Barrett doesn’t think Haye could beat Wladimir Klitschko – News

look at it this way stu….chageav beat both valuev and ruiz…when they were younger, better fighters…and vlad almost effortlessly swept away chageav…then look at david who looked petrified against valuev and has some difficult moments against ruiz…..come on….then its easy to see that vlad would effortlessly sweep away ruiz, whom david struggled with at times…and would do the same to valuev, whom david barely beat….and vlad did that to chageav with a torn muscle in his shoulder…hmmmm…i was on the david bandwagon when he came up…i thought finally, a brother who will turn things upside down and inside out…what did we get…a big mouthed, embarassingly dressed coward…of course i am angry

i saw the fight with barrett and believe he was hurt…its subjective…but anybody who thinks that valuev has any talent at all hasnt seen him fight…or anybody who can look at that list of fighters he has faced and not think it a joke is brainwashed…only 2 fighters in his career were ranked in the top 10 by ring magazine at the time of the fight…thats said…when you think that vlad has faced over 20…..??? i saw the fights the way i saw them…but i can plainly see that valuev is a poor, poor fighter who has been protected and got questionable decisions against club fighters…and i can plainly see that haye is afraid to fight anyone with a pulse…as hes only fought on man ranked in the top 10…and that was the lowly valuev…ranked 8 at the time i believe…and any fighter with a decent punch would knock valuev out…positively….samuel peter among them…valuev has no defense, punches slow, and had little punching power…translation…regardless of how your rate his whiskers….hes a walking punching bag…

i think valuev has an okay chin…i have seen him stunned or staggered…you come up with the name–on many occassions…in the first round against barrett twice…but there is a subjective element and early in the fight i thought chageav hurt him often…but if valuev ever gets in ring with a big puncher…a vlad..vitali,,,,peter…he will get knocked out…hes avoided punchers…hell david should have knocked him out…hes one of the top punchers in the division…he was just too careful…i think our blubbery mexican would ko him…he leans on fighters to tire them…but early in fights i think he gets lit up quite often…but then its just my opinion…and as far as davie…put him in the ring with 3 top 10 fighters…including a puncher and a legit speedster and ill become a fan in no time flat…many of us dislike davie because he has been such a disappointment to us…he didnt act like a cherrypicker and a fraud when he came up and we got excited….now were disgused….and i still think valuev is one of the worst titliest in history and most experts readily agree.

nzboxer:

haye taking “the easiest route”? that’s your opinion. but tua’s last 3 fights have been cameron, ahunanya & barrett. tough competition huh? the only good wins in his whole career are ruiz & rahman…& rahman was robbed. haye’s resume > tua’s resume. by a great distance.

i like hearing the imaginative things about ruiz as well…dont forget to mention he hasnt beaten a top 10 fighter in 4 years…and he was a fast, come forward fighter..apparently youve never seen him fight…he did fight like that against haye…which is strange, because hes always gotten beat when he does that…ruiz style has been to peck with the jab then throw a right hand while falling in and grabbing hold…the refusing to let go…then throwing another right…and then holding…and so on… and over the last 3 years and 6 fights his record is 3-3…his last win was in 08 against a fighter named adman serin with a record of 19-10-1…yes i cant see why someone wouldnt put him the money for that major fight…and i certainly can see why vlad was scared…

Agree with a lot of what J Jackson has to say. It’s fun reading his blogs. Very informative.
I think Vlad Klitschko has the best left jab, and left hook at least going back to the great Joe Louis. Louis was a picture perfect puncher and he had what was referred to as an educted left hook. So does Vladimir. He is greatly improved since being taken over by Emanuel Stewart. Not the same fighter he was 7 years ago.
Just for the hell of it, look up Joe Louis vs. Buddy Baer 2
on You Tube. Louis was 6’1″ and came in at 206 3/4 lbs. Baer was 6’6″ and weighed in at 250 lbs.

