Does it matter if Mayweather is afraid of Pacquiao if he still whips him with ease?
By Chris Williams: I don’t believe for a second that Floyd Mayweather Jr. is afraid of Manny Pacquiao, but let’s pretend that Mayweather is afraid of Pacquiao for the sake of argument. So what if Mayweather is afraid of him? Fear is a natural thing, and it goes away quickly once the fight starts. It doesn’t matter one bit if Mayweather is afraid of Pacquiao, because once the punches start flying, I see Pacquiao reduced to a pile of bloody flesh on the canvas. Mayweather, whether he’s afraid of Pacquiao or not, will still be just as hard to hit and just as quick with his hands.
I hate to drizzle on their parade but it doesn’t matter a hill of beans if Mayweather is afraid of Pacquiao. He’s going to fight him, and the fear won’t last once he discovers how easy it is to hit Pacquiao. I think there’s going to be a lot of sad Pacquiao fans the day after the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight, as they wonder what happened to Pacquiao. I just hope they realize then that fear doesn’t equal victory. It can be when you have a fighter that doesn’t fight to the best of their ability and doesn’t take chances in the ring.
Mayweather isn’t that way. Once they get in the ring, Mayweather will go on cruise control and start whipping on Pacquiao like he’s beating an old dirty rug that he has hung on a fence-line. It’s going to be simple for Mayweather to beat the tar out of Pacquiao next year. And all those Pacquiao fans that were in ecstasy thinking that Mayweather was afraid of Pacquiao, they’ll be crying in their bulut.
The way I see it, Mayweather is going to be beating Pacquiao like a bad habit, and giving him an old fashioned beating that he won’t soon forget. The lesson here will be that fear means jack when you get in the ring with a superior fighter. That kind of stuff only works when you’re facing an inferior fighter that was going to lose anyway. It doesn’t work when you’re facing a guy like Mayweather.
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Floyd is not thinking of boxing right now because Pacman agreed to fight him and to all his nonsense request.
mayweather a fighter who has won 9 belts in 5 weight classes fought a lot of fighters in the prime and beat them with such ease and still to date is still undefeated while pac has lost what like 3 times or something one to a man who floyd didn’t even lose a round to. Bottom line pac gonna come out and just throw crazy punches and has shown he is not the most accurate puncher, example clottey. against a man who is always on the move and hands down one of the best counter punchers in the world. always a hi output fighters kryptonite. just like a slick fighter to a brawler. and im sure when pac starts missing and getting caught with flush shots his work output when surely slow down.
While we all know it will be a 12 round fight i would have to say floyd by decison.
Just look at the mosely fight mosely a good strong fighter once he started getting counter punched frooze and didn’t know what to do same as marquez a man who beat pacquio.
Bob Arum Called Out for Lying by Top Rank Insider
By CJ James (Contributor) on July 21, 2010 1 like
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Jed Jacobsohn/Getty Images Defending Bob Arum is quite hard for a number of reasons. He’s a famous liar, well-known to veteran fans as a promoter that tends to totally exaggerate negotiations to ensure that he comes out looking holier than thou.
Team Mayweather wasn’t even the first to make these claims. It’s been coming out of his own camp.
Michael Marley, the day after Arum’s infamous “teleconference,” came right out and said it. This was days before Leonard Ellerbe spoke.
Marley, a Top Rank/Pacquiao writer, and a close friend of Arum’s, was just as perplexed by Arum’s deadline. He didn’t get it; he couldn’t work out what Arum was up to. So he went digging.
He spoke to his Top Rank people, and was shocked with the answer. Again, this was days before Ellerbe spoke.
Negotiation just hadn’t been happening. They’d started, briefly, but capitulated almost instantly, according to Marley.
Marley claimed that Arum had only spoken to Greenburg once, months ago. And that conversation was little more than Arum telling him his demands. Demands that Golden Boy just weren’t interested in.
That’s basically it. No meetings, no talks, no agreements, no contracts, no deals.
Bob Arum, according to Marley, just spent the next five weeks “blowing smoke to the media,” to try and confuse the situation and giving the impression that he was breaking his back to make the deal.
When in truth, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao was the last thing Arum wanted for 2010.
Why did the talks fail? According to Marley, contrary to most reports, Pacquiao was unwilling to move an inch on drug testing. And Mayweather was unwilling to move an inch on money.
Pretty predictable.
As another example of the way Arum operates, it also turns out that “Pacquiao accepting 14 days” was just more “smoke” as part of the Arum charade.
The original quote from Pacquiao was 100 percent fake. Arum has admitted as much. The second quote from Pacquiao was real, but for PR purposes. Pacquiao’s manager denied it was accurate, when quizzed soon after.
To confirm the charade, only days ago, Arum was asked straight up, what drug terms Pacquiao had agreed to and he was unable to give an answer.
This is a man who had an agreement with Mayweather’s people? He couldn’t even answer what the supposed drug agreement was?
So what actually happened? According to Marley, Arum made these claims days before anyone from team Mayweather spoke out.
Well, Arum has allegedly been fixing a Pacquiao vs. Margarito bout in the Middle East for months. But he knew full well that he couldn’t make the fight without being seen to be trying to make Mayweather vs. Pacquiao first.
Plus, HBO, after pressure from Golden Boy, flat out told him that he’d have to approach Mayweather first, or they would not work on a Margarito fight.
Arum, according to Marley, approached Greenburg with his terms for the fight. Terms, Marley suspects, that were never going to be accepted. Terms, that in regards to drug testing, were even worse than the last fight.
That’s basically it. Golden Boy felt Arum was not being serious, and had no intention of negotiating further.
Arum played the media, and proclaimed that he was “waiting for Floyd to accept his offer.” Which, I guess, was technically true. The big lie came with Arum’s claims that these terms had been negotiated and accepted.
Marley claims that this is just 100 percent false. There were no real talks. No deals. No agreements. No contracts.
In a strange way, neither side is technically lying. Most likely, after taking legal advice, they’ve worded it all very carefully.
Arum claimed that he was waiting for Mayweather to agree to his offer, and had been dealing with Greenberg. The problem being, his dealings with Greenberg amounted to one conversation in which he sent him an awful offer, knowing full well it wouldn’t work. No negotiations, talks, or discussions whatsoever.
Arum’s offer. Countdown clock. Lots of BS about “terms being agreed by both sides.”
Mayweather’s people are technically speaking the truth as well. There were never any negotiations, talks, agreements, deals. Just Arum blowing smoke to the press.
Why did Arum exaggerate his efforts so much? Because he wanted to set up Margarito vs. Pacquiao and couldn’t justify it without trying to pin the blame on someone else.
Golden Boy? Well Marley claims that there quite literally was a gag order. It’s just the fact that the negotiations ended after about two days. You can tell when the fight fell through. Arum started talking to the media twice a day!
Marley claims that Golden Boy’s position with Arum is to just let him talk, and not justify his claims with replies, safe in the knowledge that most of the sport world knows he talks out of his behind.
Arum could well find himself in a tough position, however. Dan Raphael reported that Ellerbe is not only one of the most honest guys in boxing, he’s also been speaking to Greenberg regularly for weeks. These daily conversations have reportedly gone on after his claim that basically either Greenberg or Arum is a stone cold liar.
Which suggests to most that Greenberg agrees with his pronouncement.
Again, Marley is a Top Rank guy, and a noted Pacquiao backer. He reported that Arum’s claims of “negotiations” and “agreements” were phony, days before any Mayweather person made any comment.
Mayweather’s guy’s wording is probably a bit controversial, and not 100 percent true, but both Marley and Ellebre are basically singing from the same hymn sheet.
Arum completely and utterly exaggerated all claims of “agreements,” “deals,” “contracts,” and
NO MAS! I’m not going back in the ring with that monster. He must have 4 arms or something. He hit me twice with the same hand. At least he said i’m still his hero. Awwwww.
An Honest Pacman Fan
I understand what you’re saying but Hoya was taller, weighed 154+ and was by far in his prime better than anything Pac is today. Not saying he was prime at the time just stating that Hoya over all is better than anything Pac will ever be.
Also note that Hoya has good technical skills. Pac is a glorified slugger who wont stop punching. He’s a faster Margarito.
Like I said before I think throwing a lot of (wildly at times) punches is a double edge sward. Pacs off balance a lot and throws out of retaliation. Not good when facing an accurate puncher.
I just cant no matter how I look at it see Pac adjusting and being a technical fighter to outsmart, out think, outbox, and out land Floyd. Throwing a lot of punches wont just win him the fight. He will miss and look like an amateurish slugger.
I think Floyd will be playing a great game of chess while Pac will be attempting to play an exciting game of checkers. He’s just not on the level. Throwing a lot of punches just wont do it because Floyd wont fight Pac’s fight.
But I wont argue because you do have a valid point(s) and I agree to a certain extent. I just see a different outcome than you do. I think someone with size, speed and power beats Floyd, not sure who yet (maybe Sergio). Only thing IMO making this fight with Pac somewhat of a challenge is because he’s a southpaw. If he was orthodox I wouldnt even consider anything but a embarrssing loss by Pac.
Manny wins already… by default! LOL
Mayweather? Nowhere to find… no excuses can be made this time… He proves that.. he’s just a big mouth!
@F.L.A
If you want to dominate Pac, you would want to put your combinations in there… because if you will be too consentrated on your defense and just potshot all night.. there is a massive chance that you will lose on points because you will get out worked…
That’s just my 2 cents…
Just think about why Dela Hoya got a split decision…
Because one judge somehow saw it as Dela Hoya outworked Mayweather…
why are pe0ple hating 0n arum,pac and margaret0 when I REAPET FL0YD W0NT SIGN THE FIGHT,what kind 0f debati0n is this stupidity!is this h0w y0u put m0ney 0n y0ure table s0n,creating files 0f lies<get a real j0b and leave b0xing specially the hardc0re fans n0t wanna bes!!!!!!!!!!!
An Honest Pacman Fan
No doubt about it. But is that a good thing or a bad thing?
@F.L.A
There is one flaw to that comparison between Floyd and JMM…
JMM doesn’t mind trading and giving his combos in there…. Floyd tends to just potshot….
Cheese Whiz,
That’s the entire point (JMM style gave Pac problems). Well Mayweather technically beat JMM. Weight put a big question mark on it but I don’t think it would have made that big of a difference. Mayweather’s technical abilities are just on another level and I think Pac is the one who’s scared or better put nervous to fight a fighter that has technical and precise abilities such as JMM and Mayweather (add speed to the factor). He wants a come forward toe to toe fighter/brawler and he’s getting it vs Margarito that’s for sure. A made to “look good” fight, nothing technical about it. Just swing for the fences type fight. Nothing to it.
But of course Pac wouldn’t fight Marg if a 154 title (at 150) wasn’t on the line but leave it up to Bob Arum to make it happen this way. I like Pac but since leaving 135 I don’t see anything great. Just leap frogging with Arum picking his fights that will (on paper) enhance his legacy. That I just don’t respect.
As for Mayweather not fighting any of them. I’m not sure. PWILL? Probably not. Sergio Martinez? I don’t think so. Berto? I think he might take the “challenge” and in return people will bash the fight calling Berto green or a nobody. It would be a good fight but haters of Floyd will bash Berto where as if Pac would face him they would speak very highly. It’s funny how it works. They’ve already done it with Hoya and Hatton. I don’t think Mayweather would fight either Bradley or Alexander. This to me would be like fighting JMM all over again (fighting another small fighter). He would really get bashed fighting these two..
Anyway I understand from a business stand point why this fight is happening, I just don’t respect either party for making this fight. I also don’t understand how people can bash Mayweather and not Pac.
@F.L.A
JMM was the most technical fighter Manny has faced and his style is definitely a tough one for manny because he throws a lot of combinations and like Manny doesn´t back down and tends to throw more back at you the more you hit him. Marquez is still a good fighter but as one poster mentioned he doesn´t hold the weight as well moving up, his fight against Floyd was really a joke, he was moving up 2 weight classes and never really had a chance.
I totally agree with the fighters you mentioned being better fights than this one, no doubt about it, I also don´t think Floyd will fight any one of those guys either. The reality is that this is a filler fight and a legacy fight at the same time. If Manny wins he gets another belt and that will enchance his legacy and this fight is a space filler until the potential fight next year against Floyd.
