much scared coz he knows if he fight the 7 div champ FOTD FOTY he’s dead

Almost every active boxer, especially those that have fought the two and were dissed by Mayweather and praised by Pacquiao, reckon Money Mayweather will win easily against Pacquiao.

The list is endless:

De la Hoya
Marquez
Hatton
Cotto
Malinaggi
Juda
Mosley
and
so
on
all believe Mayweather will whoop Manny’s ass.

Only Floyd-hating press people and opinionators give Manny a chance.

It is very simple for the Mayweather’s.

“HATRED IS THE ANSWER FOR THE COWARDS BEING INTIMIDATED”

kevin says:
July 26, 2010 at 5:23 am
its funny how all the fighters who have fought both fighters say mayweather would win…

It’s simple player hatin brutha. You really think Hatton would choose Pacquaio over Mayweather who was destroyed in less than 6 minutes by the very person he thinks will lose to someone who waited for him to get tired before finally working?

AVATAR you kno nothing!!! Give me one reason why floyd should take a fight with Pac for 50/50 when he’s had bigger PPV numbers and fought a better fighter in Mosley and dominated him unlike Pac fight against Clottey!! If Pac wants Floyd so bad he would agree to 55/45!!!!

@boxtop123 – TOINK! TOINK! TOINK! sorry, Mayweather just told me to do it to you. He said NO but you still keep pushing him, he also said that you are not the one who will weep inside the ring but he will so,,, TOINK! again.

AVATAR 123
man you have a warped view of things you said cotto didnt complain, so he’s a real warrior he laso didnt complain when margarito destroyed his life most likely with plaster, clottey didnt complain either, come on man are you willing to overlook all the other stuff like bob arum being a liar, or weight draining fighters, or fighting washed up fighters FIGHTERS FIGHT FOR MONEY NOT CAUSE IT’S FUN AND IN TOP RANK ARUM IS MAKING ALL THE MONEY YOU KEEP SAYING TELL FLOYD TO JUST FIGHT OR FOR HIS FANS TO CONVINCE HIM TO FIGHT, THEN I TELL YOU WHY DONT YOU TELL PACQUIAO TO OFFER A WINNER TAKE ALL FIGHT TO FLOYD YEAH NOW YOU KNOW

@Da Blakeman & kray – I started to think that you hate Mayweather, I thought you are fans of his. How many times he gave us all a clear message that he is scared of Manny and still you are saying that he’s not. Do you really want to k1ll him? He said already, stop pushing him.

@Da Blakeman & kray ; So convince Floyd, not us. Tell him to fight without hesitation. Guess what, he wont. He’s sooo scared! He knows his downfall, not you!

This topic is a bit played out, at this point. But…I agree with JMM. I don’t know why people think JMM is favoring Floyd because he’s jealous of Manny. The man knows boxing. He understands all the nuances and angles and, obviously, knows Manny’s style VERY well, as evidenced by him winning more rounds than Manny did, in their previous two bouts.

Sure, he was knocked down a few times, Manny’s the younger, bigger, stronger, faster fighter, so, that’s not really a surprise. Juan Diaz knocked him down too…big deal. But, the point is JMM had to figure out HOW to be effective in spite of that. In other words, it was the brainier fighter vs the brawnier fighter.

Floyd is a different type of fighter. And, at this point, he’s got the brains and the brawn (he’s gotten stronger over those 2 years), at WW. And JMM (as a shoe-in HOF’er) understands, that if HE could not figure Floyd out (landing 12% of 586 punches against a mostly DEFENSIVE fighter w/ two years of ring rust), Manny is going to have a hell of a time doing so.

Marquez is probably right but you have to remember that styles make fights. After seeing how much power Pac carried to 147 against Cotto it would be foolish to give him no chance to beat Floyd with his speed, combinations and awkward southpaw stance.

JMM and Ricky, having self pity. You never heard Cotto complains. A true warrior and a gentleman who accepts defeat.

By the way…let’s go back to “How Mayweather Ducked All Good Fighters”…

Where are JMM’s quotes to support your claim? Sad. Next time insert his facial expressions and body language. JMM’s shrugging about fight. JMM demonstrates spirit hands. JMM’s passes gas in response. Make sure there no quotes. I want you to write about an articles about what someone thinks but, don’t put his actual words in there.