I love the Brits, however when it comes to David Haye they are breathing a different type of air. I learned at a very young age not to let my heart over rule my head. That is, not to let what I wanted to happen ruin my thinking. When I was a kid I liked Floyd Patterson so much that I thought he had a chance against Sonny Liston. Foolish I know, but that is what I thought. It took less than three minutes to prove me wrong.
Me thinks a lot of Haye supporters are pulling for Haye out of blind loyalty and not dealing with reality. Everyone else seems to get it but the Brits.

This is news???
Nah…
It’s a fact.
Wlad by KO-friggin-O!!!!
PA

but davids biggest problem is he doesnt have stamina, he gets winded very quickly…he runs a very fast 100 yard dash but a very slow 200 yards…which means he has fast twitch muscles not meant for the long haul….but add a porous defense to a suspect chin and you have a problem…this is a guy who was staggered, knocked down, and had to hold on for dear life against mormeck…and has been staggered by light heavyweights and was in all kinds of trouble against a supermiddleweight early in his career…he does recover and weather the storms….but against a hard hitting heavy he wont be able to…david has yet to get in the ring with a fighter with even a decent punch…much less a hard hitter…theres a reason for that….samuel peter would be a very hard fight for david and hed have to knock him out early to win…and that isnt an easy task…not even likely

why do klitchkos fans comments sound like theyre written by robots?
‘haye is a big joke’ etc etc

Haye is the biggest joke to come out of Britain since Lucas electrics.

Povetkin and Haye both came to a screeching halt as soon as things didn’t look so easy for them. At least povetkin didn’t make a goof out of himself by letting his mouth run out of control and then hide in a closet. Sam Peter is a tough brave guy that will fight, I have much more respect for him than Sasha and Haye.

ANOTHER haye article, so much interest for a man everyone says cant fight. If only all the haye haters realised how funny they are!

People do not realize how fast Wladimir is. He is pretty fast for a big guy and he moves well also. Wladimir’s jab would stun and hurt Haye. Wlad throws a fast and powerful right cross over the jab also. That right cross dropped Chagaev. Imagine what that right would have done to Haye? Povetkin has backed out of the Wlad fight and others will follow suit. Wlad and Vit can keep on winning until they decide that they want to quit.

vitali offered valuev more than david’s fight…a monster…thats truly funny..he is slow, has been staggered by barrett, holyfield (at 46), haye, and was knocked down by chageav…he doesnt have a great chin, has a poor knock out record and little punching power, is probably the slowest figthter to ever hold a belt…add that to the fact he is 36 years old….which is extremely old for a man with giantism who will probably not live to see 50…and you arent exactly talking about a scarry figure…except in the mind’s of people who are trying to hide the fact david has fought only one ranked fighter, one barely in the top 10, and seems to have no plans to fight another…every fighter in the top 10 valuev has faced has beaten him…what is there about this you dont understand…a 46 year old holyfield did better against him than david did…any fighter currently in the top 10 would knock valuev out…we have known this for years…for years he has ducked every decent fighter…how is it they never noticed this in england…go and look at the record of who he has fought and keep in mind he has one many contraversial, rip-off decisions…larry donald beat him and didnt get the win…he did far better than david and donald is a clubfighter whom vitali wiped out…a list of the scarry fighters valuev has defended against in recent years…beck…mccline, donald, entiennce, levin, nobles, vidoz, holyfield at 46, liakhovich after he was washed up….yes a tough guy…and ruiz…and all of them are b level fighters…and then there was chageav whom he lost to

you need someone to buy a fight…nobody is going to buy a fight for a washed up ruiz to fight either k brother….besides ruiz, barrett, chageav, valuev, and now david are don king’s pets…if you look at the belt, aside from journeymen they are the only ones who have fought for that bogus title david now has…and these are probably the only fighters david will ever fight…but they are not respected fighters worldwide and the best of them by far was chageav and he was ripped apart by vladimir…and chageav beat valuev far more convincingly than david…as far as ruiz goes he couldnt even beat chageav…how do you turn david’s fear of real, young strong fighters into a virtue….and then believe the k brothers would duck stiffs like valuev and ruiz when he beat down the only decent fighter don king has in chageav…of course at this point it would be a disgrace to fight any of these washed up fighters, esp ruiz and barrett with a losing record in the last 6 fights…i was embarassed that vitali tried to corner valuev into a fight…as it would be a terrible mismatch…ask yourself if valuev doesnt have a good chin, cant punch, is slow, has no footwork…exactly how would he beat any decent fighter…which he hasnt

