Marquez feels he lost nothing from Mayweather bout, says Floyd out-weighed him by 15 pounds
July 22nd, 2010
By Eric Thomas: At yesterday’s conference call, WBA/WBO lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez (50-5-1, 37 KO’s) seemed eager to face Juan Diaz (35-3, 17 KO’s) in a rematch on July 31st at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada. Marquez, 36, spoke about a number of things, such as he’s still drinking his own urine, he doesn’t plan on leaving the lightweight division after this fight, and badly wants a rematch with Manny Pacquiao.
Marquez was beaten in his last fight by Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a one-sided 12 round decision defeat in September 2009. They were supposed to be fighting at a 144 pound catch weight. Marquez weighed in at 142, but Mayweather weighed in at 146, two pounds over the limit.
Marquez says that Mayweather was even bigger the night of the fight, saying “It was approximately 15 pounds once we got inside the ring.” If this is true, then Marquez, weighing 142, was basically fighting a middleweight version of Mayweather on that night. Mayweather did look awfully big in the ring compared to Marquez on that night. Marquez looked too small and much too slow for Mayweather.
Marquez isn’t overlooking Diaz and is planning on giving him his utmost concentration right now. Marquez isn’t saying what he’ll be doing next. There’s speculation that Golden Boy Promotions, who promotes both Amir Khan and Marquez, is going to push Marquez to move up in weight – at least for this one fight – to take on the 23-year-old Khan for his WBA light welterweight title.
If Marquez gets offered enough money, he’ll probably wind up doing it. His trainer Nacho Beristain doesn’t think Marquez should fight at light welterweight, saying “Juan is of a small physique and for him to compete at those higher weights is very difficult.”
Beristain is right. Marquez is pushing himself as it is to fight at lightweight. He only moved up to lightweight in order to follow after Pacquiao. Marquez has moved up from featherweight, super featherweight and now lightweight trying to get fights with Pacquiao. If not for that, Marquez would still likely be fighting at featherweight and dominating.
Marquez’s big dream is to fight Pacquiao for the third time. Marquez says “Manny Pacquiao, that’s my desire. I want it so bad. I want that third fight with him before my career ends. And maybe another one would be like Erik Morales or a Ricky Hatton, but Manny Pacquiao for sure.”
Of those fighters mentioned, it’s likely that only Morales is a doable fight. Pacquiao is tied up fighting Top Rank fighters for the next year, and there’s a chance that he could face Floyd Mayweather Jr. in between that. Unless Pacquiao sticks around for a couple of more years and completely exhausts all the Top Rank fighters that Bob Arum has in his stable, there’s probably little chance of a third fight between Pacquiao and Marquez.
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@Rico-sshhh, rock-a-by baby on the tree top….shhh, go back to sleep, you’re having a nightmare, very bad nightmare. JMM has no chance on Pac on reality so wipe it out in your dreams, that’s bad!
@Nonsense -what youre saying is really nonsense.
Floyd could have been 15lbs lighter than Marquez and still would beat him. Floyd has to many skills for anyone in his weight class.
Marquez is such a joke! He was offered to fight Manny last year, and what did his promoter do, demanded a 50/50 split? Marquez doesn’t realize he’s not a PPV attraction, so there goes his last chance. What an idiot!!
gustavo
mayweather stepped on the scales at 150 against oscar..thats the most mayweather has every weighed on record so im sure hes about maybe 155 now on fight nigt when he fought mosley but not when he fought marquez..mayweather does not have a 160 frame every so stop it lol
Just checked the FM/SSM fight night weights. That was the biggest I’d ever seen FM…he weighed 152…so u telling me in the Marquez fight he weighed 160?…stop it
Lol mayweather weighed 160 lbs?!?!? Yea rite!!! Anyway it way it goes that fight ends up the same. S.featherweight, light, lightW don’t matter. Same result
listen up dumbasses mayweather was at least close to 160 when he fought marquez. myaweather didnt even want to weight himself on fight night. and when he faced Oscar there was no weight in on fight night so for all you saying that he weighted 150 on fight night its a liar.
marquez pacquiao saga is done! pacquiao will not fight below welterweight anymore. and marquez cant bring his power to welterweight.
JMM fans and Pac haters can’t really get over JMM’s loss to Pacman. No matter what they do, they can no longer reverse the decision, close as it might be. If JMM wants a rematch, he should be the one to go up in weight rather than Pacman who is comfortable at welterweight.
Floyd the conman… had beaten the tiny Marquez and old Mosley. And many says he is the best…
@Joe Dawg,
Can’t win a fight on your @ss? Tell Calzaghe that (vs. Hopkins); tell Bradley that (vs. Holt); tell Sam Peter that (vs. McCline – he was down 3 times also…).
Countless others…
@ Big Lo
yup! he knew that he lost that fight, he didnt deserve the win, sure he knocked down marquez but he got schooled the rest of the fight, but pacquiao wont give him a rematch, if he did, he’d try and have marquez move up to welterweight, which obviously isnt JMM’s effective weight class
U can’t win a boxing match on your ass, he needs to get over the loss to pac. I would love to see a another rematch though, 140 should be fair. Don’t think it will happen, pac’s got to much going on at 147 to move back down to 140. It would be awesome though, there’s some great fights down there, guy’s who actually WANT to fight, unlike some ducking pu$$y’s that will remain nameless.