Being a business this fight while not popular with fans can be significant for Manny in terms of legacy for winning another belt. When his career is over they will talk about all the accolades, not the catchweights or who else he should have fought. I don´t know if Manny would be fighting Margarito if a belt wasn´t on the line.
Cheese Whiz
Correction on the “catchweight”. Pac fought Hoya at 147 a weight he hadn’t seen in years. But 147 is WW not a catchweight. That was my bad!
Cheese Whiz,
Well JMM wasn’t so called “fast” but had great counter punching and technical abilities. We know how both those fights went vs Pac. Styles make fights and JMM style gave Pac hell twice.
The entire idea behind Floyd fighting JMM was to show that his style could beat a guy that gave Pac hell. He wanted to show everyone that a future HOF like JMM could be picked apart. Buddy Mcgirt right before Floyd was about to figth JMM said it would be the toughest fight of Floyd’s career. Post fight he flip flopped and said Floyd cherry picked JMM. It was pathetic but the point was that some “experts” said JMM style could beat Floyd. Anyway the weight issue is an entire different story. We can compare JMM to Oscar De La Hoya. Floyd fought Oscar and beat him at his comfortable weight 154 . Pac beat him at a catchweight of 147 (Hoya was too dehydrated to even make 147), a weight he hadn’t seen in many years. I’ve never in my life seen Hoya look so bad. It was disgusting. Pac “beat” JMM at his comfortable weight where as Floyd fought him at a catchweight. Either way both fights where garbage.
Anyway, I think Berto at 147, Sergio Martinez at 147-154, PWILL at 147-154, Mosley at 147, even Bradley at 147 or Alexander at 140-147 would all be “better” fights than this one. It just shows you how Arum works. All of these guys are fast. The majority can box and have some technical abilities. Especially Sergio Martinez. This cat at times reminds me of a white version of Roy Jones jr . These are all real threats with of course Bradley and Alexander being at the bottom of the list. They still would be more legit and meaningful than fighting Margarito especially for a title in my opinion. People point fingers a Floyd no matter what he does. The funny thing is when Pac does the exact same thing people praise it. I don’t understand that.
Floyd will always beat Pacman!
With his mouth but not on the ring!
Floyd is very good with his mouth always open.
@F.L.A
I agree with what you are saying to a point regarding the technical fighters but in all honestly besides Floyd who else would be considered a good technical fighter, there really aren´t many fighters that fall under that category?
There will not be any KO’s in this fight. Fireworks yes, but no KO’s!!!What I like about Mexican fighters is that the majority of them are true warriors. They do not fear blood. I hope this warrior mentality comes out in CHEATO and he delivers a mealtrain ending ass whoopin.
However; even though I think this will go 12, Margarito will lose on points. No matter what you PACTARDS think, Pacquiao does not have the power of Mosely. He will not KO Cheato. The later rounds will be for the winner. Probably Pacquiao.
Cheese Whiz,
I’m not really sure. I guess Roach and Manny will have a time dealing with that when the time comes. I think it will all come down to how Floyd adjusts. I really think he will control the fight and Pac will only try to do his thing but I don’t think he will be successful.
Anyway I’ve never liked Margarito. I actually picked Mosley to have him out before 9. I NEVER doubted Mosley beating Marg. Anyone with speed, endurance and decent punching power will destroy Marg. I can’t speak too much of him because I haven’t seen all his fights nor do I really care. I don’t dislike him anymore than I already did because of the plaster scandal. I just never liked the guy (in the ring).
Pac will have Margarito out faster than Mosley did. His work rate will double and Pac will bring a little bit of fire power behind those shots. This is GODS way of punishment for attempting to cheat vs Mosley and IF (only god knows) he cheated vs Cotto and any others. Pac in a sense is doing GODS work on Mararito. I don’t see Margarito winning one round. I really don’t. Arum’s smart. He knows this is a look good fight for Pac.
Arum won’t put Pac in with anyone with Technical abilities, has speed and can box. Think of that last fighter Pac faced that had these abilities…
Floyd is not scared of overrated Pacquiao. Arum is scared of losing his latest money maker,simple as that. If anyone needs any proof of how carefully managed & protected Manny is,have a look & see how badly Pacquiao was beaten in his defeats.Now he is fighting another fighter coming off a defeat,for a title neither deserves a shot at.If the fight somehow gets made it’s already a Mayweather win.Even before the Mosley fight Floyd himself said he is only going to fight once a year, surely that was enough proof that the Pacquiao fight was not going to happen this year.I keep saying it Floyd Mayweather is the greatest fighter by far of the new millenium.Arum knows this & so will everyone else when their little filipino gets totally dominated & schooled by someone who truly is gifted & special once in a lifetime fighter, i for one am grateful to have been around to see it.Lets hope it happens,so all this ridiculous debating will end once & for all.or will it?
@F.L.A
I don´t see any other strategy for Pac to have a chance other than being aggressive, maybe cautiously aggressive but when Manny gets hit once he throws back 3 so I´m not sure how long he will be cautious and if he looks for spots it will be a long and boring night and a loss for Manny.
Magarito before the Mosley fight was one of the most feared fighters in boxing, he´s fought the best and I think only fighting 1 time in the last year and a half will hurt him but only time will tell how much. Margarito has experience with a high volume puncher when he fought P.Williams, paul threw 1200 punches in that fight and Margarito started very slow and clearly won the last 5 rounds or so. He´s a warrior and I´m not ready to count him out yet, margarito will come ready for a war and I think too many people have already wrapped the belt around Manny´s waist, i´m not ready to do that. I´m not saying Margarito will win but boxing is tricky and while on paper this fight should be won by Manny how many people were picking shane vs margarito before that fight?
Cheese Whiz,
I agree with that. I just don’t think Pac will be as aggressive as you think. He will at first until Floyd adjusts. Roach knows Pac cant just swing away, that in itself will be suicide. But like you said his endurance is what brings something different to the table. I don’t agree with Mosley being gassed. I think Floyd pressured him to fight his fight. It’s what Mayweather does. It wasn’t a high paced fight. Mosley just didn’t know how to deal with Floyd’s style. He couldn’t adjust. He said Floyd adjusted but not him. He was looking for something that wasn’t there after he tasted blood in round 2.
“You gonna have to punch with’em… instead of keep waiting for a spot. You inside looking for a perfect shot, THERE IS NONE” – Coach Nazim Richardson
Mosley was just looking for something that wasnt there.
Anyway I don’t think Pac has the technical abilities to adjust and deal with Mayweather’s style in the ring. But as you said his endurance will be key. Throwing a lot of shots will be a double edged sword though. In all I don’t think the fight will be anywhere near as good as people want to think it will be. Floyd’s fights aren’t exciting. They’re technical and that’s what I love about it. I’m a technical guy who likes precision and I’ve never seen anyone better. But Pac’s great I just don’t think his style will match Floyd’s.
On the flip side, Margarito will be out before the bell sounds for round 10.
Floyd does not really need a trainer, he knows what to do with Manny when they fight as he loves saying, the blueprint to beat Pac is already done. One thing that the blueprint failed to accomplished is fighting a southpaw in which really is the real reason for having fear even if allowed to use his drug injection before the fight. and he’ll be fighting not an ordinary southpaw he’ll be fighting the best southpaw in the world. i see his defense collapsing easily in the early rounds after very strong combinations that will pepper him, his shoulder will dropped automatically due to severe pain, he’s feet wherein already has been weakened in previous fight will take its toll under tremendous pressure from Pacquiao’s onslaught, his counter will not affect Pacquiao at all, already tested against Cotto & Clottey who is more powerful than Floyd. If he knows he can really beat Pac, he’ll not have second thought of fighting him.
@F.L.A. WE-DON’T-PLAY
True dat!
@F.L.A
Styles make fights and Floyd´s style is difficult for anyone because he has the speed to slip your punches while countering you. Manny has a straight forward, throw a ton of punches from all angles until you just can´t keep up style. I think the ONLY way Pac can win is by throwing an absurd amount of punches from the time the bell rings until the fight ends. If Pac chooses to pick spots and throw less punches he will lose easily just like Shane did, that´s not Manny´s game, he´s never done that and he won´t start doing that agains Floyd, it would be suicide.
Manny has one thing going for him that none of Floyd´s previous opponents had, superior conditioning. Manny can throw a hundred punches every round for 12 and not get tired, Shane was gassed in round 3. His only chance for winning is sticking on Floyd like white on rice from the get go, not slowing down and not allowing Floyd to pick him apart, if he tries to box Floyd he has no chance.
Floyd’s On Roids,
“Mo’ money you come across the mo’ problems you see” – Notorious B.I.G.
@Phoocaquiao, why is Pacquiao fighting Margarito rather than Mosely? Because he knows he can’t win.
Midgets…Is Floyd allowed to take a vacation? He just whipped the #1 ranked WW in the world and the #3 P4P champion in the world. He is allowed to step away for a little while.
Pacquiao made $13 Million and this is what happened to that:
1) US taked it at 35%
2) Arum took his 27%
3) Roach took his 10%
4) Ariza took his 3%
5) GBP took their 3%
6) 100 Crew Entourage took PLENTY!
Pacquiao had better fight…AND SOON!
Rather than Mosely he chooses…CHEATO!!!
HYPE OF THE DECADE !!! HOTD
wait a minute..WHERE R ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE SAYING MOSELEY IS GOING TO DECK MAYWEATHER, U CANT WAIT BLABLA BLA….WHERE R U ,I SAY….ALL OF U SUCCERS BOW….
COME OUT OF YOUR CAVES, EMERGE FROM THE ROCK UNDER WHICH U CRAWLED. U FOLKS TALKING ABOUT PAC CAN FORGET IT.. KEEP YOUR TALK GOING…WE WILL SEE IF IT WILL BE.. U R JUST LIKE THE HATTON FANS,DISRESPECTING THE U.S ANTHEM..WE WILL SEE.AND AGAIN, MAYWEATHER WILL BE GRACIOUS and forgiving in victory, saying paciao is a great fighter…mayweather fights like i used to fight,preety and gracious, like when i beat sonny liston. his style is almost like mine apart from the blocks.
u dont know why i was able to predict the rounds my opponents will fall. its the same principle of boxing mayweather uses ,exept he doesnt always finish like i did. thats because he is used to fighting bigger fighters .he has only fought a couple not bigger lately. so getting of the habbit of not finishing hard is not easy, he just has to work on it.of course he aint the greatest like he says, he gotta fight sony to be the greatest money. but he is preety boy close..
Chris Williams article make sense on Floyds fans, it activates all their senses except the common
This article does not make any sense because Mayweather wont fight Paquiao.
he can’t tell him to sign, he himself is afraid, this the characteristic of Floyd and his fans, their braveness is just confined in the keyboard other than the mouth he he he !
yhis dude is calling pacquioa inferior and mayweather superior,hey dave lahr,whatkind 0f r0tting head and life d0 y0u have s0n!
youre full 0f shyt,why d0nt y0u tell y0ure b0y t0 sign the fight!
youre delusional dave lahr,when are you g0na write s0mething that makes sense!
the “Prima Donna” millionaire as he claims does not pay his rent, reason: “he is on vacation”, real reason : he purchase a truck load of Xlycaine to ensure that he’ll win against Pacquiao
PBF is not afraid of anybody any 140-150 pound fighter in the world, including Pacquiao. However, his unreasonable demands are the cause that this fight has not happened. Whatever his reasons, it is up to him to make it happen or not. This fight would be good, but the boxing world will not end if it does not happen.
There are plenty of up and coming contenders for both men to fight to make good matches. (however, Margarito is not one of them)
how many times i have to tell you that im busy with my family ,friend playing hide and seek.you people dont understand that huh.