Raggin

@Jim Crow, Just watch, Pacquiao will end up taking 30%.

70/30 in favor of Mayweather.

You’d better pray that Pacquiao/Cheato does more than 500,000 PPV buys!!!

@Nissan, Kind of like how Pacquiao demands all of his opponents to fight at a catchweight to put them all at a disadvantage.

Marquez is a loser, washed out urine drinker. He’s just pi$$ed Manny beat him twice and went on to bigger and better things. He’s so desparate to fight him so he can cash in on Manny’s fame just like Bradley.

How could Marquez win against Pacquiao. He lost last fight against Pacquiao and Pacquiao is way better than he fought Marquez. Only stupid people think Marquez will win. I don’t think he has a chance at all. If Pacquiao knocks him down in first round, I don’t think he could come back to fight. It’s going to be worse than the Haton fight.

my hopes up………I meant to say.

MAYBE BECAUSE MANNY WANTS MORE MONEY BECAUSE ONCE HE LOSES TO ANY FIGHTER IS IS DONE FOR GOOD I CANT WAIT TO SEE THAT DAY HAPPEN MAYWEATHER IS A GREAT HE WILL BEAT MANNY

Ricky Hatton, who was arguably beat worse by Pacqiao than Mayweather, also still picks Mayweather to win.

The only reason why there is no Pacquiao-Mayweather is that the latter is afraid of the former. Mayweather is frightened of the only boxer that has a chance to beat him and give him is lone loss. Mayweather may be the better fighter but his reluctance to fight is cowardice and making his fans think twice of him. Of course die hard writers like Dave Lahr and Chris Williams will always root for Mayweather. If that fight ever comes to fuition, and Mayweather wins, these 2 will gloat, but if Pacquiao wins, they will have tons of excuses. What’s new with these guys. Take your medicine and move on. The world would be a boring place if everybody likes everybody.

No one knows who’s gonna win on “Money vs Manny” thats why the two need to fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But damnnn! how come the other can afford to keep on relaxing and not thinking about boxing when boxing fans around the world are waiting in vaing!!!

Whaaat???? Marquez would be the one that should know who would win between Mayweather and Pacquiao? Dave Lahr you are only good at licking Money’s ass and nothing more. You better convince Money to come out, fight Pacman at all cost and prove his claim as the best.

@Tich
Your argument that PAC has the advantage in catchweight with ODLH is a misnomer. Remember PAC is coming from his last title fight as a lightweight (135 lbs) and has to go up as a welterwight just like JMM. It is hard to adjust to almost 10 lbs heavier for the fight. PAC would feel a more powerful punch from a welterweight than from a lightweight. The only advantage for PAC in this case is that he did not lose his speed in the fight.

Remember the Cotto fight, PAC was feeling out Cotto’s punches if he can take out his heavier punches from a natural welterweight.

That is the reason a catchweight was agreed in this case. Oscar to come down which would disadvantage him and PAC has to go up two weight division which would also disadvantage him.

Opinions are like bottoms…everyone has one and some stink more than others. I have seen different fighters who have fought both guys give different views on how the fight might evolve. I have seen ex fighters, current fighters and people who cover boxing give divergent views. So see my opening line about opinions again…
Besides, Marquez is angry that Manny beat him and knocked him down a trillion times whereas Floyd only did so once. Didn’t Frazier knock down and beat Ali the same Ali who beat Foreman who destroyed Frazier? And didn’t Norton bust Ali’s jaw and giave him heel in 3 fights? In fact should have gotten the decision in their 3rd. He got smoked by Foreman.
The thing is styles make fights and Manny looks like a bad matchup for Floyd at this stage of his career. Manny is improving and hitting harder at the higher weight while Floyd does not and in fact, is less aggressive than before. Manny’s busy style and power will create many problems for Floyd who likes a very slow pace now. Styles make fights and this is a very good match up. Offense vs defense! Power vs skills and speed vs speed. Heart vs guile. It is quite compelling IMO!

@ tich

ofcourse pacman will not demand a catchweight at floyd coz the height is not a problem..will floyd fight margarito, williams and martinez at 154? LOL!

@Tich
So excuses for Pink Floyd, as usual, you did not answer the question about JMM’s advantage. So I guess NIL.