@Rico,
Exactly! In fact, his team was consoling him (I think he had his head in Buboy’s chest), and then when they announced his name, he spun around REAL QUICK.
He did not think he won that fight (I’m glad you noticed his reaction also).
He’s essentially saying it was rigged anyway.
@ BIG LO
I said won more rounds on judges scorecards, thats including both fights, he got knocked down a total of 4 times in those 2 fights but he outboxed him the rest of the time. You and I both know that in the old school days when they use to score rounds, that JMM would win, remember in the 2nd fight, when they were announcing the judges scores, pacquiao walked over to JMM’s corner to congratulate Nacho and everybody, and when they announced Pacquiao won, pacquiao turned his head all quick and was had this surprised look on his face, he knew he lost and had gotten a gift decision.
motownhitman says:
July 22, 2010 at 10:28 am
Jazz..the catchweight issue with the Floyd JMM fight was that it served to equal the playing field for JMM NOT Floyd. Floyd was coming down in weight..Pac on the other hands makes people come down in weight to give him the advantage!! Big difference DUH!
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You eff’n idiot. Floyd bloated the guy coming up 2 weight division higher and cheated him 2 lbs. over the limit. On the other hand PAC was going up facing bigger fighters in JWW and WW.
@Nepe,
Thanks.
CompuBox Punchstats
Total Marquez Pacquiao
Landed 172 157
Thrown 511 619
Pct. 34% 25%
Jabs Marquez Pacquiao
Landed 42 43
Thrown 201 314
Pct. 21% 14%
Power Punches Marquez Pacquiao
Landed 130 114
Thrown 310 305
Pct. 42% 37%
* Pacquiao stunned in round two
* Marquez down in round three
* HBO PPV Executive Mark Taffet reported that this fight generated a record 400,000 buys representing $20.2 million in sales. The results were the most for any pay-per-view telecast at a weight below welterweight in boxing history.
* Most boxing experts had Marquez winning over Pacquiao.
* Pacquiao wins the vacant Ring Magazine jr. lightweight world title. Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquiao but did not believe he won the fight.
@Anonymous,
I definitely remember the excuse about the gloves (it may have been legit, and it may not have been – but Pac did KO Morales in the next two fights with his Reyes gloves).
But, I DO NOT remember the excuse about the blood (that excuse didn’t surface until much later – as far as I recall).
@ Mayor,
That’s exactly right.
@Rico
JMM won more rounds in BOTH fights (not just the 1st fight)…
when pacquiao lost to morales he madeup all kinds of excuses, that the glove were not the ones he wanted, that he had blood drawn from him… WHAT, NO BODY REMEMBERS THAT!!!
if JMM stops kissing the canvas, then maybe he can win the fight. if you don’t like the judges decision, then have JMM KO pacquiao. don’t let it reach the judge’s decision.
Juan said it right after the 1st fight, “one round dont make a fight”. I had juan winning 8 or 9 rounds in the 1st fight.. I know I know the knock downs.. Thats all pac had thou is knock downs.. Juan out boxed pac the rest of that fight and got robbed by BOBS judges!!
all i know is that JMM won more rounds on the judges scorecards than Pacman did. That’s a fact.
Should there be a 3rd fight between JMM and Pacman, im pretty sure JMM needs at least 5 gallons of his own urine to keep up with the fight.
Mayweather>pacquiao says:
July 22, 2010 at 5:13 am
U guys are all ignorant. Marquez outboxed and outclassed manny everytime they stepped in the ring together. A third fight with marquez is the last thing pacquiao wants. Marquez has proven he’s more than capable of outboxing manny. Go back and watch the first 2 fights between them Pactards.
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I watched it over and over again! pac won on that first fight instead draw..he put marquez to the canvas 3x, but marquez was not able to put Pacman to the canvas
good talk BIG LO
floyd is a cheater and a fraud! viva mexico!!!! ariba ariba
Floyd is in too good of shape to blow up like that overnight. I’m pretty sure that JMM weighed @ 145-146 on fight night, and Floyd weighed @ 151-152.
I seriously doubt there was a double-digit weight differential.
But, he certainly lost something from that fight because of the one-sided beating he took (at his advanced age), but I still think he’s on top of his game (well enough to spank Diaz and to contend with Pac 3).
To all the fans who think Pac will destroy JMM in a rubber match, does it take 3 or 4 chances to prove that? It’s certainly possible, but not very probable (although JMM is coming off of a big loss AND he is getting older…).
one thing sucks is that win, lose or draw a fighter gets the same. I’d like to see that 20% swings to the winner.
yuo guys r so ignorant paquial is good but member not invinciblw member erick morales manny got messt member marquez he got out boxed 2 figths not once and y do they call him the mexecutioner when he is affraid of Marquez? lol u guys dont know anything about boxing u guys only know what ppl comment and post , watch some boxing f@#S
MARQUEZ MAYWEATHER WIPE YOUR ASS STOP MAKEING UP STORIES A LOST IS A LOST
Jazz..the catchweight issue with the Floyd JMM fight was that it served to equal the playing field for JMM NOT Floyd. Floyd was coming down in weight..Pac on the other hands makes people come down in weight to give him the advantage!! Big difference DUH!