@ 50 centavos
I just read the article on Floyd Mayweather Jr. failing to pay rent for the rental space that houses his promotion company. In which he was evicted this month, just like he failed to make monthly payments of $9000 on a 2007 mercedes Maybach 57s. He also has problems failing to pay taxes to the IRS on time. It’s no different from him failing to acknowledege his hard core fans on the deadline he was given to make the fight with Manny Pacquiao! You figure with all the money Floyd Jr. braggs about, that he makes, he can handle all of his money situations! On a different note, He can start demanding on being a part of all the state boxing commisions, and get involved in standardizing drug & blood testing for all the fighters, representing his cause! The Marquez-Diaz II & the Mosely-Mora fights are coming up, all GBP fighters. Ths would be a great opportunity to get involved with these fights, putting an effort to overlook mandatory drug & blood testing for all of the up and coming fights. And, spend his own money for all the doctors who perform the blood testing procedures. This will show that he is commited to cleaning up the sport of boxing, and not just singling out Manny Pacquiao! This would indeed show that he is TRUE, about cleaning up the sport of boxing! If he fails to do this, he lied again!
@zdrx
Can’t trust anything someone said Floyd says in a bar. Ive said some things in a bar that make no sense, and been quoted on saying some stuff that I would have never said like “I love you” to a fat girl.
this article was written as if the author is on fantasy…on wishful mode, tsk tsk tsk. what a pity. i hope someday he wakes up to reality that floyd had already packed his bags and left his cause, because of terrible fear.
oh let’s not pretend that floyd is scared, because fact is, floyd is REALLY scared. dana white asked floyd in a bar when will he fight pacman. floyd answered that he’s not that desperate. there you see it guys. with that statement, he view pacman as a monster that only desperate men has to face due to lack of option or choices in life. it’s as if to fight pacman is tantamount to a disaster or a suicide. he really doesn’t want to put himself at risk to champion his fan’s desires. he’s a coward 1000% no ifs, no buts.
Talk is very cheap and wether Mayweather is scared or not will only be seen if he ever shares the ring with Pacquiao;and that seems almost a no contest more chance of Amer Khan fighing Maidana or Katsidis in his next two fights.So after reading my comments make your own mind up if mayweather is scared or not? i have already made my mind up..
@chris williams
are you related to david lahr? are you twins? coz you sound like him. both of you hate the fighter of the decade, 3-time fighter of the year, the 7-time champ, the fighting congressman Manny….”Pacman”…..Pacquiao!!!!
you can write anything you want, but you cannot change what the world thinks of mayweather…THE GREATEST COWARD OF ALL TIME!
@Moo Yes but just like in football defense wins championships or in baseball u win in the postseason if you have great pitching mayweather is a bigger stronger faster smarter marquez and we saw how well pacman did against that style
Phoocquiao…who knew how they would carry their weight. Everyone talks smack about Floyd fighting JMM but DLH got a free pass cause he lost. Thats the difference the only reason why Floyd’s win over JMM was discredited is becasue he won, while Pac gets super props cause he beat the “bigger” guy who in fact weighed less come fight night. Everyone knew Oscar was weight drained and slow at 147 since he hadn’t fought at that weight class since 2001. Pac fought a scrub at 135, then moved up to 147 to fight DLH (that fight was a joke eventhough I was pulling for Pac), then he drops back to 140 to fight Hatton than back up again to 147 to fight for Cotto’s BELT at a catch weight but didn’t need a catch weight with Clottey who was supposed this super big guy (posed no threat) and now is fighting for the LMW belt at a catch weight against a guy that was KO’d 2 fights ago, was suspended still doesnt have a license to fight in the states and then fought some NO NAME dude in his first fight back. Come on if this was Floyd’s story you Pac fans would be screaming bloody murder.
@Author: You knew that in boxing and EVEN WRITING ARTICLES in the internet that you get more response from Pacfans for millions of people and that includes Mayweather’s knew who is the best.
5 years ago, try to make an article about Mayweather and for sure you’ll get nothing. But now, all articles are about boxing, and guess why???? PACQUIAO!!!! he@k, even other columnist are crossing-over to boxing just to get tags.
That’s right Floyd fans, get mad and take your frustrations out on the one dimensional Pacman for running Floyd out of boxing. Let’s give Floyd a pass for not backing up his statement of being the G.O.A.T. and say FU to all his fans and leave them chewing on toilet paper.
HEHEHE, I guess as soon as one starts to make sense around here, your post gets deleted. Thanks Chris! The Truth stings doesn’t it? =>
COTTO was the man to beat, MARG beat him making MARG the man then SHANE spanked him…SIMPLE MATH…that makes SHANE the man………….. wrong!!! COTTO spanked SHANE!…
@ I’m Good Enough
The best part about all the Floyd fans is that they’ve been buying all these lie’s. Specially about the no negotiation was going on lie. The new lie detector test they are now asking Arum to take is a text book move Manny Pacquiao doping, lol!… They know how to get the public and their fans involve in a Lynch Mob mentality.
A couple of months ago, you can actually quote Floyd Mayweather Jr. talking about a super fight at the end of the year during an interview.
@PHOOCQUIAO
How can you say that MOSELY wasn’t the champ of anything? Do you not remeber the hot topic of FLOYD not wanting MOSELY’s belt and MOSELY being stripped after the fight with FLOYD?
COTTO was the man to beat, MARG beat him making MARG the man then SHANE spanked him…SIMPLE MATH…that makes SHANE the man right??? Same with BALDIMAR…SPINKS was the man, JUDAH beat him and BALDIMAR beat JUDAH making him the man. Regardless of your opinion of BALDIMAR he was the man at the time and if it wasn’t FLOYD then it would have been someone else to go fight him.
DAVID DIAZ wasn’t wasn’t good then and he isn’t now…if he was the MAN at 135 then I wouldn’t say anything but he wasn’t! Atleast FLOYD beat BALDIMAR(the man at the time) and still gave JUDAH a fight.
@jesus
If you have to muster the balls to even be able to go to the negotiating table much less to step in the ring I HIGHLY doubt you have the stones to put a beating on anyone. Are we to believe that Floyd is standing in the mirror everyday telling himself how pretty looks, how much better he is than the midget until one day he actually buys it and signs the contract…..if you have to muster the balls to fight the biggest fight of the decade you have no place being in that fight period.
get over guys the fight is dead! it will never happen, and never will be, so get over it and move on. This writer is making money out of this fantasy article, so don’t hate him… he’s like a promoter milking out of you.
@SLIGHT
FLOYD fought ODLH at 154 with absolutly NO WEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, or REHYDRATION CLAUSE! FLOYD came in at the weight he was comfortable at and let OSCAR do what he wanted…
People might not want to give the Journeymen BALIDOMAR credit but he was the Lineal Champ and had got FIGHTER of THE YEAR. If what he did on that run doesn’t deserve credit then I don’t know who does. Nevermind the loses…remember PAC took the fight with LEDWABA as a replacement and made the best of his opportunity just like CARLOS.
And so what your saying is that because he’s favored to win that means the guy he’s fighting isn’t comp? Seems like there’s a lot of smart people putting money on a sure thing. Basically he’s going to have to be like RJJ and go up to 160 or 168 then come back down and fight DEVON or TIM then back up for you to consider him having comp. If FLOYD and PAC fought some of the same guys, why is it ok for PAC to fight those guys after FLOYD beat them but PAC is celebrated for it…oh because you guys keep putting him in the TOO SMALL category right? Their not comp when FLOYD fights them but good enough for PAC…oh ok I see the logic.
When Mayweather finally grows a pair of balls then maybe we’ll see the beat down of Pacquaio’s life. But until then, off to the wonderful wizard of oz we go in search of a heart for the lion who grew up in a zoo.
@haha
Shane JUST fought, just like Floyd he´s not going to fight against this year and why would he fight Shane right after losing to Floyd, so haters like you could then do a 180 and scream ¨why is Manny fighting a guy Floyd just beat??¨ Haters like you are so predictable.
@ Haha..
I could answer your dumb question with two words.
Bob Arum
@50 centavos
Amen, it´s pathetic when you have that situation going on with the Mayweathers and you actually have people backing it as sanity.
this article is about right what will happen.i think the writer is spot on.i cant wait for the exuses coming out of pacs mouth when he gets a royal beatdown.the first one will be i never trained properly because of political responsibilitys.
Laugh, so then why’s he fighting Margarito?
Margarito got KTFO by Mosley.
Why not fight Shane?
Shane’s more than willing to take the lesser of the purse split.
And it’s not like Phagiao hasn’t fought Mayweather’s leftovers either, right? (DLH, Hatton, etc.)
So what’s the problem?
If anything, fighting Mosley eliminates the criticism that Manok ducked him repeatedly (which he did)?
Oh that’s right, Manok is still terrified of fighting a Hall of Famer.
It’s why he’s continually ducked Mayweather and Mosley.
@ motown hitman.
Naw bro. Baldomir was NEVER the #1 ranked welterweight.
Margarito was the #1 ranked welterweight when FLoyd fought Baldomir. Baldomir was just the lineal champ when he upset Zab Judah.
@ Tic Tic..
Naw Manny was chasing the better African American fighter, but he’s avoiding Manny right now.
Moo…gotta get your facts straight..arum admitted cotto wasnt ready for floyd, Martinez JUST got to the top, floyd fought the #1WW in baldomir instead of cheato.
Floyd called out mosley twice and mosley declined..and the split decision with DLH was a joke..floyd landed 100 more punches. pac has no size disadvantage cause of catchweights.
@Phoocquaio…MOSELY…MOSELY…MOSELY…MOSELY…MOSELY…MOSELY…MOSELY…MOSELY…MOSELY…MOSELY…MOSELY…MOSELY
AND HE IS STILL AVOIDNG HIM TODAY!!!
@ Marius.
The only time Manny avoided an African American fighter was Nate Campbell at lightweight. The thing is, Manny only had one fight at lightweight (against David Diaz who was the fifth ranked lightweight at the time) then he moved up in weight for more money and better comp.
Other than that, there wasn’t a ranked African American fighter in any of the divisions Manny fought in at the time he was there. None.
So maybe if the African American fighters were better (or perhaps naturally smaller) then maybe he would have fought them.
@Marius, what are you talking about Manny’s never fought an African American fighter? what about Joshua Clottey and Lehlohonolo Ledwaba who he knocked out?
If Floyd Mayweather said something clever to insult Pacquiao in the media, his dumb fans would probably treat that as if Mayweather beat Pac in a fight.
They are truly pathetic
floyd is not afraid of the pacman. he’s afraid to lose & all he sees is a loss if he faces the pacman. the pacman will beat him up!
Why Pacquiao has never fought an African American all his career?His team knows well that Af.Americans fighters are almost all super technicians,hard to beat.Look at the super six tournament,how greats are Afr.Amer fighters.In the beginning,no one gave the chance to Direll or Ward,but these guys now are able to reache the final of the tournament.
Pacquiao will be beaten,if he fights an Afr.Amer,and will be ko.
Now I ask Pac’s fans to know,what will do Pac if all his offense doesnt work against Money May?How can he make his defencee?Surely without defence he’ll become like a dog in the street without his boss,and Money’ll ko him.
@Motown
The difference between Manny’s ascension through the weights and JMM’s is the way they carry the weight.
Manny carries the bigger weight much better than JMM, thus making him more functional at those weights
Why don’t you stop talking about what ifs Chris Williams and write about facts. Like how Manny has big ones for fighting Marg who is a bigger, stronger, taller, longer reach opponent in his own BACKYARD!! I would love to see Floyd do that instead of him fighting JMM and making him move wayyyyyyyy up in weight lol but I’m not holding my breath.
Hey Mr. Chris Williams, your “IF” and “BUT” scenarios are purely speculations.
I think you better look on to these fighter’s previous matches and see who punches the real thing. Who has the power to knockdown opponents and who is just running afraid of fighting powerful fighters.
Haha poor mr williams how much duz pacman bother u dude your blogs really cheer me up man hahaha keep up the nonsense its ace hehe
@F.L.A
When Roach comes out and states Manny will beat Floyd will you do a 180 and call him a liar? The haters tend to pick sound bites here and sound bites there to back up their emotionally charged arguments, they call Freddie a liar when he says his fighter will knock out his opponent and then call him honest when he makes a statement that Manny may not be ready. Which is it?
Moo…was Manny’s ascension up in weight any different than JMM when he stepped in with Floyd? No..in fact JMM fought 2 fights at 135 before moving up to 147 while Pac only had 1 fight at 135 before moving up to 147. The difference is Pac moved up to fight DLH and JMM went on to fight Floyd..HUGE difference in competition.