@inkspired-spot on with every point you made.

vlad has fought 18 top 10 contenders…and several ex-champions…monte says valds jab is like a right hand…and is very fast…he has the best jab, right hand combination in the history of the heavyweights…everyone thinks they will get in close until they are repeatedly stunned by that jab…lewis said in ring magazine david has no chance against either k brother….after sparring with david…i wish you fanboys and haye worshipers would learn something aboiut boxing…it would make these conversations more interesting…and i dont think haye can ko vlad with one punch…even getting repeatedly tagged by sanders…who rahman said was the best puncher he ever stepped in against, vlad kept getting up…and i assure you david doesnt hit as hard as peter…and he couldnt keep vlad down…combine this with the fact david is tired after 3 rounds and has a porous defense…he has a slim chance…that jab would stagger and confuse david and it is straigher and more accurate than any of davids looping punches

maybe haye opponents do not set the world alight but in valuev and in ruiz they are both fighters that have been avoided by both klitchko’s.
while they have been fighting bums and has beens ruiz has been out there as a genuine heavyweight with a proven record, past title holder.he comes to fight, can take a punch and keeps on coming. but because he was a lively come forward fighter he was avoided.
ruiz said this himself in the build up to the haye fight. he’s knocked on the door and offered himself to the klitchko’s but they wouldnt have any of him. haye took him on, and when all on this site said he would beat haye, and beat him by k.o. haye proved himself with 4 knockdowns and finishing his career in the 9th.
and as for valuev, well to date haye fought him and won, no matter what his tactics were, he won and in doing so he was the first man to even look like stopping the russian giant.
vitali keeps uttering a glimmer of facing the 7ft monster but when the contract comes out, the goalposts are moved and valuev is priced out of the fight. if they are so dominant and willing to beat all comers why avoid ruiz and price valuev out of a fight ?

look at the facts. the klitchko’s while being at the top of the tree, are definitely not what they sell themselves as.
true heavyweight legends with the intentions they give would surely take on allcomers, no matter what the size,quality,heart,skill they bring to the table.

in haye’s last 2 fights he has fought a world champion and taken his crown and then defended against a former 2 time world champion.
in wlads last 5 or possibly more he has faced nothing but fighters who can be classed as ‘contenders’ at best most of whom only seemed interested in the payday rather than the thought of winning.
and in vitali’s last 4 fights since sam peter he has faced anything but adverse opposition, so called contenders who have either gone to sleep at the first bell,or cired their way through the fight.
haye antics do leave alot to be desired, i’ll give you that, but com’mon admit to the facts, the klitchko’s have not fought a lively opponent in their last 5 fights apiece. how do you claim a heavyweight legacy and domination on that record.
especially when you weigh it up against the likes of lewis who from 1993 onwards fought true world class opponents till his retirement, with the exception of the 2 tune up fights prior to knocking morrison out to regain the world crown after losing to mccall.
i’m not saying the klitchko’s dont deserve to be where they are, but by christ the dont deserve to be called world greats and hall of famers.
if we had fighters with the calibre of lewis,tyson,etc would they still be where they are ?
the only have what they have because they are the best of what is a bad bunch. this generation of heavyweights is the poorest there has been for many a year.
FACT.

hes not ready yet, he is young, needs two or three more fights, the Klits fought bums for years, so surely Haye can do the same

Haye is real hungry and Wlad hasnt been tested for wuite a while, where people think Areolo is good and the other recent contenders of the K’s none of them are good but not champions.

The way K’s go about match ups now are ridiculous and I wouldnt pay for them ever not until they fight someone who’s going give it ago

if haye catches vlad hes goin 2 sleep but i just cant c him doin it hope he does itll b gud 4 the division