@Floyd who says- Floyd was coming out of retirement of alomost 2 yrs and he was ring rusty when he fought JMM ,Floyd we can say weight advantage but the difference in skill pliz u cant attribute to weight advantage. My point was whether it was who and who called out Pac but the fact remains the same Catchweights favours him thats why i dont see him beating up Floyd coz there will be no catchweight there i suppose

@ kevin

coz they are all jealous and how a midget whooped there asses!

#Anonymous–How is he DUCKING any of these guys when they havent even discussed fighting any of these guys. I said POTENTIAL fights with him! U and other Pac fans are so quick to say he is ducking or afraid of fighters because he doesnt fight them! Why would he POSSIBLY be scared of Bradley?! Berto wouldnt bring any money to a fight with Mayweather and his dad has already said that Martinez might be a future opponent for his son so how is he DUCKING them! If someone is “ducking” someone just because they have not fought yet, then I guess that means I’m ducking fighting you because we havent fought yet. And he just might be fightin one of these guys in his next fight! U nor I know WHAT he is going to do next! Next excuse please.

all these fans who attack writers for the things they quote are crazy this man is reporting on something juan manuel marquez said a man who has faced both and by the way ricky hatton already said mayweather would beat pacquiao his skills are far superior to pacquiao and by saying that i am not bashing manny i love manny but i’m sure that if they ever fight mayweather would win and by stating my opinion i will be attacked by fans that just makes them ignorant

@Floyd who says- The fact that u can agree on something does not mean it will be right like Oscar coming down from 154 to 147 and cotto at catchweight. Dont concetrate on other fighters advantages only, concetratr also on Pac,s advantages in his catchweight territories.

These dudes who talk about Pacquiao beating Hatton faster etc. seem not to understand the concept of different fighters and different styles. George Foreman destroyed Joe Frazer, knocking him down 7 times. Ali lost to Frazer once and beat him twice but couldn’t knock him down. Ali wasn’t a one-punch knockout fighter. Ali beat Foreman though because that one-punch knockout fighter will still lose to a beater boxer. Pacquiao is a southpaw so gets leverage at angles that expose an orthodox fighter. These same angles are not open to two orthodox fighters because their footwork and stance protects against it. Floyd is the better boxer by a huge margin. Marquez is smart to pick Floyd.

@ Insider

Go watch the Pacquiao vs Hatton fight and then come again. Oh by the way, that one punch knock out heard round the world was on the 2nd round.

@Floyd who??? says- u only mention advantages when it concerns Floyd and how about Pac? against ODLH, against Cotto, now against Margarito. Dont try to justfy Pac.s advantages by using the word agreed.

DAVID LAHR, PLEASE TELL THIS ONE TO MARQUEZ i can beat him with my other hand tied at the back is already a goner no boxing career he just want to make one last big pay.

Thank u for speaking the TRUTH brotha Marquez! Pac wouldnt STAND A CHANCE against Mayweather! Pac has NO DEFENSE and has NO boxing skills. He is just a brawler and his management ONLY picks fighters for him to fight that have a “straight-ahead” type of style where they fight head first without any defense. Mayweather would pick him apart all night. And to all of the people who say that May is “scared” of Pacquiao, it seems more that Pacquiao is the one who is “scared”. Scared to take the RANDOM drug test! Mayweather made it perfectly clear right after he beat Mosely in the interview(Go back and watch the interview with Mayweather after the fight to see for yourself) that if there was no RANDOM testing, then there would be NO FIGHT! Every other fighter that is a potential opponent for Mayweather(Paul Williams, Sergio Martinez, Miguel Cotto, Alfredo Angulo, Andre Berto and Timothy Bradley) have all said that they would be MORE THAN WILLING to take random testing, so why wont Pac?! That shows that PAC is the one who is SCARED that he might get exposed for the fraud that he is without his “MIghty Mouse juice”. So PLEASE, Pac fans, find another lame-ass excuse for ya boy, because NONE of them have been valid so far.

If Floyd goes win by Unanimous that’s very difficult to him because Pacquiao is a hitter puncher that probably can Knock out a boxer… from his right hand hitting like claw hammer and his left hand like a lead hammer… Yes Floyd is a intelligent person that’s why he doesn’t want to fight Pacquiao because he knows he can’t win by scoring like Manny Pacquiao….

he is telling the truth