Now let me ask this..why did Pac jump 140 and go to 147 to fight DLH? Because DLH was a BIG name though not competitive at 147 anymore. Pac’s career has been constructed to maximize marketability however that does not mean he is the best guy..his promoters have just marketed the hell out of a marketable person and story line:
Small, humble guy from 3rd world country taken the boxing world by storm..blah blah blah.
@ lil giant
Floyd is not the GOAT and never will be, neither will pac. But Floyd has and does continue to avoid fighters and fighting in general. Fighter include Williams, Cheato, Cotto, Martinez, now it seams hes avoiding avoiding pac. He avoided Mosley until he was old didnt want a rematch with ODLH bc of the split decision. Pac is fighting everyone no matter what the size difference, can that be said of floyd? Floyd seems to be avoiding fighting all together between his current “vacation” and his ubsurd retirement.
@ mowtownhitman
Honestly its because pac has gone up in weight classes so quickly thats what the catch weight is all about. But also realaisticly Pac is a huge draw and therfore can get away with it whare others might not be able to. That doesnt mean that their ant catch weight fights all the time. And yes i would prefer if a fighter of manny’s calibur never used them.
Tell your boy floyd sign the contract. you black people talk too much.Talk is cheap. Floyd is a coward period.
slight
Regardless of what you want to call old. I call Bernard Hopkins old. I calld Gerorge Foreman old right before his famous KO. I’ve called Holyfield old for about 10 years.
The fact was Mosley was the #1 WW at the time. If Floyd would have fought anyone other than the #1 he would have been bashed. Funny thing is after he beat the #1 he still gets bashed. This is the price you pay for being the “bad guy”.
Still doesn’t cancel out the facts regardless if you love him or hate him.
Does any of it really matter unless they fight? There are a million and 1 possible outcomes to this fight, could be great, could be predictable, could be surprising, could be career altering. Scared, not scared, it really doesn´t matter. Personally I´ll watch any fight Manny or Floyd or anyone else is involved in, I watch boxing every weekend because I love the sport but these 2 fools have lost a lot of respect from all fans period because of this charade we have been forced to watch for the past year. If they don´t fight eachother it hurts both of their legacies period.
hahaha…lol..ty lil g..you beat me to it!!
moo
why dont you tell us who has fought every single opponent that is qualified or has called some one out?? there aint one thats why you should shut your pie hole if you dont know what you are talking about..if you fight twice a year , some one is going to be passed up..these guys are fighting to get paid.. so its a buisness decision first and foremost..
MOO
PBF has fought more current champions and past champions than any other fighter. Let me say this again he has beaten more current champions and past champions then any other fighter who is champion. So for you to say he has duck a number of fighters is crazy. He fought the best 130 pound fighters when he was in the 130′s He did the same at 135 140 and 147. Thats all you can ask for. When you are at the top everyone wants to fight you. YOu can’t fight every. At 130 who should he have fought that he didn’t what about 135, 140 and 147. Cuz he didn’t fight Cotto and Margarito at one weight class doesn’t mean he is ducking fighters. Both of them just happen to be manage by BOB ARUM.
I seriously doubt Floyd is afriad of Pac. Chances are Floyd has the same perception of Pac that a lot of fans do. Let’s look at how the career of Pac has been carefully constructed since moving past 135.
Pac fights DLH at 147 a weight DLH hadn’t fought at since 2001. Freddie Roach admitted before the fight that DLH would have a hard time cutting weight. It’s much easier to go up in weight as you get older than it does coming down in weight.
Pac then moves back down to 140 to fight Hatton
He then moves back up to 147 (145) to fight for Cotto’s belt. Why the catch weight considering he had already previously fought at 147 without a catchweight against DLH???
Then he goes on to fight Clottey at 147 (no catchweight). Why no catchweight for this fight?
Now he’s supposed to fight Margarito for the Light MW belt at another catchweight. Why, because it gives him the greater advantage as it did when he fought Cotto.
So in conclusion..he goes up to 147, comes back down, goes back up with a catchweight, next fight not a catchweight then his next fight is.
I’d just like an honest response.
yes indeed, fighters make the belts..myself i dont look at some ones record at all or the so called belts they have, i look at who they fight or have already fought..I know holyfield is way past his prime by like 10 years but when he was king of the ring he fought ANY ONE no matter what..that takes guts..how many people at his level would fight larry donald or chris byrd, or lewis? not many would do that today..its fight the fighter that is easy for my style ..
@ lil goat
Saying your the GOAT because you are undeafeated, while having avoided a deasent # of people, thats what we call a paper champion
why does Pac fan think Money is scared. Remember Shane thought the same thing. THe fact of the matter is Flody is multi dimensional with pure boxing savvey. I hope manny does not go into a fight with floyd thinking that floyds scared he will be in for big surprise. Real fights understand floyd has beaten pressure fighters before go ask Chavez ,Castillio and Ricky! among others. I see Floyd backing Manny up with a fast stiff jab, Manny cant fight backing up. Also,
Manny cant fight in the inside, what if Money takes fight inside? Manny style of jumping in and out wont work while he’s backing up and catching stiff jabs and lighting fast lead rights. not to mention Moneys counter punching ability and defense!
Chris, If you are very confident about PBF beating PAC into a bloody mess why not TALK TO PBF AND PERSUADE HIM TO FIGHT PAC.
Have you seen Miguel Cotto’s face after the fight with PAC?
Fighters lagitamize belts. Belts do not lagitamize fighters, not any more since their are like 4 belts for each weight class. Agreed Lacemup
SLIGHT:
There are four belts per divisions. So there can be four different fighters with a belt. Those fighters are then rated. Manny has chosen to fight not the number 1 ranked fighter with a belt. At times he fought the number 4 ranked fighter with a belt. Look at the upcoming fight with Margartio. He is fighting the number four ranked fighter. This is what is called a paper champion
slight
Former promoter of Floyd Mayweather, Mr Bob Arum could probably answer that better since he knows how to make or break a fight with him. Ever thought of why Pac, Cotto and Margarito never fought Mayweather (who Arum used to say was the greatest of all time)?
Top Ranks the problem. We all know Floyd is not easy to deal with. Since when did Pac or better yet when did Top Rank become DIVAS too?
Latest news from Arum is talk of Pac fighting Cotto (again) next year. That should explain it all
any takers?
Mayweather has a top notch counter defense, an “underrated” iron chin and technically precise speed that will kill. Who has Pac fought of recent that has this kind of ability?
Back in the day titles / belts (pick 1) meant something..when ali or sugar ray leanord fought for the championship it was a big deal like the super bowl or nba championship game.. fast forward 20 nor 30 years every single fight is for a belt, why? it takes away from the true meaning..when a promoter like arum can manipulte ratings and have his fighters fight for the championship when they never fought at that weight is a joke!! period..Let alone do it at catchweights…when any one says im champion of 5 or 10 divisions and only fought like 40 times i pretty much disregard it….and so should you!!
@ mackey
Agreed about this being the best fight for Floyd without taking on Paul Williams or Sergio Martinez at 154 of 160. But Pac does have defense, in the form of head movement and foot speed, just look at the first knock down in the hatton fight whare he slips a punch and hits hatton at the same time, also Oscar didnt conected more on mayweather than he did on pac. Pac is not a defensive genious like Floyd. But Floyd isnt the offensive master that pac is. That is why it is such a good match up. Best defensive fighter vs best offensive fighter.
coward
Floyd will take the risk. It might not be when you or I want him to take it though.
Do people not see the broken record they clearly put back on the same old record player time and time again?
Lets not forget how scared Pac and Floyd where of Shane Mosley.
Anyone have an answer to,
Mayweather has a top notch counter defense, an iron chin and technically precise speed that will kill. Who has Pac fought of recent that has this kind of ability?
Great article! all of you pac fans answer me this when does he block? dont worry i will wait…… easy fight easy money for floyd i dont blame him for milking this fight to get the most he can because after this fight he wont be able to generate this much money again for such an easy mismatch
Chris Williams were you drinking cool Aid with your bro. Dave Lahr before your write this article? As usual your article, like Dave Lah’s, is written and intended to upgrade or improve the image of your boss Floyde Mae and condecend on Pacman. Your articles and Lahr’s write-ups are the same smokescreen to express your dislike or hathred of Manny Pacquiao and upheld little boy floyd. You maybe right that Floyde will win … that is if he applies his same old boring style of fighting, i.e., jab, jab, jab, and pitty pat lightly, runs around, hug, thrown an occasional right, then, do the same processs over and over again throughout the fight – upon which Floyde is very known for. A cherry-picking and boring fighter. Good try Chris! Tell bro. Lahr to come up with similar biased and unobjective write-up like yours. Okay?
TIC TIC
good post on the percentages pac must pay. he needs to fight every month or buy his way out of ARUMS STABLE
greenburg confirmed that little floyd is absolutely in fear of pacman this year.
Anyone who thinks nate campel stands any chance against pac is just plain crazy.
The only ring mayweather will be in, in the near future will b chris williams
@ boxeo
Soo true
Get a life Chris! Floyd will never have the guts to fight Manny so all speculations of “ifs” are meaningless.
WE CAN ALL GIVE MAYWEATHER HIS FIRST DEFEAT….. DON’T BUY HIS NEXT PPV…. STREAM IT, STEAL IT OR JUST IGNORE IT (SOUNDS LIKE A MAYWEATHER QUOTE) ……. LET’S SERVE HIM SOME HUMBLE PIE AND GIVE HIM NOTHING FROM OUR WALLETS UNTIL HE FIGHTS THE REAL FIGHTS……. NO EXCUSES
Wilson
before we talk about MANNY 7 titles in 7 weight class lets find out who did he fight to earn these titles and who was perceived to be the best fighter at that time in that weight class. Manny hasn’t fought the best. Do the same to PBF or any other boxer. Once you are the best everyone wants you to fight everyone. This gives ppl the ability to say you are ducking ppl. But on your way to the top you have to fight the top fighters. You can’t fight the close to the top fighters and say you are on top. CHURCH
List of fighter Manny avoid on his way up
THE TOP FIGHTERS
Mark Too Sharp Johnson & Rafeal Marquez- super Flyweight
Tim Austin – bantamweight
Nate Campbell – Lightweight
Tim Bradley – Light welterweight
Shane Mosley & PBF – Welterweight
PAUL Williams – light Middleweight
That last comment fas for roadkill
No their wasnt real chance of Floyd loosing 41 times. Does anyone realy think Gatti, Boldanir, Hatton or JMM realy had any chance of winning. Floyd tood risks only a few times against, corales, castillo, ODLH, and SSM. But even SSM was old and hadnt faught in over a year. Basicly no one else that floyd faught ever had a shot at a win.
The truth is Pacquiao should not continue to be matched against men so far bigger than himself, no matter how great he is—if he fought the great fighters in his size range, his legacy would be forever gold. As it is, the truth is that sooner or later he will bite off more than he can chew…… maybe losing to Mayweather, but at least he goes for the challenge, Mayweather avoids it…
I love Chris Williams !!!! He¨s my soul mate !!!!
@Tic tic….Pacquiao won 7 titles in 7 weight divisions. He’s the only boxer who won that title. Do you think all his punches are just luck? Ali, Robinson, Tyson, Etc became one of the greatest boxers of all time based on luck? You’re such a moron. You make me laugh so bad. You talked like a 10 year little girl.
Mayweather, the truth is his legacy may fail to match even the aforementioned Roy Jones, since Floyd will be perceived by history to have fought too safely and with too much disregard for the fans. This latest stubborness in properly addressing the challenge of Pacquiao will soon prove to be the single biggest blunder of his career, so much so that the inevitable damage control will force him into actions he may not have had to take previously. Not accepting this historic fight when he is the larger, stronger, taller and probably faster man will erase much of his claims to being the best even of his time, forget of all time. Floyd isn’t afraid; forget that—he is too good a fighter to truly be a coward. But not stepping up when the opportunity is right in front of you will never be forgiven by the boxing world and fans worldwide
chris williams … How could the fight happen if Mayweather is afraid to fight Pacquiao? Everything you posted is pointless. You’re just so stupid like Mayweather Sr.