LIKE PACQUIAO WAS SAYING IN CLOTTEY POST FIGHT >IT’S AMAZING>
Loosing to Floyd serves Marquez right. He knew Floyd is coming in at 147 yet he still took the fight. He got bought by Floyd.
Now he’s crying because Floyd outweighed him and lost.
What a loser. Now he wants a Pacman fight…duh…let him try challenge Berto first or Khan.
We do not want to see Pacman sweep the floor with Marquez’s face this time around.
Floyd fooled boxing fans before when he retired and he’s doing it again with his bs, evasive move on Pacquiao. He needs to just man up and fight Pacquiao, with or without his pathetic excuses.
Juan is just after the money on his desire to fight Pac for the 3rd time. Pacquiao is after the big fights now and fighting Marquez is like a step backward for him. Pac is a welterweight and if Juan want a piece of him he’ll have to go over his best fighting weight which is lightweight. Pac will put him out for good at 147 lbs no question about it.
Mayweather weighed more just to win,We all know that a huge advangtage;And i hope juan manuel marquez gets a rematch with manny pacman
The problem with Juan Manuel is, he was not able to put the Pacman to the canvas. He talks too much, he thinks he’s better than Manny but he is not. He will go to sleep facing Manny for the 3rd time.
floyd usually weights 147 on night of fight. even when he fought delahoya at 154, he dropped down to 147 day of fight.
***** marquez mayweather was not a physical fight. marquez was just disected down to nothing. floyd knew everything he was going to do and made marquez look like he never fought a day in his life. floyds skill was just superior to marquez. was not a physical battle weight made no differance.
@nimrod
How do you know what Pacquiao agreed to? Why all of a sudden he can agree to terms now and not the first time? Money Mayweather will dance all over that chump. Pacquiao hasn’t even fought anybody worth talking about. (A drained Oscar, already beat up Cotto who has no kind of boxing skills thats why he never fought on PPV until Pacquiao and a bum name Clottey, who actually beat Cotto but you can’t let Cotto lose on Puerto Rican day in NY) Yall people kill me, real boxing fans know Pacquiao can’t be Mayweather. Have any of you ever considered Mayweather is just that good. Why are people trying to build a Great White Hope to beat this man, like i said maybe Money is just that good
to all mayweather fans, where’s your idol now? hiding under his mom’s fat ass! scared? hahaha! cowards. I was right from the beginning Floyd really don’t want to fight pacman. Pacman agreed to everything, floyd is gone!
Marquez just dont want to face the fact that he got schooled! He took the fight knowing how big Floyd is, he knew Floyd is one of the best. HE GOT PAID GREAT..Stop crying ,you took the fight. and no a few pounds would not have made a difference as the fight was not even close. It would be the same deal with pacaiuo. Juan beat pac twice , we all saw that and Floyd beats manny 10 out of 10 times! It just isnt a good matchup for pacaiuo..Pac is smaller, less reach, and way less skill(look at how beat up he gets fighting b-level guys). He is very ecxiting to watch WHEN he fights a qualified opponent but he lacks the overall skills to ever come close to beating Mayweather!!
If Marquez-Pacquiao III ever happens, I really fear for Marquez, cos Pacman will absolutely destroy him. One thing is for certain, it won’t take place at super-featherweight and Pacman is on peak form… he will take Marquez out and shut up those idiots that think Marquez won the first two fights (despite being knocked down 4 times in total – ROFL!!!)…
@badmfckr
Watch the Mayweather vs Marquez 24/7 on you tube. it shows him drinking it after taking a pi$$
He’s doing what with his urine??? That was a joke right?
U guys are all ignorant. Marquez outboxed and outclassed manny everytime they stepped in the ring together. A third fight with marquez is the last thing pacquiao wants. Marquez has proven he’s more than capable of outboxing manny. Go back and watch the first 2 fights between them Pactards.
pack man destroys Marquez, he wont be able to coupe with pacmans speed and angels. marques fights his hart out,never giving up but its over by the tenth, eleventh round. rather see this fight then watch floyed dance and jab to a victory. as skilled as he is , i just found him entertaing to watch. skill and natral abilaty to burn. but just boring.
marquez would be no match for pacman
So you are telling me that both fighters agree to a catchweight at 144 lbs. A majority of Floyd huggers hate catchweight fights but Floyd Jr is always an exception to the rule for them. But Floyd is actually 15 lbs heavier at fight night. So Floyd only paid a 2 lbs penalty at $600K which is peanuts to Floyd.
JMM, you not only lost the fight but you were outsmarted even before the fight.
pacman will Definitely ko marquez again and again.