@F.L.A-We-Don’t-Play
if thats your fact, no one can take that away from you..just remember this, even floyd himself is uncertain fighting pacman..
@F.L.A-We-Don’t-Play
thats great..but the question is, if floyd has the will to take the risk for fighting the hittable pacman? if floyd thinks he’s the greatest of all time, why he didnt fight the midget pacman?
Top notch counter defense, an iron chine and technically precise speed that will kill. Who has Pac fought of recent that this this kind of ability?
Mayweather’s connect rate is higher than most phone providers. Guess what? Pac cant out of the way of anything. He’s easily hit.
But yes being “afraid” (which is just ridiculous to think) wont change the technical beat down that Pac will receive from a superior boxer.
Were only left with what the excuses will be?
Is it that Mayweather only fights smaller fighters?
OST caused Pac to lose?
He was too small?
He was too old?
The fight wasn’t fair?
It was rigged?
The list could go on…. Either way its up to Bob Arum since he’s now talking about Pac fighting Cotto (again) after Pac destroys a bum that Mararito is. Pac takes the cheater out before 9.
@roadkill- Pacquiao need rehab
manny has no chance at pwill coz of height advantage and you know that..but berto and bradley, they should slowly go into top just like manny did and floyd.if you, would you give them a chance instantly? maybe not, right?
I guess it would matter more on there visits to court and taxes LOL
@Tic Tic…
We’re talking about a sport called boxing… have you heard of that? I think you’re in the wrong forum, mate… easy mistake to make…
…try netball.com or cricket.org
@coward
i understand what u sayin dog, but i can say the same about pac. isnt he avoiding pwill, bradly ………
@roadkill- Pacquiao need rehab
shane just come gassed out..maybe he’s getting old.yea i know floyd was a very good boxer specially when he’s in lightweight, he beat those top guys there..but were talking about this days, isint it floyd avoiding now great boxers like pwill, margarito, cotto and pacman? atleats he fought shane but its too late, shane was already too old for that fight..
@moo
there was a real chance of him loosing 41 times you know that man.
@MOO
this @tic Tic cant understand what we are talking here..his knowlegde is far from boxing, maybe in cricket…
I dont think floyd is scared of anything or anyone. People like floyd dont get scared but he knows that their is a real chance of him loosing if he takes the fight. Thats the only reason the fight isnt happening, bc he is protecting the ZERO to make some more $ first.
So Mayweather’s going to be battering Pacquiao with punches and avoiding his shots in return, eh? I think you got the two mixed up.
@ tic tic
Im not going to argue with someone with as flawd logic as yours. Especialy since ring mag the best source for boxing ranks Pac as #1 p4p and mayweather as #2. But has it ever crossed your mind that maywather has never faught a volume puncher. He avoided Williams and Margarito bc of their volume punching style. Mabey that why he is also avoiding Pacman. Pacman is at least as good a fighter as mayweather just in a totaly different style, which happens to be much more fan freindly. Any one who says other is biased. Just because Joe Frasier had an ugly style doesnt mean that he was not the equivalent of Ali. Styles make fights and pacs style offers a unique and difficult challenge for anyone including mayweather. If mayweather thought he could beat pac easily the fight would have been made twice already.
@Danny
yea u right i never laced up. yup
thank you
ha!ha!ha! you know chris i never thought you could be so naive. ha!ha! frankly you sound more like a masseur than a boxing analyst, whatever. you think being scared in boxing is the same as that in holloween!ha!ha!!! in boxing when you’re scared, it’s not of a ghost who can’t touch you. y’know you could be blown off your socks man! that what it’s all about! if i am wrong and you are right, things could have ended the other way with the mayweather-pacquiao fight. definitely.
@roadkill- Pacquiao need rehab
who whooped shane’s ass? forrest..thats the true shane and prime shane..i’ll ask you, why shane didnt throw a punch after he hurt floyd? why after 2nd round shane gassed out?
@MOO
“5 Years Amatuer Boxing Experiance”
I respect that, and you should know better calling a man like floyd scared.
@roadkill- Pacquiao need rehab:
LOL! You crack me up… yes, I’ve boxed since I was a teenager… as an amateur turning up to an average show, the only thing you know about your opponent is they will weigh roughly your weight… that’s it. Sometimes you’d fight a future pro or whatever… there’s nothing brave about being a boxer if you cherry pick opponents… how’s it brave knowing you will win? Running from a smaller guy in any area of life is cowardice…
By your comments, I see you’ve never ‘laced up’…
@ Tic Tic
hey dumb, your like a child..why would we ask mosley you idiot!!go to sleep dumb..
Lemme ask all you flyd fans one question.
Dont fighters fight?
And shouldnt fighters who fight more often,(therefore take more risks) be rewarded and acnoledged.
This will be pacs 7th fight since Floyd faught Hatton.
That makes it 7 to 2 for pacman.
Why doesnt mayweather want to fight? Not just pac but any one. Is he not a fighter?
Pac is taking all commers but mayweather needs to have everything his way if he is expected to get in the ring.
@coward
dude, you guys said that before he faught shane. pac refused to fight shane. but who was it that whooped shane?
thank you
@Coward and MOO, ask Mosely if Floyd hits hard. Hell, Stevie Wonder could hit Pacquiao!
We are talking about Manny Pacquiao who NEVER learned how to fight, who uses a WILD style of throwing a volume of punches to defeat his opponent.
Vs. A Pedigreed fighter who has perfected defense, timing, distance, speed, balance, who is one of the “Elite” Boxers and Counterpunchers of all time.
Too much skill here. Manny hopes he can throw a volume punches and maybe land a shot that will KO Mayweather? Like playing the lottery. A 1 Billion to 1 shot of that.
Save your money midgets…
@roadkill- Pacquiao need rehab
it is you floyd fans who’s acting like a child.cant you accept that floyd is scared? cant you see that or youre just a bunch of cr@p…
@ Road kill
5 Years Amatuer Boxing Experiance
Um what Floyd is not a god. he is a verry good boxer. But Pacman is the one without fear in this debate. Do you see mayweather chalenging guys two weight classes over(154 or 160) whare everybody knows he would be best(147, 140). NO. PAC is dooing that and has been dooing it for quite some time. So if you wana talk about being afraid the only person to talk about is Mayweather.
“Does it matter if you applaude a guy no matter what sh*t he does ?”
No, it doesn’t. But don’t claim to be a boxing genius for that.
pacquiao fans you guys sound like children. do you all realize that? using catch phrases like “sissy” “scarred” F@g…. these are pro fighters. both these men got heart. how many of you every been in the square? how many of you every lace up? how many every been in a boxing, kickboxing, muay thai, point fighting, or even street fight?
thank you
@Tic Tic… If you call getting floored four times in 2 fights and being humiliated winning a fight, then yeah sure JMM beat Pacman real bad…!
MOO for @Tic Tic, floyd is a god, how can pacman defeat that LOL!!he says pacman is afraid of floyd..maybe this guy just woke up from a year of sleeping…
Even if it was easy for Floyd to hit pac. Floyd doesnt have the power to hurt him. Therefore Pac will walk through Mayweathers sissy puches to deliver his own KO punches.
The only reason the fight isnt made yeat is because floyd wants to make some more money before he risks the ZERO against Pacman.
BELIEVE IT
@ Tic Tic
you should go to sleep dumb..youre a retard, go talk to your grandpa maybe you can fool him LOL!
@Anonomous, because everyone knows Minny Craquiao can be beat! JMM did it! Twice, he just didn’t get the nod.
Who get’s big paydays fighting Pac? Hell Pac doesn’t even get a big payday!!!
Do you call $13 Mil a big payday? Son, $40 Mil is a big payday!!!
Mayweather is the BIG MONEY DRAW!!!
1) Mosely
2) Berto
3) Bradley
4) Martinez
5) Williams
All of the above KNOW they can beat the midget. The midget knows it as well which is why he will avoid all of them like the plague!!!
Arum will keep the mealtrain going with simple fighters until Floyd Mayweather Jr. ends the mealtrain in May 2010!!
Midgets…you need another hobby or interest. Minny Craquiao is a JOKE and a HYPE Of The Decade! HOTD
I dont think Mayweather has the heart to beat someone to a pulp, if he did then i would consider him one of the Greatest. He couldnt even knock out Juan Manuel Marquez, who moved up two weight classes to fight him.
floyd mayweather is not interested in fighting pacquioa right now coz he’s on a vacation with chris williams playing with each others d1ck ………..
hahahahahaha Tic Tic oh my Tic Tic….
@Tic Tic…
I bet if Floyd Mayweather broke into your house, beat up your family, stole your TV, killed your dog and drank your beer all whilst you stood there watching, you’d phone the police and report Manny Pacquiao…
…you’re delusional, mate…
@Tic Tic
hahahaha! see? your like a 10 yr old kid moron…talk to your neighbors kid maybe they will believe you..
@Tic Tic…
You’re pathetic, mate… if Mayweather was convicted for murder you’d be defending him… pathetic…
@Tic Tic.. You post like a 10 year old kid moron. Go to school and learn to be a mature person. Your Floydee is running away from Pacquiao. PERIOD. The whole world knew about it.
PACTARDS 41-0 Get it?
Manny Pacquiao has NEVER, NEVER, EVER faced an African American fighter in 56 fights! Why? That means another defeat if he fights one of the best. Floyd Mayweather is on vacation. Can he take one midgets?
I know you don’t understand that in the Philipines. 38 cents an hour is a lot in the Philipines I know, but vacations are a common thing in the US.
Minny Craquiao has to fight because when you make $13 Mil this is what happens:
1) US took 35% off the top
2) Arum took 27% off the top
3) Roach took 10% off the top
4) Ariza took 3% off the top
5) GBP took 3% off the top
6) The 100 Crew Entourage took God only knows how much
Which means: Pacquiao must fight again asap!!!
Does Floyd encounter like Manny Pacquiao as a boxer. For most of the fight of Floyd life, he choose his opponent that has an age gap an and not like a hitter like Manny. He play not like a boxer but for Money… I think will see who really the great boxer if both of men will fight in ring…
@ Tic Tic
same old story again..you dont have anymore excuses for floyd? were not fooled, youre the one who got fooled! LOL!
Even Chris Williams now believe that Mayweather is frightened of Pacquiao. Fear is like a poison that will eat you alive. As in all the other sports, confidence, the opposite of fear, will go a long way. Whether you are better or not against the other player, fear will put you behind the eight ball. If Mayweather fears Pacquiao, he will never fight him because this is contrary to his game plan, which is to get all the advantages on his side in every fight. Mayweather has finally met his Waterloo. His name is Manny Pacquiao.
manny is not afraid of floyd and floyd is not afraid of manny he actually doesnt think this would be a tough fight at all. its about ego and brovado. and its about arum not wanting to put his cash cow in there since manny is fighting for the next few years. fight will never happen but has nothing to do with fear.
HAHAHA.. THIS FU CK ING WRITER IS NOT GIVING UP!!!!!
@Nissan, he’s knocking the same type fighters out. He is kept away from boxers and counterpunchers…for good reason. He will go from avoiding boxers and counterpunchers, to facing the VERY BEST BOXER on the planet!!! They have avoided JMM for Gods sake!
You Pacnuts will get a rude awakening. Arum and Roach have fooled all of you for a very long time. If you can’t see that this has been a very long “MEALTRAIN” for Arum and Roach, you will soon get that very difficult wake up call!
BTW writer you sound like a wanna be Dave Lahr.
Floyd’s fear will take over once he steps in the ring with Manny, he’s not gonna go on cruise control he’ll be frozen stiff in terror. Fear is debilitating, it only gets worse when your forced to face it by pressure, only if you dig deep and truly want to face it are you truly able to conquer it. I think Mayweather is taking time off to build up the courage to face his fear which is Manny.
The one dimensional no skill boxer named Pacman ,made the self proclaimed GREATEST OF ALL TIME Floyd Mayweather Jr. leave the sport of boxing and all his fans hugging air without even having to throw a punch. Floyd will always have to live with being in Manny’s shadow now.
@onins
i agree…when they get old, having party and some beers, someone talks about boxing and floyd will change the topic coz deep dowm, pacman still hunts him…it can’t change the history..
Funny article…first of all he has to want to fight manny. He has to get in a ring to be ABLE to whip hip..SO as far as i know..mayweather has lost…
Pac fans will not be sad if he loses to floyd because manny has already proven who he really is.We did not expect pac will get bigtime in boxing, he exceeded our expectation. Pac’s boxing career end is near, this margarito fight might be his last coz pac is now a congressman. at the end of the day manny can sleep well from his boxing career, sad for floyd, not facing manny will be his nightmare and will hunt him forever. floyd’s greatness will be incomplete.
Who r u in carhoooooots with chris
It’s not that Mayweater is afraid of fighting Pacquiao. The question should read ” Is Mayweather ready for a challenge? ” Mayweather is a smart boxer and is aware that Pacquiao is dangerous. But believe me, Mayweater is a huge threat for the Pac man .
please no more floyd vs pacman for now.
FMJ is on vacation.
all reasons are just speculations for now.
this is boring topic.
write something about pac vs. marg because this is what’s happening now.
and please write objectively.
Boxing ain’t in Floyd’s mind at the moment. ^_^
Hiyah, Chris Williams, I don’t agree with you mate. U r wrong big time.
Fear is debilitating, crippling and at times paralyzing. How’d u expect Floyd to beat the Pac to a pulp when floyd is cowering in fear in one corner of the ring. He’d be bludgeoned from pillar to post, and back. and on and on.
I doubt ur a psychologist, but maybe u r one, one with a major flaw. I mean, u couldn’t evev get floyd to share a ring with pacquiao, how much more for him to beat the little guy.
come on, i expect some sense from u chris. write something truthful next time. or if u r unable, at least something close to that.
Pull it out of is ass chris your making yourself look a fool.:-P
we really dont know if floyd really can beat manny not unless they fight in the ring!!! but first thing first jr. he must sign the contract that he is willing to fight pac..until then you can keep on dreaming chris williams.
Now you writers are getting desperate to write anything! Pacaiuo is a over rayed b-level fighter at best..All he is, is a volume puncher, with out much real boxing ability nothing more to talk about. He brings in major cash because of his exciting to watch style. If they keep on matching him with these same washed up has beens and at catch weights every one involved will make even more money.
@HAHA
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !!!!!!
that goes for you too, Chris.
@haha
what year was that when pacman fought singsurat? you dont know what youer talking dude..you better keep silent than talking any that out of the world..
@haha
how old is mosley when he fought mayweather? tell me, did mosley still punching after 2nd round?
I didn’t realise that out of all the writers here Chris, you’d give in and hint out that ‘Mayweather is afraid of Manny’. I myself, despite being a Pacquiao-fan, never even thought of that.
Also, that ‘amateurish style’ that you say Manny has took down the great Ricky Hatton in less than two rounds, battered De La Hoya and a lot of other fighters in that square ring.
Mr. Williams, the fight isn’t happening this year, get over it and stop sucking Mr. Floyd’s sausage.
@MrRomero
“Pac is nobody…nobody to affraid of….. yet all he’s giving his fans is a fight with Margarito who was banned and after that a rematch with Cotto. And to add to insult….It’s at a catchweight at that.”
If Pacman is nobody then why shouldn’t he be allowed to have a catchweight? You want him no catchweight then he must be special, right? Like P4P king….
just come to think wut HAHA’s meant by P4P (pu..y 4 pu..y)…that make sense….hey HAHA..told ya…lil’ Floyd ain’t a P4P (pu..y 4 pu..y).
@haha
Your excuses are late & lame … suuuck it up!
chris williams = mayweather’s girlfriend
hey HAHA! you’re getting out of the race. we’re not talkin’ anything about P4P here, are we? I thought we’re tryin’ to persuade everyone here into thinkin’ that lil’ Floyd ain’t a pu..y. he’s also no coward. huh! I think I would need “some rest” and “not think of boxing right now”.
Its time of the day to lift the spirits of all Floyd Huggers and sing their Floyd anthem:
Oh Where?? Oh Where??
Has my little Floyd gone?
Oh Where?? Oh Where can he be??
Coz his scared of PAC and don’t want to get knocked.
Oh Where?? Oh Where can He BE??
Even when Phagiao came in heavy and had the weight advantage against Singsurat, he STILL GOT KNOCKED THE F_CK OUT IN LESS THAN 3 ROUNDS.
That’s P4P?
Being heavier than your opponent, losing your belt on the scales before even throwing a punch, then getting lit up like a christmas tree and then getting put to sleep is P4P?
LOL.
All what is written here are just personal feelings and out of control emotions, main subject on WHEN is Floyd going to agree to fight Pacman seems to be fading out slowly, what appears are angers and trashing which is endless, these opinios are just running on circles, there is no winner.
I think scared is a strong word. Mayweather is certainly weary of Pacquiao as he represents a serious threat to his legacy and position in the boxing world. I think Mayweather will beat Pacquaio but i think Mayweather has made a royal fool of himself during this entire charade.
Pacquaio has at least been open and straight as has Arum but the Mayweather camp produces utter nonsense everytime they speak. Its embarrassing. And it confuses me because I believe Mayweather would win eventually though it would be his toughest fight to date.
This writer lives in Fantasy land, Mayweather is a coward, that simple
hey chris you better shut up your ass and open your eyes you know nothing.
hey ! floyd the coward mayweather come out! and fight me dont hide your ass in your face like your father did he’s always wearing ass mask when he goes public
Davey says:
July 29, 2010 at 3:02 am
Needless to say Kevin Iole of YahooSports is a Mayweather fan turned Pacquiao believer!
He is the same guy who ranked Mayweather number 1 in Yahoo’s pound 4 pound list.
But he gets fed up of Mayweathers BS!
yeah… I agree with HAHA. not sure why he’s called HAHA tho’. anyway, he’s right. mah lil’ Floyd ain’t a coward. that thing on TV “not thinkin’ of boxing right now” is a fake. kevy should know better. mah lil’ Floyd ain’t smell like a pu..y…
Needless to say Kevin Iole of YahooSports is a Mayweather fan turned Pacquiao believer!
He is the same guy who ranked Mayweather number in Yahoo’s pound 4 pound list.
But he gets fed up of Mayweathers BS!
FMJ never fought on a catchweight.. he simply enter the ring several pounds heavier…
though he paid the penalty!! Poor JMM he just got mayweathered..
his hatred on manny pacquiao makes him to sleep only 1 hour just to write another article about destroying pacman..keep writing so that people will always remember how floyd ducked pacman..
Mr Chris Williams if you feel you are tougher than ur idol Floyd, instead of writing something that will not change the fact that your idol is really afraid of Pacquiao why don’t you fight Pac yourself, because your idol Floyd even you say the very worst thing against Pacman there is deifintely NO IMPACT until he agrees to fight. You’re trying to institute and try very hard to validate Floyd and destroy Pacquiao which contain too much padded statement that precisely is hard for anybody to believe. It clearly manifest your hatred to Manny and many are wondering why you had been allowed to write such unbalanced view. Anybody given privilege to write an article can say anything they like, but real facts should be substantiated, what you are writing are your personal feeling and hatred and you released the outburst in your article. An indication of an unprofessional writer that is using media to deliver his personal vendetta, this is bad, I hope your EDITOR has enough brain to understand your true motives and be a true professional to know what EDITING is all about.
hey kevy…I’m sure you’re not insinuating that mah lil’ Floyd may lost or have already lost “his womens” trust cuz’ he smells like a pu..y. I’ll say it again, it ain’t lil’ Floyd. Mah lil’ Floyd ain’t a pu..y. That “ain’t thinking of boxing right now” thing on TV is a fake.
im wondering why floyd didnt even protected himself for the whole world calling him a coward..maybe he’ll speak up soon but isnt it too late? why not now that the whole world is confused why he’s not talking..maybe they are making a good plan to turn this whole thing to pacman..
your line of thinking is just like that of David Lahr.I strongly suspect that you and Lahr is the same person.tsk,tsk,tsk no matter how protect your boy it boils down to the same thing: COWARD FLOYD!HE,HE,HE.Do I have to add more Miss William?
@kevy kev
And wouldn’t that be a spectacle of mayweather ends up fighting those people.. especially p. will?
@Dubb c
i agree with you..but arum did everything to put up this fight and i think GBP too..for me, team mayweather who is hard to deal with specially the risk is high on thier fighter..
mayweather is under al haymon gbp promotes his fights, if mayweather would be fighting stable fighters like pacquiao he’ll be fighting berto, williams and such so that’s not the truth.
GOOD NIGHT
AN HONEST PAC FAN
pacquiao fought delahoya obviouslt their was controversy even freddie roach said delahoya killed HIMSELF to make weight delahoya had not fought welterweight in years.
hatton took alot of punishment in the kostya tzyu fight and fighters dont recover from those type of fights, example taylor vs chavez.. mugabi vs hagler..jones vs tarver same with cotto to much damage from margarito etc
@boxtop123
i think its not my friend..its all about floyd..its up to you what you say.its you who is talking to yourself..
When the fight happens then we’ll know. Only then. But you have to love the way they have built it up. We’re all on here ever day talking about it. Everyone picking a side. For me personally I love both fighters they both bring something to the table and if these promoters would do their real jobs and put together the fights that we really want to see the world of boxing would be a whole lot better but we know that wont happen. At the end of the day fighters put their life’s on the line so that they can take care of their families. They wont to give the fans what they wont but its still a business. Are any of us willing to go to work and do our jobs for less pay just to make someone else happy? Thing about it people.
And for arguments sake though…
I’m actually happy that Bob puts his stars together.. atleast high profile boxer fighting another…
Ask yourself why Mayweather still hasn’t fought P. Will when he’s been at welter since forever….
he never could get a deal done with bob arum cotto none of the fighters the only fighter ive just remembered is henry brusless cotto’s sparring partner that fights like cotto mayweather demolished the guy beating him and holding a convo. with jim lampley during the fight, cotto was his big money man but got cotto a good beating no 2 good beating from pac, and cheato
COWARD
YES IT IS MORE ARUM AND FLOYD THAN ANYTHING ELSE
@boxtop123
by the way cotto is in toprank..so you mean negotiation between pacman and floyd is not a successful bcoz of arum and floyd bad blood(as you saying)?
@boxtop123
Mate.. Pac has only fought how many top rank fighters?
- certainly not all of the big names his fought are from top rank
Mayweather is guilty of the same thing… he keeps fighting GBP guys.. his only saving grace is that he is not with GBP but he does ask GBP to represent him..
See the similarity?
COWARD
i thought i did margarito is promoted by BOB ARUM you could say the same for cotto mayweather vs any top rank fighter is going to be hard to put together because of the bad blood with arum and mayweather neither BOB ARUM OR FLOYD MAYWEATHER GIVES A FLYING Fu*K ABOUT ANY OF US BUT THESE ARE FACTS AND YOU PAC FANS ACCUSE FLOYD OF DUCKING CERTAIN FIGHTERS AND THEY ALL ARE TOP RANK GUYS PUT 2 AND 2 TOGETHER
BOB ARUM.. DO A SEARCH ON ARUM AND YOU WILL SEE HE HAS BEEN CONVICTED OF BRIBING BOXING OFFICIALS HE IS DIRTY DONT BELIEVE ME CHECK YOURSELF THIS IS A FACT
@coward
He is just trying to reinforce his argument that arum protects his fighters…
*Correction
I meant to say I don’t think Arum is a saint…
boxtop123 says:
July 29, 2010 at 2:12 am
AN HONEST PAC FAN
you could say that but it cuts the other way as well if i said mayweather left arum cause he didnt want to take part in those shady tactics it would work that way just as well. but the only fact is floyd left arum, and manny tried to leave as well dont know why or why he was un successful,
thus the reason for past performances it will tell you alot and i believe that you know arum is a dirty player and has been found guilty of it and guilty is not speculation
right
what are you trying to say on this?LOL!!
@boxtop123
That’s why I keep saying, it’s pointless to throw that sort of stuff into the arguments because people will see it the way they want to see it.
I don’t thin Arum is a saing… put it that way… but no promoter is… not Don King… and sure as hell not GBP… and this isn’t speculation..
I can’t tell you what to do.. so you can keep adding these arguments into the mix… I can tell you (or perhaps remind you) that you won’t be getting what you expect out of people, especially the fans from the other side of the fense…
So I’ll just say good luck to your crusade….
AN HONEST PAC FAN
you could say that but it cuts the other way as well if i said mayweather left arum cause he didnt want to take part in those shady tactics it would work that way just as well. but the only fact is floyd left arum, and manny tried to leave as well dont know why or why he was un successful,
thus the reason for past performances it will tell you alot and i believe that you know arum is a dirty player and has been found guilty of it and guilty is not speculation
right
If Floyd isn’t afraid and is the best as he says he is, why not just prove it? Don’t leave everyone making comments about how great Floyd is or how bad Pac is. Floyd come on and shut everyone up.
@boxtop123
so you expained protected fighters, what do you call about mayweather on that? i’ll ask you again, why mayweather fought baldomir instead of margarito?
dude, your comments is way far from the topic..stop copying other’s comments so you may not lost talking here..
COWARD
you keep saying that i am copying someone else well just scroll down and you will see where you copied a post from jazz the truth then posted .. man i just love shutting yo azz down damn quit looking for a cosigner and do what daddy said take yo azz to bed, now everyone can see with their own eyes how you are copying someone elses sh*t
but thats ok it’s people like you that make it easier for true fans to distinguish who’s real and who’s a COWARD.. GET IT YOU GET IT HA HA HA HA
@boxtop123
Another flaw of the argument that Arum protects his fighters is that Mayweather used to be with Arum…
Is that safe to say then that he was a protected fighter until he left Arum?
And plus now that he’s in control of his own fights… you can also argue that it’s much easier for him to avoid the right fights because it’s all up to him?
If I were you guys.. just focus on what’s on now… nothing you can say or do will remove their records from the record books… that goes both ways.. Pac and Mayweather….
boxtop123 can post a comment maybe after how many minutes coz he’s looking at other comments and other article here so that he can post on his…this guy is a dumb…
COWARD
yes i will explain a protected fighter is one that doesnt control his or her own selection of opponent, and the person in control selects opponents that are the easiest for there fighter to beat.
hatton: kostya tzyu fight killed him (not mayweather)
delahoya: weight drained, past prime, (not mayweather)
cotto: severly beaten by margarito (history fighters dont come back from those type beatings)
clottey: even you cant like this
LOOK AT WHO HE IS FIGHTING NOW BOB ARUMS FIGHTERS
27% OF PACQUIAO PLUS 20 % MARGARITO
27%PACQUIAO PLUS 20 % COTTO
27% PACQUIAO PLUS 20 % CLOTTEY
ONLY TOP RANK PROMOTIONS IF MAYWEATHER FIGHTS HIM ARUM LOSES MONEY HAS TO SPLIT PROMOTION WITH GOLDEN BOY AS WELL AS MAYWEATHER PROMOTION NOW MAYBE YOU CAN SEE WHY ARUM PUTS HIM IN WITH HIS GUYS… AND COTTO VS FLOYD SAME REASON
@An Honest Pacman Fan
thats why this @boxtop123 keeps telling about the past coz he just read those comments from others, he just copying it..it was proven yesterday when we are arguing here..then again a while ago he copy again another comments from lastweek..this dude is a cr@p, he dont know nothing…
@boxtop123
who called pacman to fight dela hoya at 147? i know floyd defeated dela hoya and hatton but pacman defeated them in brutal way..then now answer me, why floyd fought baldomir instead of margarito?
@boxtop123
Dude, I kept telling you, you won’t get anywhere arguing about past opponents and who did what to who…
People will always see things the way it serves them a better purpose… just like you would see everything that Pac has done is suspect except ofcourse for the fights he’s lost or struggled. Then you’ll get people arguing with you about the castillo fight.. and how would that end..
If I were you, I’d stick with the current delimma of Mayweather against Pac… You’d have more success trying to convince some people why Mayweather would win…
Although ultimately, it is hard for Mayweather fans… because he’s on vacation and has not provided you guys with enough ground to stand on….
Sorry but that is the fact at the current state…
@boxtop123
hahahaha now youre telling thats all controversy? you cant answer arent you? hey cr@p. you dont know here stop pretending..you may now leave coz the doctors is looking for you…LOL!
ofcourse he coudnt hit floyd coz he stop punching after 2nd round..i know floyd is a master boxer but why he dont want to fight pacman? i know you will say he didnt ducked pacman but why he keeps telling media that he want to stay away from boxing and boxing is not on his mind right now? didnt he speak up before mosley fight that they know where to find him when pacman wants to fight?
COWARD
go to bed and take your nonsense with you washed up, fighters and weight drained with the exception of marquez 1 and 2 morales 1 all others had controversy
get real… and a sane person could make a case that manny lost all 3…go to bed
@boxtop123
can you explain to me what is protected fighters? i’ll ask you i know youre a floyd fan, then why floyd fought baldomir instead of margarito?
@coward mosley didnt have the weapons to beat may, he couldnt hit floyd, floyd is a defensive genius boy he made mosley miss. when your spirit dies that’s it your done that’s like you keep doing something and always failing then you’ll soon give up because you have no chance is similiar to what i’m saying here, floyd is a master boxer
@boxtop123
pacquiao is a protected fighter? if he’s a protected fighter, why he fought dela hoya, cotto, marquez, barrera, morales and hatton? he rather fight calderon and arce which is more smaller than him…how about floyd? what do you call on him? probably not a protected fighter right?
@boxtop123
I know boxing is corrupt and all that…but we also have to recognize that at some point in their careers, these boxers (or should I say promoters) manage their career so they can have maximum benefit out of it and that does include Mayweather.
When Pac fought Ledwaba, he had 2 weeks notice… 2 weeks… and he jumped in there and beat the cr@p out of him… he was only a 1 2 brawler then… You can accuse Arum, Roach of protecting him… I don’t have a problem with that… but to discredit that actual fighter who just goes in there and does his business.. especially to bigger opponents is not really justice is it?
I choose not to discredit Mayweather because he has had a really great career… and like it or not Pac has too… it just happens that Pac is more graceful in his wins and losses… Besides the fact that he is great just like Mayweather… I’m a fan because of his persona.. otherwise.. if they had exactly the same characters… I’d be a fan of both….
COWARD
you cant show me sh*t pull that di*k out of your mouth and go to bed
COWARD
what do you mean floyd vs mayweather? and you call me an idiot pacquiao is a protected fighter and you are just one of many fools in bob arums long line this is where i call you an idiot now
@boxtop123
oooooh so youre the one posted this lastweek? are you sure? hahahaha!!! you want me to show who’s the original?
@boxtop123
we dont care who floyd fought and one thing is there any fighter in the world or in history with the same opponents? ofcourse they have different opponents..i know floyd is more famous before(this days too) but where talking about floyd vs mayweather here idiot! not there past opponents!!
@kevy kev
so you mean mosley got gassed on that 2nd round? i know floyd outbox him at the start of 3rd but i dont know what happened to mosley..it should be a knockout win for him but he stop punching..
@boxtop123
You will be arguing until the break of dawn mate.. because all this other Pac fans here will argue that those people that Floyd fought wasn’t the top dog… or there was something wrong with the..
That’s why I keep telling you… I’m not going down that path…
As far as Pac vs Mayweather… I said Mayweather will be the toughest fight for Pac… this is because I recognize that Mayweather have got skills…
Prediction wise as well, I said:
- Split decision – Mayweather
- KO or Split decision – Pac
@boxtop123
where did you copy this comments again? hahahaha!
COWARD
answer the fu**in question if you can but you and i both know you dont want to cause the truth is too revealing for a bit*h like you and for your info i am the one who posted this last week floyd is about as scared as you were yesterday
NAYTIME YOU WANT TO TRADE BOXING KNOWLEDGE WITH ME I WILL SHUT YOUR ASS DOWN WITH FACTS YOU JUST DONT KNOW ENOUGH
@coward i know i say some harsh things but seriously man mosley got gased becuz of the activity that was going on in that ring. mosley had to punch and lunge. mosley is in good shape but floyd made him miss alot. cotto already had a weapon that always beaten mosley and it was a great jab “for mosley”. the jab is the reason cotto won but it was close close
If mayweather only has the courage of his fans, we wont be in this situation
an honest pac fan
hey bro.. the fight with floyd and pac has alot behind it steming from arum and floyds past relationship when 2 people hate each other like they do one is not likely to put money in the hands of the other. arum roach and pac all know to beat floyd they need lightning to strike even you yourself have mentioned that you think floyd will win but you favor pac correct me if im wrong, by the way what happened to your list of fighters for pac and be sure to leave out whom ever you choose either way same result…peace
see guys, this comment made by @boxtop123 is coming from a week ago, i cant remember who posted this but this was already posted last week..see how desperate this guy @boxtop123..he kept copying others comments..LOL!
@boxtop123
did pacman says his the best? yesterday i didnt respond on your comments bcoz its non sense, you better talk to a 5 year old kid..you dont know nothing, i repeat you dont know nothing…
ALL PAC FANS
HERE IS A LIST OF FIGHTERS FLOYD HAS FOUGHT NAMED FIGHTERS
hector arroyo, genaro hernandez, angel manfredy, emanuel augustus, diego corrales, carlos hernandez, jesus chavez, jose luis castillo, demarcus corley, henry bruseles, sharmba mitchell, zab judah, carlos baldomir, arturo gatti,
I WILL PURPOSELY LEFT OUT DELAHOYA , HATTON, MARQUEZ, MOSLEY
now pac fans list names of known fighters for your boy
im waiting.. COWAR, JONES, JAZZ, ALL OF YOU
@gerry we really dont know how exact everything will play out for the 2 when they step in that ring but one thing for sure, you wouldnt bet your money against mayweather when they do fight becuz if you do then you’ll lose everything including your women trust
@kevy kev
who make mosley bad on a fight? i like to see whats your answer…did mosley ko’ed cotto? youre saying the man who stood up and moving forward in front of mosley will get ko’ed..floyd did a good job at mosley who gassed out after 2nd round LOL! only blind cant see that..
@boxtop123
And as far as you insinuating that Pac knows he can’t beat Money…
- I don’t know too but so far… trying to get a fight wight a fighter that you know you can’t beat sort of doesn’t make sense does it?
@boxtop123
“YOU KNOW HE CANT BEAT FLOYD AND ARUM KNOWS HE CANT”
- I don’t know about you mate, but I do think Pac has a chance against Floyd. And besides, you really can’t make up that sort of reasoning… Pac’s just not arrogant… he doesn’t hail himself as the new king or anything.. that’s Mayweather’s kind of tune…
COWARD
i asked you a question yesterday and you couldnt answer it then you and your man jones went to bed remember, then finally jones and yourself admitted mayweather gets paid like the best fighter in the game… and JAZZ as far as manny saying he is the best you are right he didnt he is the only one of you guys that knows he is not YOU KNOW HE CANT BEAT FLOYD AND ARUM KNOWS HE CANT THUS THE REASON YOU GUYS ARE OK WITH HIM FIGHTING WEAKER OPPOSITION AND STAGED FIGHTS
shhhh… cris love mayweather
@man up floydie
floyd didnt make them fool, they are already fool when floyd comes in boxing..so, if floyd fooled them they are now an idiot! LOL!
@coward you sound dumb mayweather has the skills to fight toe to toe or moving that’s why he so skilled fans doubt him saying that he will run but he took shane hard shots, you think manny wouldve stood up to those hard shots like floyd did come-on. you cant hate on floyd because he was the first to beat shane bad at that kind of fighting style most fighters gets ko moving foward on mosley, before that fight people including me was worried of the chances, he did it he got the job done in great fashion
Nah kevy… lil Floyd doesn’t smells like a pu..y. it ain’t lil Floyd. it can’t be. the one you saw on TV sayin “i’m actually not thinking of boxing right now” ain’t mah lil’ Floyd. It’s a fake.
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Welcome to “Mayweather in Wonderland,” where they try to convince you that up is down, the grass is blue and the sky is green. Never mind that Mayweather has tarnished, perhaps forever, his legacy as one of the best boxers of all time. Given his disinclination to fight Pacquiao, it’s hard to regard him as the best fighter of his own time.
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kevin iole
go maywaether fans, convince yourselves that he is the best, but you all are just fooling yourselves
@cade
see @boxtop123 dont even know who pacman fought who has power LOL! this @boxtop123 is an idiot..maybe this guy is crazy or another pretender…
@kevy kev
and what dela hoya did that fight? clottey covering his ass the whole fight so that he will not get knockout by pacman..for mayweather, when was the last time he won by a knockout?
“I see Pacquiao reduced to a pile of bloody flesh on the canvas”…
Yeah, right…but just a piece of advise Chris, don’t ever mention Pacmans’ name if ever you had a chance to meet lil Floyd face to face. He may slump and become “a pile of bloody flesh on the canvas” if you know what I mean.
I’m hearing about packs power hell he couldnt knock out a old delehoya and oscar was weight drainned to the fullest, he throws 1200 punches and couldnt even wobble clottey. Manny makes too many mistakes in the ring and to dodge a fight and say someone is scared sounds and smell like a pu**y to me
@JAZZ The Truth
boxtop123 dont know what he’s talking..let him post his comments here coz that guy seems coming out from mental hospital..pretending that he knows whats happening..he dont know nothing here…
you all mayweather fans better take off your blinders, your boy has been exposed, its all over the internet and the blogs, your boy is pulling a mayweather(duck)…….waaakkeeee uppppp……even kevin iole has joined the chorus…. floyd is a fraud………
@boxtop123
here you are again making people know that you know whats going on LOL! this idiot @boxtop123 copying others comments yesterday so that people may think he knows whats happening hahahaha…
@boxtop
PAC had never declared himself the best. BWAA declared him the FIGHTER OF THE DECADE and the THE RING no 1 P4P. But you never heard PAC boasting to the world that he is the best.
HOW ABOUT THE SELF PROCLAIMED CHAMPION IN PINK FLOYD???
Mayweather not afraid but he is scared. And wht does smell like? PU$$Y!!!! U like??
CODE
what big punchers or fighters are you talking about that pac fought? please dont mention any controversial ones
@kevy kev
ofcourse not.just nothing.i just want to see that fight.i love boxing and i love watching great boxers fighting each other..i like pacman, i like mayweather but i blame floyd on this, this is not what he used to do on his opponents before..i am sure he’s not ready to face the risk or maybe he cant move anymore like he fight before..i think it’s too late for him to fight a fighters that has a calliber like pacman
Its hardly uncommon for Floyd to be quiet at a time like this. Its once the fight is made that he starts his shennanigans. Floyd by easy UD
PAC FANS
manny deserves to be a champion not the best by far and not pound for pound more along the lines of hector camacho,
or vinnie pazienza.. different fighting styles of course but not great champions either
Mosley came as close as it gets to knocking out flloyd a couple of times in their fight . If a cautious mosley can do that , what can a rampaging PACMAN do ? The difference being PAC has been in with some boys seriously bigger than him & is not afraid of anyone . I think Floyd is clearly afraid of PACMAN & most importantly losing . Who cares if floyd hits PACMAN , he has showeed against punchers with double the power Floyd has he walks right on through & goes ” pop ” on your chin . Goodnight Floyd .
I dont like Bob Arum, but this shiz in Boxings been played from day 1 since Don King. Not happy bout Margarito. Id rather Pac wait for Money. Boxings dyin cuz of this drama.
KEVY KEV
dont waste your time with coward and jones they are fools i roasted them yesterday and finally they gave in these are not true pac fans and they dont know sh*t about boxing
Hey Chris how about a rebuttal on YahooSports Kevin article that would be great!
Show Kevin what you’re made of!
BIG DOG 55
if floyd is looking for the easiest fight please tell me who he will fight next? and i have told you pac fans even before the fight was announced that he was going to fight margarito i even said it would take place in mexico . not cause im a genius but because this is what arum does at this very moment bob arum is using his bribery skills to try an get margarito a license in the u s a….and after pac wins then pac will fight floyd in may of 2011.. and if arum wants to much then pac will fight cotto… done deal.. who is floyds next easy fight
@coward look take it or leave it mf floyd only fights once a year I’ve been saying this sense day 1 butt wipe
Read Kevin lole’s article on Mayweather, and how his camp was caught lyin bout negotiations and covering for MAyweathers duck. quack!
Kudos to my pal Chris for this good article!
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I guess the IRS is good excuse for FLoyd. But I wonder if Floyd can afford the best lawyer with money can buy, he can surely afford the best accountant who can ease him up with those taxes that needed to be paid if the November fight was to happen.
But then again…… its make believe time…..
It hasn’t been a very good week for you Mayweather fans has it. The media have tore little Floyd’s backside up so bad he won’t be able to sit down for a month. Mayweather only has himself to blame.
@coward so at fight time you’ll put everything on the line for manny if they fight
True warriors dont pick their battles, they fight them!
@ kevy kev
some say? or its just floydiots? a grade school student can answer that a much better…
If you wanna say floyd’s scared did he told yall that or did he told yall that? no, so to say that floyd is scared is like say MANNY DIDNT ACCEPT DRUG TESTING AND BID HIMSELF OUT WHICH SOUNDS MORE REASONABLE
..and another thing, people try to tarnish Pacs records cuz of losses? lets see what other fight champs have lost battles, but remain legends;
Anderson Silva, GSP, Brock Lesnar, Muhamad Ali, Buakaw, Yodsanklai, Shogun Rua, Lyoto Machida..MANNY PACQUIAO.
same old story, different editor. Will it be a good fight? I think it would be – IF IT EVER HAPPENS! I think it will go
FLOYD wins via unanimous decision
or
MANNY wins via KO
Please stop using your overused metaphor like – he’ll beat him like an old habit. Please!
@kevy kev
call pacman the midget monster LOL! and call him also catchweight king but call also floyd ducking queen ayyt?!
@coward some say IRS which could be the case because he only fights once a year. Nov. 13 was just too close for him to fight right after he trainned hard and fought mosley, too close
mrrr williaaamsssssss, how is that gonna happenn, whipping mannys ass, when your boy floyd wouldnt sign the contractttt??? i hope he is trying to grow his balls to fight the PAC…..
7 BELTS BYOTCH. COME GET EM.
HES ONLY GOT 41/0 RECORD. WITHOUT THAT HE FEARS HIS MARKETABILITY AS AN UNDEFEATED FIGHTER WILL LOSE HIM ENDORSEMENTS. mAYWEATHER; NEED A MOMENT? HAVE A TWIX.
All of a sudden floyd mayweather becomes scared of a catchweight midget lol
MAYWEATHER SILENT?!?!?!?! THATS A FIRST BOYS!
@ kevy kev
so whats the reason why floyd didnt fought pacman? yes he’s not afraiod but what is the reason?
floyd scared of manny yeah right something that doesnt make sense. what manny has done in his career for floyd to be scared of, bs. Manny proved he’s scared of needles, shane mosley, and top elite fighters, facts not opinion.
@ ciel
the only way they can defend pink floyd is doing some article like this..this guys are fooled by mayweather, i dont know why this people cant open there eyes..or maybe they are just idiot..
Chris you don’t have a brain
WHIPS HIM WITH EASE, I like the sound of that, OK Mr Romero get me my whip and I’ll try some routine on how to Whip with ease. No, Mr Romero, you have to stand still.
Title should be:
“Does it matter what Chris Williams writes if Floyd won’t get in the ring”
DUDE…MAYWEATHER DIDNT EVEN REALLY HURT DE LAHOYA..pACQUIAO PUT A STAMP ON THAT RETIREMENT!
Thats 1995 to 2009 numerous knockouts every year for 14 years. You just another statistic in the statistics game of predictions of how these other Pacquiao opponents were gonna tear him apart. Im sure if i search archives, i will find some article similar of you rootin for the other guy.
Pummel Pacquiao to the canvas??? Mayweather has not had a knock out since 2007, and 2005 before that. Pacquiao has knocked people out numerous times from 1995 to 2009! NO FREAKIN HOLES!
Isnt it funny that for the first time in history, that Mayweathers gone silent? Mayweather silent?!?!? sup wit that? used to love Maywetaher, but yes he is a ducksman.
@johann
that’s probably the greatest answer ive heard so far…the point is, he’s not ready to face the risk..
Scared fighters are even harder to hit ! haha think back everybody to your first fights when you were all in the amateurs. we were all so scared we looked like Willie Pep hehe
@MrRomero
as day goes by you becoming more dumb, i think now i can call you the dumbest of them all…your excuses are non sense and out of the world..even a grade school student can answer your comments..
Mayweather did not accept the fight or want to talk about it. Actions speak louder than words. Mayweather does not want to face Pacquiao.
I wonder what the boxing greats who are still alive today are thinking of Floyd’s behavior. I think they will be petrified at the things labelled at Floyd by known boxing experts/analysts.
Ali has called Joe Frazier, ugly and a gorilla, which is much better than what Pink Floyd being labelled as pretty but scared and the 2 Cs.
Floyd is certainly not scare of Pacman but not sure of victory.Like Freddie Roach said Floyd feel he is not ready yet to fight Pacman.
@MrRomero
they calling out pacman for money you idiot!!
@romero
not sure I follow your reasoning. If you say that EVERYONE is calling out Manny to fight because they are not scared of him are we to assume everyone is afraid to fight Floyd because NOBODY is calling him out even though as history has proven the big bucks lie with fighting Floyd? Can´t say I agree with your theory, doesn´t follow rational thinking or historical reference at all. Shane Mosley called out Floyd for that very reason, he knew he would get his biggest pay day for that reason and guess what, it worked. Are you suggesting every other fighter is now afraid of Floyd and that´s why nobody is calling him out despite the millions they will make against him?
I’m a Mayweather fan, but i have to admit that Floyd has ducked Pacman. I’m very disappointed with him.
Chris,
remember you said foreman was gonna school cotto?!
wot the f**k would u know!
Floyd will start trashing talking before Manny fights Margarito to get into his head….wait and listen folks
Floyd is not thinking boxing right now…he’s thinking of joining the LA DODGERS or Mighty DUCKS.
LOL…go ahead, keep on convincing yourself…camote!
good to see you back Chris. Great article. Totally different from that clown Iole from yahoo’s sports. Although I don’t believe for one minute Mayweather is afraid of Pacman. I was excited to see the fight happen in November and am slightly disappointed that it will not take place till 2011. Anyway good job Chris….keep up the good work.
I’ve always been a Mayweather fan, but I am VERY disappointed with him. Ross Greenburg’s statement was the final straw, and it proved that Mayweather is just ducking Pacquiao. Floyd simply just doesn’t want the fight for whatever reason but he is not a coward nor is he afraid of Pacquiao. It’s a sad day for boxing. Only time will tell if Floyd and Manny will fight, but as of now, it’s just obvious that Mayweather wants no part of Pacquiao, at least maybe for this year. I just want him come out publicly and tell whatever reason he has for avoiding the fight, not make Ellerbe, De La Hoya, and Scahefer look stupid by making excuses for him.
The concept of someone being ´scared of another´and whipping that other person with ease doesn´t exactly make a lot of sense does it? The author has the literary skills of a tribesman from the amazon forest and the pure bias of the article, emotionally driven cliches lack of facts and in depth analysis makes reading this garbage painful.
LOL! Chris common dude why the hate on manny pacquiao so much? are you this stupid and single minded that you can’t see raw talent even if its hitting you on your face already? There’s many kind of fear, I think what Floyd has was Petrified type of fear, you know once confronted by the guy face to face he cant say anything and cant even move this what kind of fear he got, It’s so amazing that for someone who talk to much he suddenly chooses to be stay still and not say anything. It’s ok to fear somebody but fear like this is devastating.
As you said Chris “Once they get in the ring”. Will Pink Floyd steps up and get in the ring with the FIGHTER OF THE DECADE????
Hopefully by 2012 Floyd will have fought 1 fight. Probably Mathew Hatton or Malignaggi
Could the title of this article be any more outlandish? Way to get hits douc#%#bag
Great article
Floyd is not thinking about boxing right now.